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Kathianne
04-18-2016, 09:14 AM
by executive action:

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/04/18/supreme-court-to-hear-immigration-executive-orders-case-today/


Supreme Court to hear immigration executive-orders case today

POSTED AT 10:01 AM ON APRIL 18, 2016 BY ED MORRISSEY


Did Barack Obama overstep his authority in issuing ordering the executive branch to expand immigration programs to include illegal aliens? The Supreme Court hears arguments today (http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/18/politics/supreme-court-immigration-executive-actions-texas/index.html)onUS v Texas, but this is a unique hearing in more ways than one. The House of Representatives has filed its own brief in parallel with the states, making this a full-fledged constitutional dispute:

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Related, though their logic leaves more than a little to be desired:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/04/17/daca-dapa-us-v-texas-obama-immigration-executive-orders-editorials-debates/83160384/


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</section><section id="module-position-O97qb4RDKOg" class="storytopbar-bucket story-byline-module story-story-byline-module" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 22.4px;">The Editorial Board (http://www.usatoday.com/staff/2421/the-editorial-board/)5:18 p.m. EDT April 17, 2016
</section>If this president is allowed to reinterpret the law, what about the next one?

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fj1200
04-18-2016, 09:16 AM
With all these 4-4 potential decisions we really need to know how the appellate courts decided because a tie affirms the lower courts decision IIRC.

Kathianne
04-18-2016, 09:17 AM
With all these 4-4 potential decisions we really need to know how the appellate courts decided because a tie affirms the lower courts decision IIRC.

If memory serves about such, the ruling of the lower court stands and another case will have to be brought at later time, when 9 returns.

NightTrain
04-18-2016, 09:21 AM
Hopefully it will be a unanimous 8-0 slapping down executive overreach.

...I don't give that much chance of being the case, though.

Black Diamond
04-18-2016, 10:34 AM
Hopefully it will be a unanimous 8-0 slapping down executive overreach.

...I don't give that much chance of being the case, though.

Kagan and Sotomayor will side with Obama.

Abbey Marie
04-18-2016, 10:52 AM
I don't get my hopes up much these days. But if there is one thing even a lib court may be sensitive to, it's overreaching by one of the other two branches.

Black Diamond
04-18-2016, 10:54 AM
I don't get my hopes up much these days. But if there is one thing even a lib court may be sensitive to, it's overreaching by one of the other two branches.

I think Roberts is the one to watch. I can't see Kennedy going for this.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
04-18-2016, 11:56 AM
I think Roberts is the one to watch. I can't see Kennedy going for this.

Roberts is a sold out piece of shit. Fact..
Whatever they got on him made him flip overnight in the obamacare case.
And that told me that he is in their camp for the rest of his miserable, deceitful cowardly ffing life.
I'd spit on him if face to face..-Tyr

Black Diamond
04-18-2016, 12:02 PM
Roberts is a sold out piece of shit. Fact..
Whatever they got on him made him flip overnight in the obamacare case.
And that told me that he is in their camp for the rest of his miserable, deceitful cowardly ffing life.
I'd spit on him if face to face..-Tyr
Robertscare.....

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
04-18-2016, 12:05 PM
Robertscare.....

Treasoncare..... socialistcare = obamcare ..... -Tyr

Kathianne
04-19-2016, 02:21 AM
If they split, the lower courts ban on implementation would stand:

http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/276664-supreme-court-appears-divided-in-immigration-case


Court appears divided, signaling trouble for Obama on immigration By Lydia Wheeler - 04/18/16 11:53 AM EDT


The Supreme Court appeared divided during oral arguments Monday in a crucial case challenging the executive actions on immigration President Obama took in 2014.


Justice Anthony Kennedy, who is typically the court's swing voter, seemed to side with Texas and the 25 other states arguing the president overstepped his executive authority in granting deferred deportation to nearly 5 million immigrants.


Kennedy said the justices were being asked to define the limits of discretion, adding that Obama’s actions seemed more like a legislative act than an executive one.


"It's as if the president is setting the policy and the Congress is executing it," he said. "That’s just upside down."


A 4-4 split by the court, which has shown signs of struggling to decide cases with just eight justices, would leave in place a lower court decision blocking Obama’s actions. The split outcome would virtually guarantee that Obama's programs wouldn't start until after he leaves office, if at all.

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