So here comes Florida and Ohio

[jimnyc]

I didn't see much of anything in last night's debate that will alter the feeling of the voters. Both of these states will be huge. It looks like Ohio is going to be even more of a rumble than Florida if you guy by the averages.

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Florida

Polling Data
<tbody>
Poll
Date
Sample
MoE
Trump

Rubio

Cruz

Kasich

Spread


RCP Average
3/2 - 3/9
--
--
39.9
25.2
18.2
8.6
Trump +14.7


WTSP/Mason-Dixon (http://www.theledger.com/article/20160310/POLITICS/160319958#document/p1)
3/7 - 3/9
700 LV
3.8
36
30
17
8
Trump +6


Florida Times-Union (http://opinionsavvy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/OS-FL-Republican-3.10.16-Full.pdf)
3/9 - 3/9
590 LV
4.0
43
24
21
10
Trump +19


Trafalgar Group (R) (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4lhKxf9pMitU2tUNXhsWUxIQzg/view)
3/8 - 3/9
1280 LV
2.8
42
23
21
11
Trump +19


Suffolk University (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Suffolk_FINAL_FL_Marginals.pdf)
3/7 - 3/9
500 LV
4.4
36
27
19
10
Trump +9


FOX News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/09/fox-news-poll-trump-dominates-gop-race-in-florida.html?intcmp=hpbt1)
3/5 - 3/8
813 LV
3.5
43
20
16
10
Trump +23


News 13/SurveyUSA (http://www.mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2016/3/7/exclusive_political__0.html#results)
3/4 - 3/6
937 LV
3.3
42
22
17
10
Trump +20


Quinnipiac (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/ps/ps03092016_Fhs28mb.pdf)
3/2 - 3/7
657 LV
3.8
45
22
18
8
Trump +23


Monmouth (http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/c6781dce-1a50-4f9e-bdf3-69388f5a110f.pdf)
3/3 - 3/6
403 LV
4.9
38
30
17
10
Trump +8


UNF (http://www.unf.edu/uploadedFiles/aa/coas/porl/Florida%20Statewide%20Spring%20Republican%202016%2 0March%209%281%29.pdf)
3/2 - 3/7
752 LV
3.6
36
24
16
9
Trump +12


CNN/ORC (http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/09/politics/trump-clinton-lead-florida-ohio/index.html)
3/2 - 3/6
313 LV
5.5
40
24
19
5
Trump +16


Wash Post/Univision (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-rubio-close-in-fla-primary-washington-post-univision-news-poll-shows/2016/03/10/79c2fb1a-e63a-11e5-a6f3-21ccdbc5f74e_story.html?postshare=7711457620491285&tid=ss_tw)
3/2 - 3/5
450 LV
5.5
38
31
19
4
Trump +7

</tbody>

Ohio

Polling Data
<tbody>
Poll
Date
Sample
MoE
Trump

Kasich

Cruz

Rubio

Spread


RCP Average
3/2 - 3/8
--
--
36.5
34.0
16.3
7.0
Trump +2.5


FOX News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/09/fox-news-poll-kasich-ahead-in-ohio.html?intcmp=hpbt1)
3/5 - 3/8
806 LV
3.5
29
34
19
7
Kasich +5



PPP (D) (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_OH_30716.pdf)
3/4 - 3/6
638 LV
3.9
38
35
15
5
Trump +3


Quinnipiac (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/ps/ps03092016_Fhs28mb.pdf)
3/2 - 3/7
685 LV
3.7
38
32
16
9
Trump +6


CNN/ORC (http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/09/politics/trump-clinton-lead-florida-ohio/index.html)
3/2 - 3/6
359 LV
5.0
41
35
15
7
Trump +6

</tbody>

[Kathianne]

I think the polls are pretty right. Kasich might pull out Ohio. FL is going to Trump.

[jimnyc]

Why Cruz is walking away from the Florida primary

With just four days remaining before the Florida primary, it’s hard to know what to make of some of the recent statewide polls. Looking at the data released this week, for every poll that shows Donald Trump’s lead over Marco Rubio growing to around 20 points, there’s another that shows Trump’s advantage shrinking to single digits.

Rubio hasn’t led in any statewide poll in his own home state since mid-April 2015.

With this in mind, Ted Cruz’s operation leaked word several days ago that it would head into the Sunshine State this week, undermine Rubio’s support, and knock the senator out of the race once and for all. It would include a series of new field offices and a major advertising investment from a Cruz super PAC.

As of late yesterday, however, NBC News’ Vaughn Hillyard found that those plans have been deemed unnecessary.

The super PACs backing Ted Cruz are opting to skip airing television ads in Florida before next Tuesday’s primary, despite the Cruz campaign hyping up its own effort to prevent rival Republican presidential candidate Marco Rubio from winning his delegate-rich home state.

“We looked at the numbers, and we decided that Marco Rubio can lose Florida all by himself,” said Kellyanne Conway, president of the Keep the Promise, the multiple super PAC entities backing Cruz. “He doesn’t need our help.”

The super PAC chief said with Rubio struggling in Florida, and John Kasich battling Trump in Ohio, Keep the Promise will direct resources into Missouri, North Carolina and Illinois – the other three states hosting nominating contests on Tuesday.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/why-cruz-walking-away-the-florida-primary#

[NightTrain]

Cruz has to get Rubio's base if he wants to have any chance. I think it would be a smart move on his part to concentrate on FL instead of relying on Trump to finish Rubio off - if Rubio somehow pulls off a win, that's going to breathe new life into his campaign and assure a Trump nomination.

Personally, I don't think there's much chance of it happening either way... Trump's going to be our guy.

[Jeff]

Cruz has to get Rubio's base if he wants to have any chance. I think it would be a smart move on his part to concentrate on FL instead of relying on Trump to finish Rubio off - if Rubio somehow pulls off a win, that's going to breathe new life into his campaign and assure a Trump nomination.

Personally, I don't think there's much chance of it happening either way... Trump's going to be our guy.

Just go ahead and jump on board the Trump Train, it's the only chance this country has, and how sad is that. I don't believe Trump will be a great president but I do believe he is the only one running that has the Nads to get us back to being the great Country we once where. And let's face it Hillary will be worse than Obama and look at the bang up job he did. :rolleyes: I don't believe any other candidate will do much different than Obama, hell Obama was going to be so much different that GW, we where getting hope and change, a yea I am still waiting, it's easy to talk the talk but when ya have to walk the walk well that is where a guy with some Nads is needed.

[tailfins]

Just go ahead and jump on board the Trump Train, it's the only chance this country has, and how sad is that. I don't believe Trump will be a great president but I do believe he is the only one running that has the Nads to get us back to being the great Country we once where. And let's face it Hillary will be worse than Obama and look at the bang up job he did. :rolleyes: I don't believe any other candidate will do much different than Obama, hell Obama was going to be so much different that GW, we where getting hope and change, a yea I am still waiting, it's easy to talk the talk but when ya have to walk the walk well that is where a guy with some Nads is needed.

#NeverTrump

I don't vote for monarch's that demand loyalty pledges.

[Abbey Marie]

I think the polls are pretty right. Kasich might pull out Ohio. FL is going to Trump.


Florida is in some ways, New York City "light".

[Abbey Marie]

Just go ahead and jump on board the Trump Train, it's the only chance this country has, and how sad is that. I don't believe Trump will be a great president but I do believe he is the only one running that has the Nads to get us back to being the great Country we once where. And let's face it Hillary will be worse than Obama and look at the bang up job he did. :rolleyes: I don't believe any other candidate will do much different than Obama, hell Obama was going to be so much different that GW, we where getting hope and change, a yea I am still waiting, it's easy to talk the talk but when ya have to walk the walk well that is where a guy with some Nads is needed.


I actually think Obama will be worse than Hillary. I don't think she's a true believer like he is. She's really just a Clintonista in the end.

[jimnyc]

Last polls prior to tomorrow. "If" things go by polls, Kasich is pulling further away with Ohio, Trump with Florida. A lot of delegates up for grabs, and of course Ohio and Florida being the biggies. I'm not 100% positive how NC, Missouri and Illinois distribute.

Illinois:
Polling Data
<tbody>
Poll
Date
Sample
MoE
Trump

Cruz

Kasich

Rubio

Spread


RCP Average
3/4 - 3/11
--
--
35.0
26.3
18.3
12.7
Trump +8.7


CBS News/YouGov (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016-trump-and-kasich-neck-and-neck-ohio-trump-leads-florida/)
3/9 - 3/11
805 LV
4.4
38
34
16
11
Trump +4


NBC/WSJ/Marist (http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/polls-trump-ahead-florida-illinois-kasich-leads-ohio-n537356)
3/4 - 3/10
421 LV
4.8
34
25
21
16
Trump +9


WeAskAmerica (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Bi-iePG1O6SEFOZXp0ZFFsYWs/view)
3/7 - 3/7
1009 LV
3.1
33
20
18
11
Trump +13

</tbody>


Missouri:

Polling Data
<tbody>
Poll
Date
Sample
MoE
Trump

Cruz

Rubio

Kasich

Spread


Fort Hays St. University (http://www.stltoday.com/news/missouri-poll-results/pdf_403071e8-60bd-5830-ad9e-0364a168dc67.html)
3/3 - 3/10
208 LV
7.0
36
29
9
8
Trump +7

</tbody>


North Carolina:

Polling Data
<tbody>
Poll
Date
Sample
MoE
Trump

Cruz

Kasich

Rubio

Spread


RCP Average
3/4 - 3/13
--
--
41.3
28.5
11.3
10.0
Trump +12.8


PPP (D) (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_NC_31316.pdf)
3/11 - 3/13
749 LV
3.6
44
33
11
7
Trump +11


High Point University (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=822bfd58-a858-4a72-9c64-b41906668af9&c=211)
3/9 - 3/10
734 LV
3.7
48
28
12
8
Trump +20


Civitas (R) (https://www.nccivitas.org/2016/17366/)
3/5 - 3/7
500 LV
4.4
32
26
11
11
Trump +6


WRAL-TV/SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=096c4982-8b11-468f-915e-5132f3ddc2e3)
3/4 - 3/7
688 LV
3.8
41
27
11
14
Trump +14

</tbody>


Ohio:

olling Data
<tbody>
Poll
Date
Sample
MoE
Kasich

Trump

Cruz

Rubio

Spread


RCP Average
3/4 - 3/13
--
--
38.0
34.3
18.0
4.7
Kasich +3.7


Monmouth (http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/e2e94533-5376-4498-8e62-b21454f3e8ba.pdf)
3/11 - 3/13
503 LV
4.4
40
35
15
5
Kasich +5


ARG (http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2016/primary/rep/ohrep.html)
3/12 - 3/13
400 LV
5.0
44
38
12
2
Kasich +6


Quinnipiac (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/)
3/8 - 3/13
721 LV
3.7
38
38
16
3
Tie


CBS News/YouGov (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016-trump-and-kasich-neck-and-neck-ohio-trump-leads-florida/)
3/9 - 3/11
828 LV
4.4
33
33
27
5
Tie


NBC/WSJ/Marist (http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/polls-trump-ahead-florida-illinois-kasich-leads-ohio-n537356)
3/4 - 3/10
564 LV
4.1
39
33
19
6
Kasich +6


FOX News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/09/fox-news-poll-kasich-ahead-in-ohio.html?intcmp=hpbt1)
3/5 - 3/8
806 LV
3.5
34
29
19
7
Kasich +5

</tbody>


Florida:

olling Data
<tbody>
Poll
Date
Sample
MoE
Trump

Rubio

Cruz

Kasich

Spread


RCP Average
3/4 - 3/13
--
--
43.0
24.4
18.7
9.1
Trump +18.6


Florida Times-Union (http://opinionsavvy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/OS-FL-Republican-3.14.16-Full.pdf)
3/13 - 3/13
787 LV
3.5
44
26
18
10
Trump +18


Trafalgar Group (R) (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4lhKxf9pMitZ1dTVVpkNG10THc/view)
3/12 - 3/13
1500 LV
2.6
44
24
20
9
Trump +20


ARG (http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2016/primary/rep/flrep.html)
3/11 - 3/13
400 LV
5.0
49
24
16
8
Trump +25


Monmouth (http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/5e8badb6-57e6-43b0-92f3-f1643d68352b.pdf)
3/11 - 3/13
405 LV
4.9
44
27
17
9
Trump +17


Quinnipiac (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/)
3/8 - 3/13
615 LV
4.0
46
22
14
10
Trump +24


CBS News/YouGov (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016-trump-and-kasich-neck-and-neck-ohio-trump-leads-florida/)
3/9 - 3/11
873 LV
4.8
44
21
24
9
Trump +20


Florida Atlantic University (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-florida-primary-fau-results-20160312-story.html)
3/8 - 3/11
852 LV
3.0
44
21
21
9
Trump +23


WTSP/Mason-Dixon (http://www.theledger.com/article/20160310/POLITICS/160319958#document/p1)
3/7 - 3/9
700 LV
3.8
36
30
17
8
Trump +6


Suffolk University (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Suffolk_FINAL_FL_Marginals.pdf)
3/7 - 3/9
500 LV
4.4
36
27
19
10
Trump +9


NBC/WSJ/Marist (http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/polls-trump-ahead-florida-illinois-kasich-leads-ohio-n537356)
3/4 - 3/10
511 LV
4.3
43
22
21
9
Trump +21

</tbody>

[jimnyc]

I don't think Kasich loses Ohio...

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For Marco Rubio and John Kasich, home might not be so sweet

WASHINGTON

A presidential hopeful’s home state primary is supposed to be like comfort food, a restorative repast of votes satisfying to both the soul and the delegate count.

But what’s cooking in Florida and possibly Ohio in their primaries Tuesday could taste more bitter than bracing. It might also dramatically change the Republican race.

Sen. Marco Rubio of the Sunshine State has seen little of its warmth in recent weeks. Once touted as the great hope of the Republican Party establishment, he could face a crushing defeat if the Florida polls are accurate. They show billionaire real estate developer Donald Trump easily defeating the first-term senator.

In Ohio, Republican Gov. John Kasich is in better straits. The latest surveys show him either tied with or slightly ahead of Trump.

A loss for either slams the door on his White House hopes, to say nothing of the embarrassment, and the bragging rights denied them.

“If you can’t win your home state, it’s rough to rationally explain how you win in other states,” said David Winston, a Republican strategist. “This is literally, the ‘there’s-no-other-option’ moment. You can’t create a situation where you’ve lost your home state and that there’s some path.”

Rubio has captured just one state – Minnesota ‑ plus two non-states: the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico. He has 159 convention delegates. Kasich, who has not won anywhere, has 61.

The Ohio chief executive and former congressman is the most non-combative candidate in a GOP campaign that has been described as vulgar, embarrassing and a playground spat. His closest finish was in Vermont, where he placed second, behind Trump.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article66021062.html

[Perianne]

Sen. Marco Rubio of the Sunshine State has seen little of its warmth in recent weeks. Once touted as the great hope of the Republican Party establishment, he could face a crushing defeat if the Florida polls are accurate. They show billionaire real estate developer Donald Trump easily defeating the first-term senator.


Marco's time is done.

[jimnyc]

Rubio has been done for a bit now. And it's odd, with him being the establishment pick. Did they think if they kept going forward that it would change? Everyone knew that certain folks staying in was only helping Trump. And I think even most of us here knew he was a cooked goose quite awhile back.

[Kathianne]

Kasich may well win OH, the question is will he ride those delegates to convention, hoping for brokered? He should have left when Carson did.

[jimnyc]

Kasich may well win OH, the question is will he ride those delegates to convention, hoping for brokered? He should have left when Carson did.

Mathematically speaking, really only Cruz can knock out Trump, as he's really not that far behind. But Rubio staying in has helped. Kasich has helped. And even if he does win Ohio, it's nothing but false hope, and some help towards Trump I believe, should he continue.

[jimnyc]

So after like less than 1% :laugh: But 97,000+ already for Trump....


<tbody>
D. Trump (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/donaldtrump)
49.4%
97,605


M. Rubio (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/marcorubio)
22.6%
44,611


T. Cruz (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/tedcruz)
15.1%
29,925


J. Kasich (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/johnkasich)
7.2%
14,275


J. Bush (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/jebbush)
3.7%
7,390


B. Carson (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/bencarson)
1.3%
2,566


R. Paul (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/randpaul)
0.2%
402


C. Christie (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/chrischristie)
0.2%
324


M. Huckabee (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/mikehuckabee)
0.1%
237


C. Fiorina (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/carlyfiorina)
0.1%
210


R. Santorum (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/ricksantorum)
0.1%
121


L. Graham
0.0%
74


J. Gilmore (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/candidate-overview/jimgilmore)
0.0%
31

</tbody>


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[Black Diamond]

Mathematically speaking, really only Cruz can knock out Trump, as he's really not that far behind. But Rubio staying in has helped. Kasich has helped. And even if he does win Ohio, it's nothing but false hope, and some help towards Trump I believe, should he continue.

I like the sound of that.

[LongTermGuy]

http://barrybradford.com/wp-content/uploads/Election2016.jpg
http://neverdaunted.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/trump-vs-cruz.jpg


Now We Wait.....:coffee:

https://media.giphy.com/media/vdsISoCQMga9G/giphy.gif
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzu99sHLMO1qmb3vvo1_500.gif
:salute:

[LongTermGuy]

Cruz has to get Rubio's base if he wants to have any chance. I think it would be a smart move on his part to concentrate on FL instead of relying on Trump to finish Rubio off - if Rubio somehow pulls off a win, that's going to breathe new life into his campaign and assure a Trump nomination.

Personally, I don't think there's much chance of it happening either way... Trump's going to be our guy.

:cool:

https://i.imgflip.com/liu4g.jpg

[jimnyc]

Trump officially takes Florida and the 99 delegates.

[NightTrain]

Wow... that's a true thumping!

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8625&stc=1

The only county Rubio won was Miami-Dade.

[jimnyc]

Kasich declared winner of Ohio!!

[jimnyc]

Nothing yet for sure of course, but Trump leads by nearly 20 in Illinois, by 5 in Missouri & 5 in North Carolina

[Perianne]

Wow... that's a true thumping!


Did you mean to say "a true trumping!"?

Hahahaha. I made a very humorous funny!

[NightTrain]

Did you mean to say "a true trumping!"?

Hahahaha. I made a very humorous funny!

You know, I thought of that as I was typing it... but I was able to resist, just barely.

[NightTrain]

It's looking like Cruz didn't win any states today.

There's probably all sorts of phone calls going now negotiating who Rubio supports.

[jimnyc]

It's looking like Cruz didn't win any states today.

There's probably all sorts of phone calls going now negotiating who Rubio supports.

He's a little less than 3% behind in Missouri! Ya never know.

[NightTrain]

He's a little less than 3% behind in Missouri! Ya never know.

Yeah, only 31% counted... didn't see that. Lots of room to switch positions.

[NightTrain]

93% counted in MO.... Trump leads by 1/10th %

[Black Diamond]

Geez.

[jimnyc]

93% counted in MO.... Trump leads by 1/10th %

99% and up by just over 2,000 votes, and this is 5am EST. If they declare for Trump, that would be I think like 170 delegates for him. Kasich with 75 & Cruz with 26. Current total tallies as of now:

Trump - 621
Cruz - 396
Kasich - 138

Rubio - 168 but dropped

[jimnyc]

And the same on the Dem side, 49.6 to 49.4 in Hillary's favor, and she's up by about 1500 votes.

[NightTrain]

99% and up by just over 2,000 votes, and this is 5am EST. If they declare for Trump, that would be I think like 170 delegates for him. Kasich with 75 & Cruz with 26. Current total tallies as of now:

Trump - 621
Cruz - 396
Kasich - 138

Rubio - 168 but dropped

So with Rubio dropped - does that free his delegates or are they bound by who he throws his support for?

[jimnyc]

So with Rubio dropped - does that free his delegates or are they bound by who he throws his support for?

Quick search, need more coffee, first link and not sure if it's correct!

----

It depends on applicable state law and the desires of the candidate to whom they were pledged.

Generally the delegates are bound by law to vote on the first ballot for the candidate they were pledged to. Sometimes the candidate will release them from that obligation and they will then be free to vote their consciences. Their original candidate may have endorsed another candidate and may ask his or her delegates to support the endorsee but they will not be obligated to do so.

It used to be that some states bound their delegates for up to three ballots at the convention, but today I believe that delegates are largely bound for only one ballot. That's why, if no one wins the nomination on the first ballot, the convention becomes much more dramatic and entertaining, because the horse-trading begins and the delegates are free to vote (a) their consciences; or (b) whoever gives them or their party leader the best deal.

https://www.quora.com/U-S-Presidential-Elections/If-a-candidate-drops-out-of-the-race-what-happens-to-his-her-delegates

[NightTrain]

Quick search, need more coffee, first link and not sure if it's correct!

----

It depends on applicable state law and the desires of the candidate to whom they were pledged.

Generally the delegates are bound by law to vote on the first ballot for the candidate they were pledged to. Sometimes the candidate will release them from that obligation and they will then be free to vote their consciences. Their original candidate may have endorsed another candidate and may ask his or her delegates to support the endorsee but they will not be obligated to do so.

It used to be that some states bound their delegates for up to three ballots at the convention, but today I believe that delegates are largely bound for only one ballot. That's why, if no one wins the nomination on the first ballot, the convention becomes much more dramatic and entertaining, because the horse-trading begins and the delegates are free to vote (a) their consciences; or (b) whoever gives them or their party leader the best deal.

https://www.quora.com/U-S-Presidential-Elections/If-a-candidate-drops-out-of-the-race-what-happens-to-his-her-delegates

If there was ever a golden opportunity for corruption in politics, this is it.

[jimnyc]

If there was ever a golden opportunity for corruption in politics, this is it.

They are likely sitting back now and mapping out what to do with the delegates from Rubio, and what they'll need to do to get to a brokered convention. I think they're looking at the math, and ignoring the results that they would actually get if they were to do this. Do they seriously think this would work though? And what would their actual goal be? The only thing they would accomplish by doing so is perhaps keeping Trump out of the white house, if that is their goal. But any talk of somehow eliminating him and putting someone else in, I just don't see it happening.

Unless something drastically changes, if they were to try that, I believe Trump simply leaves and takes voters with him. I do not believe he could win in that manner, nor do I think whoever they give the nod to would win either.

[NightTrain]

There's way too much interest for them to pull anything shady at the convention, and I know I've already said it but doing something like that will not only throw the election to the democrats, but will burn down the GOP house.

I just don't think they'll do it.

Sure, they could arrange things for Kasich to be the nominee but he's not the guy that the people have voted for. The backlash, even though he's still much better than the alternative, would be immense.

[Perianne]

There's way too much interest for them to pull anything shady at the convention, and I know I've already said it but doing something like that will not only throw the election to the democrats, but will burn down the GOP house.

I just don't think they'll do it.

Sure, they could arrange things for Kasich to be the nominee but he's not the guy that the people have voted for. The backlash, even though he's still much better than the alternative, would be immense.

I read, or heard, something yesterday. Forgive me that I can't remember where or who it was.

Anyway, someone said that a GOP insider said they would rather be a minority party for the next twenty-five years than to let Trump win the nomination.

[NightTrain]

I read, or heard, something yesterday. Forgive me that I can't remember where or who it was.

Anyway, someone said that a GOP insider said they would rather be a minority party for the next twenty-five years than to let Trump win the nomination.

With that kind of attitude, the house needs to burn to the ground! I'll bring the 5 gallons of gas to get things started.

In that case, we'll likely see the rise of a new party... and maybe that's what we need.

[jimnyc]

I read, or heard, something yesterday. Forgive me that I can't remember where or who it was.

Anyway, someone said that a GOP insider said they would rather be a minority party for the next twenty-five years than to let Trump win the nomination.

Can you imagine what would happen to the country if the dems were in charge that long and swing SCOTUS, and maybe even have majority in congress? It would be like having a huge California!! The land of the fruit and nuts would be the entire nation!

[Black Diamond]

There's way too much interest for them to pull anything shady at the convention, and I know I've already said it but doing something like that will not only throw the election to the democrats, but will burn down the GOP house.

I just don't think they'll do it.

Sure, they could arrange things for Kasich to be the nominee but he's not the guy that the people have voted for. The backlash, even though he's still much better than the alternative, would be immense.

Or worse.. Romney.

[Black Diamond]

Can you imagine what would happen to the country if the dems were in charge that long and swing SCOTUS, and maybe even have majority in congress? It would be like having a huge California!! The land of the fruit and nuts would be the entire nation!

They may be that adamant about no trump

[jimnyc]

I still see no winners declared for Missouri, but I do see that the delegates are set for 20 for Trump and 5 for Cruz. And Clinton/Sanders, while she has a tiny edge, it's set right now at 34 delegates apiece for them.

[jimnyc]

Here is the latest with Missouri that I can find. I assume we'll see recounts on both sides before they officially call it over.

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Clinton and Trump win Missouri primaries by narrow margins

With 100% percent of precincts reporting in Missouri, both the Republican and Democratic races in the state's presidential primaries are too close to call.

The margins in the race between Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in the Republican race, and Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders in the Democratic race, are less than one-half of 1 percentage point. That means the losing candidate can request a recount.

As such, The Associated Press will not call either the race at this time.

The Missouri Secretary of State's office reports that the Democratic presidential primary goes to Hillary Clinton. The Republican primary goes to Donald Trump.

http://fox2now.com/2016/03/15/missouri-primary-races-too-close-to-call/