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jimnyc
02-29-2016, 04:53 AM
I'm not naive, all of his initiatives will not come to fruition, at least not as he states or that many of us hope. But that's how it is since the beginning of time in America. But I still want someone in there that will come up with what I/we want and then actually strive to meet that goal. The majority of the time those things are generally thwarted by congress. But with some promises, I expect that these will be goals that they are actually going to try and reach. When I say they, I mean the president and the congress together.

Illegal immigration. I think Trump does in fact put up a wall. Comparatively speaking, that amount of money they project is peanuts compared to what Obama spent in his terms. But even better if he can actually fix things with Mexico in addition, financially, and recoup a lot of the cost, if not all of it or the majority. In addition, anchor babies and sanctuary cities, close them down.

Vet refugees RESPONSIBLY and know 100% for sure, or temporarily stop letting them in from Syria or other war zones.

I think he supports defunding planned parenthood.

I truly think he wants to make a difference with our soldiers and the VA. And this is one where I REALLY hope he is true to his word, and we see cuts elsewhere in order to increase here.

I believe he'll defend the 2nd amendment.

I believe he'll strengthen our military instead of reduce it, and he'll also go at ISIS more effectively.

I think he'll be much better for our economy and jobs.

I think he puts us in a better position when it comes to trade with other countries.

Hopefully common core will be killed

Abbey Marie
02-29-2016, 01:40 PM
The area I feel certain he will come through on is trade reform, especially with China.

Kathianne
02-29-2016, 01:50 PM
The area I feel certain he will come through on is trade reform, especially with China.

I'm pretty sure that would take Congess, he'd have an awful lot of opposition from Dem and if any traditional Reps are left?

Black Diamond
02-29-2016, 04:53 PM
He has stated he is against planned parenthoods abortion policies.. But not the organization as a whole.

hjmick
02-29-2016, 05:38 PM
I'm not naive, all of his initiatives will not come to fruition, at least not as he states or that many of us hope. But that's how it is since the beginning of time in America. But I still want someone in there that will come up with what I/we want and then actually strive to meet that goal. The majority of the time those things are generally thwarted by congress. But with some promises, I expect that these will be goals that they are actually going to try and reach. When I say they, I mean the president and the congress together.

Illegal immigration. I think Trump does in fact put up a wall. Comparatively speaking, that amount of money they project is peanuts compared to what Obama spent in his terms. But even better if he can actually fix things with Mexico in addition, financially, and recoup a lot of the cost, if not all of it or the majority. In addition, anchor babies and sanctuary cities, close them down.

Vet refugees RESPONSIBLY and know 100% for sure, or temporarily stop letting them in from Syria or other war zones.

I think he supports defunding planned parenthood.

I truly think he wants to make a difference with our soldiers and the VA. And this is one where I REALLY hope he is true to his word, and we see cuts elsewhere in order to increase here.

I believe he'll defend the 2nd amendment.

I believe he'll strengthen our military instead of reduce it, and he'll also go at ISIS more effectively.

I think he'll be much better for our economy and jobs.

I think he puts us in a better position when it comes to trade with other countries.

Hopefully common core will be killed


I think you're setting yourself up for some huge disappointments...

jimnyc
02-29-2016, 05:50 PM
I think you're setting yourself up for some huge disappointments...

Which of those that I have listed do you think I will be disappointed with most?

jimnyc
02-29-2016, 06:06 PM
I'm pretty sure that would take Congess, he'd have an awful lot of opposition from Dem and if any traditional Reps ate left?

But it's either a good plan or it's not. If some stop any plans that the people are wanting as a result of the upcoming elections, then hopefully the resp will be unemployed come the following election. This is why folks are getting madder and madder, as congressional idiots are doing as they please and completely ignoring what it is the people want. Or they can keep things 'as is' and let us continue to get beaten by the other major countries.

hjmick
02-29-2016, 06:16 PM
Which of those that I have listed do you think I will be disappointed with most?


I don't think he'll defund Planned Parenthood, he's too often stated he supports a woman's right to choose. I believe his simply giving lip service to the issue claiming his belief in the "right to life" in order to garner the nomination.

I don't think you'll ever see him put up a wall, and certainly not one paid for by Mexico. And he knows it.

I think he's wishy-washy on the 2nd Amendment, he has supported banning "assault weapons" and I don't believe anyone who has ever supported that ban changes their stance. Banning one, in my mind, is the first step in banning all...

As for the rest of your list, too much of it depends on the cooperation of others, most of whom he has most like insulted and alienated in some fashion or another. What's that leave? Executive actions. I can't help but think that, being who he is and seeing the way he acts, he abuse that power to an extent that we have never seen. I think he would make Obama look like an amateur with regard to the abuse of executive actions.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
02-29-2016, 06:18 PM
I'm pretty sure that would take Congess, he'd have an awful lot of opposition from Dem and if any traditional Reps ate left?

So why is that important? Wouldnt any other Republican elected get the same response from the dems?
Cruz is soundly hated too! As is every Republican candidate still in the race.
Dems are going to oppose any5hing we do , so thats a non-issue from the start in regards to Trump IMHO.tYR

Black Diamond
02-29-2016, 06:23 PM
So why is that important? Wouldnt any other Republican elected get the same response from the dems?
Cruz is soundly hated too! As is every Republican candidate still in the race.
Dems are going to oppose any5hing we do , so thats a non-issue from the start in regards to Trump IMHO.tYR
I think Cruz is far less electable than trump.

jimnyc
02-29-2016, 06:31 PM
I don't think he'll defund Planned Parenthood, he's too often stated he supports a woman's right to choose. I believe his simply giving lip service to the issue claiming his belief in the "right to life" in order to garner the nomination.

I don't think you'll ever see him put up a wall, and certainly not one paid for by Mexico. And he knows it.

I think he's wishy-washy on the 2nd Amendment, he has supported banning "assault weapons" and I don't believe anyone who has ever supported that ban changes their stance. Banning one, in my mind, is the first step in banning all...

As for the rest of your list, too much of it depends on the cooperation of others, most of whom he has most like insulted and alienated in some fashion or another. What's that leave? Executive actions. I can't help but think that, being who he is and seeing the way he acts, he abuse that power to an extent that we have never seen. I think he would make Obama look like an amateur with regard to the abuse of executive actions.

I think PP depends on all of congress, but he has stated he is all for it. I suppose that depends on congress. The wall I TRULY believe he'll start in the first year, without a doubt, and I'll eat my words if he doesn't. I also believe he changes things up with tariffs and fees with Mexico and that the wall will be paid off in time based on that, not on them simply 'paying for the wall'.

Short of an executive order, he doesn't nothing to harm the 2nd. This would take congress and then likely the SC if someone were to try and make any changes.

I can see others trying to get into his way, but I think what would need to be done is what is good for America. If congress members purposely stop him, I hope they are at least siding with what the American people want, and not just stopping him because they don't like him. A good way to find ones self unemployed come the following election.

As for executive orders, I'll have to wait an see. I don't want to jump the gun and accuse him of overstepping, at least not until he oversteps. I can't imagine anyone in this world beating out Obama with the behind the scenes power grabs and EO's. Somethings along that line are necessary, but not living out ones entire term doing so.

I think he'll do fine in the majority of areas should he have a chance to work at things. I don't have the same silly notion as others that he is an undercover liberal and will somehow set out for liberal agendas once in office.

jimnyc
02-29-2016, 06:34 PM
So why is that important? Wouldnt any other Republican elected get the same response from the dems?
Cruz is soundly hated too! As is every Republican candidate still in the race.
Dems are going to oppose any5hing we do , so thats a non-issue from the start in regards to Trump IMHO.tYR

If they stand in his way just on principle or because they don't like Trump - they are then ignoring their constituents and America. For FAR too long they have been completely ignoring what it is that the people want, and playing their little games down there.

hjmick
02-29-2016, 07:01 PM
I think PP depends on all of congress, but he has stated he is all for it. I suppose that depends on congress. The wall I TRULY believe he'll start in the first year, without a doubt, and I'll eat my words if he doesn't. I also believe he changes things up with tariffs and fees with Mexico and that the wall will be paid off in time based on that, not on them simply 'paying for the wall'.

Short of an executive order, he doesn't nothing to harm the 2nd. This would take congress and then likely the SC if someone were to try and make any changes.

I can see others trying to get into his way, but I think what would need to be done is what is good for America. If congress members purposely stop him, I hope they are at least siding with what the American people want, and not just stopping him because they don't like him. A good way to find ones self unemployed come the following election.

As for executive orders, I'll have to wait an see. I don't want to jump the gun and accuse him of overstepping, at least not until he oversteps. I can't imagine anyone in this world beating out Obama with the behind the scenes power grabs and EO's. Somethings along that line are necessary, but not living out ones entire term doing so.

I think he'll do fine in the majority of areas should he have a chance to work at things. I don't have the same silly notion as others that he is an undercover liberal and will somehow set out for liberal agendas once in office.


I'm a cynic, and not without good reason...


I don't see him as a liberal or a conservative but as an opportunist. He gives me bad vibes. The man, as far as I can tell, as never done anything unless it furthered his brand. I don't trust him, never have, never will.

If he wins, all I can say is, I hope you're right and I'm wrong.

jimnyc
02-29-2016, 07:38 PM
I'm a cynic, and not without good reason...


I don't see him as a liberal or a conservative but as an opportunist. He gives me bad vibes. The man, as far as I can tell, as never done anything unless it furthered his brand. I don't trust him, never have, never will.

If he wins, all I can say is, I hope you're right and I'm wrong.

With the way our system is designed we are never going to see someone walk into office and accomplish everything they promise in their campaigns. Sometimes, but not all of them. The other idiots in Washington get in the way. The only hope is to still have a good majority in the house and senate, and then see what can get done. But right now, outside of garbage, absolutely nothing is getting done. I think if we see a Trump administration that we will see more things get done.

Whoever gets into office, I hope whoever that person is they don't spend however much time they have worrying about which groups to bow to next. Obama has bowed to foreign leaders, and just about every whiny group that can be found in America. Perhaps some 'whining' should be heard, but leave that for others, I'm hoping for a president with a set of 'nads that will roll up the sleeves and get shit done.

LongTermGuy
02-29-2016, 08:17 PM
With the way our system is designed we are never going to see someone walk into office and accomplish everything they promise in their campaigns. Sometimes, but not all of them. The other idiots in Washington get in the way. The only hope is to still have a good majority in the house and senate, and then see what can get done. But right now, outside of garbage, absolutely nothing is getting done. I think if we see a Trump administration that we will see more things get done.

Whoever gets into office, I hope whoever that person is they don't spend however much time they have worrying about which groups to bow to next. Obama has bowed to foreign leaders, and just about every whiny group that can be found in America. Perhaps some 'whining' should be heard, but leave that for others, I'm hoping for a president with a set of 'nads that will roll up the sleeves and get shit done.

Well said Jimmy...

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Abbey Marie
02-29-2016, 09:36 PM
Because Trump appeals by being non- Establishment, and has made such sweeping strong promises, I believe expectations for him to deliver on his promises are higher than with any other candidate. Perhaps of any in history.

Kathianne
02-29-2016, 09:40 PM
Because Trump appeals by being non- Establishment, I believe expectations for him to deliver on his promises are higher than with any other candidate. Perhaps of any in history.

I'm not so sure that his supporters won't blame everyone but Trump. Considering he's blamed an earpiece for not disavowing KKK and Duke; a Hispanic judge in his fraud case; the contractor in his illegal hires cases, what can else can be expected?

jimnyc
03-01-2016, 04:18 AM
Because Trump appeals by being non- Establishment, and has made such sweeping strong promises, I believe expectations for him to deliver on his promises are higher than with any other candidate. Perhaps of any in history.

A lot of truth to that, since people are so pissed, they will be looking for huge sweeping changes, and from every corner. I think Trump can get a lot done if elected, but obviously not every little detail. And while he has some faults, as every single candidates does, his supporters don't blame others.

But just as congress can unfortunately get in the way of trade reform, they can get in the way of other things, and they will.