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Kathianne
02-08-2016, 08:32 PM
I went home yesterday with sore shoulder. Ouch. Stayed home today and was already off for tomorrow. So, lots more time to see what is being reported.

Hillary looks to be getting clobbered by the Grandpa socialist.
Rubio down, though not sure that isn't going to be a onefer.
Surprise though is that late polling seems to show Bush rising to 2nd or 3rd. Will it mean he goes beyond SC?

Trump should be in first by 10 pts from what is being reported.

Black Diamond
02-09-2016, 01:27 AM
I went home yesterday with sore shoulder. Ouch. Stayed home today and was already off for tomorrow. So, lots more time to see what is being reported.

Hillary looks to be getting clobbered by the Grandpa socialist.
Rubio down, though not sure that isn't going to be a onefer.
Surprise though is that late polling seems to show Bush rising to 2nd or 3rd. Will it mean he goes beyond SC?

Trump should be in first by 10 pts from what is being reported.
Jeb has his brother in South Carolina I heard. So who knows what will happen.

NightTrain
02-09-2016, 06:16 AM
I saw a poll where Bush was surging into 2nd - but all the others had him down where he's normally been performing.

All of them are pointing to Rubio dropping... I think the last debate wounded him badly.


Anyone else think that Christie would make a great AG? I can't forgive him for the Obama bootlicking in '12, but he's damned sharp.

Perianne
02-09-2016, 06:44 AM
I saw a poll where Bush was surging into 2nd - but all the others had him down where he's normally been performing.

All of them are pointing to Rubio dropping... I think the last debate wounded him badly.


Anyone else think that Christie would make a great AG? I can't forgive him for the Obama bootlicking in '12, but he's damned sharp.

The Obama "bootlicking" bothered me, too. But consider this: Obama was in the position to bring relief to Christie's state. There was no reason to not drop politics and do what his state needed.

It's how I look at it.

Black Diamond
02-09-2016, 06:55 AM
I saw a poll where Bush was surging into 2nd - but all the others had him down where he's normally been performing.

All of them are pointing to Rubio dropping... I think the last debate wounded him badly.


Anyone else think that Christie would make a great AG? I can't forgive him for the Obama bootlicking in '12, but he's damned sharp.
He's tough as nails.

NightTrain
02-09-2016, 07:13 AM
The Obama "bootlicking" bothered me, too. But consider this: Obama was in the position to bring relief to Christie's state. There was no reason to not drop politics and do what his state needed.

It's how I look at it.


That's a good point, and if it wasn't at a crucial time in the '12 election I probably would have given him a pass on that.

It always seemed clear to me that the Fed funds would have been delivered just because of the election, with or without the bootlicking and hugs.
But maybe Christie knew more about that than me... maybe. :coffee:

Perianne
02-09-2016, 07:37 AM
That's a good point, and if it wasn't at a crucial time in the '12 election I probably would have given him a pass on that.

It always seemed clear to me that the Fed funds would have been delivered just because of the election, with or without the bootlicking and hugs.
But maybe Christie knew more about that than me... maybe. :coffee:

And perhaps hugging is a Christie thing. Some people like to hug others. Here is a photo from last week of him about to hug Hillary Clinton.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8366&stc=1

NightTrain
02-09-2016, 07:50 AM
And perhaps hugging is a Christie thing. Some people like to hug others. Here is a photo from last week of him about to hug Hillary Clinton.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8366&stc=1


Wow... if he wants to actually win an election as a conservative, he'd better get that hug-a-lib problem of his under control.

I can almost hear every one of his handlers smashing their faces into their desks in the background here.

If I were one of the other candidates, I'd be sure to ask him on stage how his hugging campaign is going. Obama hug - check. Hillary hug - check. All he needs now to complete his checklist is a nice big hug and maybe even a smooch on Sanders' leathery cheek.

Kathianne
02-09-2016, 07:55 AM
Wow... if he wants to actually win an election as a conservative, he'd better get that hug-a-lib problem of his under control.

I can almost hear every one of his handlers smashing their faces into their desks in the background here.

If I were one of the other candidates, I'd be sure to ask him on stage how his hugging campaign is going. Obama hug - check. Hillary hug - check. All he needs now to complete his checklist is a nice big hug and maybe even a smooch on Sanders' leathery cheek.

I agree with the optics, not good. OTOH I do think one needs to keep in perspective that these folks are all, including Trump, part of a small elite. They are often at the same venues and for professional and personal reasons interact often.

Trump's daughter and Clinton's are friends, both have said so.

Like it or not, politicians do have to get along to some degree-to get anything done.

The other night at the debate, when ABC screwed up the intros, we saw various candidates pass Carson, then Trump while they were standing there. No one has been harder on Trump than Bush, yet when passing he patted Trump's shoulder, Trump smiled back.

Perianne
02-09-2016, 08:11 AM
I agree with the optics, not good. OTOH I do think one needs to keep in perspective that these folks are all, including Trump, part of a small elite. They are often at the same venues and for professional and personal reasons interact often.

Trump's daughter and Clinton's are friends, both have said so.

Like it or not, politicians do have to get along to some degree-to get anything done.

The other night at the debate, when ABC screwed up the intros, we saw various candidates pass Carson, then Trump while they were standing there. No one has been harder on Trump than Bush, yet when passing he patted Trump's shoulder, Trump smiled back.

Interesting timing, Kathianne. I had just now started a thread about this introduction.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?53789-Classy-Trump&p=797256#post797256