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LongTermGuy
11-20-2015, 04:17 PM
*I first heard of this On Rush today while driving...and "Rush played all the transcripts" for all to hear....as I post this...I'm still hearing the Lie being Pushed (on the Tv and radio).....When the rest of the Americans find out the Truth it will make Donald Trump stronger and rise even more in the Polls....

*This is catching on fast....as the Truth comes out....and good people are exposing the Left (Liberals) smear campaign of FEAR!

​*So many still believe what the "drooling left leaning Media" say`s and still trying to take Trump down...with out following up and doing the research...Even Cruz (oops@!) made a mistake today commenting negatively on this false story put out by the left...

"The Hill is making headlines this morning with a headline of their own suggesting that Donald Trump is “open to special ID for Muslim-Americans”....*Except that’s not what he said.The Hill is reporting on an interview that Trump gave to Yahoo News (https://www.yahoo.com/politics/donald-trump-has-big-plans-1303117537878070.html) and here’s the exact exchange that generated The Hill’s bogus headline:

http://twitchy.com/2015/11/19/no-donald-trump-didnt-say-hes-open-to-special-id-for-muslim-americans/


*More as the Bullshit from the Liberals gets exposed...

"How the Media Smeared Donald Trump as a Nazi"


http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/11/Donald-Trump-Scott-Olson-Getty-640x480.jpg

"A story (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/trump-crosses-the-nazi-line-maybe-muslims-should-wear-special-id-badges/) is making the rounds on Facebook that claims Republican frontrunner Donald Trump is calling for “ID badges” for American Muslims. The image on the story is of Jewish children wearing yellow starts during the Holocaust. Very frightening–and a lie."

*Step 1: Seed. The lie begins with a Yahoo! profile (https://www.yahoo.com/politics/donald-trump-has-big-plans-1303117537878070.html) in which <nobr>Trump (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/19/how-the-media-smeared-donald-trump-as-a-nazi/#)</nobr> is asked, supposedly (the reporter does not provide his exact question), if he would “require <nobr>registering (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/19/how-the-media-smeared-donald-trump-as-a-nazi/#)</nobr>Muslims in a database or giving them a form of special identification that noted their religion.”
Trump does not say yes or no. Instead, he dodges the question, and comes back to the question of monitoring mosques (which the U.S. has done in the past): “We’re going to have to–we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump said when presented with the idea. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”
The Yahoo! reporter, Hunter Walker (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/12/30/is-hunter-walker-team-hillarys-latest-hit-man/) (a hater (https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/644975066980188160) of note), construes Trump’s answer as follows: “He wouldn’t rule it out.”

Step 2: Amplify. The story is picked up by CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/19/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-threat-to-country/index.html). Sara Murray asks whether Trump would “rule out” a database for Muslims–borrowing from Walker’s article. Trump is surprised, and tells her, truthfully, that he never responded to Walker’s question.
Here is their exchange, as reported by CNN:
When Murray asked whether Trump would rule out a database for Muslims, he said he didn’t “know where you heard that.”
“Yahoo News asked you about it, you didn’t rule it out,” Murray said as Trump worked a ropeline after the event.
“No, I never — I never responded to that question,” Trump said.
“So would you not support it?” Murray asked.
“I never responded to that question, Sara,” Trump said.
He added that he didn’t “know who wrote it,” referring to the <nobr>Yahoo News (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/19/how-the-media-smeared-donald-trump-as-a-nazi/#)</nobr> article, and declined to answer a follow-up question from Murray about whether he would “support something like that,” referring to a Muslim database.


Step 3: Distort. NBC News’ Vaughn Hillyard confronts (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-says-he-would-certainly-implement-muslim-database-n466716) Trump: “Should there be a database system that tracks the Muslims here in this country?” Trump replies: “There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems. And today you can do it. But right now, we have to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what’s happening to this country happen any longer.” Hillyard asks: “But that’s something your White House would like to implement?” Trump: “Oh I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.” Hillyard follows up: What do you think the effect of that would be? How would that work? It would stop people from coming in illegally. We have to stop people from coming into our country illegally.” Hillyard asks if Trump would go to mosques <nobr>to register (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/19/how-the-media-smeared-donald-trump-as-a-nazi/#)</nobr> people. “Different places,” Trump says.
It is clear from the exchange that Trump thinks Hillyard is talking about new entrants to the United States, presumably Syrian refugees. But Hillyard <nobr>reports (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/19/how-the-media-smeared-donald-trump-as-a-nazi/#)</nobr> Trump’s answer as if he is talking unambiguously about Muslims already in the United States.

Step 4: Smear. Hillyard comes back later, asking Trump: “Mr. Trump, why would Muslim databases not be the same thing as requiring Jews to register in Nazi Germany?” Trump realizes Hillyard is out for blood. “You tell me,” he says, and walks away.
The story goes viral: “Donald Trump Is In Favor Of Legally Requiring American Muslims to Register on a Database,” writes (http://time.com/4121511/donald-trump-muslims-database-terrorism/) Zeke Miller of Time, linking to Hillyard’s story at NBC. A proposal Trump never made is now an established mainstream media fact.

[Update: The Washington Post‘s Jose A. DelReal got creative, asking (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/19/donald-trump-wont-rule-out-warrantless-searches-id-cards-for-american-muslims/) the Trump campaign “whether his proposals would require the creation of a special agency.” (The campaign, according to DelReal, did not respond to his query–did not rule it out, perhaps.)]
Note that none of these esteemed journalists bothers to question their own assumptions, or to ask Trump precisely whether he is talking about American citizens or about foreign nationals. They chase their own questions down a broken telephone line.

Step 5: Nazi. Now the dregs of the Internet begin to play up what Yahoo!-CNN-NBC have produced, with Raw Story reporting (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/trump-crosses-the-nazi-line-maybe-muslims-should-wear-special-id-badges/): “Trump crosses the Nazi line: Maybe Muslims should wear special <nobr>ID badges (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/19/how-the-media-smeared-donald-trump-as-a-nazi/#)</nobr>.”
He never said that–but at this stage, who cares."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/19/how-the-media-smeared-donald-trump-as-a-nazi/


"No, Donald Trump Doesn't Want to Register All American Muslims. It's Just Another Media Smear. (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3362985/posts)"
<small style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman';">Daily Wire ^ (http://www.dailywire.com/news/1269/no-donald-trump-doesnt-want-register-all-american-ben-shapiro) </small>

​http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3362985/posts?page=1

Perianne
11-21-2015, 01:34 AM
I'm disappointed. There should be a special ID for Muslims so that all may see. If they are proud of what they are, there shouldn't be a problem with it.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-21-2015, 02:28 AM
I'm disappointed. There should be a special ID for Muslims so that all may see. If they are proud of what they are, there shouldn't be a problem with it.
If they are true muslims--they must hate this nation, its religion, its principles and its peoples(infidels)..
Thats the big secret they, our own government, the dem part and its allies keep from the general population.Tyr

Black Diamond
11-21-2015, 02:32 AM
If they are true muslims--they must hate this nation, its religion, its principles and its peoples(infidels)..
Thats the big secret they, our own government, the dem part and its allies keep from the general population.Tyr
You just hate orphans and widows.

fj1200
11-21-2015, 08:34 AM
"The Hill is making headlines this morning with a headline of their own suggesting that Donald Trump is “open to special ID for Muslim-Americans”....*Except that’s not what he said.The Hill is reporting on an interview that Trump gave to Yahoo News (https://www.yahoo.com/politics/donald-trump-has-big-plans-1303117537878070.html) and here’s the exact exchange that generated The Hill’s bogus headline:


But Trump doesn’t buy it. He also has concerns about the larger Muslim community here in the U.S., he said.Yahoo News asked Trump whether his push for increased surveillance of American Muslims could include warrantless searches. He suggested he would consider a series of drastic measures.
“We’re going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule,” Trump said. “And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”

Yahoo News asked Trump whether this level of tracking might require registering Muslims in a database or giving them a form of special identification that noted their religion. He wouldn’t rule it out.

“We’re going to have to — we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump said when presented with the idea. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”

But what would those Constitutional things be?

revelarts
11-21-2015, 09:42 AM
He heard the questions fine and answered them off the cuff, probably not realizing what it sounded like. that's my take on it.
now he wants to back pedal.
I suspect if there were no ugly nazi history he and many supporters would agree to it outright (as some on this board seem to) and complain that those apposed to it were sucidal for not agreeing.

Many have already agreed with torture, using the exact same terms the nazis use for it.
We already have the NSA copying every electronic transmission and transaction and saving it more efficiently than the East German commies ever dreamed.
We've invaded other countries that haven't attacked us, Iraq and Libya.
People cheer check points where we have to show our papers, proof citizenship and tell the purpose and destination of travel while being frisked.
Many cheer or nod approvingly when police kill a person on the street for not jumping quickly enough at police commands.

How much farther have we to go to get to the "reporters suggestion"?
One more terror event in the U.S. and i wonder how many here would appose internment camps for muslims.

but somehow it's OK now that the country is a soft fascist/communist tyranny, as long as the 'regular people' are ---or at least feel--- "safe".

LongTermGuy
11-21-2015, 12:49 PM
He heard the questions fine and answered them off the cuff, probably not realizing what it sounded like. that's my take on it.
now he wants to back pedal.
I suspect if there were no ugly nazi history he and many supporters would agree to it outright (as some on this board seem to) and complain that those apposed to it were sucidal for not agreeing.

Many have already agreed with torture, using the exact same terms the nazis use for it.
We already have the NSA copying every electronic transmission and transaction and saving it more efficiently than the East German commies ever dreamed.
We've invaded other countries that haven't attacked us, Iraq and Libya.
People cheer check points where we have to show our papers, proof citizenship and tell the purpose and destination of travel while being frisked.
Many cheer or nod approvingly when police kill a person on the street for not jumping quickly enough at police commands.

How much farther have we to go to get to the "reporters suggestion"?
One more terror event in the U.S. and i wonder how many here would appose internment camps for muslims.

but somehow it's OK now that the country is a soft fascist/communist tyranny, as long as the 'regular people' are ---or at least feel--- "safe".

Theres is no "Back pedaling"...friend...Read the Transcripts...Basically a young "Drooling" indoctrinated reporter trying to make a name for himself...Get a boost and a pat on the back for trying to take Trump down....Many wish what he said was true...in dealing with the muslim roach problem...but its not....many sites are reporting the false Liberal accusations...Watch his numbers go up in the next Poll...Of course...*and when they do...The left will call Americans "stupid" again....cause you see...they feel they know whats good for us....

Drummond
11-21-2015, 12:52 PM
But what would those Constitutional things be?

-- You're worried, Mr Leftie ?

Gunny
11-21-2015, 12:53 PM
I'm disappointed. There should be a special ID for Muslims so that all may see. If they are proud of what they are, there shouldn't be a problem with it.

There ALSO shouldn't be an open door for thousands of Syrians to enter this Nation. They need to get in line like everyone else. And sorry, but you got 3 generations of people (not even talking religion) born and bred to hate us.

At WHAT point do we look out for US and quit whining over people playing victim?

LongTermGuy
11-21-2015, 12:57 PM
-- You're worried, Mr Leftie ?

Dont waste your time and energy Brother Drummond.....Its Saturday and Sun-shinning here.....Im going to do some shopping....catch you later...:laugh:

fj1200
11-21-2015, 12:57 PM
-- You're worried, Mr Leftie ?

:rolleyes: It always sucks when people want to do end runs around the Constitution. Just like BO and just like Trump, allegedly, wants. Big government hacks like you hate it when the rule of law gets in the way.

Gunny
11-21-2015, 01:00 PM
Dont waste your time and energy Brother Drummond.....Its Saturday and Sun-shinning here.....Im going to do some shopping....catch you later...:laugh:

Yeah. Got to make a store run too.

You know what I can't find 3-in-1 Oil. You couldn't escape that crap when I was younger. EVERY supermarket and convenience store had it. I need light machine oil, not freakin' water-based WD-40. Dammit.:laugh:

Drummond
11-21-2015, 02:09 PM
:rolleyes: It always sucks when people want to do end runs around the Constitution. Just like BO and just like Trump, allegedly, wants. Big government hacks like you hate it when the rule of law gets in the way.

I think you see your Constitution as defendable as a basis for exercising State control. I've just seen you argue about 'natural rights' ... which is EXACTLY the core argument our LEFTIES offer, when they try and justify the supposedly inviolable position our State-run NHS holds.

Lefties in Britain see our NHS as a 'flagship' implementation of a State-run entity. No matter what its failings are, no matter how much it costs, nothing will convince them that its existence isn't indivisible from a basic 'human right'.

Cue a pro-State dependency culture .. cue also demands for taxes to prop it up, to whatever massively costly extent is necessary to see it through the next fiscal year. Oh, and cue it also, as an argument for the same NHS needing to plunder organs from dead bodies, as a 'basic' State and legislationally-protected, ahem, 'natural right'.

You call me a 'Big Government hack'. Yet, your thinking dovetails well with the very same socially controlling ways ...

namvet
11-21-2015, 03:30 PM
relocate and re educate. oh dear is my Hitlerism showing ??

http://i64.tinypic.com/2817wns.jpg

fj1200
11-22-2015, 03:43 PM
I've just seen you argue about 'natural rights' ... which is EXACTLY the core argument our LEFTIES offer, when they try and justify the supposedly inviolable position our State-run NHS holds.

I've already pointed out you were wrong in the other thread; do I need to do it again?

DragonStryk72
11-22-2015, 03:58 PM
I think you see your Constitution as defendable as a basis for exercising State control. I've just seen you argue about 'natural rights' ... which is EXACTLY the core argument our LEFTIES offer, when they try and justify the supposedly inviolable position our State-run NHS holds.

Lefties in Britain see our NHS as a 'flagship' implementation of a State-run entity. No matter what its failings are, no matter how much it costs, nothing will convince them that its existence isn't indivisible from a basic 'human right'.

Cue a pro-State dependency culture .. cue also demands for taxes to prop it up, to whatever massively costly extent is necessary to see it through the next fiscal year. Oh, and cue it also, as an argument for the same NHS needing to plunder organs from dead bodies, as a 'basic' State and legislationally-protected, ahem, 'natural right'.

You call me a 'Big Government hack'. Yet, your thinking dovetails well with the very same socially controlling ways ...

"We hold these truths to he self-evident, that all men are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that chief among these rights are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"

Natural Rights have been a part of the US since it's founding, and we're part of the core of their argument against British rule. Unless you're prepared to prove the Founders were leftists, you're using the wrong thing as a point of proof.