Buck v. Bell

[Hagbard Celine]

Buck v. Bell, 274 U.S. 200 (1927), was the United States Supreme Court ruling that upheld a statute instituting compulsory sterilization of the mentally retarded "for the protection and health of the state." It was largely seen as an endorsement of negative eugenics—the attempt to improve the human race by eliminating "defectives" from the gene pool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell

I was thoroughly surprised to find out about this. It seems to me that re-instituting this practice might be a good thing. :dunno:

I love the famous quote by the Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. : "Three generations of imbeciles are enough." :laugh:

[Nukeman]

Buck v. Bell, 274 U.S. 200 (1927), was the United States Supreme Court ruling that upheld a statute instituting compulsory sterilization of the mentally retarded "for the protection and health of the state." It was largely seen as an endorsement of negative eugenics—the attempt to improve the human race by eliminating "defectives" from the gene pool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell

I was thoroughly surprised to find out about this. It seems to me that re-instituting this practice might be a good thing. :dunno:

I love the famous quote by the Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. : "Three generations of imbeciles are enough." :laugh:Most mentaly challenged people dont procreate so this really isn't an issue. Now if your willing to say the al those DImocrats should get sterlized than hey step on up....:laugh2::laugh2: just kidding

I dont believe in the forced sterliaztion of anyone unless they are convicted of killing thier own children, than it should be mandatory

Also I would comment on the fact that this was a very ignorant time inthe world and the US. We have come a long way since this type of thought was common place....

[Hagbard Celine]

I knew one of you would turn this into a Libs/Cons beat-off fest, I just didn't think it would be on the very first post. Congrats on lowering the bar once again.

You don't think three-striker criminals, poverty-stricken baby factories living on welfare and the like should be sterilized?

[Nukeman]

I knew one of you would turn this into a Libs/Cons beat-off fest, I just didn't think it would be on the very first post. Congrats on lowering the bar once again.

You don't think three-striker criminals, poverty-stricken baby factories living on welfare and the like should be sterilized?
Obviously you missed the "just kidding" there didn't yaa sparky. To quote Sargent Hulka from Stripes "Lighten Up there Frances"

You know I dont believe they should be "sterlized" however there are other types of control. for one any woman or man for that matter on any type of assistance should not be allowed to claim any more children than they start with. One thing that could be done for the woman is that in order to recieve state funds they must recieve a depro prevara shot. This is one of the best types of birthcontrol.

The three strikers I dont think should be sterlized either. You do know that some of those "three strikers" are in for minor drugs and other stupid stuff. Hey this is just my oppinion

[Hagbard Celine]

Obviously you missed the "just kidding" there didn't yaa sparky. To quote Sargent Hulka from Stripes "Lighten Up there Frances"

You know I dont believe they should be "sterlized" however there are other types of control. for one any woman or man for that matter on any type of assistance should not be allowed to claim any more children than they start with. One thing that could be done for the woman is that in order to recieve state funds they must recieve a depro prevara shot. This is one of the best types of birthcontrol.

The three strikers I dont think should be sterlized either. You do know that some of those "three strikers" are in for minor drugs and other stupid stuff. Hey this is just my oppinion

I'm glad that you don't demonize guys in on drug charges. I get what ur sayin', but what about violent criminals or rapists (is there a difference?). Wouldn't it be fitting to keep them from procreating?

[glockmail]

I knew one of you would turn this into a Libs/Cons beat-off fest, I just didn't think it would be on the very first post. Congrats on lowering the bar once again.

You don't think three-striker criminals, poverty-stricken baby factories living on welfare and the like should be sterilized?

I think we should kill all violent murderers, so sterilization would not be necessary. Regards to felons and baby factories, only in extreme cases.

BTW with regards to the dimocrats remark, we don't have to sterilize them as they are aborting themselves out of existance. Hail Roe V. Wade. :poke:

[nevadamedic]

I think we should kill all violent murderers, so sterilization would not be necessary. Regards to felons and baby factories, only in extreme cases.

BTW with regards to the dimocrats remark, we don't have to sterilize them as they are aborting themselves out of existance. Hail Roe V. Wade. :poke:

You left out rapists, they all should get the death penalty as well. When they rape or molest someone they are killing a part of them.

As far as sterilization I don't think the Government has the right to do that anmore.

[Psychoblues]

You children!!!!!! I love all you children!!!!!!!!!

[Nukeman]

You children!!!!!! I love all you children!!!!!!!!!
and why prey tell are we "children" in your opinion...

You are such a drunk ass!!!!!!!!!!!

[KarlMarx]

The Nazis did much the same thing, except they permanently sterilized the retarded by killing them in mass quantities.

[Hagbard Celine]

The Nazis did much the same thing, except they permanently sterilized the retarded by killing them in mass quantities.

They practiced eugenics in order to make their "race" stronger. But as Buck v. Bell demonstrates, so did we until about the time we started fighting Naziism.

[manu1959]

You left out rapists, they all should get the death penalty as well. When they rape or molest someone they are killing a part of them.

As far as sterilization I don't think the Government has the right to do that anmore.

some sex offenders accept sterilization as a condition of release

[manu1959]

They practiced eugenics in order to make their "race" stronger. But as Buck v. Bell demonstrates, so did we until about the time we started fighting Naziism.

a competitive capitalistic society would do the same thing.....except we have welfare, food stamps and thousands of social programs that prevent the gene pool from strengthen.....because we actually reward the inept

[diuretic]

I used to love the looks on my student's faces when I gave them the material on eugenics and included this case and Oliver Wendell Holmes' statement. They had no idea of the extent of eugenics in the US at that time. But to be fair it was big in the UK as well at that time. The medical profession in Germany under the Nazi regime was extremely enthusiastic about it and that was even before the Holocaust/Shoah.

[glockmail]

a competitive capitalistic society would do the same thing.....except we have welfare, food stamps and thousands of social programs that prevent the gene pool from strengthen.....because we actually reward the inept Absolutely. Socialism reverses the evolution and progress of man. But we've had this conversation before, as I recall.

[Psychoblues]

Have you read the rest of this thread, nuker?



and why prey tell are we "children" in your opinion...

You are such a drunk ass!!!!!!!!!!!

If you need explanation and introspective examination I suggest you talk to your doctor.

You are such a dumb ass!!!!!!!!!!

[Hugh Lincoln]

I used to love the looks on my student's faces when I gave them the material on eugenics and included this case and Oliver Wendell Holmes' statement. They had no idea of the extent of eugenics in the US at that time. But to be fair it was big in the UK as well at that time. The medical profession in Germany under the Nazi regime was extremely enthusiastic about it and that was even before the Holocaust/Shoah.

And I'm sure you tell your students that Jews have been practicing eugenics for 3,000 years, through the practice of marrying the more intelligent to the more intelligent to create super-smart people, putting their mentally ill in solitude, rejecting outmarriage, slaughtering enemies in their midst, etc.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Eugenics/jewish_eugenics.htm

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=0503

[glockmail]

And I'm sure you tell your students that Jews have been practicing eugenics for 3,000 years, through the practice of marrying the more intelligent to the more intelligent to create super-smart people, putting their mentally ill in solitude, rejecting outmarriage, slaughtering enemies in their midst, etc.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Eugenics/jewish_eugenics.htm

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=0503

I made sure that I married someone at least as intelligent as I, why shouldn't the Jews?

[Nukeman]

Have you read the rest of this thread, nuker?




If you need explanation and introspective examination I suggest you talk to your doctor.

You are such a dumb ass!!!!!!!!!!Yaa Phsyco!!! I have read the rest of the thread. Like all your other post on this board, this one once again makes no sense or even relates to the topic at hand....

Since your soooo fucking smart why are we children in your estimation, and what exactly does that have to do with this thread... How old do you believe most on this board are??? DUMB ASS

[diuretic]

And I'm sure you tell your students that Jews have been practicing eugenics for 3,000 years, through the practice of marrying the more intelligent to the more intelligent to create super-smart people, putting their mentally ill in solitude, rejecting outmarriage, slaughtering enemies in their midst, etc.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Eugenics/jewish_eugenics.htm

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=0503

No I don't actually because I'm more interested in the fact that the law allowed and encouraged eugenics in the US and in Europe and a judge like Holmes pronounced the way he did. Do you know Irish Catholics were targeted by the eugenicists?

Re your links - your first one is by Frederick Tobin, the well-known Holocaust denier so I'd take anything I read there with a sack of salt.

Your second one looks like a conspiracy-theory site.

Do a bit of reading on some sites that are worthy of being cited.

[Psychoblues]

You are such a needle dick, rather like a mosquito!!!!!!!



Yaa Phsyco!!! I have read the rest of the thread. Like all your other post on this board, this one once again makes no sense or even relates to the topic at hand....

Since your soooo fucking smart why are we children in your estimation, and what exactly does that have to do with this thread... How old do you believe most on this board are??? DUMB ASS

No comment but plenty of venom for the Psychoblues!!!!!! OUCH, I mean ouch. Slap!!!!!! You're dead.

[nevadamedic]

And I'm sure you tell your students that Jews have been practicing eugenics for 3,000 years, through the practice of marrying the more intelligent to the more intelligent to create super-smart people, putting their mentally ill in solitude, rejecting outmarriage, slaughtering enemies in their midst, etc.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Eugenics/jewish_eugenics.htm

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=0503

You think Frederick Tobin is on the up and up and the Haluocost didn't exist?

[Psychoblues]

It's all a perspective thing.



You think Frederick Tobin is on the up and up and the Haluocost didn't exist?

How are perspectives created?

[Nukeman]

You are such a needle dick, rather like a mosquito!!!!!!!




No comment but plenty of venom for the Psychoblues!!!!!! OUCH, I mean ouch. Slap!!!!!! You're dead.

Once again absolutely nothing to do with the thread at hand.....


DUMB ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[diuretic]

You think Frederick Tobin is on the up and up and the Haluocost didn't exist?

I haven't got any personal experience beyond speaking to some survivors of the Holocaust/Shoah. I have to say I didn't discuss it at length or in great depth with them. But I have no doubt it happened. You see the tattoo on the arm of a Jewish woman in her eighties and it's difficult to ask too many questions in depth.

[Psychoblues]

Just following your lead, nuker.




Once again absolutely nothing to do with the thread at hand.....


DUMB ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!

And you call me a "dumb ass?" You fuckin' idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!