View Full Version : Russia begins air strikes in Syria; Obama admin concedes they have a legitimate role
Little-Acorn
09-30-2015, 11:40 AM
Russian fighters and bombers began attacking targets in Syria this morning. The Russian news agencies claimed they were attacking ISIS targets, but the U.S. immediately pointed out that the Russian air strikes were taking place in cities that had no ISIS presence. They seem more likely to be attacking the rebels that have been resisting Bashir al-Assad's forces.
A Russian general spoke to Pentagon officials and told them that Russia wanted American forces out of the area. It is reported that the American officials said they would not leave.
Then, in an astonishing speech during a conference chaired by Russia this morning, Secretary of State John Kerry conceded that Russia had a legitimate interest in the middle East, and announced that he would welcome Russian forces in Syria, provided they were attacking the right people. This is a startling reversal of Western policy that Russia should be kept out of the Middle East, a policy that started during WWII and has continued unceasingly to the present day.
During the war, the warring powers including Russia, Britain, and the United States had made agreements that they would leave Iran and other middle East countries once hostilities ceased. Once it was over, most powers did leave, but Russia did not, until considerable pressure (including implied use of the new atomic bomb) had been applied against them. The allies had found out the hard way that Russia did not have the best interests of the Middle East at heart, but only Russia's.
For some reason today, the Obama administration has apparently decided to abandon that policy, welcoming Russia to Syria, despite clear indications that Russia is not interested in defeating ISIS, but only supporting the existing regime, contrary to U.S. policy so far.
Hopefully the Obama administration will think better of this huge concession, and reverse themselves, putting heavy pressure on Russia to butt out. But the Obama regime's supine reaction to Russia's invasion of Ukraine and occupation of the Crimea, does not encourage hope in the middle East situation.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/09/30/boots-on-ground-russian-lawmakers-back-putin-sending-troops-to-syria/?intcmp=hpbt1
revelarts
09-30-2015, 12:17 PM
They seem more likely to be attacking the rebels that have been resisting Bashir al-Assad's forces.
If the forces are fighting Bashir aren't they aligned with ISIS?
everyone that i read about that have been fighting Bashir ..except the u.s supposedly.. has been freindly with ISIS or Converted to ISIS
Black Diamond
09-30-2015, 12:20 PM
Russia wants Assad in power. It assures Russia they will have hegemony over European natural gas market.
Gunny
09-30-2015, 12:31 PM
Russian fighters and bombers began attacking targets in Syria this morning. The Russian news agencies claimed they were attacking ISIS targets, but the U.S. immediately pointed out that the Russian air strikes were taking place in cities that had no ISIS presence. They seem more likely to be attacking the rebels that have been resisting Bashir al-Assad's forces.
A Russian general spoke to Pentagon officials and told them that Russia wanted American forces out of the area. It is reported that the American officials said they would not leave.
Then, in an astonishing speech during a conference chaired by Russia this morning, Secretary of State John Kerry conceded that Russia had a legitimate interest in the middle East, and announced that he would welcome Russian forces in Syria, provided they were attacking the right people. This is a startling reversal of Western policy that Russia should be kept out of the Middle East, a policy that started during WWII and has continued unceasingly to the present day.
During the war, the warring powers including Russia, Britain, and the United States had made agreements that they would leave Iran and other middle East countries once hostilities ceased. Once it was over, most powers did leave, but Russia did not, until considerable pressure (including implied use of the new atomic bomb) had been applied against them. The allies had found out the hard way that Russia did not have the best interests of the Middle East at heart, but only Russia's.
For some reason today, the Obama administration has apparently decided to abandon that policy, welcoming Russia to Syria, despite clear indications that Russia is not interested in defeating ISIS, but only supporting the existing regime, contrary to U.S. policy so far.
Hopefully the Obama administration will think better of this huge concession, and reverse themselves, putting heavy pressure on Russia to butt out. But the Obama regime's supine reaction to Russia's invasion of Ukraine and occupation of the Crimea, does not encourage hope in the middle East situation.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/09/30/boots-on-ground-russian-lawmakers-back-putin-sending-troops-to-syria/?intcmp=hpbt1
Just one more puss-out by this administration.
jimnyc
09-30-2015, 01:02 PM
Create and drop a couple thousand MOAB's, get rid of all sides. :)
Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-30-2015, 03:29 PM
Create and drop a couple thousand MOAB's, get rid of all sides. :)
DESPITE PUTIN'S TRUE MOTIVES AND REPUTATION HE IS ACTUALLY DOING THIS NATION A HUGE FAVOR IF HE DESTROYS ISIS.
For ISIS is the coming Islamic Caliphate!--Tyr
Gunny
09-30-2015, 03:41 PM
Create and drop a couple thousand MOAB's, get rid of all sides. :)
At this point, I'm thinking dropping one on the "Rainbow House" would be appropriate.
Elessar
09-30-2015, 03:41 PM
Just one more puss-out by this administration.
They are all Hat and no Cattle...
GWB had faults, but he also had balls and resolve.:salute:
Gunny
09-30-2015, 03:45 PM
They are all Hat and no Cattle...
GWB had faults, but he also had balls and resolve.:salute:
All hat and no cattle ... I LIKE that one.
Know what you call a Vietnamese with two dogs? A wealthy rancher. :laugh:
namvet
10-03-2015, 12:12 PM
Syria was allowing Iran to transport weapons to Hamas to kill Jews. flatten it
Gunny
10-03-2015, 12:17 PM
Syria was allowing Iran to transport weapons to Hamas to kill Jews. flatten it
Russia is supporting Assad, not going after ISIS. I think we should flatten the entire region including Saudi Arabia.
namvet
10-03-2015, 12:19 PM
Russia is supporting Assad, not going after ISIS. I think we should flatten the entire region including Saudi Arabia.
and you can bet the IDF wants a piece of this
Gunny
10-03-2015, 12:26 PM
and you can bet the IDF wants a piece of this
This is no shit, but I couldn't decide at one point whether I wanted to join the Corps or the IDF. Decision came down to I'm not Jewish and don't speak Hebrew. I joined during the Iran Hostage Crisis to go kill Iranians. Having more sea time than a lot of people have TIS, having been there, screw the place. Just a big kittly litter box full of backwards assed idiots who've been a continual pain in the ass since the 7th century.
Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
10-03-2015, 12:29 PM
Syria was allowing Iran to transport weapons to Hamas to kill Jews. flatten it
Only if we EXTERMINATE ISIS first! We knock the Assad controlled Syria out and ISIS takes over its even worse for us and for Israel..
ISIS IS THE COMING CALIPHATE. Thats why the obama only pretends to be fighting it.
bambastard sent all those armored vehicles weapons etc over there and had the forces being trained to fight ISIS-
runaway and leave billions of dollars worth of armored weapons for ISIS to just walk in an grab!
All as if no orders could be given to use explosive ordinance to destroy said tanks/armored vehicles before running away.
It was planned that way amigo..
Just lie BENGHAZI GAVE EM THOSE NEWEST, BEST SHOULDER FIRED MISSILES TO USE AND WAS COVERED UP AS A RAID ON THE AMERICAN CONSULATE.--Tyr
So just to clarify from the OP
During the war, the warring powers including Russia, Britain, and the United States had made agreements that they would leave Iran and other middle East countries once hostilities ceased.
For some reason today, the Obama administration has apparently decided to abandon that policy, welcoming Russia to Syria
At what point does it go from 'Three nations agreed to not do X' to 'One nation that's already doing X agrees that another nation can do X'?
Or is the OP just poorly written?
namvet
10-03-2015, 12:40 PM
Only if we EXTERMINATE ISIS first! We knock the Assad controlled Syria out and ISIS takes over its even worse for us and for Israel..
ISIS IS THE COMING CALIPHATE. Thats why the obama only pretends to be fighting it.
bambastard sent all those armored vehicles weapons etc over there and had the forces being trained to fight ISIS-
runaway and leave billions of dollars worth of armored weapons for ISIS to just walk in an grab!
All as if no orders could be given to use explosive ordinance to destroy said tanks/armored vehicles before running away.
It was planned that way amigo..
Just lie BENGHAZI GAVE EM THOSE NEWEST, BEST SHOULDER FIRED MISSILES TO USE AND WAS COVERED UP AS A RAID ON THE AMERICAN CONSULATE.--Tyr
looks like these ISIS fucks are running pallywood just like hamas
TERROR EXPERTS: ISIS Video Depicting Egyptian Execution Footage ‘Faked’
https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/islamic-state.jpg
IMAGE: ‘Larger than Life’ – Notice the extreme height difference between the apparent ISIS members, as they dwarf the alleged Egyptian victims. ( Photo link nationalpost.com)
Gunny
10-03-2015, 12:44 PM
Only if we EXTERMINATE ISIS first! We knock the Assad controlled Syria out and ISIS takes over its even worse for us and for Israel..
ISIS IS THE COMING CALIPHATE. Thats why the obama only pretends to be fighting it.
bambastard sent all those armored vehicles weapons etc over there and had the forces being trained to fight ISIS-
runaway and leave billions of dollars worth of armored weapons for ISIS to just walk in an grab!
All as if no orders could be given to use explosive ordinance to destroy said tanks/armored vehicles before running away.
It was planned that way amigo..
Just lie BENGHAZI GAVE EM THOSE NEWEST, BEST SHOULDER FIRED MISSILES TO USE AND WAS COVERED UP AS A RAID ON THE AMERICAN CONSULATE.--Tyr
Lesson learned: we should never have taken out Saddam without being prepared to take out the entire region. He sat right between the Sunni and Shia. What we're seeing now is the result of removing the joker from the deck.
Now Russia's involved and Mr Nutless is just getting punked out again. As an American and a Marine, he's embarrassing the shit out of us.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved.