'Cuckservatives' ... real, or imaginary ?

[Drummond]

Hi folks.

As I've said just recently, I'm sharing my time out between posting on this forum, and a British one.

Well ... on that British one, one of their contributors has raised a point which I believe to be just a load of propagandist bilge .. BUT .. I thought I'd also test the water out here, to see what (if any) reactions it brings. I've advised the originator of this that I'd be referring this across to an American forum for reaction(s).

So, here is what I'm referring to, from that forum. Any/all reactions welcomed !


A new term has become very popular in the US (and now beyond) for classifying the American 'conservative' and mainstream right. It perfectly encapsulates why they are not conservatives and not right-wing. Please read the following as it gives a brief overview of the new term and why is so very applicable:

http://www.radixjournal.com/blog/201...nition?rq=cuck (http://www.radixjournal.com/blog/2015/7/16/cuckservative-a-definition?rq=cuck)

If you believe that this doesn't apply to the sort of American conservatism that you're talking about, could you give me some names of people, or organisations, websites etc. that encapsulate your vision of proper, real, right-wing Americans.

[tailfins]

A lefty telling a conservative how to be a more pure conservative is like a Unitarian Universalist telling a German Baptist how to be a stricter Christian.

[Drummond]

A lefty telling a conservative how to be a more pure conservative is like a Unitarian Universalist telling a German Baptist how to be a stricter Christian.

Well, thanks, but that's not helping much ! I want to know if the term 'Cuckservative' is even a real one, or, as I believe, someone's propagandist invention (I think the whole thing is just that). Also .. the link the quote carried ... does it come within a light year of anyone's perception of reality, in any respect whatsoever ???

[fj1200]

http://bfy.tw/1nma

[jimnyc]

Well, thanks, but that's not helping much ! I want to know if the term 'Cuckservative' is even a real one, or, as I believe, someone's propagandist invention (I think the whole thing is just that). Also .. the link the quote carried ... does it come within a light year of anyone's perception of reality, in any respect whatsoever ???

It's not a real term. Some dipshits just "invented" it not long ago. Anyone can invent words and put them on Wikipedia these days, just like homophobia, another invented word which literally makes no sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckservative

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Hi folks.

As I've said just recently, I'm sharing my time out between posting on this forum, and a British one.

Well ... on that British one, one of their contributors has raised a point which I believe to be just a load of propagandist bilge .. BUT .. I thought I'd also test the water out here, to see what (if any) reactions it brings. I've advised the originator of this that I'd be referring this across to an American forum for reaction(s).

So, here is what I'm referring to, from that forum. Any/all reactions welcomed !

Never heard the derogatory term before but does not shock me because we conservatives have been called every bad name in the book!
That article was posted by a leftist/liberal fool.
Pay no attention to it and ignore the guy that brought it to your attention. As obviously he operates in the dark and with stupid and false information.
Feel free to use this post there.
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/28/cuckservative-is-a-gloriously-effective-insult-that-should-not-be-slurred-demonised-or-ridiculed/

‘CUCKSERVATIVE’ IS A GLORIOUSLY EFFECTIVE INSULT THAT SHOULD NOT BE SLURRED, DEMONISED, OR RIDICULED


Well! What a lot of drama in the conservative blogosphere over an apparently trivial diss: the word “cuckservative.” I’m going to lose some friends and admirers with what follows, but who cares. Let me explain to you what you should think about this ridiculous internecine quarrel.

The drama started on July 22, when Rush Limbaugh referred to critics of Donald Trump as “cuckolded Republicans.” A day later, Red State’s Erick Erickson said the term was “coined by white supremacists” as a “slur against Christian voters.” This was echoed by a Daily Caller columnist, and then reported on in the liberal New Republic. By then, the internet was on fire with allegations that “cuckservative” was a racist term.

As a helpful right-wing blogger recently noted, I have “literally taken black dicks in the ass.” So, as the leading conservative authority on interracial intercourse, I therefore feel compelled to set the record straight on the so-called racial origin and dimensions of this insult.

Here’s my verdict: all the writers above are wrong. As someone who’s been covering web culture and online memes for years and who has a great deal of respect for how well many right-wingers have taken to internet culture, I’m slightly embarrassed by my fellow conservatives’ inability to understand a term that returned to popular use not on white power websites, but on 4chan.

I should say at this point that I’m not a user of the hashtag. I’m probably one of its targets, in fact: I score at least 5/10 on this checklist.

Before it became a 4chan meme, “cuckold” was a common term of abuse in mediaeval times and through the Renaissance. Shakespeare plays are replete with the word — that’s where I learned it, anyway, where it’s used as a byword for an emasculated male.

The original meaning, of course, referred to a man with an unfaithful wife. In recent years, it also describes a new sexual fetish where “cuckolds” watch their partners have sex with another person. For some reason, the Daily Caller’s Matt Lewis thinks that exclusively black men feature in this kind of pornography — again, he clearly hasn’t spent enough time on 4chan.

I mean, I’d be fine if that were the case and it were a porn genre devoted solely to black men, obviously. But it simply isn’t, and in any case that’s not the etymology of this term. It didn’t metastasise from porn, but rather from image boards.

On 4chan, “cuck” is used as a general term of abuse, to describe someone who caves in, surrenders, or sells out his core supporters. (His base, in political parlance.) 4chan’s founder Christopher Poole, for example, is called a “cuck,” not for any racially-charged reason, but because he capitulated to outside pressure to ban controversial discussion topics on the website. And because he was allegedly cuckolded in real life – but not by a black man.

It’s easy to see why “cuck” makes such a good insult. It’s a byword for needlessly relinquished manliness, for selling out and caving in. The original metaphor of watching your partner getting slammed by another dude now simply means abandoned principles and a lack of backbone. It’s a byword for beta male or coward.

Semantic shifts like this happen all the time. “Hooligan” used to refer to Irish drunks, “vandal” was about Germans, and the phrase “hip hip hooray” comes from an old European shepherds’ herding cry that in 1819 started to be used as a call-to-arms for citizens Hebrew-hunting in the Jewish ghettos.

But we don’t cry “racist” whenever someone says any of these words. That would be stupid. That would be playing the sort of dumb, disingenuous game that liberal race-baiters do. Right?

Thus, “cuckservative” can mean many things. It could mean conservatives who are afraid of social exclusion and kowtow to the liberal media establishment. It could mean conservatives who play the left’s game of identity politics, accusing their internal opponents, such as Donald Trump, of being racist or sexist or rapey for spurious or opportunistic reasons.
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[Noir]

It's not a real term. Some dipshits just "invented" it not long ago. Anyone can invent words and put them on Wikipedia these days, just like homophobia, another invented word which literally makes no sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckservative

Can you give an example of a word that was not "invented" =/

[Perianne]

Actually, I think there are people like that. It does not fit me, though.

[Drummond]

It's not a real term. Some dipshits just "invented" it not long ago. Anyone can invent words and put them on Wikipedia these days, just like homophobia, another invented word which literally makes no sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckservative

Noted - thank you. I thought as much. And I've just checked out FJ's link offering (which, amazingly, happens to go primarily to a Guardian piece about it). Even so, it's useful, because I suspect that this is the source of where that Brit is getting his propaganda from.

So, thanks. I'll even thank FJ for his contribution !

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Actually, I think there are people like that. It does not fit me, though.

Sure are and they live on the damn left side and act holier than thou in their arrogance and stupidity.-Tyr

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Noted - thank you. I thought as much. And I've just checked out FJ's link offering (which, amazingly, happens to go primarily to a Guardian piece about it). Even so, it's useful, because I suspect that this is the source of where that Brit is getting his propaganda from.

So, thanks. I'll even thank FJ for his contribution !

Check my post-- I gave a better link methinks.. ;)--Tyr

[jimnyc]

Can you give an example of a word that was not "invented" =/

Point being, 3 months ago the word didn't exist. I suppose it will be a term eventually, similarly to homophobia. I suppose in today's society, not many care about "meaning" in words and whether they make any sense.

[Gunny]

Well, thanks, but that's not helping much ! I want to know if the term 'Cuckservative' is even a real one, or, as I believe, someone's propagandist invention (I think the whole thing is just that). Also .. the link the quote carried ... does it come within a light year of anyone's perception of reality, in any respect whatsoever ???

Here's my problem: the entire premise of the statement is bullshit, and feel free to quote me.

One, as we have previously discussed, conservative here and in the UK are two entirely different things.

Two, some dipshit (that would be wanker for you) is just making crap up. Nobody here is using that word. If they were, it would be all over NBC and CNN.

So, what you have is some leftwingnut joystick trying to stir the pot and isn't smart enough to do it.

[Perianne]

Sure are and they live on the damn left side and act holier than thou in their arrogance and stupidity.-Tyr

Exactly. But they think they are conservative and will fight anyone who says otherwise.

[fj1200]

... FJ's link ...

Do you mean google? :eek: It also went to Wikipedia, Salon, Twitter, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Washington Post, American Renaissance, and Red State. All those leftie sites.

[Noir]

Point being, 3 months ago the word didn't exist. I suppose it will be a term eventually, similarly to homophobia. I suppose in today's society, not many care about "meaning" in words and whether they make any sense.

You're sounding a bit 'old man yells at cloud' to be bemoaning the fluid nature of language.

[Drummond]

Never heard the derogatory term before but does not shock me because we conservatives have been called every bad name in the book!
That article was posted by a leftist/liberal fool.
Pay no attention to it and ignore the guy that brought it to your attention. As obviously he operates in the dark and with stupid and false information.
Feel free to use this post there.
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Excellent ! Just what I needed. I've just posted your comment there, on the forum.

We'll see if he accepts what he's told, or tries to continue to push his rot. If he does, I'll have the answer to whether he was duped, or is a propagandist himself.

[jimnyc]

You're sounding a bit 'old man yells at cloud' to be bemoaning the fluid nature of language.

I'm not accepting of "ebonics" either, where some folks say "axe me a question" instead of "ask me a question". Is "axe" a word, because someone can't pronounce it, and therefore just calls it another language?

[Drummond]

Do you mean google? :eek: It also went to Wikipedia, Salon, Twitter, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Washington Post, American Renaissance, and Red State. All those leftie sites.

Little wonder my British 'friend' picked up on it, then ..:rolleyes:

[Drummond]

Here's my problem: the entire premise of the statement is bullshit, and feel free to quote me.

One, as we have previously discussed, conservative here and in the UK are two entirely different things.

Two, some dipshit (that would be wanker for you) is just making crap up. Nobody here is using that word. If they were, it would be all over NBC and CNN.

So, what you have is some leftwingnut joystick trying to stir the pot and isn't smart enough to do it.:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I'll take great pleasure in quoting you !! Many thanks, this is appreciated.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I'm not accepting of "ebonics" either, where some folks say "axe me a question" instead of "ask me a question". Is "axe" a word, because someone can't pronounce it, and therefore just calls it another language?


Is "axe" a word, because someone can't pronounce it, and therefore just calls it another language?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Don't axe me Jim. My axe is dull from chopping down the ignorance trees the leftists/dems/libs grow. :laugh:
They plant them by the millions daily!!! A few being planted here daily by the usual suspects methinks.. --Tyr

[Gunny]

You're sounding a bit 'old man yells at cloud' to be bemoaning the fluid nature of language.

There's nothing fluid about language except for people like you that misuse it.

By definition, I'm a liberal. Y'all have hijacked that word to mean piece of shit idiot now and I can't even use it. A true liberal. by definition, means minding your own business and doing your own thing.

Y'all have turned it into "Nazi asshole". "nigger" means a trashy PERSON. Now it's all about blacks and racist.

Words mean things. Use them for what they mean, not some concocted bullshit you dream up.

[jimnyc]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Don't axe me Jim. My axe is dull from chopping down the ignorance trees the leftists/dems/libs grow. :laugh:
They plant them by the millions daily!!! A few being planted here daily by the usual suspects methinks.. --Tyr

Yeah, the word exists as a tool. But it still needs a meaning, and when it's said in "ebonics", it's meant as the same word as "ask". And it's not of course.

Also, many words have root meanings. Look at homophobia. You can't ignore the phobia, but half of America does. It literally makes no sense and was a word solely made up ti vilify someone opposed to homosexuality with no fear of any kind involved. And yet now it's a "word". Sure, in liberal loony land of course.

[Noir]

I'm not accepting of "ebonics" either, where some folks say "axe me a question" instead of "ask me a question". Is "axe" a word, because someone can't pronounce it, and therefore just calls it another language?

Jeez, we're going deep, I guess next we're gonna be bashing down hoosiers, yeah?

[Gunny]

Yeah, the word exists as a tool. But it still needs a meaning, and when it's said in "ebonics", it's meant as the same word as "ask". And it's not of course.

Also, many words have root meanings. Look at homophobia. You can't ignore the phobia, but half of America does. It literally makes no sense and was a word solely made up ti vilify someone opposed to homosexuality with no fear of any kind involved. And yet now it's a "word". Sure, in liberal loony land of course.

No shit. Think fags are weird? You're a homophobe; Never mind the fact homophobia is a fear of them in literal terms and has nothing to do with them just being biologically abnormal.

I guess you could just call me an "any dipshit, aberrant minority -aphobia" if I have to treat them better than anyone else.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Yeah, the word exists as a tool. But it still needs a meaning, and when it's said in "ebonics", it's meant as the same word as "ask". And it's not of course.

Also, many words have root meanings. Look at homophobia. You can't ignore the phobia, but half of America does. It literally makes no sense and was a word solely made up ti vilify someone opposed to homosexuality with no fear of any kind involved. And yet now it's a "word". Sure, in liberal loony land of course.

I only play into their "liberal lunacy" word games to the extent to criticize their arrogance and massive stupidity.
Other than that I laugh at them....
And rarely do I ever "axe' any of them a question unless it is to expose more of their stupidity. :laugh: -Tyr

[gabosaurus]

I am all for any words that lead to a combative division of the American right.

http://vigilantlibertyradio.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/1086757.jpg

[Gunny]

Jeez, we're going deep, I guess next we're gonna be bashing down hoosiers, yeah?

Do you ever think before opening your mouth?

"They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind"

I'm not even going to bother with this. Jim's one of the few people I know that's as good as or better at syntax than I am. However, if I get bored I might come back.

[jimnyc]

Jeez, we're going deep, I guess next we're gonna be bashing down hoosiers, yeah?

Hoosier has 2 meanings, one being from Indiana, and another being an "awkward unsophisticated person". Also, the part you are pointing out is a nickname. I can accept nicknames if they are made up out of thin air. But not mispronunciations, and twists of words overnight and expecting others to believe it's a word.

[jimnyc]

Do you ever think before opening your mouth?

"They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind"

I'm not even going to bother with this. Jim's one of the few people I know that's as good as or better at syntax than I am. However, if I get bored I might come back.

Not me! I don't know shit about syntax, but I know stupidity when I see it! :laugh: (not you, Noir, the made up words)

[Gunny]

I am all for any words that lead to a combative division of the American right.

http://vigilantlibertyradio.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/1086757.jpg

AKA you're all for calling names without a clue because that's what your sheepherder tells you.

The Klan was Democrats. Might want to choose another picture.

[Noir]

Hoosier has 2 meanings, one being from Indiana, and another being an "awkward unsophisticated person". Also, the part you are pointing out is a nickname. I can accept nicknames if they are made up out of thin air. But not mispronunciations, and twists of words overnight and expecting others to believe it's a word.

Well you didn't quite get what i was getting with the hoosier reference,,,
but that aside - you are aware that 'ask' is a mispronunciation that took hold?
Maybe over the next hundred years 'ax' will replace 'ask', and there'll be old people complaining then about others mispronouncing 'ax' as 'ex'
Such is life.

[Gunny]

Not me! I don't know shit about syntax, but I know stupidity when I see it! :laugh: (not you, Noir, the made up words)

:laugh:

[Gunny]

Well you didn't quite get what i was getting with the hoosier reference,,,
but that aside - you are aware that 'ask' is a mispronunciation that took hold?
Maybe over the next hundred years 'ax' will replace 'ask', and there'll be old people complaining then about others mispronouncing 'ax' as 'ex'
Such is life.

Uh, no? Sorry, but white people don't say 'ax".

And what does "hoosier" have to do with it? That's the name of a team, not a word with a meaning. You're trying to mix words and it doesn't work. The Steelers are called the Steelers because they originated from the US Steel Company in Pittsburgh. The logo on their helmet was the logo of US Steel.

Why are the Redskins called the Redskins? Last place any indian would want to be is Washington DC. Why are the LA Lakers called the Lakers? Because they started out in Minneapolis, the Land of a Thousand Lakes. The Utah Jazz started out in New Orleans.

But comparing team names to every day syntax as a means of communication is dishonest.

[tailfins]

Jeez, we're going deep, I guess next we're gonna be bashing down hoosiers, yeah?

That's a St. Louis thing. In the rest of the country a "Hoosier" is someone from Indiana. In St. Louis it means idiot. There's a rivalry between Missouri and Indiana where those from Indiana are Southern morons that Sherman dropped off along the Wabash River. Why do you think people from Terre Haute and Vincennes speak with a Southern drawl?

Another example: In Florida, it's a badge of pride to be called a "Cracker".

[sundaydriver]

Those that need to demonize anyone with a different view point with names has already lost any arguments that may arise.

[Noir]

And what does "hoosier" have to do with it? That's the name of a team, not a word with a meaning.

It is a word, with a meaning.
A hoosier is a resident of Indiana (among other terms).

Having had hoosier friends, i am aware of some of their colloquialisms and odd pronunciations, which i can only assume Jim has a problem with, thus my inclusion of them in my post.

[Drummond]

Just thought I'd add: I've been supplying feedback to the Brit forum from here, and posting comments of my own along with them.

The point is proved that all that was REALLY happening was that a Leftie was indulging in a bit of propagandising. The comments, quotes, I've been feeding back, haven't been heeded at all. Obviously, to do so would interfere with the agenda being faithfully followed.

So, thanks, all. You see, I had to consider that the Brit was being misled .. it was theoretically possible. Now I know for sure that wasn't true .. just another Leftie pushing his agenda (and his luck).

[tailfins]

Those that need to demonize anyone with a different view point with names has already lost any arguments that may arise.

There's an exception to that: Use the most despised terms possible to test whether there really is Freedom of Speech.

[Gunny]

It is a word, with a meaning.
A hoosier is a resident of Indiana (among other terms).

Having had hoosier friends, i am aware of some of their colloquialisms and odd pronunciations, which i can only assume Jim has a problem with, thus my inclusion of them in my post.

Just brilliant. So I guess a Buckeye is a resident of Ohio?

Might want to run back and do some more homework, junior.

If I have a team called "The Big Red Trucks" because I have one does that mean everyone on the team has a big red truck? Is it descriptive of who they are? Or is it just the name of a team they play for? How many people that play for Indiana are actually FROM Indiana since their scouts cross the US recruiting players? ANd you don't EVEn want to start on Texas teams because I personally don't know any Horned Frogs nor Sun Devils.

As I said, you're being dishonest, but now digging yourself deeper into your hole. The name of sports teams has NOTHING to do with properly using the English language in speech.

[fj1200]

Little wonder my British 'friend' picked up on it, then ..:rolleyes:

psst. They weren't all "leftie sites." ;)

[Elessar]

Can you give an example of a word that was not "invented" =/

How many languages do you speak,
Oh worldly wise one?

[Drummond]

psst. They weren't all "leftie sites." ;)

Naturally, I'd defer to the resident expert on such matters ... :rolleyes:

[Elessar]

You're sounding a bit 'old man yells at cloud' to be bemoaning the fluid nature of language.

Maybe one day you will get out of the basement, off the Internet,
and learn some real life lessons.

As an English Major, I know full well how words and terms
are formed. Semantics was a very interesting course.

[Elessar]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Don't axe me Jim. My axe is dull from chopping down the ignorance trees the leftists/dems/libs grow. :laugh:
They plant them by the millions daily!!! A few being planted here daily by the usual suspects methinks.. --Tyr

Lazy speech....just like lazy ignorant typing - using Text Speak to communicate on a chat board.

[fj1200]

Naturally, I'd defer to the resident expert on such matters ... :rolleyes:

Yes I am an expert in common knowledge. You, however, got trolled by some leftie on some other site and now you've polluted this site with its effluence. Thank you.

[DragonStryk72]

Hi folks.

As I've said just recently, I'm sharing my time out between posting on this forum, and a British one.

Well ... on that British one, one of their contributors has raised a point which I believe to be just a load of propagandist bilge .. BUT .. I thought I'd also test the water out here, to see what (if any) reactions it brings. I've advised the originator of this that I'd be referring this across to an American forum for reaction(s).

So, here is what I'm referring to, from that forum. Any/all reactions welcomed !


Yeah... that is not a term here, neither on the East or West Coast. We use RINO, Republican In Name Only, but that's a different thing. That's your basic conservative who cries out that they're Republican, but also wants further expansion of fed, and yet more spending on various programs.

Conservatism is different here than in the UK, but the term described in the OP isn't in use, or if it is, it's used by a tiny niche of the internet, and it would be specifically a troll term. I mean, you're referencing being a cuckold, that's not exactly being polite, now is it?

[Elessar]

I am all for any words that lead to a combative division of the American right.

http://vigilantlibertyradio.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/1086757.jpg

Your picture has it's roots in Southern Democrats who fought against
the Reconstruction after the Civil War / War Between the States.

The Republicans (the Right) made the attempts to toss down the
people in your image.

Try again, Gabby.....Your Liberal handlers have brainwashed you well.

[DragonStryk72]

Point being, 3 months ago the word didn't exist. I suppose it will be a term eventually, similarly to homophobia. I suppose in today's society, not many care about "meaning" in words and whether they make any sense.

Well, homophobia does exist, just not to the horrible extent everyone takes it.

[Elessar]

Well you didn't quite get what i was getting with the hoosier reference,,,
but that aside - you are aware that 'ask' is a mispronunciation that took hold?
Maybe over the next hundred years 'ax' will replace 'ask', and there'll be old people complaining then about others mispronouncing 'ax' as 'ex'
Such is life.

Do you know the origin of Redneck?

It was originally applied to the independent Coal Miners in West Virginia and Kentucky that fought
against the strict Union bosses and their hired guns.

They tied red bandannas around their necks to be identified.

Betcha did not know that, Oh worldly Sage.

[jimnyc]

Those that need to demonize anyone with a different view point with names has already lost any arguments that may arise.

Agreed - so these idiots probably shouldn't be inventing "vilifying" words like homophobe and homophobia, and the current word of this thread. I'm glad you see what I was saying. :)

[jimnyc]

Well, homophobia does exist, just not to the horrible extent everyone takes it.

Care to explain where the fear is? And please don't say fear of them "growing" or becoming "mainstream", because then there should be hundreds or thousands of other words with phobia at the end. NO ONE IS SCARED of homosexuality or gay marriage - they simply disagree, and some vehemently - but that hardly means any of us/them are scared somehow. It's a BS word simply made up to vilify those who disagree.

People don't like Christianity, are they Christianaphobes?
Some don't like Israel - Israelaphobes?
Some disagree with drug use - drugaphobes?
Many disagree with guns - gunaphobes?
Many disagree with "common core" - commoncoraphobes?
Many disagree with illegal immigration - immigraphobes?

I can go on all day. Words have meanings, Slinging them together in order to make those who disagree look a certain way doesn't magically make them words.

[Gunny]

Do you know the origin of Redneck?

It was originally applied to the independent Coal Miners in West Virginia and Kentucky that fought
against the strict Union bosses and their hired guns.

They tied red bandannas around their necks to be identified.

Betcha did not know that, Oh worldly Sage.

Other way around. :) The union thugs were the "rednecks". That's the whole funny part about the whole thing to me. They completely turned the word around to mean the exact opposite.

Whatever. I'm an f-ing redneck. Anyone waiting on me to be ashamed of that shouldn't be holding their breath. More importantly ... are any of you farmer rednecks? I'm the kind that rides around on horses, but my GF had decided she's farmer f-ing brown this year. And we're talking about someone that can kill rose bushes. I didn't even know you could kill them.:laugh:

Anyway, I got some plant problems if anyone wants to help.

[DLT]

Well, thanks, but that's not helping much ! I want to know if the term 'Cuckservative' is even a real one, or, as I believe, someone's propagandist invention (I think the whole thing is just that). Also .. the link the quote carried ... does it come within a light year of anyone's perception of reality, in any respect whatsoever ???

No, of course it doesn't. When does anything coming from a leftie reflect reality? And notice that Clarke, like most if not all lefties, never bothered to give examples of who, in his mind, qualified for this criteria. How convenient.

It's another catchall slur that (lefties think) can and should (and will) be applied inaccurately to anyone on the right that they deem deserving of their disdain and bashing. Which is, come to think of it, anyone on the right period.

And the lamebrain suggestion that Jeb Bush is one is not only laughable, but asinine. So it goes in lalaleftieland.

[DLT]

Never heard the derogatory term before but does not shock me because we conservatives have been called every bad name in the book!
That article was posted by a leftist/liberal fool.
Pay no attention to it and ignore the guy that brought it to your attention. As obviously he operates in the dark and with stupid and false information.
Feel free to use this post there.
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Actually, the term started before that according to this...


About

Cuckservative is a pejorative portmanteau of cuck (or cuckold) and conservative, typically used by those affiliated with far right internet culture to refer to white Anglo-Christian Republicans in positions of power who respect people of different ethnicities and lifestyles, which some ethnic nationalists and extreme conservatives see as a sign of weakness.

Origin

The exact origin of cuckservative is unknown, but its first recorded uses were in posts to the /pol/ board of 4chan, where combining the term “cuck” with different words for portmanteaus is common. The earliest known instance of use on /pol/ took place on September 26th, 2014, when a user created this post in response to another anon complaining about attending a conservative conference.[1]

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cuckservative

[Gunny]

No, of course it doesn't. When does anything coming from a leftie reflect reality? And notice that Clarke, like most if not all lefties, never bothered to give examples of who, in his mind, qualified for this criteria. How convenient.

It's another catchall slur that (lefties think) can and should (and will) be applied inaccurately to anyone on the right that they deem deserving of their disdain and bashing. Which is, come to think of it, anyone on the right period.

And the lamebrain suggestion that Jeb Bush is one is not only laughable, but asinine. So it goes in lalaleftieland.

I take it you know this brilliant piece of work?:laugh:

[Perianne]

"Cuckservatives" is talked about in the RINO site Nationalreview.com here:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/423849/donald-trump-racist-supporters

[DLT]

It's not a real term. Some dipshits just "invented" it not long ago. Anyone can invent words and put them on Wikipedia these days, just like homophobia, another invented word which literally makes no sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckservative

The idiot left thinks (not really, but they pretend to think) it's a clever insult. It's not...since their own criteria only fits people that are, ironically, like them....liberal. If I want to insult a leftie I call them what I deem THE most insulting term there is. A leftist (formerly termed a liberal)....lol.

[DLT]

Point being, 3 months ago the word didn't exist. I suppose it will be a term eventually, similarly to homophobia. I suppose in today's society, not many care about "meaning" in words and whether they make any sense.

Point being....if the lefties were just half as clever as they always think they are....

they'd still be stuckonstupid. :laugh:

[Gunny]

"Cuckservatives" is talked about in the RINO site Nationalreview.com here:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/423849/donald-trump-racist-supporters


The idiot left thinks (not really, but they pretend to think) it's a clever insult. It's not...since their own criteria only fits people that are, ironically, like them....liberal. If I want to insult a leftie I call them what I deem THE most insulting term there is. A leftist (formerly termed a liberal)....lol.

So excuse me for my lack of brilliance, but what does the word even mean? It makes no sense.

And that wasn't even clever. :laugh:

[DLT]

Hi folks.

As I've said just recently, I'm sharing my time out between posting on this forum, and a British one.

Well ... on that British one, one of their contributors has raised a point which I believe to be just a load of propagandist bilge .. BUT .. I thought I'd also test the water out here, to see what (if any) reactions it brings. I've advised the originator of this that I'd be referring this across to an American forum for reaction(s).

So, here is what I'm referring to, from that forum. Any/all reactions welcomed !

Here's another blurb about the ""new term""....

http://www.redstate.com/2015/07/29/cuckservative-is-a-racist-slur-and-an-attack-on-evangelical-christians/

[Gunny]

Here's another blurb about the ""new term""....

http://www.redstate.com/2015/07/29/cuckservative-is-a-racist-slur-and-an-attack-on-evangelical-christians/

The thing is. most things have a rhyme or reason. Except Noir. Where did the word come from?

[Elessar]

Other way around. :) The union thugs were the "rednecks". That's the whole funny part about the whole thing to me. They completely turned the word around to mean the exact opposite.

Whatever. I'm an f-ing redneck. Anyone waiting on me to be ashamed of that shouldn't be holding their breath. More importantly ... are any of you farmer rednecks? I'm the kind that rides around on horses, but my GF had decided she's farmer f-ing brown this year. And we're talking about someone that can kill rose bushes. I didn't even know you could kill them.:laugh:

Anyway, I got some plant problems if anyone wants to help.

I lived there, Gunny.

And, yes, I had it reversed:

Coal minersThe term "redneck" in the early 20th century was occasionally used in reference to American coal miner union members who wore red bandannas for solidarity.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Coal_miners_in_soda_fountain._Inland_Steel_Company %2C_Wheelwright_%5E1_%26_2_Mines%2C_Wheelwright%2C _Floyd_County%2C_Kentucky._-_NARA_-_541456.tif/lossy-page1-220px-Coal_miners_in_soda_fountain._Inland_Steel_Company %2C_Wheelwright_%5E1_%26_2_Mines%2C_Wheelwright%2C _Floyd_County%2C_Kentucky._-_NARA_-_541456.tif.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coal_miners_in_soda_fountain._Inland_Steel_Co mpany,_Wheelwright_%5E1_%26_2_Mines,_Wheelwright,_ Floyd_County,_Kentucky._-_NARA_-_541456.tif)

Coal miners in soda fountain, Kentucky, 1946


The United Mine Workers of America (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Mine_Workers_of_America) (UMW) and rival miners' unions used the red bandana, in order to build multiracial unions of white, black, and immigrant miners in the strike-ridden coalfields of northern and central Appalachia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachia) between <time>1912</time> and <time>1936</time>. The origin of redneck to mean "a union man" or "a striker" remains uncertain, but according to linguist David W. Maurer, the former definition of the word probably dates at least to the 1910s, if not earlier. The use of redneck to designate "a union member" was especially popular during the 1920s and 1930s in the coal-producing regions of West Virginia, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania.

I knew I had it in the neighborhood!:laugh:

[Drummond]

Yes I am an expert in common knowledge. You, however, got trolled by some leftie on some other site and now you've polluted this site with its effluence. Thank you.:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[DLT]

So excuse me for my lack of brilliance, but what does the word even mean? It makes no sense.

And that wasn't even clever. :laugh:

It's no different from anything the idiot left dredges up as a slur against the right (remember the term 'tea baggers'?) But THEY think it's brilliant and that's all that matters (to them).

The only reason they changed their name from liberals to progressives is due to the much deserved negative connotations the term liberals always received. The worst thing I can call lefties is lefties/leftists. No other slur or insult measures up, somehow...lol.

[DragonStryk72]

Care to explain where the fear is? And please don't say fear of them "growing" or becoming "mainstream", because then there should be hundreds or thousands of other words with phobia at the end. NO ONE IS SCARED of homosexuality or gay marriage - they simply disagree, and some vehemently - but that hardly means any of us/them are scared somehow. It's a BS word simply made up to vilify those who disagree.

People don't like Christianity, are they Christianaphobes?
Some don't like Israel - Israelaphobes?
Some disagree with drug use - drugaphobes?
Many disagree with guns - gunaphobes?
Many disagree with "common core" - commoncoraphobes?
Many disagree with illegal immigration - immigraphobes?

I can go on all day. Words have meanings, Slinging them together in order to make those who disagree look a certain way doesn't magically make them words.

Dude, there are people who are afraid of jello. jello. Fear of long words, fear of enclosed spaces, fear of open spaces, heights, fire water, bright lights, the dark, being alone, being in a crowded room, speaking in public, silence, etc.. Everything on Earth basically has someone who is afraid of it. For some people, your pug is a source of fear.

There are people who are, legitimately, afraid of gay people. I never said they were populous or mainstream. However, that's not the way we use the term. When it gets used, it's pretty much always a derogatory term for "They don't agree with gay marriage". It doesn't change the definition of the word, though, it's just being used incorrectly by and large. Fear of a thing exists for pretty much everything in human existence.

[Gunny]

It's no different from anything the idiot left dredges up as a slur against the right (remember the term 'tea baggers'?) But THEY think it's brilliant and that's all that matters (to them).

The only reason they changed their name from liberals to progressives is due to the much deserved negative connotations the term liberals always received. The worst thing I can call lefties is lefties/leftists. No other slur or insult measures up, somehow...lol.

Sure it's different. I'm not a lefty and was just poking at you for fun. :)

[Noir]

Just brilliant. So I guess a Buckeye is a resident of Ohio?

Might want to run back and do some more homework, junior.

If I have a team called "The Big Red Trucks" because I have one does that mean everyone on the team has a big red truck? Is it descriptive of who they are? Or is it just the name of a team they play for? How many people that play for Indiana are actually FROM Indiana since their scouts cross the US recruiting players? ANd you don't EVEn want to start on Texas teams because I personally don't know any Horned Frogs nor Sun Devils.

As I said, you're being dishonest, but now digging yourself deeper into your hole. The name of sports teams has NOTHING to do with properly using the English language in speech.

Hoosier /ˈhuːʒər/ (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English) is the official demonym (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonym) for a resident of the U.S. state (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state) of Indiana (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana). The origin of the term remains a matter of debate within the state,[1] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier#cite_note-whatIsAHoosier-1) but "Hoosier" was in general use by the 1840s,[2] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier#cite_note-H5-2) having been popularized by Richmond (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond,_Indiana) resident John Finley (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Finley)'s 1833[2] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier#cite_note-H5-2) poem "The Hoosier's Nest". Anyone born in Indiana or a resident at the time is considered to be a Hoosier.[3] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier#cite_note-hoosiersNest-3)Indiana adopted the nickname "The Hoosier State (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier_State)" more than 150 years ago.[1] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier#cite_note-whatIsAHoosier-1)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier

oh my :rolleyes:

[Gunny]

Hoosier /ˈhuːʒər/ (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English) is the official demonym (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonym) for a resident of the U.S. state (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state) of Indiana (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana). The origin of the term remains a matter of debate within the state,[1] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier#cite_note-whatIsAHoosier-1) but "Hoosier" was in general use by the 1840s,[2] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier#cite_note-H5-2) having been popularized by Richmond (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond,_Indiana) resident John Finley (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Finley)'s 1833[2] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier#cite_note-H5-2) poem "The Hoosier's Nest". Anyone born in Indiana or a resident at the time is considered to be a Hoosier.[3] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier#cite_note-hoosiersNest-3)Indiana adopted the nickname "The Hoosier State (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier_State)" more than 150 years ago.[1] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier#cite_note-whatIsAHoosier-1)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier

oh my :rolleyes:

You got a point here? I'm a Texan. A Marine. A man. A redneck. SO let's play "One of these things is not like the other". Those words all MEAN something. They are descriptive and define me as a person.

Your word doesn't mean jack shit. WTF is a "cuck"? Half a bird? Or can't y'all labelers just not spell "cock"? If you're going to call names, cut to the chase and quit trying to hide behind some concocted crap. You leftwingnuts call us on the right everything in the book. How desperate of you to need to make up some stupid sounding, waste of space new word.

[indago]

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4879093504/h5C04382E/
"CUCKSERVATIVE," A DEFINITION

Another raving lunatic...

[jimnyc]

Not sure if anyone has covered this, but I didn't want to spit it out earlier. Look up the word "cuckold", and even then the dictionary definition is generous. It's also used in porn, where the man is forced to watch his wife cheat on him.

This is how many liberals think. They demand toleration and then turn into scumbags when you turn your back.

[Gunny]

Not sure if anyone has covered this, but I didn't want to spit it out earlier. Look up the word "cuckold", and even then the dictionary definition is generous. It's also used in porn, where the man is forced to watch his wife cheat on him.

This is how many liberals think. They demand toleration and then turn into scumbags when you turn your back.

Is THAT where that comes from? Sheep calling others sheep. That's rich. Anyone that voted for O=blah-blah doesn't have the right to call ANYONE ANYTHING.

[jimnyc]

Is THAT where that comes from? Sheep calling others sheep. That's rich. Anyone that voted for O=blah-blah doesn't have the right to call ANYONE ANYTHING.

That's exactly where it came from, and that's why I've said all along that it was invented to make fun of folks. It's a mixture of words is all. Kind of like "libholes", since most liberals are assholes. :)

[DLT]

Not sure if anyone has covered this, but I didn't want to spit it out earlier. Look up the word "cuckold", and even then the dictionary definition is generous. It's also used in porn, where the man is forced to watch his wife cheat on him.

This is how many liberals think. They demand toleration and then turn into scumbags when you turn your back.

Of course. They always expect their opposition to live under vastly different rules, laws and criteria than they, as such special people, live under. Hypocrisy is their main character trait. Well...that and lying.

[jimnyc]

Of course. They always expect their opposition to live under vastly different rules, laws and criteria than they, as such special people, live under. Hypocrisy is their main character trait. Well...that and lying.

An example - gay folks. Liberals go BATSHIT NUTS over any lack of toleration of them. Say "fag" and they want your career ended. But, what do they say when Muslims are shooting gays, tossing them off of buildings for fun, hanging them, burning them alive, stoning them - ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. And why? Because their leaders haven't told them to complain about it. Most are far too stupid to think for themselves and need someone like Hillary or Schultz to tell them how to act and respond.

http://i.imgur.com/wz7OQ6w.jpg

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

An example - gay folks. Liberals go BATSHIT NUTS over any lack of toleration of them. Say "fag" and they want your career ended. But, what do they say when Muslims are shooting gays, tossing them off of buildings for fun, hanging them, burning them alive, stoning them - ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. And why? Because their leaders haven't told them to complain about it. Most are far too stupid to think for themselves and need someone like Hillary or Schultz to tell them how to act and respond.

http://i.imgur.com/wz7OQ6w.jpg

Jim, they do not speak out against muslims murdering gays because they(dems, leftists, libs) have an alliance with the muzzies against a common enemy-- US!
The three horsemen allied against us are -1. Globalists, 2. dem party(its scum), and 3. the stinking muzzies. Fact..

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Of course. They always expect their opposition to live under vastly different rules, laws and criteria than they, as such special people, live under. Hypocrisy is their main character trait. Well...that and lying.

And blithering insane arrogance!!--Tyr

[Abbey Marie]

Stupid terminology aside, that was one poorly-written article.