"Something's wrong": Military-report-altering extends up into Obama's inner circle

[Little-Acorn]

One of the most enduring habits of liberals, is that they lie. Constantly trying to pretend things are not as they are, liberals are obsessed with the fear that people might find out what they are actually doing, and what the results really are. So a great deal of their time is spent covering up, altering reports, and making public statements that have little connection with reality.

Some might say that's just politicians being politicians, trying as usual to pretend everyone does it. But when it's done in a war situation, it can get people killed, and entire nations destroyed.

Looks like the Obama administration has been caught doing it in a war situation, pressuring the military to issue reports saying ISIS is weak, disorganized, and ineffective... even as ISIS storms across the middle East, capturing city after city, massacring civilians and military alike, and destroying everything they can find. Reports that are too pessimistic, are sent back to the analysts for alterations, and the analysts are being pressured to make their reports conform to what the administration claims, instead of what the military is finding out the hard way.

Officials up to the very top of the CIA appear to be intimately involved with the push for altering reports and burying bad news.

Military analysts are in "full revolt", with the work environment being described as "Stalinist". Analysts who say what the administration doesn't want to hear, are urged to retire. Some are "agreeing to leave", as the report politely puts it.

In the meantime, ISIS has taken over large parts of the middle East while committing atrocities not seen since the worst days of Barbarossa and Holodomor.

Expect to hear from the left, replies that everything is fine, nothing to see here, move along folks. As usual.

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/somethings-wrong-isis-intelligence-scandal-132000086.html

'Something's wrong': The ISIS intelligence scandal just hit Obama's inner circle

Business Insider
By Pamela Engel
Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 12:11 PM EDT
2 hours ago

The scandal surrounding US intelligence reports on ISIS just hit President Barack Obama's inner circle.

James Clapper, America's top spy, is reportedly in "frequent and unusual contact" with the military officer who is suspected of allowing US reports on ISIS to be altered to fit the administration's official line, Spencer Ackerman at The Guardian reports.

"In communications, Clapper, who is far more senior than Grove, is said to tell Grove how the war looks from his vantage point, and question Grove about Central Command’s assessments," Ackerman writes.

"Such a situation could place inherent pressure on a subordinate, sources said."

Clapper, the director of national intelligence, reportedly talks to Army Brig. Gen. Steven Grove, the head of US Central Command's intelligence wing, almost every day, according to The Guardian.

A former intelligence official told the newspaper that this was "highly unusual."

This report comes amid a Pentagon investigation into accusations that top military officials have pressured analysts into conforming their reports to the Obama administration's narrative of the fight against ISIS (also known as Islamic State, ISIL, and Daesh).

More than 50 intelligence analysts at Centcom, the Pentagon agency covering security interests in nations throughout the Middle East and Central Asia, have supported a formal, written complaint sent the Defense Department alleging that senior intelligence officers have insisted on changing ISIS reports to make them reflect more positively on US efforts in the region, The Daily Beast reported this week.

In another story last month, sources told The Daily Beast that senior military and intelligence officials pushed analysts to portray ISIS "as weaker than the analysts believe it actually is."

Crucial parts of intelligence reports have reportedly been taken out, analysts say they have been subject to an environment in which they do not feel able to give a candid assessment of the situation in Iraq and Syria, and sometimes reports seen as being too negative have been sent back to analysts, according to the complaints.

With Clapper so closely communicating with officials who have been implicated in the scandal, questions will arise about how much Obama — who once suggested that ISIS was a "jayvee team" wearing Lakers uniforms — knew about any possible intelligence altering.

One former defense official told The Guardian that Clapper could "be manipulative," adding that "something's wrong."

Another source said Obama officials were not open to "the narrative that ISIS is winning."

Others said it was doubtful that Clapper gave any direct orders to change intelligence reports.

Centcom analysts are now in a full "revolt," according to The Daily Beast. The work environment there has reportedly gotten so bad that it has been described as "Stalinist." One source alleges that when analysts brought concerns to Centcom leadership, they were urged to retire, and some agreed to leave.

Some analysts seem to think Centcom leaders are trying to further their career advancement by telling the administration what it wants to hear, according to The Daily Beast's sources.

These allegations could have serious implications for the US intelligence community and the Obama administration.

"The politicization of intelligence products would be a major issue, and these allegations need to be thoroughly investigated," Devin Nunes, the chair of the House intelligence committee, told Business Insider.

"The intelligence committee will take all appropriate action to ensure our nation's policymakers receive unbiased analysis from the Intelligence Community."

Despite assertions by Obama administration officials that ISIS is losing, many counterterrorism analysts say the opposite is true.

[NightTrain]

Fits with Bambam's narrative that ISIS is JV Squad caliber. Naturally the official word will be modified to fit what he thinks.


But the fact that they've gained so much territory and created such havok in the whole region means that they're not quite as amateur as Obama would have everyone believe. While ISIS is a bunch of scrubs, even scrubs can be dangerous when the fool at the top of the opposing force hasn't any idea as to what to do.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

One of the most enduring habits of liberals, is that they lie. Constantly trying to pretend things are not as they are, liberals are obsessed with the fear that people might find out what they are actually doing, and what the results really are. So a great deal of their time is spent covering up, altering reports, and making public statements that have little connection with reality.

Some might say that's just politicians being politicians, trying as usual to pretend everyone does it. But when it's done in a war situation, it can get people killed, and entire nations destroyed.

Looks like the Obama administration has been caught doing it in a war situation, pressuring the military to issue reports saying ISIS is weak, disorganized, and ineffective... even as ISIS storms across the middle East, capturing city after city, massacring civilians and military alike, and destroying everything they can find. Reports that are too pessimistic, are sent back to the analysts for alterations, and the analysts are being pressured to make their reports conform to what the administration claims, instead of what the military is finding out the hard way.

Officials up to the very top of the CIA appear to be intimately involved with the push for altering reports and burying bad news.

Military analysts are in "full revolt", with the work environment being described as "Stalinist". Analysts who say what the administration doesn't want to hear, are urged to retire. Some are "agreeing to leave", as the report politely puts it.

In the meantime, ISIS has taken over large parts of the middle East while committing atrocities not seen since the worst days of Barbarossa and Holodomor.

Expect to hear from the left, replies that everything is fine, nothing to see here, move along folks. As usual.

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/somethings-wrong-isis-intelligence-scandal-132000086.html

'Something's wrong': The ISIS intelligence scandal just hit Obama's inner circle

Business Insider
By Pamela Engel
Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 12:11 PM EDT
2 hours ago

The scandal surrounding US intelligence reports on ISIS just hit President Barack Obama's inner circle.

James Clapper, America's top spy, is reportedly in "frequent and unusual contact" with the military officer who is suspected of allowing US reports on ISIS to be altered to fit the administration's official line, Spencer Ackerman at The Guardian reports.

"In communications, Clapper, who is far more senior than Grove, is said to tell Grove how the war looks from his vantage point, and question Grove about Central Command’s assessments," Ackerman writes.

"Such a situation could place inherent pressure on a subordinate, sources said."

Clapper, the director of national intelligence, reportedly talks to Army Brig. Gen. Steven Grove, the head of US Central Command's intelligence wing, almost every day, according to The Guardian.

A former intelligence official told the newspaper that this was "highly unusual."

This report comes amid a Pentagon investigation into accusations that top military officials have pressured analysts into conforming their reports to the Obama administration's narrative of the fight against ISIS (also known as Islamic State, ISIL, and Daesh).

More than 50 intelligence analysts at Centcom, the Pentagon agency covering security interests in nations throughout the Middle East and Central Asia, have supported a formal, written complaint sent the Defense Department alleging that senior intelligence officers have insisted on changing ISIS reports to make them reflect more positively on US efforts in the region, The Daily Beast reported this week.

In another story last month, sources told The Daily Beast that senior military and intelligence officials pushed analysts to portray ISIS "as weaker than the analysts believe it actually is."

Crucial parts of intelligence reports have reportedly been taken out, analysts say they have been subject to an environment in which they do not feel able to give a candid assessment of the situation in Iraq and Syria, and sometimes reports seen as being too negative have been sent back to analysts, according to the complaints.

With Clapper so closely communicating with officials who have been implicated in the scandal, questions will arise about how much Obama — who once suggested that ISIS was a "jayvee team" wearing Lakers uniforms — knew about any possible intelligence altering.

One former defense official told The Guardian that Clapper could "be manipulative," adding that "something's wrong."

Another source said Obama officials were not open to "the narrative that ISIS is winning."

Others said it was doubtful that Clapper gave any direct orders to change intelligence reports.

Centcom analysts are now in a full "revolt," according to The Daily Beast. The work environment there has reportedly gotten so bad that it has been described as "Stalinist." One source alleges that when analysts brought concerns to Centcom leadership, they were urged to retire, and some agreed to leave.

Some analysts seem to think Centcom leaders are trying to further their career advancement by telling the administration what it wants to hear, according to The Daily Beast's sources.

These allegations could have serious implications for the US intelligence community and the Obama administration.

"The politicization of intelligence products would be a major issue, and these allegations need to be thoroughly investigated," Devin Nunes, the chair of the House intelligence committee, told Business Insider.

"The intelligence committee will take all appropriate action to ensure our nation's policymakers receive unbiased analysis from the Intelligence Community."

Despite assertions by Obama administration officials that ISIS is losing, many counterterrorism analysts say the opposite is true.

Lies, bigger lies and more lies! Why should we be shocked? That is the obama standard operating procedure.
It is the leftist, lying muslim way.
This scum has gotten way with deliberately destroying this nation and engaging in open treason on a daily basis, so why should anybody be shocked now that he gives Iran--150 billion dollars and clear sailing to hurry up to gets its nukes to use on Israel first , then us later?
SWEET JUSTICE must be brought to this tyrant IMHO.--Tyr

[red state]

Lies, bigger lies and more lies! Why should we be shocked? That is the obama standard operating procedure.
It is the leftist, lying muslim way.
This scum has gotten way with deliberately destroying this nation and engaging in open treason on a daily basis, so why should anybody be shocked now that he gives Iran--150 billion dollars and clear sailing to hurry up to gets its nukes to use on Israel first , then us later?
SWEET JUSTICE must be brought to this tyrant IMHO.--Tyr

Tyr, that "sweet justice" may also be the verdict that has been handed or will be handed down to America....many of us still cling to a memory of what this Nation once was and try to forget, OR ARE UNAWARE of what she truly is at present. We live in extremely interesting YET insane times and not even the most creative writer could have ever devised such a plot. I don't know if it is too late, if we are under judgement already, await some glorious revival (awakening for those who are not spiritually guided) or are under the Jefferson motto that a good revolution is needed from time to time. We shall see....I'm still shocked that we have allowed so much in such a short period of time and am PERSONALLY in no way excited or looking forward to voting in 2016. Nothing seems to help so I sit and wait for the NEXT shot that is heard around the world.

~Red

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Tyr, that "sweet justice" may also be the verdict that has been handed or will be handed down to America....many of us still cling to a memory of what this Nation once was and try to forget, OR ARE UNAWARE of what she truly is at present. We live in extremely interesting YET insane times and not even the most creative writer could have ever devised such a plot. I don't know if it is too late, if we are under judgement already, await some glorious revival (awakening for those who are not spiritually guided) or are under the Jefferson motto that a good revolution is needed from time to time. We shall see....I'm still shocked that we have allowed so much in such a short period of time and am PERSONALLY in no way excited or looking forward to voting in 2016. Nothing seems to help so I sit and wait for the NEXT shot that is heard around the world.

~Red

I AGREE..
And if it is divine justice being rendered, then nothing in this Universe can stop it.
We as a nation are now being led by a madman, a liar, a traitor and a muslim-in-hiding.. Fact.

How much more carnage and misery will this bastard wreck upon this nation before he is replaced???
And--will this piece of shit muslim bastard ever be brought to justice for his treason????

I hope that I live long enough to slap a few liberal idiots on their asses for the insanity and destruction they helped him heap upon this nation and my children /grandchildren.

Should that day ever come, it will take all my willpower not to just go ahead and "break 'em like damn twigs"..
I view them as vermin already...-Tyr

[sundaydriver]

Sitting on a bookshelf behind me is a book I read 40 years ago named "The First Casualty" written by Phillip Knightly. It's the history of how our governments have manipulated information about war & conflicts for generations via documents and misinformation for the benefit of government leaders agenda & interests that would not necessarily look good in the eyes of the public. It isn't conspiracy or a hit book, but a well documented look at how it is done via censorship, collusion, and suppression. An unfortunate tactic that is nothing new.

The First Causality of War is Truth...Hiram W. Johnson

[indago]

Sitting on a bookshelf behind me is a book I read 40 years ago named "The First Casualty" written by Phillip Knightly. It's the history of how our governments have manipulated information about war & conflicts for generations via documents and misinformation for the benefit of government leaders agenda & interests that would not necessarily look good in the eyes of the public. It isn't conspiracy or a hit book, but a well documented look at how it is done via censorship, collusion, and suppression. An unfortunate tactic that is nothing new.

The First Causality of War is Truth...Hiram W. Johnson

Another good read is The Politics of War by Walter Karp. Quite similar...

[DLT]

One of the most enduring habits of liberals, is that they lie. Constantly trying to pretend things are not as they are, liberals are obsessed with the fear that people might find out what they are actually doing, and what the results really are. So a great deal of their time is spent covering up, altering reports, and making public statements that have little connection with reality.

Some might say that's just politicians being politicians, trying as usual to pretend everyone does it. But when it's done in a war situation, it can get people killed, and entire nations destroyed.

Looks like the Obama administration has been caught doing it in a war situation, pressuring the military to issue reports saying ISIS is weak, disorganized, and ineffective... even as ISIS storms across the middle East, capturing city after city, massacring civilians and military alike, and destroying everything they can find. Reports that are too pessimistic, are sent back to the analysts for alterations, and the analysts are being pressured to make their reports conform to what the administration claims, instead of what the military is finding out the hard way.

Officials up to the very top of the CIA appear to be intimately involved with the push for altering reports and burying bad news.

Military analysts are in "full revolt", with the work environment being described as "Stalinist". Analysts who say what the administration doesn't want to hear, are urged to retire. Some are "agreeing to leave", as the report politely puts it.

In the meantime, ISIS has taken over large parts of the middle East while committing atrocities not seen since the worst days of Barbarossa and Holodomor.

Expect to hear from the left, replies that everything is fine, nothing to see here, move along folks. As usual.

----------------------------------------------------------

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/somethings-wrong-isis-intelligence-scandal-132000086.html

'Something's wrong': The ISIS intelligence scandal just hit Obama's inner circle

Business Insider
By Pamela Engel
Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 12:11 PM EDT
2 hours ago

The scandal surrounding US intelligence reports on ISIS just hit President Barack Obama's inner circle.

James Clapper, America's top spy, is reportedly in "frequent and unusual contact" with the military officer who is suspected of allowing US reports on ISIS to be altered to fit the administration's official line, Spencer Ackerman at The Guardian reports.

"In communications, Clapper, who is far more senior than Grove, is said to tell Grove how the war looks from his vantage point, and question Grove about Central Command’s assessments," Ackerman writes.

"Such a situation could place inherent pressure on a subordinate, sources said."

Clapper, the director of national intelligence, reportedly talks to Army Brig. Gen. Steven Grove, the head of US Central Command's intelligence wing, almost every day, according to The Guardian.

A former intelligence official told the newspaper that this was "highly unusual."

This report comes amid a Pentagon investigation into accusations that top military officials have pressured analysts into conforming their reports to the Obama administration's narrative of the fight against ISIS (also known as Islamic State, ISIL, and Daesh).

More than 50 intelligence analysts at Centcom, the Pentagon agency covering security interests in nations throughout the Middle East and Central Asia, have supported a formal, written complaint sent the Defense Department alleging that senior intelligence officers have insisted on changing ISIS reports to make them reflect more positively on US efforts in the region, The Daily Beast reported this week.

In another story last month, sources told The Daily Beast that senior military and intelligence officials pushed analysts to portray ISIS "as weaker than the analysts believe it actually is."

Crucial parts of intelligence reports have reportedly been taken out, analysts say they have been subject to an environment in which they do not feel able to give a candid assessment of the situation in Iraq and Syria, and sometimes reports seen as being too negative have been sent back to analysts, according to the complaints.

With Clapper so closely communicating with officials who have been implicated in the scandal, questions will arise about how much Obama — who once suggested that ISIS was a "jayvee team" wearing Lakers uniforms — knew about any possible intelligence altering.

One former defense official told The Guardian that Clapper could "be manipulative," adding that "something's wrong."

Another source said Obama officials were not open to "the narrative that ISIS is winning."

Others said it was doubtful that Clapper gave any direct orders to change intelligence reports.

Centcom analysts are now in a full "revolt," according to The Daily Beast. The work environment there has reportedly gotten so bad that it has been described as "Stalinist." One source alleges that when analysts brought concerns to Centcom leadership, they were urged to retire, and some agreed to leave.

Some analysts seem to think Centcom leaders are trying to further their career advancement by telling the administration what it wants to hear, according to The Daily Beast's sources.

These allegations could have serious implications for the US intelligence community and the Obama administration.

"The politicization of intelligence products would be a major issue, and these allegations need to be thoroughly investigated," Devin Nunes, the chair of the House intelligence committee, told Business Insider.

"The intelligence committee will take all appropriate action to ensure our nation's policymakers receive unbiased analysis from the Intelligence Community."

Despite assertions by Obama administration officials that ISIS is losing, many counterterrorism analysts say the opposite is true.

"Something is wrong" is a vast understatement. What is wrong is....the moronic voters in America have elected an enemy of the state to the White House. All due to political correctness and successful Marxist propaganda pushed by the US media. Where will it end?

Well, if I recall correctly....the last time a US president tampered negatively with our intelligence agency reporting abilities (the Clinton/Gorelick wall)..we got 9/11. Next time ...coming real soon, no doubt (no waiting for ten years here)....it will be a multi-city nuking.

Since this president already has tons of blood on his hands, are we really going to wait around another year and a half for him to kill us all? Really? Perhaps it's pitchfork time....(way past time)...eh?

[DLT]

Lies, bigger lies and more lies! Why should we be shocked? That is the obama standard operating procedure.
It is the leftist, lying muslim way.
This scum has gotten way with deliberately destroying this nation and engaging in open treason on a daily basis, so why should anybody be shocked now that he gives Iran--150 billion dollars and clear sailing to hurry up to gets its nukes to use on Israel first , then us later?
SWEET JUSTICE must be brought to this tyrant IMHO.--Tyr

It won't be later. It will be a simultaneous strike. They'll figure we'll be too busy scampering to save Israel to save ourselves...and will be caught with our pants down (Obama's plan all along, in fact). And naturally, Obama will manage to be out of the country, safely, when it all goes down (literally).

[Gunny]

Just wonder why anything thinks this is new? The government has rigged its reports since it came into being.

[Gunny]

It won't be later. It will be a simultaneous strike. They'll figure we'll be too busy scampering to save Israel to save ourselves...and will be caught with our pants down (Obama's plan all along, in fact). And naturally, Obama will manage to be out of the country, safely, when it all goes down (literally).

I don't see that. Only WE are dumb enough to go for that simultaneous crap. What people don't or won't realize about these Middle Easterners is they've been around, patiently waiting for centuries. They don't measure time the way we do. We want stuff NOW. We always want to win the battle. They want to win the war, no matter how long it takes.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I don't see that. Only WE are dumb enough to go for that simultaneous crap. What people don't or won't realize about these Middle Easterners is they've been around, patiently waiting for centuries. They don't measure time the way we do. We want stuff NOW. We always want to win the battle. They want to win the war, no matter how long it takes.

They plan on our breeding us and outsmarting us by turning us against ourselves--currently they are succeeding beyond their wildest dreams at both!!
And that thanks to their faithful allies the dems/libs/leftists and the globalists. -Tyr

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I don't see that. Only WE are dumb enough to go for that simultaneous crap. What people don't or won't realize about these Middle Easterners is they've been around, patiently waiting for centuries. They don't measure time the way we do. We want stuff NOW. We always want to win the battle. They want to win the war, no matter how long it takes.

They plan on out breeding us and outsmarting us by turning us against ourselves--currently they are succeeding beyond their wildest dreams at both!!
And that thanks to their faithful allies the dems/libs/leftists and the globalists. -Tyr

[red state]

I AGREE..
And if it is divine justice being rendered, then nothing in this Universe can stop it.
We as a nation are now being led by a madman, a liar, a traitor and a muslim-in-hiding.. Fact.

How much more carnage and misery will this bastard wreck upon this nation before he is replaced???
And--will this piece of shit muslim bastard ever be brought to justice for his treason????

I hope that I live long enough to slap a few liberal idiots on their asses for the insanity and destruction they helped him heap upon this nation and my children /grandchildren.

Should that day ever come, it will take all my willpower not to just go ahead and "break 'em like damn twigs"..
I view them as vermin already...-Tyr

Of course you agree.....great minds think alike. I also agree that THEY are outdoing us within the propagation process and one only need to look at the European Nations to confirm this where THEY out produce Europeans who either can't afford more than one offspring or simply wish to focus on only one child (selfishly). Bottom line is that THEY benefit greatly from our stupidity and often leech off of our good nature (all while having 7-8 children.....much like we did just the last century). My grandfather had seven kids.....my folks and I had only three children. Today...many parents (especially liberal families) have only ONE child. In a way that is a good thing because THEY, like muSLUMS are our #1 threat to Freedom, prosperity and sanity. I despise all enemies of the USA!!!

[Gunny]

They plan on out breeding us and outsmarting us by turning us against ourselves--currently they are succeeding beyond their wildest dreams at both!!
And that thanks to their faithful allies the dems/libs/leftists and the globalists. -Tyr

Yes and no. I agree on the turning us against ourselves. Been doing it forever. It's a deflection from watching what they are doing. They invent all kinds of stupid crap and ride it to death. Racism. Sexism. Political correctness. They just move from one game to the next. They keep the infighting going on while they keep business as usual going on. It's a typical military tactic and it works. Keep everyone's eyes off the REAL action.

[aboutime]

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