Jeb Bush

[Kathianne]

Who is arguing that America is safer since 2009?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/12/jeb-bush-says-clinton-stood-by-amid-rise-isis/


Jeb Bush says Clinton 'stood by' amid rise of ISIS<time itemprop="datePublished" pubdate="" datetime="2015-08-12T02:27-04:00" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 3px; padding: 0px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(153, 153, 153); line-height: 1.5; display: inline-block; vertical-align: top; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; background: 0px 0px;">Published August 12, 2015</time>Associated Pre (http://www.ap.org/)ss


SIMI VALLEY, Calif. – Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush said Tuesday the U.S. may need to send more ground troops into Iraq to defeat Islamic State (ISIS) militants, but he stopped short of saying how many as he outlined his strategy for combating a threat that's "spreading like a pandemic."


In the first major foreign policy speech of his White House bid, Bush sharply criticized Hillary Clinton's tenure as secretary of state and accused the Democratic front-runner and President Barack Obama of allowing the militant group to take hold in the Middle East.


"Who can seriously argue that America and our friends are safer today than in 2009, when the president and Secretary Clinton - the storied 'team of rivals' - took office?" Bush said. "So eager to be the history-makers, they failed to be the peacemakers."


Along with saying he would potentially boost the number of U.S. troops in Iraq, where roughly 3,500 American military trainers and advisers are already helping Iraqi forces fight ISIS, Bush offered a broad look at how he would take on the group in neighboring Syria — which Bush and Middle East experts agree is a far more complicated task.
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[Kathianne]

Related and lots of links I don't have to search for:

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/212413/


AUGUST 12, 2015
HE’S ON SOLID GROUND HERE: Jeb Bush faults Hillary Clinton for ‘premature’ Iraq withdrawal. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/jeb-bush-faults-hillary-clinton-for-premature-iraq-withdrawal/2015/08/11/ffa3e2a6-4042-11e5-9561-4b3dc93e3b9a_story.html)

On Tuesday night, Jeb Bush, who is seeking the Republican presidential nomination, attacked President Obama and former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton for their “premature” decision to withdraw U.S. forces from Iraq — a move he describes as a “fatal error.”


“It was a case of blind haste to get out, and to call the tragic consequences somebody else’s problem,” he said. “Rushing away from danger can be every bit as unwise as rushing into danger, and the costs have been grievous.”


That’s absolutely right. In fact, I think I’ll repeat this post (http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/211936/) again:


BOB WOODWARD: Bush Didn’t Lie About WMD, And Obama Sure Screwed Up Iraq In 2011. (http://althouse.blogspot.com/2015/05/bob-woodward-bush-did-not-lie-about-wmd.html)



[Y]ou certainly can make a persuasive argument it was a mistake. But there is a time that line going along that Bush and the other people lied about this. I spent 18 months looking at how Bush decided to invade Iraq. And lots of mistakes, but it was Bush telling George Tenet, the CIA director, don’t let anyone stretch the case on WMD. And he was the one who was skeptical. And if you try to summarize why we went into Iraq, it was momentum. The war plan kept getting better and easier, and finally at the end, people were saying, hey, look, it will only take a week or two. And early on it looked like it was going to take a year or 18 months. And so Bush pulled the trigger. A mistake certainly can be argued, and there is an abundance of evidence. But there was no lying in this that I could find.


Plus:



Woodward was also asked if it was a mistake to withdraw in 2011. Wallace points out that Obama has said that he tried to negotiate a status of forces agreement but did not succeed, but “A lot of people think he really didn’t want to keep any troops there.” Woodward agrees that Obama didn’t want to keep troops there and elaborates:



Look, Obama does not like war. But as you look back on this, the argument from the military was, let’s keep 10,000, 15,000 troops there as an insurance policy. And we all know insurance policies make sense. We have 30,000 troops or more in South Korea still 65 years or so after the war. When you are a superpower, you have to buy these insurance policies. And he didn’t in this case. I don’t think you can say everything is because of that decision, but clearly a factor.


We had some woeful laughs about the insurance policies metaphor. Everyone knows they make sense, but it’s still hard to get people to buy them. They want to think things might just work out, so why pay for the insurance? It’s the old “young invincibles” problem that underlies Obamcare.


Obama blew it in Iraq, which is in chaos, and in Syria, which is in chaos, and in Libya, which is in chaos. A little history:



As late as 2010, things were going so well in Iraq that Obama and Biden were bragging. (http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/193063/) Now, after Obama’s politically-motivated pullout and disengagement, the whole thing’s fallen apart. This is near-criminal neglect and incompetence, and an awful lot of people will pay a steep price for the Obama Administration’s fecklessness.


Related: National Journal: The World Will Blame Obama If Iraq Falls. (http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/the-world-will-blame-president-obama-if-iraq-falls-20140807)


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Related: What Kind Of Iraq Did Obama Inherit? (http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2014/06/19/what-kind-of-iraq-did-obama-inherit/)


Plus, I’m just going to keep running this video of what the Democrats, including Harry Reid and Hillary Clinton, were saying on Iraq (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5p-qIq32m8) before the invasion:


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Because I expect a lot of revisionist history over the next few months.


Plus: 2008 Flashback: Obama Says Preventing Genocide Not A Reason To Stay In Iraq. (http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19862711/ns/politics-decision_08/t/obama-dont-stay-iraq-over-genocide/#.U-TS4Ej-WmE) He was warned. He didn’t care.


And who can forget this?
<iframe id="twitter-widget-1" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" class="twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered" allowfullscreen="" title="Twitter Tweet" height="184" style="border-style: none; border-width: initial; max-width: 100%; min-width: 220px; margin: 10px 0px; padding: 0px; display: block; position: static; visibility: visible; width: 500px;"></iframe>Yes, I keep repeating this stuff. Because it bears repeating. In Iraq, Obama took a war that we had won at a considerable expense in lives and treasure, and threw it away for the callowest of political reasons. In Syria and Libya, he involved us in wars of choice without Congressional authorization, and proceeded to hand victories to the Islamists. Obama’s policy here has been a debacle of the first order, and the press wants to talk about Bush as a way of protecting him. Whenever you see anyone in the media bringing up 2003, you will know that they are serving as palace guard, not as press.



Related: Obama’s Betrayal Of The Iraqis. (http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/207762/)

[Black Diamond]

Obama would have used diplomacy with Tojo....

[Perianne]

Obama would have used diplomacy with Tojo....


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Tojo_Yamamoto.jpg

[Kathianne]

Jeb Bush is once again addressing Iraq:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/08/13/jeb-bush-on-iraq-defends-his-brother-criticizes-obama/


DAVENPORT, Iowa – Jeb Bush tried a move that encapsulates his foreign policy pickle: He simultaneously defended the prosecution of the Iraq war when his brother,George W. Bush (http://topics.wsj.com/person/B/george,-bush/5369), was commander in chief, and he criticized President Barack Obama (http://topics.wsj.com/person/O/barack,-obama/4328)’s performance in ending it.

“I’ll tell you, taking out Saddam Hussein turned out to be a pretty good deal,” the former Florida governor said.

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[Black Diamond]

This is the guy who needs to start "banging his shoe". He has the experience I am looking for but if he keeps the monotone up, he will get swept in the first four primaries. Sure he is the vegas favorite but so was Hillary in 2007. Is it risky for him to go wild, sure. But he may not have a choice.

[Kathianne]

This is the guy who needs to start "banging his shoe". He has the experience I am looking for but if he keeps the monotone up, he will get swept in the first four primaries. Sure he is the vegas favorite but so was Hillary in 2007. Is it risky for him to go wild, sure. But he may not have a choice.

Jeb may or may not be the 'answer' if Trump falters. He's got a lot of baggage, but unlike Hillary it's mostly relations, (immigration and common core being the exceptions.) His favorables and unfavorables are very good. Like all else, 'time will tell.'

[Kathianne]

Now he's really digging:

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/26/jeb-hey-lets-do-free-tuition-and-pay-back-students-who-dont-graduate-in-four-years/


Jeb: Hey let’s do “free tuition” and pay back students who don’t graduate in four yearsPOSTED AT 6:41 PM ON AUGUST 26, 2015 BY TAYLOR MILLARD

Jeb Bush has a fantastically awful idea when it comes to college education. He thinks (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/251850-bush-embraces-same-tuition-free-program-as-obama) community college students should get “free” tuition for two years. If that’s sounds familiar, it’s because it’s the exact same thing (http://thehill.com/policy/finance/229862-obama-outlines-economic-agenda-ahead-of-sotu) President Barack Obama proposed in January. Which shows how completely hypocritical Bush is because he came out against (http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/04/17/jeb-bush-new-hampshire-conservative/) Obama’s plan in January. Oh, but Bush’s plan gets even more #headdesk inducing. He wants universities to PAY BACK students who don’t graduate in four years.



If kids can’t graduate with a four-year degree in four years, there ought to be some payback to their families or to them, or their got to be some support for the loans they’ve taken out.

This is so fiscally irresponsible and reprehensible, it’s not even funny. For one, it would cause major federal budget issues because the government has increasingly gotten involved in higher education over the last 50 years. Cato Institute wrote (http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/cato-handbook-policymakers/2009/9/hb111-21.pdf) in 2009 how higher education federal spending hit $36.6B, not counting the $31.4B in research grants. College Raptor’s guide (https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-guide/financial-aid/where-does-financial-aid-come-from/) to financial aid shows the federal government covers 58% of student aid nationwide. This includes (https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/loans)up to $5500 in Perkins Loans and up to $12,500 in Direct Subsidized Loans and Direct Unsubsidized Loans for undergrad students. This doesn’t count (https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/grants-scholarships) the Pell Grants or Supplemental Education Opportunity Grants available either. So it’s possible, Bush’s plan could end up making the federal government pay TWICE in both loans and the payback, because the universities sure aren’t going to use athletics fees to pay students back.


There’s also the problem of how student loans actually make college more expensive. Ex-Secretary of Education William Bennett said in 1987 colleges and universities are raising rates because the Federal loan subsidies help “cushion the increase.” The National Association of College and University Business Officers released (http://www.nacubo.org/Business_and_Policy_Areas/Student_Financial_Services/Student_Financial_Services_News/Results_Are_In_The_2014_NACUBO_Tuition_Discounting _Study.html) a study on Tuesday saying around 90% of freshmen are on financial aid. NACUBO President and CEO John Walda said private colleges and universities are increasing discounts and doing more grant money to students. This goes along with a Federal Reserve Bank of New York study (http://www.newyorkfed.org/research/staff_reports/sr733.pdf) in July noting the connection between student loans and the rise of college tuition. It found universities increased tuition around 65% due to changes in the federal loan program (emphasis mine).

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[Black Diamond]

Now he's really digging:

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/26/jeb-hey-lets-do-free-tuition-and-pay-back-students-who-dont-graduate-in-four-years/

Ohhhh. Boy. :bang3:

[gabosaurus]

Jeb should be known as "The Flip-Flop Man." Each day, Jeb has a different take on the same issues!

[tailfins]

His nickname is spelled with FOUR characters: Jeb! Get it right. No last name is needed. He's Jeb! after all.


Jeb may or may not be the 'answer' if Trump falters. He's got a lot of baggage, but unlike Hillary it's mostly relations, (immigration and common core being the exceptions.) His favorables and unfavorables are very good. Like all else, 'time will tell.'

Jeb! has a lot of the same donors as Clinton.

[NightTrain]

Jeb may or may not be the 'answer' if Trump falters. He's got a lot of baggage, but unlike Hillary it's mostly relations, (immigration and common core being the exceptions.) His favorables and unfavorables are very good. Like all else, 'time will tell.'


If Trump falters, I think our man will be Cruz... but I think the race will be a lot tighter if that happens.


I don't think Jeb has any kind of decent chance at this point.

[Gunny]

Jeb should be known as "The Flip-Flop Man." Each day, Jeb has a different take on the same issues!

And Hillary should be known as felon.

[gabosaurus]

And Hillary should be known as felon.

Not that this thread has anything to do with Hillary. :rolleyes:

[Black Diamond]

Not that this thread has anything to do with Hillary. :rolleyes:

Oh but Ann Coulter has everything to do with Megyn Kelly.

[Gunny]

Not that this thread has anything to do with Hillary. :rolleyes:

Sure. And not like your sheeple ass won't show up and vote for her. Just vote "D" for "duh-her-de-her".

YOU startwd with the snide comments so I'll finish. Jeb Bush far surpasses anything you leftwing morons have to offer. ANY person running on the right far surpasses a known liar and shyster lawyer that likes to redefine what "is" is or a crazy old guy that loves to hug your wife's boobs.

So you have no place in this commentary as you are unworthy. Feel free to run back to your Nazi party and tell them I said so. The difference between me and that fol Trump is I sling insults where warranted, not just at anyone and anything.

Y'all should turn in the words "Democrat" and "liberal" as you are worthy of neither. Progressive, do as I say not as I do thug doesn't come from the definition of either.