UN: Jail Parents Who Spank Their Children

[Jeff]

The U.N. thinks they have the right to tell the UK that spanking their children is wrong and they want to outlaw it, :eek: where in the hell do they get the idea that they can tell them what to do, ooo yea the idiot in charge Obama. At least here in GA spanking a child is perfectly legal, beating a child isn't, and yes I have always believed a smack on the butt ( embarrassed a child more than hurt ) works miracles, my kids are all past that point now but when they where younger yup I gave it to them when ever they needed it. And now ( the younger boys anyway, ages 12 and 13, at the end of next month they will be 13 and 14 ) don't ever need me to raise my hand, a simple glare across the room lets them know it's done, I am not listening and they are done talking. I don't believe in beating a child but spankings are a part of good parenting, I love the time outs, " yea little Johnny you go to your room with your computer and Nintendo and you stay there for a 1/2 hour" :laugh: yea like kids don't enjoy that, hell I remember my Dad pulling that belt off and it was no Daddy no Daddy before he ever got in the room, nope we very rarely made the same mistake twice. And in all honesty it didn't hurt, it was the thought, the fear you built up, but it taught us, but who in the hell is the UN to decide who any of us should raise our kids, yes there is a law they had sent to the USA last year on the very subject.

I remember a teacher telling me I shouldn't spank my son, I told him then for now on when my kid acts out in school don't call me or I was going to come to school and spank him in front of the class, yup he dummy upped quickly, both of my boys are very active in sports ( with the school and outside leagues ) and both are pretty much straight A students, although the older one struggled in one class last year keeping the A. So apparently I did something right, God knows they didn't get there good habits of studying from me I am ashamed to say, but they did learn how to work hard from me and they do so in everything they do.



Under the guise of advancing what the United Nationscharacterizes as “human rights,” (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/item/19851-united-nations-exploits-pseudo-human-rights-to-attack-u-s) the UN “Human Rights Committee” released a report urging U.K. authorities (http://www.thenewamerican.com/tbinternet.ohchr.org/Treaties/CCPR/Shared%20Documents/GBR/CCPR_C_GBR_CO_7_21192_E.doc) to prosecute parents who smack or spank their children — even when used as a disciplinary tool. The UN report continued, advocating that the government launch a tax-funded propaganda campaign against corporal punishment and parents who choose to use it in disciplining their children, highlighting the alleged “harmful effects.” A broad list of other demands — more abortion, more UN agreements, and more censorship, among others — was also provided by the UN’s “human rights” bureaucracy in its report on the United Kingdom.


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[Noir]

How dare they, adults should be able to hit children whenever they want.

[Jeff]

How dare they, adults should be able to hit children whenever they want.

We finally agree :rolleyes: Parents should decide how they wish to raise their children, a smack on the butt is hardly beating a child, or my favorite was to slap their hand and tell them no and explain why, and it has worked for years and years, but yea now the liberals say it is wrong and want time outs and all that trash, yup it's working great, I see all the killings, crime rates and the world just basically slipping into a pit, yup it sure is a good idea. :rolleyes:

[Noir]

We finally agree :rolleyes: Parents should decide how they wish to raise their children, a smack on the butt is hardly beating a child, or my favorite was to slap their hand and tell them no and explain why, and it has worked for years and years, but yea now the liberals say it is wrong and want time outs and all that trash, yup it's working great, I see all the killings, crime rates and the world just basically slipping into a pit, yup it sure is a good idea. :rolleyes:

Yeah i mean i was never hit as a child and i'm just itching to commit some murders.

[Kathianne]

We finally agree :rolleyes: Parents should decide how they wish to raise their children, a smack on the butt is hardly beating a child, or my favorite was to slap their hand and tell them no and explain why, and it has worked for years and years, but yea now the liberals say it is wrong and want time outs and all that trash, yup it's working great, I see all the killings, crime rates and the world just basically slipping into a pit, yup it sure is a good idea. :rolleyes:

The government or UN has 0 right to tell parents how to discipline or what to all their children to eat or where to go. Yes, the state may step in for abuse/neglect which includes those that go beyond discipline or rearing children. We may disagree on corporal punishment or even feeding, but those are opinions, not the government.

[Perianne]

Yeah i mean i was never hit as a child and i'm just itching to commit some murders.

Noir, I believe you are a good person.

[Jeff]

Yeah i mean i was never hit as a child and i'm just itching to commit some murders.

I was spanked as a child and yea I am itching to commit murders, that is about as lame as a excuse I have ever seen, So you are saying anyone that was spanked is now a murderer ?

What I do see from the way you where brought up is a kid with no morals, and please don't take that as bad as it sounds Noir, but you are all for anything that most of us where taught was wrong, gay marriage for example, I am not going to debate you on whether that is right or wrong, that has been beat to death, but the way you and most Libs believe is what most would call a person with no morals.

But you can't change facts Noir, it became popular to not spank a child about the same time it become a trend of taking God out of everything, yup you now have to walk through metal detectors at many schools, yup it sure is working well.:rolleyes: People now a days have no morals what so ever and yes I believe it comes directly from how you raise a child. I watch some of these lazy ass parents putting their kids on all kinds of narcotics now a days because they are sick, sick hell they need a foot in their butt and they will straighten right out, with that said I am not saying all kids that have special needs can be fixed with discipline, but many I have seen can.

[darin]

You guys aren't seeing this the right way. Here's what's happening.

Liberals - and progresssives - want MORE of their kind, except not as equals but as followers. To keep liberals in power they advocate points of view that will best generate sheep to follow them. Having Non-spanked kids increases their likelyhood of becoming more like Noir, who support TERRIBLE political and social positions. Noir follows. That's partly due to the environment in which he was raised.

You want the world to support the UN and their corrupt and borderline EVIL practices? Raise more ninnies.

[Kathianne]

I was spanked as a child and yea I am itching to commit murders, that is about as lame as a excuse I have ever seen, So you are saying anyone that was spanked is now a murderer ?

What I do see from the way you where brought up is a kid with no morals, and please don't take that as bad as it sounds Noir, but you are all for anything that most of us where taught was wrong, gay marriage for example, I am not going to debate you on whether that is right or wrong, that has been beat to death, but the way you and most Libs believe is what most would call a person with no morals.

But you can't change facts Noir, it became popular to not spank a child about the same time it become a trend of taking God out of everything, yup you now have to walk through metal detectors at many schools, yup it sure is working well.:rolleyes: People now a days have no morals what so ever and yes I believe it comes directly from how you raise a child. I watch some of these lazy ass parents putting their kids on all kinds of narcotics now a days because they are sick, sick hell they need a foot in their butt and they will straighten right out, with that said I am not saying all kids that have special needs can be fixed with discipline, but many I have seen can.

Discipline that is bounded by set limitations and explained within the reasoning ability of the child leads to self-discipline. The child learns to control themselves internally, for their good and the good of others around them. There are many ways of arriving at that, spankings being one, whether the most effective or not is not really up to the government to say.

I'd have to say, based only upon what is written, that Noir is certainly a moral based person. I may not agree with all his choices, but he's consistent and does nothing to harm himself or others. He may not share the morals of others, but he's not without morals.

[Noir]

I was spanked as a child and yea I am itching to commit murders, that is about as lame as a excuse I have ever seen, So you are saying anyone that was spanked is now a murderer ? No, you're the one making these kinds of statements
, but yea now the liberals say it is wrong and want time outs and all that trash, yup it's working great, I see all the killings, crime rates and the world just basically slipping into a pit, yup it sure is a good idea.[/quote] I don't think being spanked or not spanked creates murderers, you apparently link not spanking children to 'killings, crime rates and the world slipping into a pit'. If you think my comment was a stupid one, take heart that atleast it was sarcastic, can we say the same of your post?

[jimnyc]

Only an idiot would even think of jailing a parent for spanking their child. And they said SPANKING, not abusing or beating.

If that's how someone doesn't want to raise their child, so be it, that's cool. But only idiots would try to tell parents how to raise THEIR children.

[jimnyc]

I doubt someone can say what it prevents days/years down the road. No more than someone trying to say it's somehow bad, when it's not. But I HAVE seen proof, with my own eyes, or kids that were "bad" in various ways, where the behavior ceased with small spankings that wouldn't harm the smallest of dogs.

[Noir]

Having Non-spanked kids increases their likelyhood of becoming more like Noir, who support TERRIBLE political and social positions. Noir follows. That's partly due to the environment in which he was raised.

Interesting that you link these social positions to me not being hit, rather than years of Sunday prayers and religious schooling.

[Perianne]

I spanked my daughter a few times, though I think the last time was when she was five.

It broke my heart to do so and I cried afterwards. I felt it was necessary, though.

Warning: if anyone spanks their child in anger it is an abominable sin in my opinion.

[darin]

Interesting that you link these social positions to me not being hit, rather than years of Sunday prayers and religious schooling.

Because I had years of religious schooling - AND was loved-enough by my parents to spank me. That kept me from being a ninny. Sure, I could become a ninny - just as you can become enlightened and shun your hurtful social agendas. Am thankful my parents gave me the right head start though. Spanking your kids when they're little helps - not ensures - they refrain from being societies 'takers'.

Anti-spankers don't love their kids enough to do the hard-right over the easy wrong. Yes. I said it.

[Noir]

Anti-spankers don't love their kids enough...

Ace.

[crin63]

My 26 year old son openly agrees and frequently states that the only thing that worked and he is very grateful for it was discipline in the form of swats when he was in about the 4th grade. We tried all the ridiculous methods of correcting his behavior like time-outs, standing in the corner, reason with, rewards, taking away toys, reason with him some more and none of them worked. Up to a dozen swats on the backside everyday for 2 weeks changed his world. After that he only got swats maybe 3 or 4 times and he admits that he needed all but one of them. The one he said that he didn't need was because he was so broken by my disappointment in him that he would never again do what he had done and swats really were not necessary but he understood why he got them. His 4th grade teacher said she hated him because he just would not listen to anything she said. He did what he wanted to do. He was continually disturbing the class. After the swats he was then frequently his teachers favorite student in the classroom. He now has a Bachelors degree in business and has the discipline to be an employee, business owner and entrepreneur all at the same time. We talk on the phone 2 or 3 times a week for 30 minutes give or take. He said I am still his go to guy for counsel, his closest advisor and his friend in addition to being his Pops. By the way 20 year old daughter only needed swats until she was about 7 or 8. She decided that dads way was the best way. She begins medical school in a month and we are as close as a father and daughter can be.

So I will take that any day of the week over some lousy Liberal Socialist organization trying to tell me whats best for my child.

[Voted4Reagan]

Since when do we allow the UN to dictate our internal national policies... ??

[Gunny]

How dare they, adults should be able to hit children whenever they want.

Nah. They should be a waste like you never learning the consequences of their actions.

[Gunny]

Yeah i mean i was never hit as a child and i'm just itching to commit some murders.

Spanking a child equates to murder? Grow up. It's rather obvious you never got spanked for being a dipshit.

[revelarts]

How dare they, adults should be able to hit children whenever they want.

sarcasm alert
well It's UNIVERSALLY immoral to spank children of course. decades of human history prove it. (not to mention guilt feelings by some people) ergo immoral.
it's like mathematics. so of course. Putting a child's parents in cages and giving the children to state orphanages, and foster homes to raise is the UNIVERSALLY moral and of course sane alternative.

:rolleyes:

[Gunny]

It wasn't what I did
I was spanked as a child and yea I am itching to commit murders, that is about as lame as a excuse I have ever seen, So you are saying anyone that was spanked is now a murderer ?

What I do see from the way you where brought up is a kid with no morals, and please don't take that as bad as it sounds Noir, but you are all for anything that most of us where taught was wrong, gay marriage for example, I am not going to debate you on whether that is right or wrong, that has been beat to death, but the way you and most Libs believe is what most would call a person with no morals.

But you can't change facts Noir, it became popular to not spank a child about the same time it become a trend of taking God out of everything, yup you now have to walk through metal detectors at many schools, yup it sure is working well.:rolleyes: People now a days have no morals what so ever and yes I believe it comes directly from how you raise a child. I watch some of these lazy ass parents putting their kids on all kinds of narcotics now a days because they are sick, sick hell they need a foot in their butt and they will straighten right out, with that said I am not saying all kids that have special needs can be fixed with discipline, but many I have seen can.

got spanked for getting up in the morning. It just started everyone's day off right.:laugh: It wasn't what I did, but what I was thinking about doing.:laugh:

[Trigg]

The UN seriously needs to go away.

Spanking works with some children

Time out works with some children

lectures work with some children

The trick is finding the punishment that works and will change the behavior with each individual child. Heck, I even used push-ups as a punishment (my daughter could whip out 50 perfect push-ups :laugh:) to correct behavior.

If you take away a parents ability to push a child for wrong doing you will create a generation of children who the state then has to deal with in court.

[Jeff]

The government or UN has 0 right to tell parents how to discipline or what to all their children to eat or where to go. Yes, the state may step in for abuse/neglect which includes those that go beyond discipline or rearing children. We may disagree on corporal punishment or even feeding, but those are opinions, not the government.

I mean no harm but quite honestly I don't believe Noir is a bad guy at all, I think he is extremely smart and he runs his life just as he wishes to, but as for Morals, I don't feel he has them, gay marriage alone tells me that, my way of thinking is if a person is OK with two people of the same sex getting married ( when they could of had a legal unuion, but likes the idea of marriage just to put religion down, well that is a lack of morals )

Noir has also let me know in the past he is OK with guys walking around showing their draws to everyone, again this shows a lack of Morals to me, maybe I am missing something here but to me most liberals have no morals, and as bad as it sounds it isn't meant to be a slam, Noir and others like him choose to live that way, as I have already stated I believe he is very smart, he just chooses to live with different morals than I ( maybe that will work better, although honestly I still don't see where a liberal forget Noir for now, has morals )


No, you're the one making these kinds of statements [/I][/COLOR] I don't think being spanked or not spanked creates murderers, you apparently link not spanking children to 'killings, crime rates and the world slipping into a pit'. If you think my comment was a stupid one, take heart that at least it was sarcastic, can we say the same of your post?[/QUOTE]

OK fair enough Noir, but what i said was when it became unfashionable to discipline your child that is when the country started to go bezerk, yes when I went to school we didn't have to walk through metal detectors, and honestly I wasn't afraid of the teachers, I was afraid she would call my parents,:laugh: so OK your right I started that conversation, but I still believe the country went down hill at the same time the libs demanded God be taken out of everything and that was also when it became wrong to discipline your child.

[Perianne]

sarcasm alert
well It's UNIVERSALLY immoral to spank children of course. decades of human history prove it. (not to mention guilt feelings by some people) ergo immoral.
it's like mathematics. so of course. Putting a child's parents in cages and giving the children to state orphanages, and foster homes to raise is the UNIVERSALLY moral and of course sane alternative.

:rolleyes:

Again, it amazes me that this generation - the one that has all the answers - throws out thousands of years of trial and error in .... well, just about everything. Only this generation has it all figured out.

[Kathianne]

Again, it amazes me that this generation - the one that has all the answers - throws out thousands of years of trial and error in .... well, just about everything. Only this generation has it all figured out.

While there were probably parents who never used corporal punishment even earlier, I'm pretty sure that the 'movement' away from corporal punishment began in late 40's, not today. Thank Dr. Spock's, "Baby and Child Care." Heck, that's older than me!

My mom had a copy, she said to the effect, "Some of it is rubbish, some is commonsense, some just helps you realize you're not alone." I think that sums up child rearing pretty well.

Like I think Trigg said, 'it's finding what works for each parent and child.'

[Abbey Marie]

IMO, just a few spanks at a young age, saves tons of problems with discipline in the future.

Nothing worse than seeing kids winging, crying, and manipulating their hapless parents in public, because they never learned who is actually in authority.

[Jeff]

IMO, just a few spanks at a young age, saves tons of problems with discipline in the future.

Nothing worse than seeing kids winging, crying, and manipulating their hapless parents in public, because they never learned who is actually in authority.

A slap on the butt or hand when the kids where young made it by the time they where 6 and 7 that I just had to look at them and they knew to quit, What happened to spare the rod spoil the child?

Kat as far as it starting in the 40's maybe so, but I was born in the early 60's and I didn't have one friend that wasn't more afraid of what their Dad was going to do when they got in trouble then what the consequences where going to be at school, police station ect...

First time I got locked up ( some stupid stuff at the mall, running around in a unauthorized area, we weren't really locked up but held to our parents picked us up ) hell I begged the rent a cop to call the real police and put me in jail :laugh: and as suspected my Dad walked in and as we where leaving I received the first back hand ( which my friends all thought was funny as hell ) until the next morning when we met to walk to school and you could see the terror in each of their eyes :laugh: yup their dad's where the same as mine. :laugh:

My Dad who was born in 36 said he thought his dad was a guy that came home to whoop his butt at night and then left again, and yes that was at early ages, but I know I can speak for my Dad as well as most guys in General, I thank God, as most do, that are parents loved us enough to take the time to discipline us, yes it would of been a lot easier ( at least in my case ) to just say the heck with him, let him do as he wishes. But my parents loved me, nope they didn't need the new hip meds ya give kids ( dope them up ) and again as I stated earlier in some cases it is a needed therapy and it works, in others the drugs become Mom and Dad.

[revelarts]

Use to be we knew that more than children needed a spankin' now n then -cough- yeah.

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wow...
these guys sound like some muslims

[Perianne]

Use to be we knew that more than children needed a spankin' now n then -cough- yeah.

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wow...
these guys sound like some muslims

Not for disciplinary purposes, but I actually like being spanked. (The dark side of Perianne.)

[jimnyc]

Not for disciplinary purposes, but I actually like being spanked. (The dark side of Perianne.)

Hey baby. I think I just fell in lust! :coffee:

[Gunny]

How dare they, adults should be able to hit children whenever they want.

Yeah. How dare anyone have to suffer the consequences of their actions.

[Gunny]

And I got baby duty. I'll kick your ass later. Cuz all us horrible parents can't hold a baby and type.

[Abbey Marie]

Lol, so true


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