Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

[red states rule]

I have not been around much due to over time at work and on going health issues; but when I saw this story I had to share it with the community. I did not see a thread on this topic so I posted the video. WARNING it is disturbing!!!!!

In this video, you will see and hear, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, head of PPFA’s Medical Services department,t discussing the sale of body parts of aborted babies. She eats her say and drinks her wine as if she is discussing the sale of a car. Her callousness is incredible.

So it has come to this in America - one can be arrested, fined, and threatened with jail for not baking a cake for a gay wedding - but tax dollars go to the slaughter of unborn babies and the sale of there body parts.

I wonder what this administration and the pro abortion folks will say about this



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjxwVuozMnU

[NightTrain]

I saw this earlier...

Absolutely horrifying. These people are barbarians of the highest order.

[red states rule]

I saw this earlier...

Absolutely horrifying. These people are barbarians of the highest order.

I am going to break on of my own rules here NT. I cringe when the left compares us to Nazi's and hate when our side does it to Obama - however - as I watch the "Doctor" eat her salad, sip her wine, and discuss how to skirt the law - all I can think of is the conference where the Nazi's discussed the final solution to the Jewish question. The dined, relaxed, and casually discussed the slaughter of 5 million people just as she does in this sickening video

[Jeff]

I seen this yesterday as well, and it is disgusting. I didn't post it because last week I posted a couple of equally offensive post and got just a couple of replies. It's sad people don't care anymore than they do, but in the same token with so many things being offensive now a days where do you begin.

[red states rule]

I seen this yesterday as well, and it is disgusting. I didn't post it because last week I posted a couple of equally offensive post and got just a couple of replies. It's sad people don't care anymore than they do, but in the same token with so many things being offensive now a days where do you begin.

I know what you mean Jeff. I am rather disappointed in the community myself

I thought with all the conservatives here there would more posts on the thread but I guess the folks here are more interested in the Confederate flag, transgenders, and Hillary. I guess the wholesale slaughter of babies for money does not peak the interest here

But some people are paying attention




Planned Parenthood faces probe after vid shows it deals in aborted fetuses (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/15/planned-parenthood-facing-investigations-over-abhorrent-video-on-body-part/)

[NightTrain]

Well, actually, there are a couple of topics that I don't care to discuss - and that's because they truly affect me deeply.

It's not because I don't care about this topic, rather the opposite is true. Abortion is WRONG. It is totally evil. And to watch a video of a woman sipping wine and casually chatting about different methods of killing babies in order to harvest different body parts disturbs me on a deep level.

That's why you don't get much action with this particular story/topic, at least from me.

I think the silence is one of stunned horror, not apathy. Some things are just unspeakable.

My $0.02

[Abbey Marie]

I know what you mean Jeff. I am rather disappointed in the community myself

I thought with all the conservatives here there would more posts on the thread but I guess the folks here are more interested in the Confederate flag, transgenders, and Hillary. I guess the wholesale slaughter of babies for money does not peak the interest here

But some people are paying attention


I post about abortion quite a bit. And I'd agree- it looks like people don't care. But I like to think it is just fatigue over the seeming hopelessness of the situation.

:(

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I saw this earlier...

Absolutely horrifying. These people are barbarians of the highest order.
Nothing will be done--that is unless a civil war is fought and won by the right side. Yes we are now that far gone. Sad isn't it? So why rant about the lib/left/dems being murdering monsters -as it does not good at all --they need to be brought to justice and only way to do that is not with the Federal government we have now.
Blood would have to be shed in massive amounts to cut out the evil infesting this nation now..-Tyr

[jimnyc]

I post about abortion quite a bit. And I'd agree- it looks like people don't care. But I like to think it is just fatigue over the seeming hopelessness of the situation.

:(

For me, it's not that I don't care. A search will show I very rarely participate in the abortion discussions. It sickens me to no end and I'm afraid that me being sickened by it won't amount to much in the way of ever seeing change in our lifetime. I know that's the cowards way out, and that we should speak out and try to make change. But it's gotten to the point that one is instantly vilified for daring to talk about someone else's life, their body. And then being a man, how dare I even approach the subject, I have no rights. So many reasons that one gets labeled for standing up for the babies lives.

[Rat]

Disturbing. This is no legal is it?

[Kathianne]

Disturbing. This is no legal is it?

From what I've read, the investigations will look at:

1. If there is profit being made.

2. If procedures for abortion were altered in any way to 'harvest' organs, that is not allowed.

[indago]

I seen this yesterday as well, and it is disgusting. I didn't post it because last week I posted a couple of equally offensive post and got just a couple of replies. It's sad people don't care anymore than they do, but in the same token with so many things being offensive now a days where do you begin.

Maybe it's not so much that "people don't care anymore", but that they are stunned that such a thing could happen. I am recalling the movie Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer, based on the life of serial killer Henry Lee Lucas, starring Michael Rooker. The film was rated X by the film board and the producers fought this rating for four years to get the picture released under an R rating. When it finally was re-rated, it had a special showing in various theaters around the country. I went to one of these, and I didn't hear anyone say a word while the movie was showing. When the film was finished, and we were slowly walking out of the theater, I didn't hear one word spoken by anyone. If they were as stunned as I was that there could be such individuals in existence, then little wonder that nobody said anything. I am glad that I went to this viewing. It made me aware of the stark reality of this type of criminal.

[Jeff]

Well, actually, there are a couple of topics that I don't care to discuss - and that's because they truly affect me deeply.

It's not because I don't care about this topic, rather the opposite is true. Abortion is WRONG. It is totally evil. And to watch a video of a woman sipping wine and casually chatting about different methods of killing babies in order to harvest different body parts disturbs me on a deep level.

That's why you don't get much action with this particular story/topic, at least from me.

I think the silence is one of stunned horror, not apathy. Some things are just unspeakable.

My $0.02

I agree NT, I believe most feel so strong about it and it has been beat up so bad but to no avail, I posted how one Western state is allowing 15 year old to have surgery to switch sex without parents permission or that in that same state ( If I remember correctly ) or they are also allowing the same 15 year old girls to get IUD's implanted, I think half look at these stories and find them hard to believe, seems like no one could make that trash up in their worst nightmare.


Disturbing. This is no legal is it?

Rat I was reading this morning how this breaks quite a few federal laws, I would of posted but it was actually in a article trying to pull Obama into the mix, and yes it was one of those right winged It's Obama's fault for everything sites. :laugh: Now, not that I don't believe Obama is wrong in just about everything he does, but you can't tie him to every wrong in the country. :laugh:

[Kathianne]

Looking at what has been:

http://pjmedia.com/andrewmccarthy/2015/07/16/planned-parenthoods-real-crime-making-us-notice/


Planned Parenthood’s Real Crime: Making Us NoticePosted By Andrew C. McCarthy On July 16, 2015 @ 8:47 am


...Harvesting body parts, technically, is a federal crime. So is homicide by partial birth abortion. The video suggests that Planned Parenthood may be performing this “surgical procedure,” perhaps routinely. Doctor Nucatola again:


With the calvarium [ACM: the child’s head], in general, some people will actually try to change the presentation so that it’s not vertex. [ACM: i.e., move the delivery position of the baby so that it is not head-first but feet first -- the “breech” position.] Because when it’s vertex presentation, you never have enough dilation at the beginning of the case, unless you have a real, huge amount of dilation to deliver an intact calvarium. So if you do it starting from the breech presentation, there’s dilation that happens as the case goes on, and often, the last step, you can evacuate an intact calvarium at the end.


If the baby were still alive while being partially delivered and then killed, that would be a violation of the “partial birth abortion” law. Has that been happening? It would be a question that cries out for investigation … if this were the sort of thing we were inclined to investigate.



But it’s not. If you read the partial birth abortion statute (Section 1531 of the federal penal code (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1531)), you’ll see why. Notice the penalty: two years’ imprisonment.


That is not how our law usually treats the killing of human beings, or even the non-lethal infliction of pain, or the mere causing of anxiety.

Murder is often punished by life imprisonment, or even the death penalty. Maiming will get you 30 years, an assault 20. An armed bank robbery is punishable by 25 years in the slammer even if no one is actually harmed.


But partial birth abortion is punishable by two years in jail — and that’s the maximum. Why is that?


Because, as I’ve argued before (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/345483/dehumanizing-word-games-gosnell-andrew-c-mccarthy), in a society that permits the killing of children as if they were not human beings, the killing is only to be done, never spoken of and never noticed.


Killing unborn infants is monstrous, but we’ve become inured to it after allowing it 60 million times. The problem with the partial-birth method was not the killing; it was that the sheer depravity of the method pierced our numbing euphemisms. Even the Supreme Court, the tribunal that licensed infanticide in 1973, was forced to notice. As the justices related inGonzales v. Carhart:



The right-handed surgeon slides the fingers of the left [hand] along the back of the fetus and “hooks” the shoulders of the fetus with the index and ring fingers (palm down). While maintaining this tension, lifting the cervix and applying traction to the shoulders with the fingers of the left hand, the surgeon takes a pair of blunt curved Metzenbaum scissors in the right hand. He carefully advances the tip, curved down, along the spine and under his middle finger until he feels it contact the base of the skull under the tip of his middle finger. The surgeon then forces the scissors into the base of the skull. … He spreads the scissors to enlarge the opening. … The surgeon [then] removes the scissors and introduces a suction catheter into this hole and evacuates the skull contents. With the catheter still in place, he applies traction to the fetus, removing it completely from the patient.


See? The “doctor” who “treats” the “patient” does not get up to two years for killing the infant. He gets up to two years because he made us notice that we kill another million infants (http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html)every year.
We do not wish to notice.


If we noticed, we might be forced to think about what happens to the “tissue” that, of necessity, must be disposed of in every “case” where a “patient” undergoes the generally legal “procedure.”


Doctor Nucatola’s real offense is not harvesting body parts. It is showing us, so insouciantly, what we’ve become.
From Andrew Klavan: There will come a time when the people who run Planned Parenthood will be viewed as we view slaveholders today. (http://pjmedia.com/andrewklavan/2015/07/16/the-future-of-planned-parenthood/)

[tailfins]

Well, actually, there are a couple of topics that I don't care to discuss - and that's because they truly affect me deeply.

It's not because I don't care about this topic, rather the opposite is true. Abortion is WRONG. It is totally evil. And to watch a video of a woman sipping wine and casually chatting about different methods of killing babies in order to harvest different body parts disturbs me on a deep level.

That's why you don't get much action with this particular story/topic, at least from me.

I think the silence is one of stunned horror, not apathy. Some things are just unspeakable.

My $0.02

How long until The Almighty says "Enough!"?

[red states rule]

Dr. Deborah Nucatola, who serves as national senior director of "medical services" at Planned Parenthood, coolly discusses cash exchanges for intact organs while sipping wine with her lunch. She also sneers how laws on the sale of body parts are up for "interpretation" while admitting the demand for hearts, livers, and lower extremities are in demand.

And let’s not forget the talking point that aborted babies are nothing but a clump of plasma on one hand, and marketing intact organs on the other. Watching her discuss how babies are carved up like a Thanksgiving turkey for buyers of body parts shows this "doctors" compassion would fit in a thimble and has the bed side manner of Hannibal Lector.

This "doctor" referred to an unborn baby's head as a "calvarium" and callously described the procedures she and her fellow butchers use to "increase your chance of success." Rotating the babies so they are delivered breech before being sliced and diced. Yet the left and liberal media are either silent on this story or are offering up the usual excuses to try and spin her inadvertent confession.

The excuses range from the video shown was edited or the "doctors" words were taken out of context. As if the slaughter going on is a pesky insignificant occurrence. Also consider taxpayer flows into this organization to cover its operating costs.

A decade ago the debate was over if using human embryos for "research" was moral and needed. Those who wanted to do that won the debate. Now we are seeing the left has taken it to the next level; harvesting body parts of dead babies for money and "research".

What kind of country do we live in where businesses are fined, harassed, and threatened with jail for refusing to bake gay wedding cakes, but the butchers at Planned Parenthood are praised, protected, and President Obama asked God to "bless" them?

Another "doctor" named Josef Mengele once said morality and research does not mix. Sad to say, that is true today at Planned Parenthood.

No offense was intended to the community. It took some time, but the liberal media is starting to pay attention to the story. By that I mean offering up the lame excuses to try and excuse the slaughter for profit.

One lib sneered how the video was "right wing pornography" And most simply try to attack the makers of video while not discussing the slaughter for profit

Sad how the left will freak out over an injured kangaroo rat or a beached whale - but could not care less over a baby being crushed, sliced, and diced for profit

[Kathianne]

Fifth video:

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/250179-fifth-planned-parenthood-video-turns-to-intact-fetuses


In the fifth video from the Center for Medical Progress, a woman identified as Melissa Farrell, director of research for Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, discusses contributing to the organization's "diversification of the revenue stream" and the potential to "get creative" with conditions for procurement needs. The video was reportedly filmed this past April at a Planned Parenthood facility in Texas."Just depending on the patient's anatomy, how many weeks, where it's placed in the uterus ... we're going to potentially be able to have some that will be more or less intact, and then some that will not be," she said.

"But it's something that we can look at exploring how we can make that happen so we have a higher chance," she adds.

...

[Gunny]

I seen this yesterday as well, and it is disgusting. I didn't post it because last week I posted a couple of equally offensive post and got just a couple of replies. It's sad people don't care anymore than they do, but in the same token with so many things being offensive now a days where do you begin.

I keep asking the same question with no response: How can you get human body parts from a clump of cells that isn't human? These hypocritical losers need to sh*t or get off the pot.

[Kathianne]

I keep asking the same question with no response: How can you get human body parts from a clump of cells that isn't human? These hypocritical losers need to sh*t or get off the pot.

Indeed. Same thing Ben Carson asked.

[Gunny]

Indeed. Same thing Ben Carson asked.

I like Ben Carson. Too bad an honest man can't win an election in this country.

[revelarts]

Seems planned parenthood is speaking out of both sides of it's arse again.
PP and Pro-chiocers often say "the fetus is not wanted" but they should say "the fetus is not wanted ALIVE " because dead they find a way to profit off of them.
...PP trains their staff to perform these abortions so that PP clinics can harvest organs to meet specific demand...
“A lot of people want liver,” the PP rep says after a sip of wine.

Just want to post more things to consider here.

I'm going to challenge some of you maybe.
1st of all, While it is a horrific subject. I'm disappointed in all the self proclaimed "fighters" attitude of defeat over this issue.
if Muslims and Mexicans cross the boarder and take over will you quit fighting after 20, 30 years? i suspect not. but maybe i'm wrong.
the anti slavery groups in England fought for over 60yrs to outlaw slavery... which had been legal for centuries. Same in the U.S..
will you do even a little to agitate against abortion with your representatives? in your town? help the pro life groups that are still fighting?
Where are the law and order types here, PP BROKE the LAW! the Nazis didn't even sell the bodies of the people they killed, they buried or burned.
Ok
off my soapbox now.

just some extra info and comments around the current news.
the legal question in news seems to be does PP "SELL" baby parts for "PROFIT".
Also whether or not doctors alter their abortion surgical procedures without "INFORMED" consent to harvest the human body parts.
(sadly not whether abortion is a crime period)
So federal laws is still broken in the U.S. on the SALE of Human Parts and Uninformed consent.
So the undercover videos seem to make it clear on all counts.
and some gov't investigations have begun.
But there's more info available publicly that has shown this to be the case for sometime.

Selling for profit:
yes
http://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Financial-Profits-Baby-Organs.jpg


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An advertisement from StemExpress, one of Planned Parenthood’s partners, boasts of the “financial profits” that come from harvesting and distributing body parts and organs taken from aborted unborn babies.

The advertisement, which lists the many benefits of using StemExpress to distribute harvested human organs, explicitly highlights the financial rewards that come from aborting healthy unborn babies and then harvesting their bodies for organs and other tissue.

“Easy To Implement + Financial Profits,” blares one of the main headings in the StemExpress pamphlet.

“StemExpress promotes global biomedical research while also providing a financial benefit to your clinic,” reads one excerpt from the ad. Another section from the pamphlet says that StemExpress’s program also “fiscally rewards clinics” that choose to enroll.

An official from Planned Parenthood is even directly quoted in the advertisement praising the many benefits of partnering with StemExpress.

Although the company appears to specialize in the collection and distribution of stem cells, its advertisement also explicitly refers to “raw materials” resulting from abortions — materials such as human organs, tissues, and body parts — and how their distribution can contribute to the “fiscal growth” of participating abortion clinics.

The ad references the financial benefits of harvesting human body parts at least three times.

The StemExpress marketing material was obtained by the Center for Medical Progress, a non-profit that also released damning video of a senior Planned Parenthood official trying to sell body parts taken from aborted babies. In the video, the official brags about how she aborts babies in such a way that their body parts can be harvested and later sold.

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http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/14/...ncial-profits/ (http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/14/planned-parenthood-partner-baby-organ-trafficking-financial-profits/)

Planned Parenthood official: Abortion procedures, prices altered to meet demand | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/04/planned-parenthood-official-docs-alter-abortion-procedures-price-structure/?intcmp=hpbt1)


here's another video.
this is of an PP abortion clinic worker talking (with inside clinic video) about the "harvesting" of body parts.
And discussing the VARIOUS PRICES "you can get". profits made for various body parts.
VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DhbwcucB0-o

more in next post.

[revelarts]

the originals Videos it shows the woman saying:

"We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”
“I’d say a lot of people want liver. And for that reason, most providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps.
“The kind of rate-limiting step of the procedure is calvarium. Calvarium—the head—is basically the biggest part. …

And the tapes CLEARLY show them NEGOTIATING for the BEST prices not saying things like -OUR COST are this please just cover the cost-. What they say is things like "you know i'm the 1st one to name a price I'm at a disadvantage in the negotiation". and "I want a Lambragini".there's now been a State hearing in Texas were the Attoney General said
Quote:

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A.G. Paxton::
"Over the past several days, there have been reports that my office, as part of our investigation, has gained possession of hours of video recordings involving a Texas branch of Planned Parenthood. These reports are accurate. I cannot go into detail about these recordings at this time, but they appear to be consistent with other videos that have been released regarding Planned Parenthood."

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Also at the hearing..
Quote:

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two former abortion workers, Abby Johnson and Carol Everett. Their testimonies were indicting.
Johnson discussed the POC lab, which is what abortion workers call the babies, short for Products of Conception.
However, in Planned Parenthood the joke was it stood for pieces of children…. The freezer was jokingly called the nursery in our abortion facility. Johnson testified that her Planned Parenthood clinic made $200 per baby. She said fetal tissue donations were “sheer profit for Planned Parenthood.” Even with a conservative estimate, she said, the large quota-based Planned Parenthood clinic that had even 50 tissue donors abortions a day could easily make $120,000 a month from tissue donation, even with a $100 profit–with no significant reimbursement costs. She also testified that in her clinic they changed the abortion procedures when they needed to get certain baby parts, such as eyeballs or neural tissue, for the orders made from the procurement agency, Amphioxus Cell Technology....
Testimonies from TX hearing detail how Planned Parenthood is selling baby parts | Live Action News (http://liveactionnews.org/testimonies-tx-hearing-detail-planned-parenthood-selling-baby-parts/#more-68634)
Senate Committee on Health & Human Services - Jul 29th, 2015 (http://tlcsenate.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=30&clip_id=10412)

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I encourage folks to watch the testimony of the former independent Abortion faulty manager and the the former PP clinic manager at the Texas State HHS hearing who CONFIRM that the practices that are evident in the tape did in fact take place while they were working.
Senate Committee on Health & Human Services - Jul 29th, 2015 (http://tlcsenate.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=30&clip_id=10412)
their testimony starts apx at the 2:25 mark.

In summery they reveal under oath.
•No real extra costs are incurred to provide parts beyond $5-$10 shipping.
--So "reimbursement" costs are NOTHING close to a $100 -$200 PER body part.

•Consent forms Do Not detail a change of medical procedure OR that specific body parts are to be "harvested".

•Consent forms are not detailed at all and verbally PP workers obfuscate the facts even more.

•doctors are in fact changing the medical procedure to harvest against federal law and with more potential risk to the woman.

[revelarts]

all videos here have graphic images or talk

More videos have been released where the undercover reporters discusses with a PP the fact that they can provide INTACT full Fetuses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egGUEvY7CEg

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/08/04/5th-shocking-video-catches-planned-parenthood-official-selling-fully-intact-aborted-babies/

............
Below is a video of whole fluid sack cleanly removed with fluid and a child still alive inside.
it's not gruesome in and of itself but knowing that the child will die is horrible.
Nurses film the sack on the table and poke the child with their fingers and he or she MOVES in response to touches.
Age of child Unknown but it's very small.
the nurses speak a foreign language, sounds middle eastern, no subtitles.
but the video is arresting.
"SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT COMMENT YOUR VIEWS ABOUT ABORTION"
is the title of the video.
i sure hope so

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=s5H6ubNHjjg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=s5H6ubNHjjg)


Here's another video that's even more Graphic with an even SMALLER living child outside of the womb after an abortion in Brazil.
The child is no bigger than a man's finger. the "Doctor" pick up and abuses the tiny baby as it moves and squirms .
warning VERY GRAPHIC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=33&v=wykXVQsiHno


Abortion Dr talking about killing -letting die - late term abortion living birth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NxOWyumLufA


Abortion Nurses talking about doctors killing late term abortion live birth children.
horrific descriptions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fhyJItGPko

[revelarts]

But with friends like these over the past 30 years will it ever stop.



http://mynetbox.info/images/pp-bushes-blackman.jpg

Which current presidential candidates have any Pro-life ACTIONS planned.

[revelarts]

Did Your Senator Vote to Defund Planned Parenthood? See Here
http://dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2015-08-04-at-6.59.13-AM.png



http://dailysignal.com/2015/08/03/did-your-senators-vote-to-defund-planned-parenthood-see-here/

[revelarts]

Fiorina on


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIyVGzf95VY

[Perianne]

Fiorina on


The more people learn about Hillary the more they dislike her. The more people learn about Fiorina the more they like her.

[Kathianne]

Well looky here:

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/14/hmmm-stemexpress-cuts-ties-with-planned-parenthood-after-6th-video-challenges-consent-process/


Hmmm: StemExpress cuts ties with Planned Parenthood after 6th video challenges consent processPOSTED AT 4:41 PM ON AUGUST 14, 2015 BY ED MORRISSEY
I believe this is known as cutting your losses. Caught up in a firestorm of controversy over its connections to Planned Parenthood and facing questions from a former employee over whether informed consent was given for organ harvesting in their clinics, StemExpress said adios to its partner today (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/planned-parenthood-fetal-tissue-company-cuts-ties-videos-121371.html#ixzz3iowGwSEm). The move came after members of Congress had also demanded an explanation of the tissue bank’s relationship with the nation’s largest abortion chain:

...

[NightTrain]

Well looky here:

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/14/hmmm-stemexpress-cuts-ties-with-planned-parenthood-after-6th-video-challenges-consent-process/


Have to agree that the incoming videos must be of Category 5 strength to make Stem Cell Express do what they've done, both in running to a Judge to block release of videotape and suddenly parting company with the Nation's largest abortion chain.

I really hope this sinks PP and wakes up women as to what is really happening.

[indago]

There are a lot of folks who want to adopt a baby and can't get one. Maybe they could buy a baby kit from the Planned Parenthood group and take it home and put it together and save themselves a lot of money in doing so.

[PixieStix]

Planned Parenthood..."women's health organization" my ass

My God, how I loathe that mantra.

[Abbey Marie]

Planned Parenthood..."women's health organization" my ass

My God, how I loathe that mantra.


The approx. 50% of aborted fetuses who are female, might disagree with that as well.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Planned Parenthood..."women's health organization" my ass

My God, how I loathe that mantra.
My son was born at 26 weeks. Exactly 24 ounces he weighed= one and half pounds! Fully a baby not a mass of flesh without life! Almost 90 days in hospital before he reached 3 and half pounds--minimium weight to be sent home.
Now he is 8 years old, the greatest treasure I can imagine.
Abortion is murder surely anytime after 20 weeks even if you discount that in the period preceding that late cut off time.

Our SCOTUS ruled as to law(man's) but God will decide the final judgment... A fact.. Tyr