U.S. signs nuke deal with Iran

[Little-Acorn]

As has been well documented, there have been embargoes and sanctions against Iran for many years, in response to Iran's constant support and instigation of terrorist activities around the world. Iran has made many agreements to stop such activities, and also to not engage in work that can lead to a nuclear bomb, and to let inspectors check their facilities regularly.

Iran, of course, has broken those promises regularly, refusing inspectors, enriching fuel, going back on agreements, etc.

So, one would expect any new "deal" to require 100% compliance with the program Iran has already agreed to, for a period of (say() two years, after which sanctions could be lifted. And it would call for inspections to be conducted of any facility, at any time, with no notice so that Iran could not hastily remove or cover up work it didn't want seen.

But instead, the present deal lifts sanctions on Iran immediately. In exchange, Iran has promised to stop breaking its promises. And Iran can refuse any inspections of military facilities. (Isn't military development of nuclear energy, exactly what we are most concerned about?)

Am I the only one who thinks this "deal" was drawn up by the authors of "Saturday Night Live"? Who wanted to produce the biggest, silliest joke they possibly could? To make the audience guffaw and ask each other, "Who would have ever proposed such a thing with a straight face?"

Are we living in a cartoon world now?

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http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/us-world-powers-historic-deal-iran-120076.html


U.S., world powers reach historic deal with Iran

By Michael Crowley and Nahal Toosi
7/14/15 5:18 AM EDT
Updated 7/14/15 11:57 AM EDT

(snip)

According to a 159-page document posted online by Russia’s foreign ministry, which it called the final text of the deal, a U.N. resolution lifting sanctions will also express the Security Council’s “desire to build a new relationship with Iran.”

See the full text of the Iran nuke deal here:
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/full-text-iran-deal-120080.html

The text says also that Iran has vowed that “under no circumstances” will it ever “seek, develop or acquire any nuclear weapons.” And it describes a joint commission composed of its seven parties to monitor the deal’s implementation.

One issue that will draw close scrutiny from nuclear experts is Iran’s ability to research advanced nuclear technologies while its program is constrained by a deal. Iran now relies on 1970s-era centrifuges to enrich uranium, which are highly inefficient. The document posted by Russian foreign ministry says that after 8½ years Iran can begin testing up to 30 modern IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuges. Analysts fear that, if Iran masters top-quality centrifuges, it might be capable of producing a bomb in a matter of months or weeks soon after the deal’s main restrictions lift in a decade.

On an issue that snagged the talks in their final days, the deal will free Iran from an arms embargo after five years, Obama said Tuesday.

[aboutime]

Finally! Obama has finally settled-in as IRAN's proxy President, in charge of the Destruction of America, Israel, and anyone who disagrees with the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD-DEMOCRAT-SOCIALIST principles of Ignorance by Design.

[Little-Acorn]

In a speech this morning about the signing of the deal, Iranian President Rouhani boasted about taking the U.S. to the cleaners, forcing the Americans to back down on condition after condition:

http://www.jta.org/2015/07/14/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/rouhani-touts-gains-made-by-iran-in-final-nuclear-deal

“Today is the end of oppressive sanctions. The chain of sanctions is broken,” Rouhani said Tuesday in an address to the nation after the announcement of the final deal. “Honorable Iranian nationals, all sanctions, including on missiles, will be lifted on days of implementation. Not suspended, lifted.

“At first they wanted us to have 100 centrifuges; now we will have 6,000. They wanted restrictions of 25 years; now it’s 8. Fordo had to be closed; now we will have 1,000 centrifuges there,” he said. . . .

Rouhani also pointed out that the heavy water nuclear plant at Arak will continue operating, and that advanced centrifuges also will remain operational. . . . "

Who can blame the man for being proud of making complete fools of the bumbling, publicity-hungry American administration?

[Drummond]

As has been well documented, there have been embargoes and sanctions against Iran for many years, in response to Iran's constant support and instigation of terrorist activities around the world. Iran has made many agreements to stop such activities, and also to not engage in work that can lead to a nuclear bomb, and to let inspectors check their facilities regularly.

Iran, of course, has broken those promises regularly, refusing inspectors, enriching fuel, going back on agreements, etc.

So, one would expect any new "deal" to require 100% compliance with the program Iran has already agreed to, for a period of (say() two years, after which sanctions could be lifted. And it would call for inspections to be conducted of any facility, at any time, with no notice so that Iran could not hastily remove or cover up work it didn't want seen.

But instead, the present deal lifts sanctions on Iran immediately. In exchange, Iran has promised to stop breaking its promises. And Iran can refuse any inspections of military facilities. (Isn't military development of nuclear energy, exactly what we are most concerned about?)

Am I the only one who thinks this "deal" was drawn up by the authors of "Saturday Night Live"? Who wanted to produce the biggest, silliest joke they possibly could? To make the audience guffaw and ask each other, "Who would have ever proposed such a thing with a straight face?"

Are we living in a cartoon world now?

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http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/us-world-powers-historic-deal-iran-120076.html


U.S., world powers reach historic deal with Iran

By Michael Crowley and Nahal Toosi
7/14/15 5:18 AM EDT
Updated 7/14/15 11:57 AM EDT

(snip)

According to a 159-page document posted online by Russia’s foreign ministry, which it called the final text of the deal, a U.N. resolution lifting sanctions will also express the Security Council’s “desire to build a new relationship with Iran.”

See the full text of the Iran nuke deal here:
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/full-text-iran-deal-120080.html

The text says also that Iran has vowed that “under no circumstances” will it ever “seek, develop or acquire any nuclear weapons.” And it describes a joint commission composed of its seven parties to monitor the deal’s implementation.

One issue that will draw close scrutiny from nuclear experts is Iran’s ability to research advanced nuclear technologies while its program is constrained by a deal. Iran now relies on 1970s-era centrifuges to enrich uranium, which are highly inefficient. The document posted by Russian foreign ministry says that after 8½ years Iran can begin testing up to 30 modern IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuges. Analysts fear that, if Iran masters top-quality centrifuges, it might be capable of producing a bomb in a matter of months or weeks soon after the deal’s main restrictions lift in a decade.

On an issue that snagged the talks in their final days, the deal will free Iran from an arms embargo after five years, Obama said Tuesday.

No, you're wrong. It was drawn up, or at minimum inspired, by the surviving members of Monty Python. We should be seeing a sketch from them about it at any moment.

Iran excel in duplicity.

And has anyone - not least in Obama's Government !! - remembered that, back in 2009, Iran tried to hide the existence of an entire nuclear facility ?? Had it never been discovered, and in being undetected to this day, what would this new deal have been worth ??

Iran cannot be trusted. It's sheer madness to try.

Besides which .. Iran is a well-known exporter of terrorism. They prop up other terrorists .. they sell them arms. Unless I'm very much mistaken, they help bankroll Hamas these days. The lifting of sanctions will make it a lot easier to ramp up those efforts.

Just as Obama did terrorism 'a world of good' when he announced Iraq troop withdrawal intentions YEARS in advance, so, today, he's done it another great favour !!

[aboutime]

The U.S. did not sign any nuke deal with Iran. The Phony war hero Kerry, and Phony President Obama call it a deal, when the reality is. This entire fiasco is nothing more than a HOPED FOR Legacy for Kerry, and Obama. Who will both be blamed for eternity for sacrificing their own nation for their selfishness, and blatant stupidity.

When Honest History Books are written. Both men will get standing...just ABOVE Neville Chamberlain, and equal with Hitler.

[Drummond]

The U.S. did not sign any nuke deal with Iran. The Phony war hero Kerry, and Phony President Obama call it a deal, when the reality is. This entire fiasco is nothing more than a HOPED FOR Legacy for Kerry, and Obama. Who will both be blamed for eternity for sacrificing their own nation for their selfishness, and blatant stupidity.

When Honest History Books are written. Both men will get standing...just ABOVE Neville Chamberlain, and equal with Hitler.:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Chamberlain was a delusional idiot, albeit criminally so. Obama is more purposeful in following a long-term agenda.

I understand from this 'deal' (or whatever you'd call it) that Iran has the latitude to REFUSE inspections demanded of it ?? As farces go, this even dwarfs the 'Reneger Supreme', the Greek Leftie PM. That Leftie 'merely' gambled his country's fiscal future. Obama agreeing to such a ridiculous arrangement gives a whole lot of latitude to work towards the outright wiping - as Ahmadinejad put it - of a country 'OFF THE MAP'.

Forget fiscal black holes, and say hello to radioactive craters where cities once stood.

Not only that (as if that wasn't enough) .. but such refusals would, in heightening suspicions concerning what Iran's getting up to, convince other Middle Eastern powers that THEY had better 'nuke up' their own offensive capabilities. With Obama claiming that the world is now 'a safer place', will he still claim that for an entire Middle East bristling with nukes ?!?

[stephanie]

this is traitorous in my book

[Kathianne]

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Chamberlain was a delusional idiot, albeit criminally so. Obama is more purposeful in following a long-term agenda.

I understand from this 'deal' (or whatever you'd call it) that Iran has the latitude to REFUSE inspections demanded of it ?? As farces go, this even dwarfs the 'Reneger Supreme', the Greek Leftie PM. That Leftie 'merely' gambled his country's fiscal future. Obama agreeing to such a ridiculous arrangement gives a whole lot of latitude to work towards the outright wiping - as Ahmadinejad put it - of a country 'OFF THE MAP'.

Forget fiscal black holes, and say hello to radioactive craters where cities once stood.

Not only that (as if that wasn't enough) .. but such refusals would, in heightening suspicions concerning what Iran's getting up to, convince other Middle Eastern powers that THEY had better 'nuke up' their own offensive capabilities. With Obama claiming that the world is now 'a safer place', will he still claim that for an entire Middle East bristling with nukes ?!?


Chamberlain was desperate and naive, no one doubted his love of country. Obama?

http://www.steynonline.com/7049/far-worse-than-munich


Far Worse Than Munichby Mark Steyn • Jul 15, 2015 at 12:08 am

I checked in with Sean Hannity on Fox News to share my thoughts on both the Iran "deal" and illegal immigration. You can see the full interview here (http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/07/14/mark-steyn-sean-hannity-president-obama-sees-america-problem-world-stage).


Sean started by cross-cutting Barack Obama on Tuesday with Neville Chamberlain in 1938. But I thought that comparison was unfair to Chamberlain. He was an honorable man who loved his country and just happened to get the greatest issue of the day wrong. You can't say the same of Obama:



Steyn said he thinks what President Barack Obama did is "significantly worse" than what former British prime minister Neville Chamberlain did. He also stated that he doesn't think the president was negotiating on behalf of the United States.


"I think what happened at these talks is that he and the Iranians were in a sense negotiating together to anoint Iran as the regional power in the Middle East and to facilitate Iran's re-entry, the biggest planetary sponsor of terrorism, to facilitate its re-entry into the global community," Steyn said. "That's what Obama was there doing."


I think the nuclear issue was a mere pretext, a Hitchcockian McGuffin. Iran will be a nuclear state, and very soon. The joke inspections regime - under which Teheran can block any inspections for the best part of a month - will facilitate the nuclearization of Iran and prevent anyone who objects to it - such as Israel - from doing anything about it. That's a given.


But that's not what the talks were about. Obama's vision of the post-American Middle East sees Iran as the dominant power, and that's what the negotiations were there to finesse. As I said to Sean, Obama's belief that American power and influence has been bad for the world extends beyond America itself to America's allies. So on missile defense he takes the side of Russia over US allies like Poland and the Czech Republic; in the Falklands he takes the side of Argentina over the United Kingdom; and now in the Middle East he takes the side of Iran over the Sunni Arab monarchies and Israel.
This agreement will have bloody and brutal consequences.

...

[stephanie]

http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/greenfield-time-call-obama-and-kerry-what-they-are-traitors



(http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/greenfield-time-call-obama-and-kerry-what-they-are-traitors)We have met the enemy and he is in the white house:

how this man isn't Impeached. we need to contact our Representatives

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Chamberlain was desperate and naive, no one doubted his love of country. Obama?

http://www.steynonline.com/7049/far-worse-than-munich


I agree with Steyn completely. What obama did was choose terrorism over our nation's security and best interests! Obama was a very willing co-conspirator in this treasonous act and did so with full knowledge of his betrayal.
He should be impeached and tried for his certified treason. As this was no politics as usual or a simple example of a mistake--it was plainly open treason disguised as treaty making. -Tyr

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/greenfield-time-call-obama-and-kerry-what-they-are-traitors



(http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/greenfield-time-call-obama-and-kerry-what-they-are-traitors)We have met the enemy and he is in the white house:

how this man isn't Impeached. we need to contact our Representatives
Indeed! Just as I have been saying for well over 5 years now! -Tyr

[stephanie]

Indeed! Just as I have been saying for well over 5 years now! -Tyr

I've been saying that from the first day watching him and his people spit on taking the oath of office.

this is the worst ever

[Drummond]

Chamberlain was desperate and naive, no one doubted his love of country. Obama?

http://www.steynonline.com/7049/far-worse-than-munich

Though I pretty much agree with you on Chamberlain, bear in mind that he could have listened to Churchill's various warnings if he'd wanted to. His problem was that he didn't want to.

[aboutime]

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