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Gnostic Christian Bishop
07-14-2015, 02:10 PM
Should there be a law against public institutions that lie for money?
Religions and many charitable organizations of all stripes make their revenues by lying to people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ9oBCLwwL0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ9oBCLwwL0)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2835947/The-Great-British-rake-really-happens-billions-donate-charity-Fat-cat-pay-appalling-waste-hidden-agendas.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2835947/The-Great-British-rake-really-happens-billions-donate-charity-Fat-cat-pay-appalling-waste-hidden-agendas.html)
Should we help protect the gullible by eliminating all the fraud that is being passed off as religion and charity?
Those who do not believe the lies being sold by religions and charities are presently subsidize the tax exemptions and credits that religions and charities enjoy. What they save in taxes, non-believers and those who actually want to give to charities must fork up.
I am not what most would call a non-believer, I am a Gnostic Christian, but still resent my hard earned tax money being used to perpetuate what most know are lies. If you are a non-believer, or one who wants your charitable donations to actually be used for charity, I hope you feel the same and do not like being fleeced the way the gullible are.
There ought to be a law against institution like religions and bogus charities that live off of lying to the gullible.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/22/you-give-religions-more-than-82-5-billion-a-year/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/22/you-give-religions-more-than-82-5-billion-a-year/)
Do you agree?
Regards
DL
Gunny
07-14-2015, 02:37 PM
Should there be a law against public institutions that lie for money?
Religions and many charitable organizations of all stripes make their revenues by lying to people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ9oBCLwwL0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ9oBCLwwL0)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2835947/The-Great-British-rake-really-happens-billions-donate-charity-Fat-cat-pay-appalling-waste-hidden-agendas.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2835947/The-Great-British-rake-really-happens-billions-donate-charity-Fat-cat-pay-appalling-waste-hidden-agendas.html)
Should we help protect the gullible by eliminating all the fraud that is being passed off as religion and charity?
Those who do not believe the lies being sold by religions and charities are presently subsidize the tax exemptions and credits that religions and charities enjoy. What they save in taxes, non-believers and those who actually want to give to charities must fork up.
I am not what most would call a non-believer, I am a Gnostic Christian, but still resent my hard earned tax money being used to perpetuate what most know are lies. If you are a non-believer, or one who wants your charitable donations to actually be used for charity, I hope you feel the same and do not like being fleeced the way the gullible are.
There ought to be a law against institution like religions and bogus charities that live off of lying to the gullible.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/22/you-give-religions-more-than-82-5-billion-a-year/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/22/you-give-religions-more-than-82-5-billion-a-year/)
Do you agree?
Regards
DL
Dumb question. It violates the 1st Amendment. Then again, ask O-blah blah. He thinks he's above the law.
fj1200
07-14-2015, 04:50 PM
Should there be a law against public institutions that lie for money?
Religions and many charitable organizations of all stripes make their revenues by lying to people.
There already is; Charities are not exempt from fraud statutes. And as they are not wholesale being investigated for "lying..." then the premise of your thread is disproven. :)
aboutime
07-14-2015, 05:46 PM
Should there be a law against public institutions that lie for money?
Religions and many charitable organizations of all stripes make their revenues by lying to people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ9oBCLwwL0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ9oBCLwwL0)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2835947/The-Great-British-rake-really-happens-billions-donate-charity-Fat-cat-pay-appalling-waste-hidden-agendas.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2835947/The-Great-British-rake-really-happens-billions-donate-charity-Fat-cat-pay-appalling-waste-hidden-agendas.html)
Should we help protect the gullible by eliminating all the fraud that is being passed off as religion and charity?
Those who do not believe the lies being sold by religions and charities are presently subsidize the tax exemptions and credits that religions and charities enjoy. What they save in taxes, non-believers and those who actually want to give to charities must fork up.
I am not what most would call a non-believer, I am a Gnostic Christian, but still resent my hard earned tax money being used to perpetuate what most know are lies. If you are a non-believer, or one who wants your charitable donations to actually be used for charity, I hope you feel the same and do not like being fleeced the way the gullible are.
There ought to be a law against institution like religions and bogus charities that live off of lying to the gullible.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/22/you-give-religions-more-than-82-5-billion-a-year/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/22/you-give-religions-more-than-82-5-billion-a-year/)
Do you agree?
Regards
DL
Gnostic. You should take your own advice, or suggestion in answering the question. Since you obviously consider yourself somewhat of a DISTURBING public institution. YOU should practice what you preach, and quit lying so much...for FREE.
Gnostic Christian Bishop
07-15-2015, 09:19 AM
Dumb question. It violates the 1st Amendment. Then again, ask O-blah blah. He thinks he's above the law.
The constitution does not say that those who do not want to should pay the fair tax burden that religions misuse.
It also does not say that the government should ignore the liars and con men in religious organization who fleece the gullible.
Fraud is against the law and that is what religion is. But you go ahead and believe all the lies you like but please ask your church to get it filthy hands out of my pocket.
Regards
DL
Gnostic Christian Bishop
07-15-2015, 09:24 AM
There already is; Charities are not exempt from fraud statutes. And as they are not wholesale being investigated for "lying..." then the premise of your thread is disproven. :)
Intelligent people recognise the the flagrant fraud that churches, mosques and some charities are involved in but because of misdirected resect by the gullible masses, they ignore it.
They deny the gullible justice and protection
Regards
DL
Gnostic Christian Bishop
07-15-2015, 09:27 AM
Gnostic. You should take your own advice, or suggestion in answering the question. Since you obviously consider yourself somewhat of a DISTURBING public institution. YOU should practice what you preach, and quit lying so much...for FREE.
You bear false witness my friend.
I challenge you to show anywhere where I have lied.
That or repent for your lie.
Regards
DL
tailfins
07-15-2015, 09:46 AM
The constitution does not say that those who do not want to should pay the fair tax burden that religions misuse.
It also does not say that the government should ignore the liars and con men in religious organization who fleece the gullible.
Fraud is against the law and that is what religion is. But you go ahead and believe all the lies you like but please ask your church to get it filthy hands out of my pocket.
Regards
DL
Even a court jester can occasionally stumble across an interesting topic. Your assertion certainly fits Scientology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvEq6Gp1nT8
fj1200
07-15-2015, 09:54 AM
Intelligent people ... flagrant fraud ...
Restating a false premise does not make it true nor does wrapping it in a fallacy. :)
aboutime
07-15-2015, 02:20 PM
You bear false witness my friend.
I challenge you to show anywhere where I have lied.
That or repent for your lie.
Regards
DL
No need to accept your challenge. The mere fact that you appear here, and post your hatred proves your LIES.
Gnostic Christian Bishop
07-16-2015, 09:35 AM
No need to accept your challenge. The mere fact that you appear here, and post your hatred proves your LIES.
More false witness, Christian.
Regards
DL
NightTrain
07-16-2015, 10:35 AM
The constitution does not say that those who do not want to should pay the fair tax burden that religions misuse.
It also does not say that the government should ignore the liars and con men in religious organization who fleece the gullible.
Fraud is against the law and that is what religion is. But you go ahead and believe all the lies you like but please ask your church to get it filthy hands out of my pocket.
Regards
DL
Our Constitution does not apply you to, Canadian.
I would suggest you take your grievances to your lawmakers there in Ottawa to affect the changes you crave.
Why are you complaining to Americans about your perceived Canadian injustices?
Gunny
07-16-2015, 01:02 PM
Gnostic. You should take your own advice, or suggestion in answering the question. Since you obviously consider yourself somewhat of a DISTURBING public institution. YOU should practice what you preach, and quit lying so much...for FREE.
:laugh: So true.
Gunny
07-16-2015, 01:11 PM
The constitution does not say that those who do not want to should pay the fair tax burden that religions misuse.
It also does not say that the government should ignore the liars and con men in religious organization who fleece the gullible.
Fraud is against the law and that is what religion is. But you go ahead and believe all the lies you like but please ask your church to get it filthy hands out of my pocket.
Regards
DL
Intelligent people recognise the the flagrant fraud that churches, mosques and some charities are involved in but because of misdirected resect by the gullible masses, they ignore it.
They deny the gullible justice and protection
Regards
DL
Intelligent people see the flagrant fraud your unconstitutional government commits while ripping off our wallets. So keep YOUR filthy hands out of MY wallet.
When you decide to elect people that can read English, let me know until then, keep your f-ing state out of my church.
aboutime
07-16-2015, 02:40 PM
More false witness, Christian.
Regards
DL
The only FALSE anything here is......YOU! Funny how you continue to show all of us how Really STUPID you are. Using the typical, American Liberal Name calling....then showing your hypocrisy by always saying "Regards" is just DUMBER than a BOX OF ROCKS. Of course. That can't hurt you since YOU have rocks in your empty head.
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