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LongTermGuy
03-10-2015, 07:22 PM
`Well....well...`

File charges against the 47 U.S. Senators in violation of The Logan Act in attempting to undermine a nuclear agreement.Quote:

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On March 9th, 2015, forty-seven United States Senators committed a treasonous offense when they decided to violate the Logan Act, a 1799 law which forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.

At a time when the United States government is attempting to reach a potential nuclear agreement with the Iranian government, 47 Senators saw fit to instead issue a condescending letter to the Iranian government stating that any agreement brokered by our President would not be upheld once the president leaves office.

This is a clear violation of federal law. In attempting to undermine our own nation, these 47 senators have committed treason.

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WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/file-charges-against-47-us-senators-violation-logan-act-attempting-undermine-nuclear-agreement/NKQnpJS9)


`Let that soak in.`

LongTermGuy
03-10-2015, 07:25 PM
`Have they forgotten Pelosi in 2007?`

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`To see how thoroughly Democrats have adopted the GOP’s Bush-era authoritarian rhetoric about not “undermining the commander-in-chief,” and to see how craven is GOP behavior now on Iran, just look at what was being said in 2007 when then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi traveled to Syria and met with President Bashar Assad (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/04/world/middleeast/04cnd-pelosi.html?_r=0). The Bush administration was furious about that meeting because its strategy at the time was to isolate Assad as punishment for his alleged aid to Iraqi insurgents fighting against U.S. occupying forces, and the right-wing media and even mainstream media precincts attacked Pelosi in ways quite redolent of today’s attacks on the Senate Republicans over Iran.

In April, 2007, the Wall Street Journal published an op-ed (http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB117582330980561775) by right-wing law professor Robert Turner, headlined “Illegal Diplomacy,” declaring that “House Speaker Nancy Pelosi may well have committed a felony in traveling to Damascus this week, against the wishes of the president, to communicate on foreign-policy issues with Syrian President Bashar Assad.”

Dick Cheney called Pelosi’s trip “bad behavior” and said in an interview with Rush Limbaugh: “The president is the one who conducts foreign policy, not the speaker of the House.” Writing in National Review (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/220559/assads-speaker-eric-cantor), then-Minority Whip Eric Cantor complained that “Mrs. Pelosi usurped the executive branch’s time-honored foreign-policy authority”; “at such a critical moment in the volatile Middle East,” he inveighed, “this is no time for the United States to be sending out mixed signals to our enemies.” The right-wing extremist Congressman Steve King actually introduced legislation (http://votesmart.org/public-statement/275313/king-seeks-to-block-pelosi-travel-to-terrorist-states#.VP7of1XF9D8)to bar Pelosi from traveling to “terrorist states,” arguing:

The Speaker of the House is not the President of the United States. Nancy Pelosi does not represent the Administration. In fact, her policy positions seek to contravene the foreign policy of the United States. Nancy Pelosi, by defying the specific request of the administration to refrain from traveling to Syria, blatantly infringed upon the Constitutional duties of the President. Additionally, I believe her trip was the most blatant violation of the Logan Act by a top elected official in the history of our country. . . . Nancy Pelosi thinks it’s her job to conduct foreign policy in defiance of the President. She is wrong on the Constitution and wrong on the law.`

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THE PARTIES’ ROLE REVERSAL ON ‘INTERFERING’ WITH THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF’S FOREIGN POLICY (https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/10/gop-2007-attacks-pelosi-interfering-bushs-syria-policy-v-todays-similar-dem-attacks-iran/)


`Now......let that soak in.`

aboutime
03-10-2015, 07:28 PM
`Well....well...`

File charges against the 47 U.S. Senators in violation of The Logan Act in attempting to undermine a nuclear agreement.Quote:

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On March 9th, 2015, forty-seven United States Senators committed a treasonous offense when they decided to violate the Logan Act, a 1799 law which forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.

At a time when the United States government is attempting to reach a potential nuclear agreement with the Iranian government, 47 Senators saw fit to instead issue a condescending letter to the Iranian government stating that any agreement brokered by our President would not be upheld once the president leaves office.

This is a clear violation of federal law. In attempting to undermine our own nation, these 47 senators have committed treason.

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WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/file-charges-against-47-us-senators-violation-logan-act-attempting-undermine-nuclear-agreement/NKQnpJS9)


`Let that soak in.`



If the Obama administration already ignores, and doesn't follow the U.S.Constitution now. Who will make the Obama administration follow the Constitution on this?

The senators who sent the letter knew what they were doing. Let that soak in.

Look up the definition of TREASON, and see who it also applies to as well.

LongTermGuy
03-10-2015, 07:30 PM
`I think we're headed for a Constitutional crisis in this country...
Obama is losing control of his government.`

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"A constitutional crisis is a situation that the legal system's constitution or other basic principles of operation appear unable to resolve; it often results in a breakdown in the orderly operation of government."

Olivia
03-10-2015, 07:38 PM
Obama is reaping some of that which he hath sowen!

aboutime
03-10-2015, 07:54 PM
`I think we're headed for a Constitutional crisis in this country...
Obama is losing control of his government.`

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"A constitutional crisis is a situation that the legal system's constitution or other basic principles of operation appear unable to resolve; it often results in a breakdown in the orderly operation of government."



Truth be told. Obama has NEVER had control of OUR, or HIS government. Those around him like Mama Valerie Jarrett, and Rice are the ones instructing Obama. They are the one's pulling all the strings.
None of us should give Obama any credit for anything, other than being a WUSS who is beholden to the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Congressional Black Caucus. Even Al Sharpton has more expertise in running this nation into the ground than Obama could ever dream of...on his best GOLF trip.

LongTermGuy
03-10-2015, 08:00 PM
`I think we're headed for a Constitutional crisis in this country...
Obama is losing control of his government.`

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"A constitutional crisis is a situation that the legal system's constitution or other basic principles of operation appear unable to resolve; it often results in a breakdown in the orderly operation of government."



*This is exactly what the radical left wants....

LongTermGuy
03-10-2015, 08:28 PM
.`....here ya go...This link does an excellent job of explaining why the Logan Act doesn't apply`


.....Pelosi was wrong. The senators are correct.




http://www.lawfareblog.com/2015/03/logan-act/

aboutime
03-10-2015, 09:05 PM
.`....here ya go...This link does an excellent job of explaining why the Logan Act doesn't apply`


.....Pelosi was wrong. The senators are correct.




http://www.lawfareblog.com/2015/03/logan-act/



LongTerm. There ya go! See how pissed off Liberals get when they try to twist the facts to their favor?
Democrats DEPEND on most Uninformed Americans (like obama voters), to never bother checking for the truth.

All of the noise makers in Washington, like Pelosi. Have their ignorant heads up their ass, and that is how they survive. Thanks for posting this. I saved it to my Important Document directory.

According to the Constitution of the united States of America, Article II, Section 2, "[The president] shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; …."
Read more at
(According to the Constitution of the united States of America, Article II, Section 2, "[The president] shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; …."
Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/03/white-house-claims-senate-has-no-role-in-reviewing-iran-nuclear-treaty-constitution-says-otherwise/#XtsyzMyVdrT2TI5L.99)

http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/03/white-house-claims-senate-has-no-role-in-reviewing-iran-nuclear-treaty-constitution-says-otherwise/#XtsyzMyVdrT2TI5L.99

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-10-2015, 11:12 PM
It is bullshit charges. The Obama is going it alone to broker a bad deal without consent of two thirds Senators and they have announced to the world and the Iranian bastards that he can not just do that as if he is king.
The Obama thinks he can make foreign treaties without getting the majority approval(2/3) of the Senate.

This President himself engages in treason on a daily basis.. Fact..--Tyr

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-11-2015, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE=Tyr-Ziu Saxnot;726781]It is bullshit charges. The Obama is going it alone to broker a bad deal without consent of two thirds Senators and they have announced to the world and the Iranian bastards that he can not just do that as if he is king.
The Obama thinks he can make foreign treaties without getting the majority approval(2/3) of the Senate.

This President himself engages in treason on a daily basis.. Fact..--Tyr[/QUOTE]

You see, this is free speech. This is my right to express my opinion and dissent.
Now the dem/libs would have me shot for this if only they could get by with it! That is why they are scum and deserve their own special justice
delivered to them IMHO.
What the media and progressives/socialists keep from being common knowledge is the dem party is now full blown socialist/brownshirts...

I being a true American reject them with every molecule in my body and am perfectly willing and able to fight if need be to defend myself, my family and my country.
If a you are a dem you are ffing scum either out of ignorance, laziness and/or stupidity IMHO.--Tyr

fj1200
03-11-2015, 10:25 AM
So people on both sides can prattle on about treason and such?

Gunny
03-11-2015, 10:54 AM
`Well....well...`

File charges against the 47 U.S. Senators in violation of The Logan Act in attempting to undermine a nuclear agreement.Quote:

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On March 9th, 2015, forty-seven United States Senators committed a treasonous offense when they decided to violate the Logan Act, a 1799 law which forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.

At a time when the United States government is attempting to reach a potential nuclear agreement with the Iranian government, 47 Senators saw fit to instead issue a condescending letter to the Iranian government stating that any agreement brokered by our President would not be upheld once the president leaves office.

This is a clear violation of federal law. In attempting to undermine our own nation, these 47 senators have committed treason.

</tbody>

WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/file-charges-against-47-us-senators-violation-logan-act-attempting-undermine-nuclear-agreement/NKQnpJS9)


`Let that soak in.`

You mean like when Pelosi went to Syria durin the Bush Administration against the President's expressed wishes?

A clear violation of the Constitution is the President presuming to unilaterally make a treaty with a foreign nation. I believe that is in direct violation of the US Constitution since that authority CLEARLY resides with the legislative branch.

You want to try someone for treason? Start with the President who has lied his ass off from the get-go, and pretty much declared his administration a totalitarian government.

Gunny
03-11-2015, 10:57 AM
So people on both sides can prattle on about treason and such?

So tell me .... what charge would you levy against a President who basically has no regard for the US Constitution, and has repeatedly violated it?

fj1200
03-11-2015, 11:01 AM
So tell me .... what charge would you levy against a President who basically has no regard for the US Constitution, and has repeatedly violated it?

I don't know off the top of my head. As I mentioned in another thread we need to meet the minimum threshold of a Congress that cares.

Gunny
03-11-2015, 11:10 AM
I don't know off the top of my head. As I mentioned in another thread we need to meet the minimum threshold of a Congress that cares.

Point taken.

Congress is designed the way it is for a reason. Congressional representation was the TRUE catalyst for the US Civil War.

However, unlike the President, we actually DO put our Congressional representatives in office. No Electoral College there.

PixieStix
03-12-2015, 07:54 PM
Obama is reaping some of that which he hath sowen!

He won't reap the fullness of what he has done until Jesus comes back