Who is the King of the U.S.A.?

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Who is the King of the U.S.A.?


Oh say can you see, --- that you are an oligarchy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14SllPPLxY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14SllPPLxY)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQYA9Qjsi0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQYA9Qjsi0)

I assume here that most Americans are bright enough to know that they live in an oligarchy and not a democracy.

Do you believe that redistribution of wealth from the top to the bottom of the U.S. socio economic demographic pyramid is a good idea or a bad idea?

Do you think the American oligarchy can be turned back into a real democracy where the poor are considered instead of ignored, if not abused?

Poverty is the worst form of Violence. Mahatma Gandhi

Do you think that we can persuade our owners to stop their violence against the poor?

Which of our oligarchs would you say is the King of the U.S.A.


Should the U.S. government find its balls and ask its King to stop abusing the poor?

Regards
DL

[tailfins]

America never was nor was intended to be a democracy. It is a Constitutional Republic with inalienable rights endowed by our Creator.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

America never was nor was intended to be a democracy. It is a Constitutional Republic with inalienable rights endowed by our Creator.

Only one o is not astute would think a creator would care about giving American rights.

If the U.S. was as you describe then your vote would mean something.

It does not when you vote by what you hear and all you hear has been staged by your oligarch owners.

Regards
DL

[tailfins]

Read it for yourself:


We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Read it for yourself:



http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/

If decent your constitution would have never been amended.

Words are nothing without the deeds to go with them.

Your imaginary God is not here to enforce any rights that are abridged and thus is not giving anyone rights.

Regards
DL

[tailfins]

If decent your constitution would have never been amended.

Words are nothing without the deeds to go with them.

Your imaginary God is not here to enforce any rights that are abridged and thus is not giving anyone rights.

Regards
DL

Your posts speak for themselves, however I will use the opportunity to re-state Americanist principles.

[NightTrain]

We'll stick with our way of doing things instead of listening to a commie atheist canadian.

Thanks for asking though!

[Drummond]

If decent your constitution would have never been amended.

Words are nothing without the deeds to go with them.

Your imaginary God is not here to enforce any rights that are abridged and thus is not giving anyone rights.

Regards
DL

America has an enormous amount to be proud of, 'Gnostic'. I envy them their achievements, their standing in the world, and being true to decent, honourable principles.

You would do well to get within a light year of this yourself.

[aboutime]

Who is the King of the U.S.A.?


Oh say can you see, --- that you are an oligarchy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14SllPPLxY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14SllPPLxY)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQYA9Qjsi0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQYA9Qjsi0)

I assume here that most Americans are bright enough to know that they live in an oligarchy and not a democracy.

Do you believe that redistribution of wealth from the top to the bottom of the U.S. socio economic demographic pyramid is a good idea or a bad idea?

Do you think the American oligarchy can be turned back into a real democracy where the poor are considered instead of ignored, if not abused?

Poverty is the worst form of Violence. Mahatma Gandhi

Do you think that we can persuade our owners to stop their violence against the poor?

Which of our oligarchs would you say is the King of the U.S.A.


Should the U.S. government find its balls and ask its King to stop abusing the poor?

Regards
DL



Gnostic. Despite all your hatred, and stupidity, displayed so well, and so often here on DP.
It's ironic how the very Constitution you seem to hate so much, will never prevent You from being STUPID, or IGNORANT in your words whenever you come here.
You are protected by the very same Constitution you despise, and Ignore...just like Obama.

[gabosaurus]

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[LongTermGuy]

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[avatar4321]

Who is the King of America?

Jesus Christ.

He is a King who invites us to follow Him of our own free will.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

America has an enormous amount to be proud of, 'Gnostic'. I envy them their achievements, their standing in the world, and being true to decent, honourable principles.

You would do well to get within a light year of this yourself.

You say this while your courts are full of cases of political corruption and your own senate is cutting the legs out from under your own president.

Yep. You can keep your systems.

When Americans respect the office of the president, regardless of the color or gender of the one in that position, then you can brag.

Regards
DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Who is the King of America?

Jesus Christ.

He is a King who invites us to follow Him of our own free will.


Having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.




Christians are always trying to absolve God of moral culpability in the fall by whipping out their favorite "free will!", or “ it’s all man’s fault”.


That is "God gave us free will and it was our free willed choices that caused our fall. Hence God is not blameworthy."

But this simply avoids God's culpability as the author of Human Nature. Free will is only the ability to choose. It is not an explanation why anyone would want to choose "A" or "B" (bad or good action). An explanation for why Eve would even have the nature of "being vulnerable to being easily swayed by a serpent" and "desiring to eat a forbidden fruit" must lie in the nature God gave Eve in the first place. Hence God is culpable for deliberately making humans with a nature-inclined-to-fall, and "free will" means nothing as a response to this problem.

If all sin by nature then, the sin nature is dominant. If not, we would have at least some who would not sin.

Regards
DL

[Drummond]

You say this while your courts are full of cases of political corruption and your own senate is cutting the legs out from under your own president.

Yep. You can keep your systems.

When Americans respect the office of the president, regardless of the color or gender of the one in that position, then you can brag.

Regards
DL

You haven't got a clue, have you ?

You post as someone who's not a US citizen. Right ?

SO DO I.

I don't have a 'President', I have a Prime Minister. What I see in the US is a country under threat from certain extreme forces. Muslim terrorism is one. Subversion from its foundling path by the Left, as another.

But it, unlike my homeland, still has a passion for free thinking, free thought, and scruples that matter. It has much latitude within it to improve and shake off those forces which are ranged against it. Why ? BECAUSE SO MANY OF ITS CITIZENS ARE STILL FUNDAMENTALLY DECENT.

And ... here YOU are, with post after post, thread after thread, perpetuating your negativity.

You should rethink your position. Tell us why you post as you do. Why your chief motivation is to attack, not support that which merits support.

[aboutime]

Having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.




Christians are always trying to absolve God of moral culpability in the fall by whipping out their favorite "free will!", or “ it’s all man’s fault”.


That is "God gave us free will and it was our free willed choices that caused our fall. Hence God is not blameworthy."

But this simply avoids God's culpability as the author of Human Nature. Free will is only the ability to choose. It is not an explanation why anyone would want to choose "A" or "B" (bad or good action). An explanation for why Eve would even have the nature of "being vulnerable to being easily swayed by a serpent" and "desiring to eat a forbidden fruit" must lie in the nature God gave Eve in the first place. Hence God is culpable for deliberately making humans with a nature-inclined-to-fall, and "free will" means nothing as a response to this problem.

If all sin by nature then, the sin nature is dominant. If not, we would have at least some who would not sin.

Regards
DL




Gnostic. Do you still use the address: WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH?

[tailfins]

You haven't got a clue, have you ?

You post as someone who's not a US citizen. Right ?

SO DO I.

I don't have a 'President', I have a Prime Minister. What I see in the US is a country under threat from certain extreme forces. Muslim terrorism is one. Subversion from its foundling path by the Left, as another.

But it, unlike my homeland, still has a passion for free thinking, free thought, and scruples that matter. It has much latitude within it to improve and shake off those forces which are ranged against it. Why ? BECAUSE SO MANY OF ITS CITIZENS ARE STILL FUNDAMENTALLY DECENT.

And ... here YOU are, with post after post, thread after thread, perpetuating your negativity.

You should rethink your position. Tell us why you post as you do. Why your chief motivation is to attack, not support that which merits support.

I remind him who is REALLY his head of state, someone born overseas. He only need to pull out a $20 bill to see for himself.

http://www.citynews.ca/files/2012/11/165b2f8b4b5b97ae53c1300d3bf9-473x315.jpg

[DragonStryk72]

Having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.




Christians are always trying to absolve God of moral culpability in the fall by whipping out their favorite "free will!", or “ it’s all man’s fault”.


That is "God gave us free will and it was our free willed choices that caused our fall. Hence God is not blameworthy."

But this simply avoids God's culpability as the author of Human Nature. Free will is only the ability to choose. It is not an explanation why anyone would want to choose "A" or "B" (bad or good action). An explanation for why Eve would even have the nature of "being vulnerable to being easily swayed by a serpent" and "desiring to eat a forbidden fruit" must lie in the nature God gave Eve in the first place. Hence God is culpable for deliberately making humans with a nature-inclined-to-fall, and "free will" means nothing as a response to this problem.

If all sin by nature then, the sin nature is dominant. If not, we would have at least some who would not sin.

Regards
DL

Yeah, more moral horseshit from the guy who starts thread after thread of the stuff. It isn't in our nature to sin, but it's not in our nature to be perfectly good either. People have differing natures, so why would it ever be so simple as a simple blanket statement? Only a complete ass would try to break it down to that level.

I've seen an otherwise good man panic, and leave others to their fate, and I've seen inveterate cowards suddenly come to the unshaking defense of those they care about.

According to you, we should all be enslaved, and should shackle down our children. I mean, they could potentially do something we don't like. You demonstrate, repeatedly and at length, a desperate amount of stupidity in regards to the world around.

Why did God build a self-sustaining system? Because anyone with an ounce of sense would. I mean, really, could you even imagine having to individually work every moving part in the Universe? I mean, come on, that just shitty design. you need self-sustaining systems in any complex undertaking. As to why grant free will? Why love someone? Why do something without expecting something in return? Free will is required for growth as a person, and growth for our various cultures. Yes, there are people who do bad things, but only a childish idiot holds that up as evidence of culpability, because to be capable of good, we must understand evil as well, which means we can choose it. We have ended or marginalized most of the great evils, and we continue to improve ourselves as a species as we go. Are there growing pains, and backsteps? Of course, just as toddler learning to stand and walk will fall down again and again. That does not mean we should hobble the child, just that they are working toward a solution.

[Gunny]

You say this while your courts are full of cases of political corruption and your own senate is cutting the legs out from under your own president.

Yep. You can keep your systems.

When Americans respect the office of the president, regardless of the color or gender of the one in that position, then you can brag.

Regards
DL

Yeah? Seems like a good move to me. Cutting his head off wouldn't solve anything.

Respecting the office and disrespecting the unconstitutional dirtbag in it are teo entirely separate things. But thanks for playing.

Don't you have a photo shoot for the poster of mediocrity, btw? When I want to be a sheep, I'll move to Cana-duh.

[Bilgerat]

When Americans respect the office of the president, regardless of the color or gender of the one in that position, then you can brag.



And you were right there behind Pres. Bush, weren't you?




I didn't think so

Thanks for playing

[fj1200]

Who is the King of the U.S.A.?

Oh say can you see, --- that you are an oligarchy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14SllPPLxY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14SllPPLxY)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQYA9Qjsi0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQYA9Qjsi0)

I assume here that most Americans are bright enough to know that they live in an oligarchy and not a democracy.

Do you believe that redistribution of wealth from the top to the bottom of the U.S. socio economic demographic pyramid is a good idea or a bad idea?

Do you think the American oligarchy can be turned back into a real democracy where the poor are considered instead of ignored, if not abused?

Poverty is the worst form of Violence. Mahatma Gandhi

Do you think that we can persuade our owners to stop their violence against the poor?

Which of our oligarchs would you say is the King of the U.S.A.

Should the U.S. government find its balls and ask its King to stop abusing the poor?

If you want to discuss Carlin, Moyers, Piketty, or Krugman you should discuss Carlin, Moyers, Piketty, or Krugman and dispense with logical fallacies and rhetorical questions where you have no intention of following up. Now tailfins already corrected you on one aspect but no, redistribution of wealth by an overbearing government is not in anyone's best interest. You could help us all out and tell us how our Federal government is at the same time the most intrusive it has been in quite some time and being ruled by "oligarchs." If the poor are abused they are abused by government and not by any oligarch.

[DragonStryk72]

Who is the King of the U.S.A.?


Oh say can you see, --- that you are an oligarchy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14SllPPLxY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14SllPPLxY)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQYA9Qjsi0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQYA9Qjsi0)

So basically, nothing really all that substantial, and the second link, the guy says that we are moving in the direction of oligarchy, not that we are already there, so... yeah, you pretty much took care of your argument for me. Thanks for that, I guess.


I assume here that most Americans are bright enough to know that they live in an oligarchy and not a democracy.

oligarchy is not just rich, it's rule by a priviliged few, and thus, it can actually exist within a republic or democracy. So you don't actually know the meaning of the word you're using, and it's sort of vital to your "thesis" here.


Do you believe that redistribution of wealth from the top to the bottom of the U.S. socio economic demographic pyramid is a good idea or a bad idea?

Nope, because I have a question: Where the fuck is all of that money we've been forking over been going? 1% of the nation is paying 40% of the bills, but I can never get a straight answer on where that money is going. This isn't just you, mind, but no one, lib or con on here, seems to know really where the money's gone.


Do you think the American oligarchy can be turned back into a real democracy where the poor are considered instead of ignored, if not abused?

Um, well first off, we're not being ignored. No one ever shuts up about us, in point of fact (Evidence: Since this article, everything on income inequality, your own youtube link, and pretty much any news show).

Now, you say real democracy, but real democracy is mob rule, which our forefathers strenuous worked to keep from happening, so really, we've never been a democracy. We've always been a Republic, also referred to as representative government. Now, we've slid more toward democracy since they stopped appointing Senators, and instead elect them, but it's still indirect in many ways.


Poverty is the worst form of Violence. Mahatma Gandhi

Do you think that we can persuade our owners to stop their violence against the poor?

Ghandi would laugh himself silly at what we now consider "poverty". We have funded medical insurance for the poor and out of work, along with money specifically for food, employment and second education programs, and many states will even give you a cell phone for job-hunting. Yeah, not quite the same as Ghandi's version of poverty.

Which of our oligarchs would you say is the King of the U.S.A.


Should the U.S. government find its balls and ask its King to stop abusing the poor?

Regards
DL

[/QUOTE]

Well, we don't have a king, we have two factions that are busy squabbling like children, and they're both too intractable to accept the idea that neither side is actually correct. That has nothing to do with oligarchy, and everything to do with partisanship. Our slip in the vague direction of oligarchy spawns out of this, but, then, we've been through this before at various, and in different ways, so we'll make the course corrections needed.

[aboutime]

So basically, nothing really all that substantial, and the second link, the guy says that we are moving in the direction of oligarchy, not that we are already there, so... yeah, you pretty much took care of your argument for me. Thanks for that, I guess.



oligarchy is not just rich, it's rule by a priviliged few, and thus, it can actually exist within a republic or democracy. So you don't actually know the meaning of the word you're using, and it's sort of vital to your "thesis" here.

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Nope, because I have a question: Where the fuck is all of that money we've been forking over been going? 1% of the nation is paying 40% of the bills, but I can never get a straight answer on where that money is going. This isn't just you, mind, but no one, lib or con on here, seems to know really where the money's gone.

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Um, well first off, we're not being ignored. No one ever shuts up about us, in point of fact (Evidence: Since this article, everything on income inequality, your own youtube link, and pretty much any news show).

Now, you say real democracy, but real democracy is mob rule, which our forefathers strenuous worked to keep from happening, so really, we've never been a democracy. We've always been a Republic, also referred to as representative government. Now, we've slid more toward democracy since they stopped appointing Senators, and instead elect them, but it's still indirect in many ways.

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Ghandi would laugh himself silly at what we now consider "poverty". We have funded medical insurance for the poor and out of work, along with money specifically for food, employment and second education programs, and many states will even give you a cell phone for job-hunting. Yeah, not quite the same as Ghandi's version of poverty.

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Which of our oligarchs would you say is the King of the U.S.A.


Should the U.S. government find its balls and ask its King to stop abusing the poor?

Regards
DL



Well, we don't have a king, we have two factions that are busy squabbling like children, and they're both too intractable to accept the idea that neither side is actually correct. That has nothing to do with oligarchy, and everything to do with partisanship. Our slip in the vague direction of oligarchy spawns out of this, but, then, we've been through this before at various, and in different ways, so we'll make the course corrections needed.[/QUOTE]



Dragon. Most of us already knew, and understood Gnosticdiot is nothing but a hate filled, trouble making troll who will never be happy until everyone is as Miserable, and Plain Stupid as he is. End of message. BT AR

[Gunny]

So basically, nothing really all that substantial, and the second link, the guy says that we are moving in the direction of oligarchy, not that we are already there, so... yeah, you pretty much took care of your argument for me. Thanks for that, I guess.



oligarchy is not just rich, it's rule by a priviliged few, and thus, it can actually exist within a republic or democracy. So you don't actually know the meaning of the word you're using, and it's sort of vital to your "thesis" here.

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]

Nope, because I have a question: Where the fuck is all of that money we've been forking over been going? 1% of the nation is paying 40% of the bills, but I can never get a straight answer on where that money is going. This isn't just you, mind, but no one, lib or con on here, seems to know really where the money's gone.

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]

Um, well first off, we're not being ignored. No one ever shuts up about us, in point of fact (Evidence: Since this article, everything on income inequality, your own youtube link, and pretty much any news show).

Now, you say real democracy, but real democracy is mob rule, which our forefathers strenuous worked to keep from happening, so really, we've never been a democracy. We've always been a Republic, also referred to as representative government. Now, we've slid more toward democracy since they stopped appointing Senators, and instead elect them, but it's still indirect in many ways.

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]

Ghandi would laugh himself silly at what we now consider "poverty". We have funded medical insurance for the poor and out of work, along with money specifically for food, employment and second education programs, and many states will even give you a cell phone for job-hunting. Yeah, not quite the same as Ghandi's version of poverty.

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Which of our oligarchs would you say is the King of the U.S.A.


Should the U.S. government find its balls and ask its King to stop abusing the poor?

Regards
DL



Well, we don't have a king, we have two factions that are busy squabbling like children, and they're both too intractable to accept the idea that neither side is actually correct. That has nothing to do with oligarchy, and everything to do with partisanship. Our slip in the vague direction of oligarchy spawns out of this, but, then, we've been through this before at various, and in different ways, so we'll make the course corrections needed.[/QUOTE]

F*ck Ghandi. Let ME be *King*. Got to draw a line somewhere, right?

Get out if you don't don't belong. Go live in your retarded world.

At the same time, the loser asshats in our world might want to spend time fixing US instead of trying to tell others what they should think.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Thanks for the interesting comments.

Regards
DL