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revelarts
02-03-2015, 12:12 PM
Tennessee Bill Would Prohibit Ownership And Use of Military Hardware By Law Enforcement Agencies
http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/article/123670/bill-would-ban-use-of-military-items-for-tennessee-law-enforcement-agencies
http://www.truthandaction.org/tennessee-bill-prohibit-ownership-use-military-hardware-law-enforcement-agencies/



Last Thursday, Sen. Brian Kelsey (R-TN), filed Senate Bill 39, which would prohibit law enforcement agencies from owning or using vehicles or weapons that were once used for military purposes.“Traditionally, America has had a clear separation between the military and the police to ensure we remain in a free democracy,” Kelsey stated. “I think we can support both our police officers and our citizens by ensuring that our police officers are not viewed as the enemy. This bill is an important step in that direction.”
Local law enforcement has certainly been inundated with weapons of war and this practice by the DOD continues unabated (http://www.truthandaction.org/washington-times-military-hardware-still-flowing-local-law-enforcement/). Why would local law enforcement and local school districts (http://www.truthandaction.org/pentagon-arms-local-school-districts-across-country/)need such things as MRAPs (http://www.truthandaction.org/flordia-county-gets-mrap-armored-vehicle/) and bayonets (http://www.truthandaction.org/rand-paul-local-police-need-bayonets/)?
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The bill reads, “No law enforcement agency shall own or use a military vehicle, military aircraft, or military weaponry for any law enforcement purposes.” While it would prohibit law enforcement agencies from owning and using any and all vehicles, aircraft and crew-served weaponry — a weapon that requires more than one person to operate — it would exempt certain weapons — such as “magazine-fed, gas-operated, air-cooled rifles designed for semiautomatic or automatic fire,” which would include M16 and AR-15 rifles — from proscription.
Although Kelsey said he did not speak to law enforcement personnel before introducing the legislation, he added he hoped the bill would be used as a way to begin that conversation.
“I will be speaking with law enforcement agencies throughout Tennessee about this bill,” Kelsey said. “Drafting and filing this bill is the beginning of that conversation. I’m certainly open to any suggestions they have on the issue.”
Local law enforcement officials expressed some misgivings regarding that issue, however. Although he said he hadn’t read the bill, Carter County Sheriff’s Department Chief Deputy James Parrish — whose previous position was as a lieutenant colonel in the Army — said he thought it may have been drafted for political or conversational purposes instead of legislative ones.
“What he’s trying to do is provoke comment,” Parrish said. “I’m sure the gentleman means well. But we would be hesitant to comment on something designed to provoke controversy. If it gains traction, we’ll talk about it at that time.”
Other local law enforcement officials had concerns over the potential loss of equipment that could be wrought from the bill. Johnson City Police Chief Mark Sirois — whose department has participated in a federal program aimed at supplying military equipment to local law enforcement agencies for more than 20 years — said the loss of military vehicles could affect the safety of his officers, and the public, in certain situations.
“Since certain vehicles are prohibited in the proposed bill — vehicles that we feel are of potential value to our community’s safety for defensive purposes in a critical situation — we would be at a disadvantage if we need the vehicles and didn’t have them,” Sirois said, in an email communication.
On April 7, Johnson City police were involved in a 13-hour standoff at 1255 Snowden Terrace. During that standoff, Sirois said, police used armor-plated Hummers — which were supplied by the federal military equipment program — to protect themselves from potential gunfire.
“In a situation like that, the absence of those types of vehicles could be dangerous … for civilians and for the officers,” he said.

While Kelsey’s bill has been introduced in the state Senate, it has yet to acquire a co-sponsor in the state House. Kelsey said he was still working on finding a representative to sponsor the bill.


Well it's a conversation starter but i wonder if people will support it.
I wonder if it will finally be spun as just "anti-police".

darin
02-03-2015, 01:23 PM
duh. of COURSE it will be 'anti-police'.

The lying pieces of crap who are elected by idiots do that all the time.


F'in Barry can present a bill calling for the execution of every person older than 50. He names it "Protecting our Seniors" bills. People oppose it...He spins "How DARE you oppose the protect our seniors bill! You are ANTI-SENIOR! Agist! Age-o-phobe! When you oppose this bill you contribute to our DEBT! You are anti-American!"

The idiot population now calls their officials who try to explain - but the idiot population will have nothing of it! They want the bill PASSED! We can find out what is in the bill AFTER we pass it.


No hope.

gabosaurus
02-03-2015, 02:51 PM
So law enforcement officers are being denied their Second Amendment rights?

darin
02-03-2015, 03:19 PM
you're dumb.

:)

aboutime
02-03-2015, 03:22 PM
What a wonderful idea? Rev. Hope you support this, and help to get laws like this passed.


Then; when someone bothers you, attacks you, enters your home uninvited, and threatens you and your family.

You should be very happy to know. If, and when LEO's arrive. They will be UNARMED, since ammunition is considered Military hardware, as are Night Sticks, Taser's, and Shotgun's that fire Beanbags.

enjoy starting this conversation.

Jeff
02-03-2015, 03:25 PM
So law enforcement officers are being denied their Second Amendment rights?


you're dumb.

:)

No she isn't, she has two degree's :laugh:

NightTrain
02-03-2015, 03:32 PM
No she isn't, she has two degree's :laugh:

From SoCal.

It's very prestigious, you know.

Jeff
02-03-2015, 03:53 PM
From SoCal.

It's very prestigious, you know.


Yes I know :rofl1:How could anyone forget. :laugh:


Have to spread them, that cracked me up. :laugh:

revelarts
02-03-2015, 03:57 PM
So law enforcement officers are being denied their Second Amendment rights?

You know I always say if the Gov't can have it so can every citizen. if that's where you want to go Gabby,
the arms are bought by the citizens of the U.S.. if the military's giving them away, pass them out equally among the population.
well regulated militia ... the people.
Terrorist, the Chinese, Russian who ever, would think 1000 times before they showed up on U.S. soil with a fully militarized population.
Neighborhood tank corps, 50-cals on the school roofs manned by teachers and parents, students trained ready to go.

there, you feel better?

Jeff
02-03-2015, 04:03 PM
You know I always say if the Gov't can have it so can every citizen. if that's where you want to go Gabby,
the arms are bought by the citizens of the U.S.. if the military's giving them away, pass them out equally among the population.
well regulated militia ... the people.
Terrorist, the Chinese, Russian who ever, would think 1000 times before they showed up on US. soil with a fully militarized population. Neighborhood tank corps, 50-cals on the school roofs manned by teachers and parents, students trained ready to go.

there you feel better?

The public can buy certain military weapons, fully automatic weapons and such, the cost for the permit knocks most out of ever obtaining them but as you stated Rev certain weapons no, I don't know of anyone allowed no matter what kind of permits they have that can own them.

aboutime
02-03-2015, 06:05 PM
No she isn't, she has two degree's :laugh:


Jeff. Don't forget. Despite gabby's bragging rights for having 2 degree's.

All of us also have a degree. Normally, it's 98.6.

Being book, or school smart still doesn't mean dumb is out of the picture for them.:laugh:

gabosaurus
02-03-2015, 09:20 PM
Being book, or school smart still doesn't mean dumb is out of the picture for them.

Have to agree. Dumb is best defined by those who are experts at being dumb.

aboutime
02-03-2015, 09:24 PM
Have to agree. Dumb is best defined by those who are experts at being dumb.


Thanks for being the expert we all depend upon to explain such things gabby.