Form of Politics

[AxSxT]

Is a Government a Form of Politics?

[jimnyc]

Is a Government a Form of Politics?

I'll bite prior to the minimum amount of posts before spa....

Here in the USA it is. I'm not familiar with places like Kazakhstan. Is their government a form of politics?

[hjmick]

Is government a form of politics? Or is government, and the decisions it renders, influenced by politics? I believe it is the latter

[NightTrain]

Pretty odd question.

I'd say government is the result of politics.

[aboutime]

pol·i·tics
ˈpäləˌtiks/Submit
noun
the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.
"the president's relationship with Congress is vital to American politics"
synonyms: government, affairs of state, public affairs; diplomacy
"a career in politics"
the activities of governments concerning the political relations between countries.
plural noun: politics
"in the conduct of global politics, economic status must be backed by military capacity"
the academic study of government and the state.
"a politics lecturer"
synonyms: political science, civics, statecraft
"she studies politics"

[Abbey Marie]

I'd say politics is the bastard child of government.

[aboutime]

Authentic Will Rogers quotes on Politics
DT and WA refer to newspaper columns:
DT = Daily Telegram; WA = Weekly Article

"I'm not a member of any organized political party.... I'm a Democrat."
"Democrats never agree on anything, that's why they're Democrats. If they agreed with each other, they'd be Republicans."
"There is only one redeeming thing about this whole election. It will be over at sundown, and let everybody pray that it's not a tie, for we couldn't go through with this thing again.

And, when the votes are counted, let everybody, including the candidates, get into a good humor as quick as they got into a bad one.

Both gangs have been bad sports, so see if at least one can't redeem themselves by offering no alibis, but cooperate with the winner, for no matter which one it is the poor fellow is going to need it.

So cheer up. Let's all be friends again. One of the evils of democracy is you have to put up with the man you elect whether you want him or not. That's why we call it democracy." DT #1953, Nov. 7, 1932
"If you ever injected truth into politics you have no politics" WA # 31, July 15, 1923
"Politics has got so expensive that it takes lots of money to even get beat with nowadays." DT #1538, June 28, 1931
"Politics pretty quiet over the week-end. Democrats are attacking and the Republicans are defending. All the Democrats have to do is promise "what they would do if they got in." But the Republicans have to promise "what they would do" and then explain why they haven't already "done it."

I do honestly believe the Republicans have reformed and want to do better. But whether they have done it in time to win the election is another thing. The old voter is getting so he wants to be saved before October every election year." DT #1917, Sept. 26, 1932
"This country has gotten where it is in spite of politics, not by the aid of it. That we have carried as much political bunk as we have and still survived shows we are a super nation." DT #1948, Nov. 1, 1932
[Randall Reeder gives a lot of talks as "Will Rogers" that are entertaining and help people feel good about who they are and what they do. Email or call him to ask about speaking to your group, association or convention: willrogers@aol.com 614-477-0439 (cell)]

"I would love to see Mr. (Henry) Ford in there, really. I don't know who started the idea that a President must be a Politician instead of a Business man. A Politician can't run any other kind of business. So there is no reason why he can run the U.S. That's the biggest single business in the World." WA #5, January 14, 1923
"I make a living off (politicians), so I can't knock 'em. Every time we elect some fellow we think he's terrible and then when we get another one in he's worse. So, I am always in favor of keeping the one we've got and let the other go." NBC Radio, May 16, 1932 (Pomona, CA)
"When you straddle a thing it takes a long time to explain it." Convention Articles, June 29, 1924
"America has the best politicians money can buy." (Undated notes)
"Coolidge made less speeches and got more votes than any man that ever run. (William Jennings) Bryan was listened to and cheered by more people than any single human in politics, and he lost. So there is a doubt just whether talking does you good or harm." DT #673, Sept. 21, 1928
"Congress is so strange; a man gets up to speak and says nothing, nobody listens, and then everybody disagrees."
"Congress meets tomorrow morning. Let us all pray: Oh Lord, give us strength to bear that which is about to be inflicted upon us. Be merciful with them, oh Lord, for they know not what they're doing. Amen."
"We all joke about Congress but we can't improve on them. Have you noticed that no matter who we elect, he is just as bad as the one he replaces?"
"I read where they are going to limit debate in the Senate. It used to be that a man could talk all day, but now, as soon as he tells all he knows, he has to sit down. Most of these birds will just be getting up and nodding now. Why, some of them won't be able to answer roll call."
"We cuss Congress, and we joke about 'em, but they are all good fellows at heart, and if they wasn't in Congress, why, they would be doing something else against us that might be even worse."
"Now these fellows in Washington wouldn't be so serious and particular if they only had to vote on what they thought was good for the majority of the people in the U.S. That would be a cinch. But what makes it hard for them is every time a bill comes up they have things to decide that have nothing to do with the merit of the bill. The principal thing is of course: What will this do for me personally back home?"
"The "Ways & Means Committee" is a committee that's supposed to find the Ways to divide up the Means."
"Never blame a legislative body for not doing something. When they do nothing, they don't hurt anybody. When they do something is when they become dangerous."
"The Senate just sits and waits till they find out what the president wants, so they know how to vote against him."
"In Washington, one man could do what ten of them do. There could be only a quarter or a third as many congressmen or senators, and we would pick better ones then. But it's the system that we have always used, and there is no use getting all overcome with perspiration over it. Things kinder run themselves, anyhow."
"Senators are a never-ending source of amusement, amazement, and discouragement."
"Funny thing about being a U.S. senator, the only thing the law says you have to be is 30 years old. Not another single requirement. They just figure that a man that old got nobody to blame but himself if he gets caught in there."
"Our president delivered his State of the Union message to Congress. That is one of the things his contract calls for -- to tell congress the condition of the country. This message, as I say, is to Congress. The rest of the people know the condition of the country, for they live in it, but Congress has no idea what is going on in America, so the president has to tell 'em."
"A president just can't make much showing against congress. They lay awake nights, thinking up things to be against the president on."
"You know Lincoln's famous remark about "God must have loved the common people, because he made so many of them?" Well, you are not going to get people's votes nowadays by calling 'em common. Lincoln might have said it, but I bet it was not until after he was elected."
"There wasn't any Republicans in Washington's day. No Republicans, no Boll Weevil, no income tax, no cover charge, no disarmament conference, no luncheon clubs, no stop lights, no static, no head winds. My Lord, living in those days, who wouldn't be great?"
"The Democrats and the Republicans are equally corrupt where money is concerned. It's only in the amount where the Republicans excel."
"It's getting so if a man wants to stand well socially, he can't afford to be seen with either the Democrats or the Republicans."
"Their greatest trait to recommend the Democrats is optimism and humor. You've got to be an optimist to be a Democrat, and you've got to be a humorist to stay one."
"There is something about a Republican that you can only stand him just so long; and on the other hand, there is something about a Democrat that you can't stand him quite that long."
"Democrats never agree on anything, that's why they're Democrats. If they agreed with each other, they would be Republicans."
"A politician is not as narrow-minded as he forces himself to be."
"Everything is changing. People are taking their comedians seriously, and the politicians as a joke, when it used to be vice versa."
"Say, did you read what this writer just dug up in George Washington's diary? I was so ashamed I sat up all night reading it."
"Many a politician wishes there was a law to burn old records."
"A politician is just like a pickpocket; it's almost impossible to get one to reform."
"Politics is the best show in America. I love animals and I love politicians, and I like to watch both of 'em at play, either back home in their native state, or after they've been captured and sent to a zoo, or to Washington."
"The difference between a Republican and a Democrat is the Democrat is a cannibal. They have to live off each other, while the Republicans, why, they live off the Democrats."
"There's no trick to being a humorist when you have the entire government working for you."
"A Republican moves slowly. They are what we call conservatives. A conservative is a man who has plenty of money and doesn't see any reason why he shouldn't always have plenty of money. A Democrat is a fellow who never had any, but doesn't see any reason why he shouldn't have some."
“Funny to watch these Senators switching back and forth on Prohibition. Politics is a great character builder. You have to take a referendum to see what your convictions are for that day.” May 29, 1930

[Drummond]

Politics is the means by which political opinion finds meaningful expression.

Some favour Left-wing political thought. Some favour the Right. Politics is the outcome of where each leads - from the formation of Parties to represent each brand of thinking, to all the 'politicking' that follows, from manifesto creation, to canvassing, to ultimate power .. whereupon the REAL politics kicks off !

I deliberately avoided saying 'practical expression' in the first sentence. I had to, because the Left isn't concerned with practicalities .. much though they should be. To them, 'meaningful expression' is crafting a form of propaganda and conning the electorate into swallowing it.

Government is just the end result of political ambition being realised.