The resounding bullshit of the Idiot-In-Chief still resounds

[Psychoblues]

I can't believe it!!!!!!!!



NEW YORK Nearly six years after the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the U.S., better than 4 in 10 Americans still wrongly believe that Saddam Hussein was involved in planning or carrying out the actions. Surprisingly, that number has even risen in the past two years, according to a Newsweek poll.

The belief that Saddam had something to do with 9/11, which was endorsed by Vice President Cheney and other Bush administration officials, was seen as a prime reason for broad public support for the attack on Iraq in 2003. Some have suggested that the media did not do enough to dispel this myth. President Bush and Cheney have belatedly declared that Iraq actually had nothing to do with it.

A Newsweek poll in September 2004 showed that 36% believed "Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq was directly involved in planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001." Now the number in the same poll is 41%.

In a separate question, 20% said that "most" of the 9/11 hijackers came from Iraq. The correct answer, Saudi Arabia, was chosen by 43%.

More: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003602869


Surely 4 of 10 Americans are not that stupid!!!!!!!!!!!

[avatar4321]

still trying to lie about things huh? Bush and Cheney never said Saddam was responsible for 9/11. You libs really need to stop beating this straw man.

[Psychoblues]

No straw man here, '21.


still trying to lie about things huh? Bush and Cheney never said Saddam was responsible for 9/11. You libs really need to stop beating this straw man.

Where did 72% of the American populace get the idea from?

[JimmyAteWorld]

No straw man here, '21.



Where did 72% of the American populace get the idea from?


The resounding bullshit of the Psychoblues still resounds

There, I fixed that for ya.

It comes as no shock that your taking an ounce of fact and turning it into a pound of bullshit. Not once did anyone in the Bush administration say that Saddam was directly responsible for the 9/11 attack. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Not sure where you're getting that 72%, but the 41% that believe he was involved in some way is largely based on fact and simple common sense, which I do realize you have problems with both.

People from Saddam's government met with members of al-Qaeda as far back as '96, and there were training camps in Iraq. Two weeks before the 9/11 attacks, Saddam placed his troops on their highest military alert since the Gulf War and beefed up air defense. Saddam himself retreated to a bunker in Tikrit. There's also the fact that Saddam had openly given money to terrorists in the past, and this nifty little mural that was found after Marines took Baghdad. These are all simple facts.

http://photos.imageevent.com/djnuggins/stuff/Irag%20Mural.jpg

A lot of people think Saddam was involved in some way because he probably was.

[Hagbard Celine]

A lot of people think Saddam was involved in some way because he probably was.
Oh really? Is that wut yer gut tells ya?

[theHawk]

Oh really? Is that wut yer gut tells ya?


Did you read the rest of his post? Or do you libs just automatically block out statements that go against your train of thought?

[JimmyAteWorld]

Oh really? Is that wut yer gut tells ya?

:blues:....

People from Saddam's government met with members of al-Qaeda as far back as '96, and there were training camps in Iraq. Two weeks before the 9/11 attacks, Saddam placed his troops on their highest military alert since the Gulf War and beefed up air defense. Saddam himself retreated to a bunker in Tikrit. There's also the fact that Saddam had openly given money to terrorists in the past, and that nifty little mural above (I won't bother reposting it) that was found after Marines took Baghdad.

Oh, by the way, there is also that unmanned U.S. spy plane that was shot down on the morning of September 11. That was buried by a slightly bigger story a few hours later.

If you want to take all that and say it's "wut my gut tells me", fine by me. I call it adding 2+2 and coming up with 4.

[Pale Rider]

I can't believe it!!!!!!!!



NEW YORK Nearly six years after the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the U.S., better than 4 in 10 Americans still wrongly believe that Saddam Hussein was involved in planning or carrying out the actions. Surprisingly, that number has even risen in the past two years, according to a Newsweek poll.

The belief that Saddam had something to do with 9/11, which was endorsed by Vice President Cheney and other Bush administration officials, was seen as a prime reason for broad public support for the attack on Iraq in 2003. Some have suggested that the media did not do enough to dispel this myth. President Bush and Cheney have belatedly declared that Iraq actually had nothing to do with it.

A Newsweek poll in September 2004 showed that 36% believed "Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq was directly involved in planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001." Now the number in the same poll is 41%.

In a separate question, 20% said that "most" of the 9/11 hijackers came from Iraq. The correct answer, Saudi Arabia, was chosen by 43%.

More: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003602869


Surely 4 of 10 Americans are not that stupid!!!!!!!!!!!


Ya know what? This article is about as stupid and relevant at this point as an article disputing how deep slick willie cigar fucked monica in the Oval Office and then lied about it.

SShhheezuz.... get a life.

[Kathianne]

Ya know what? This article is about as stupid and relevant at this point as an article disputing how deep slick willie cigar fucked monica in the Oval Office and then lied about it.

SShhheezuz.... get a life.

Agreed, not looking at who the poster was, I thought it was going to be about this:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ODU1YWMyN2M4MWY0OWViMTBkMzY0MTM1Yjg1NGY5ZTQ=


June 28, 2007, 0:00 p.m.

Radical Outreach
Bush coddles American apologists for radical Islam

By Steve Emerson

At Wednesday’s rededication ceremony of the Saudi-funded Islamic Center of Washington, D.C., President Bush missed a perfect opportunity to repudiate apologism for radical Islam, and instead announced his latest plan to get the Muslim world to stop hating America: appoint a special envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC).

Bush praised the OIC, saying, “We admire and thank those Muslims who have denounced what the Secretary General of the OIC called ‘radical fringe elements who pretend that they act in the name of Islam.’” The special envoy’s mission, Bush said, would be to “listen and learn” to OIC ambassadors.

While this may sound nice, it is rooted in complete ignorance of the rampant radicalism, pro-terrorist, and anti-American sentiments routinely found in statements by the OIC and its leaders, including referring to “Islamophobia” — and not the mass slaughter of innocents in the name of Islam — the “worst form of terrorism,” as OIC did last May.

In 2002, the OIC published its “Declaration on International Terrorism.” Therein, the authors stated, amongst other outrageous claims, that there was no such thing as Palestinian terrorism, writing, “We reject any attempt to associate Islamic states or Palestinian and Lebanese resistance with terrorism.” To the OIC, groups like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, and Hezbollah are not terrorists, but “freedom fighters.”

This is just the beginning of a litany of the OIC’s wrongs.In March 2006, OIC General Secretary Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu embraced Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal at a press conference at OIC’s headquarters. Ihsanoglu whitewashed: “With its win, Hamas begins a new stage in the development of the Palestinian issue. We assure that Hamas will deal with all national and international requirements in a practical and logical way.”

At a “special session” of the OIC in August of the same year, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for “the elimination of the Zionist regime,” a statement that OIC failed to condemn. Moreover, the OIC has repeatedly backed Iran’s nuclear ambitions. As Ishanoglu said in April, “All member states of the OIC and I have obviously supported Iran's right to access peaceful nuclear technology,” despite clear indications that the Iranian regime’s uranium-enrichment program is designed chiefly to make nuclear weapons.

And then, there is OIC’s explaining away of the 9/11 attacks, which “expressed the frustration, disappointment, and disillusion that are festering deep in the Muslims’ soul towards the aggressions and discriminations committed by the West.”

These are the people that President Bush feels the need to “listen and learn” from. And the Bush administration’s wishful thinking extends beyond his feelings toward the OIC, to the very location where Bush was giving his speech.

The 2005 Freedom House report on the Saudi-led radicalization of American mosques specifically identifies the Washington Islamic Center as a hotbed of hatred. In the past decade, I personally collected numerous copies of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion from the mosque. The Freedom House report chronicles the center’s extremism: imams instructed their students to distance themselves from the West, forbade Muslim students from wearing the traditional cap and gown at during University graduation, and warned that participating in American holidays was the “most dangerous form of imitating the unbelievers, the most destructive and the most prevalent among the Muslims.”

The center’s library included a Saudi text book for 11th graders that described “the role of the Jews in the corruption of the European way of life,” and that Jews used “innocuous-sounding themes as ‘progress and civilization’ or ‘individual freedom’ to destroy Europe.”

There are many more examples in the report. Unfortunately, the President’s lack of awareness is not limited to the OIC and the Washington Islamic Center, but also to the officials of the so-called “moderate” Muslim organizations whom the FBI, Department of Justice, Defense Department, and Department of State routinely invite to meetings and hearings.

In his speech, Bush said, “This enemy falsely claims that America is at war with Muslims and the Muslim faith, when in fact it is these radicals who are Islam's true enemy.” Yet that very talking point is the refuge of America’s supposedly mainstream Muslim organizations like the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) and the Islamic Society of North American (ISNA).

In March 2002, in response to an FBI raid of Islamist organizations in Northern Virginia, CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad said, “This is a war against Islam and Muslims… Our administration has the burden of proving otherwise.” In February 2004, MPAC Vice Chairman Aslam Abdullah said, “in the name of the ‘war on terror,’ Islam and Muslims have become a target in America and elsewhere,” and in June 2004 Abdullah accused President Bush of engaging in “a religious and racist agenda and prejudice against Islam, Muslims, and Arabs.” In 2004, Louay Safi, a top ISNA official, went further, writing that the “assertion by ‘world leaders’ that the war on terrorism is not a war on Islam is nothing but a piece of propaganda and disinformation that was meant to appease Western Muslims and to maintain the coalition against terrorism.”

Meanwhile, Bush’s own Justice Department recently formally named CAIR and ISNA as Muslim Brotherhood–front groups, listing them as unindicted co-conspirators in the largest terrorist financing case in U.S. history, against the Holy Land Foundation, an alleged Hamas front group.

In his wrongheaded outreach to the OIC, the president aligns with those who think the West is responsible for Islamic terrorism. Bush himself has said we “abandoned Muslims in the Middle East to tyrants and terrorists.” Yet Wahhabism was born in the 18th century, long before Western colonialism in the Middle East and the resulting appointment of despotic rulers. It was the fascist Muslim Brotherhood that gave birth to terrorist groups like al Qaeda and Hamas, and it is the absence of a reformation that keeps the Muslim world boiling and in regression.

Unfortunately, despite his best intentions, the president gave the wrong speech at the wrong time. Perhaps the most telling indicator of his error was the fact that hours after his speech, CAIR, the un-indicted co-conspirator in the Hamas case in Dallas, congratulated the president on the appointment of a representative to OIC. With friends like these, who needs enemies?

— Steve Emerson is executive director of the Investigative Project on Terrorism,

More on OIC, links at site:


Thursday, June 28, 2007
Media Fail to Inform Public About OIC

In all the mainstream media articles about President Bush’s announcement that he’s appointing an envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference, not a single one actually looks at the history and statements of this hate-filled Islamic group, whose charter explicitly states that it was formed to help implement the destruction of Israel.

Case in point: this is how the Washington Post describes the OIC: Bush Plans Envoy To Islamic Nations.


The creation of the post will mark the first time a U.S. president has designated an envoy to the 38-year-old organization, which promotes Islamic solidarity and cooperation.

I guess it would just be too difficult for these journalists to actually do some research and find out what the OIC really promotes. They’ve even covered it themselves in the past, but now seem to have forgotten about Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamed’s statement that “Jews rule the world by proxy” and Muslims must unite to find a way to wipe them out: Speech by Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad of Malaysia to the Tenth Islamic Summit Conference.

Or they could just search LGF, for years of stories about the hate speech and support for murder and jihad for which the Organization of the Islamic Conference is infamous: LGF search: “Islamic Conference”.

Our mainstream media: making sure the public stays ignorant. (But we know every detail about Paris Hilton’s field trip to jail.)

Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 8:41:11 am PST

[Pale Rider]

Agreed, not looking at who the poster was, I thought it was going to be about this:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ODU1YWMyN2M4MWY0OWViMTBkMzY0MTM1Yjg1NGY5ZTQ=

More on OIC, links at site:

I'm sincerely fed up with this President.

[Psychoblues]

Even considering all the bullshit as espoused by the MSM and the supporters of his sorry ass that tend to post on this site?




I'm sincerely fed up with this President.

I don't know what to think about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gabosaurus]

PB, judging by your threads of this evening, that must be a primo bowl you are smoking tonight.

[Psychoblues]

Sorry 'bout that, gabby. I do Pall Mall Light 100's. I never did the bowl thing even though I was only inches from it for many, many years.



PB, judging by your threads of this evening, that must be a primo bowl you are smoking tonight.

Have I done a thread this evening? I thought I was only posting on other threads!!!!!!!! Goes to show what a few Busch beers might cause me to forget!!!!!!!!!!!