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Why would any nurse or aid want to take the chance of getting infected and having their house or apartment "cleaned" and their personal items removed and disposed of? I can't imagine anyone voluntarily putting that on the line...considering the consequences if they catch it.
They basically gutted the Duncan apartment. Could you deal with government coming in and removing/taking all of your possessions for incineration? I sure as hell couldn't. And won't that fear deter folks from coming forward if or when they suspect that they have the virus now? Have pets? Got Ebola? You should know that your pets will be at risk of death too...since who is going to want to adopt them?
I heard the Dallas nurse's apartment has been "sanitized" and that her pup is going to be taken care of vs. being euthanized. That's nice. But will that be the case for everyone that catches Ebola? I doubt it.
More "supposedly" unintended consequences being revealed almost daily in the Obamanation.
Ebola apartment items hauled away to be destroyed
DALLAS<!-- EndDateLine --> (AP) — The items removed by a decontamination crew from the Dallas apartment where an Ebola patient was staying have been hauled away for disposal.
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-->Dallas city spokeswoman Sana Syed said that about 30 barrels were filled Friday with items including bed sheets, towels and three mattresses used by Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan before he was hospitalized. They were hauled away Friday night.
She said that next, everything else in the house will be disposed of.
Duncan, who traveled to Dallas from Liberia last month, had been staying in the apartment before being diagnosed. Officials moved four people who had been quarantined there after Duncan's hospitalization to another location Friday, and they left personal items behind.
Syed says the city and county will work with charities and volunteers to help the family refurnish their apartment.
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2014/Some-items-from-Ebola-apartment-hauled-away-for-disposal,-rest-to-be-destroyed/id-f6e53629dce0482999d22c2fbf712bb6
fj1200
10-14-2014, 08:19 AM
Why would any nurse or aid want to take the chance of getting infected and having their house or apartment "cleaned" and their personal items removed and disposed of? I can't imagine anyone voluntarily putting that on the line...considering the consequences if they catch it.
Because they understand that the job involves certain risks and that they undertook their chosen profession to help those in need. I'm also sure they understand what they're getting in to and are capable of analyzing the situation rationally without running around like their hair is on fire. Good on them.
Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
10-14-2014, 08:34 AM
Why would any nurse or aid want to take the chance of getting infected and having their house or apartment "cleaned" and their personal items removed and disposed of? I can't imagine anyone voluntarily putting that on the line...considering the consequences if they catch it.
They basically gutted the Duncan apartment. Could you deal with government coming in and removing/taking all of your possessions for incineration? I sure as hell couldn't. And won't that fear deter folks from coming forward if or when they suspect that they have the virus now? Have pets? Got Ebola? You should know that your pets will be at risk of death too...since who is going to want to adopt them?
I heard the Dallas nurse's apartment has been "sanitized" and that her pup is going to be taken care of vs. being euthanized. That's nice. But will that be the case for everyone that catches Ebola? I doubt it.
More "supposedly" unintended consequences being revealed almost daily in the Obamanation.
Ebola apartment items hauled away to be destroyed
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-->Dallas city spokeswoman Sana Syed said that about 30 barrels were filled Friday with items including bed sheets, towels and three mattresses used by Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan before he was hospitalized. They were hauled away Friday night.
She said that next, everything else in the house will be disposed of.
Duncan, who traveled to Dallas from Liberia last month, had been staying in the apartment before being diagnosed. Officials moved four people who had been quarantined there after Duncan's hospitalization to another location Friday, and they left personal items behind.
Syed says the city and county will work with charities and volunteers to help the family refurnish their apartment.
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2014/Some-items-from-Ebola-apartment-hauled-away-for-disposal,-rest-to-be-destroyed/id-f6e53629dce0482999d22c2fbf712bb6
As Jesse Jackson and other black race baiters make the dead man out to be a hero that was mistreated because he was black. The truth is he should have been executed for bringing in deliberately this potential epidemic!
That man put his life ahead on over 350 million Americans and put this nation in peril out of his desire to get better care.
Ebola did what our court system would not have done, myself I say it was perfect justice..
SOB lied and endangered millions .. he got what he deserved IMHO..-Tyr
Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
10-14-2014, 08:38 AM
Because they understand that the job involves certain risks and that they undertook their chosen profession to help those in need. I'm also sure they understand what they're getting in to and are capable of analyzing the situation rationally without running around like their hair is on fire. Good on them.
No, this disease was brought here by a selfish piece of shit and I do NOT blame any healthcare worker that understands the government, Obama and others allowed it to happen. They all should refuse to help . And go on strike to make their point about what Obama has done IMHO. As Obama refuses to stop flights to and from those infected nation!! And that is either insanity or deliberate hate of ALL Americans on his part, I suspect both apply .--TYR
fj1200
10-14-2014, 08:50 AM
:rolleyes:
... their hair is on fire.
:dunno:
jimnyc
10-14-2014, 09:05 AM
I know we're unlikely to find out, but I wish I knew specifics as to how the healthcare worker contracted the disease, or others that were following CDC guidelines. "IF" they were all being followed, and someone caught it anyway, you'd be hard pressed to find a level of money to give me in order to assist. I'm far from ready to say it's morphed into an airborne virus, otherwise many, many more would be infected. And shit, if one of the other knuckleheads screws up, takes it back to a non quarantined area, now I may get it even though I followed all the guidelines. I give the doctors and nurses an awful lot of credit though, being willing to help these people and knowing they can potentially die from it.
There was discussion of the Liberian government giving their health workers "hazard pay". It would be nice if these hospitals took care of their workers similarly.
What a shitty situation this is turning into, and I'm convinced there WILL be more cases. Here's the latest from the world health organization...
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WHO: Ebola death rate rises to 70 percent
GENEVA (AP) — The death rate in the Ebola outbreak has risen to 70 percent and there could be up to 10,000 new cases a week in two months, the World Health Organization warned Tuesday.
WHO assistant director-general Dr. Bruce Aylward gave the grim figures during a news conference in Geneva. Previously, WHO had estimated the death rate at around 50 percent.
Aylward said the 70 percent death rate was "a high mortality disease" in any circumstance and that the U.N. health agency was still focused on trying to get sick people isolated and provide treatment as early as possible.
He told reporters that if the world's response to the Ebola crisis isn't stepped up within 60 days, "a lot more people will die" and there will be a huge need to deal with the spiraling numbers of cases.
For the last four weeks, there's been about 1,000 new cases per week — including suspected, confirmed and probable cases, he said, adding that the U.N. health agency is aiming to get 70 percent of cases isolated within two months to reverse the outbreak.
WHO increased its Ebola death toll tally to 4,447 people on Tuesday, nearly all of them in West Africa, from 8,914 cases.
http://news.yahoo.com/10-000-ebola-cases-per-week-could-seen-124410379.html
Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
10-14-2014, 10:58 PM
I know we're unlikely to find out, but I wish I knew specifics as to how the healthcare worker contracted the disease, or others that were following CDC guidelines. "IF" they were all being followed, and someone caught it anyway, you'd be hard pressed to find a level of money to give me in order to assist. I'm far from ready to say it's morphed into an airborne virus, otherwise many, many more would be infected. And shit, if one of the other knuckleheads screws up, takes it back to a non quarantined area, now I may get it even though I followed all the guidelines. I give the doctors and nurses an awful lot of credit though, being willing to help these people and knowing they can potentially die from it.
There was discussion of the Liberian government giving their health workers "hazard pay". It would be nice if these hospitals took care of their workers similarly.
What a shitty situation this is turning into, and I'm convinced there WILL be more cases. Here's the latest from the world health organization...
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WHO: Ebola death rate rises to 70 percent
GENEVA (AP) — The death rate in the Ebola outbreak has risen to 70 percent and there could be up to 10,000 new cases a week in two months, the World Health Organization warned Tuesday.
WHO assistant director-general Dr. Bruce Aylward gave the grim figures during a news conference in Geneva. Previously, WHO had estimated the death rate at around 50 percent.
Aylward said the 70 percent death rate was "a high mortality disease" in any circumstance and that the U.N. health agency was still focused on trying to get sick people isolated and provide treatment as early as possible.
He told reporters that if the world's response to the Ebola crisis isn't stepped up within 60 days, "a lot more people will die" and there will be a huge need to deal with the spiraling numbers of cases.
For the last four weeks, there's been about 1,000 new cases per week — including suspected, confirmed and probable cases, he said, adding that the U.N. health agency is aiming to get 70 percent of cases isolated within two months to reverse the outbreak.
WHO increased its Ebola death toll tally to 4,447 people on Tuesday, nearly all of them in West Africa, from 8,914 cases.
http://news.yahoo.com/10-000-ebola-cases-per-week-could-seen-124410379.html
Jim, they have lied about this diseases from the very start. Trying to stop any possible panic or huge outcry to close of flight travel to and from those nations infected. Obama did that because of his wanting and plans to give amnesty to the ffing Mexican invaders . He wants no massive protests to seal that Southern border and thus a huge massive protest against his coming unconstitutional amnesty Executive order!
It was a political calculated move on his part, which abrogated his first duty as prez--that of protecting this nation and its citizens!
He puts this nation in peril everyday he forces those flights to be allowed. Fact..--Tyr
PixieStix
10-15-2014, 10:25 AM
Yet another has tested positive.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/health/texas-ebola-outbreak/index.html
Because they understand that the job involves certain risks and that they undertook their chosen profession to help those in need. I'm also sure they understand what they're getting in to and are capable of analyzing the situation rationally without running around like their hair is on fire. Good on them.
It's one thing to choose a profession where you can help others 'in need'. It's quite another to put your life and the lives of your family and friends at risk by having to care for a patient with a highly infectious and lethal disease.
The second nurse has now been confirmed to have Ebola now. You really 'think' that most healthcare workers (nurses, nurses aids, doctors, sanitary hospital workers, etc.) are going to want to take that chance for the pay they're getting? I think most of them will balk and refuse to take those chances. Which will leave us where? With a critical lack of willing hospital workers to deal with this outbreak. And with a much higher cost for the few hospital workers that are willing to risk it all to care for Ebola patients.
If you think otherwise, you are living in a dream world.
fj1200
10-15-2014, 11:39 AM
It's one thing to choose a profession where you can help others 'in need'. It's quite another to put your life and the lives of your family and friends at risk by having to care for a patient with a highly infectious and lethal disease.
The second nurse has now been confirmed to have Ebola now. You really 'think' that most healthcare workers (nurses, nurses aids, doctors, sanitary hospital workers, etc.) are going to want to take that chance for the pay they're getting? I think most of them will balk and refuse to take those chances. Which will leave us where? With a critical lack of willing hospital workers to deal with this outbreak. And with a much higher cost for the few hospital workers that are willing to risk it all to care for Ebola patients.
If you think otherwise, you are living in a dream world.
Many people put their lives at risk every day and they will continue to do so because they apparently respect their higher calling than you.
Most health care workers of course won't be called to treat Ebola victims now because that is not the job of "most." But yes, many will accept the risk to do their jobs and protect the larger population and my proof will be that every Ebola victim will be treated.
And I may be living in a dream world but at least it's not filled with paranoid delusions. :)
I know we're unlikely to find out, but I wish I knew specifics as to how the healthcare worker contracted the disease, or others that were following CDC guidelines. "IF" they were all being followed, and someone caught it anyway, you'd be hard pressed to find a level of money to give me in order to assist. I'm far from ready to say it's morphed into an airborne virus, otherwise many, many more would be infected. And shit, if one of the other knuckleheads screws up, takes it back to a non quarantined area, now I may get it even though I followed all the guidelines. I give the doctors and nurses an awful lot of credit though, being willing to help these people and knowing they can potentially die from it.
There was discussion of the Liberian government giving their health workers "hazard pay". It would be nice if these hospitals took care of their workers similarly.
What a shitty situation this is turning into, and I'm convinced there WILL be more cases. Here's the latest from the world health organization...
---
WHO: Ebola death rate rises to 70 percent
GENEVA (AP) — The death rate in the Ebola outbreak has risen to 70 percent and there could be up to 10,000 new cases a week in two months, the World Health Organization warned Tuesday.
WHO assistant director-general Dr. Bruce Aylward gave the grim figures during a news conference in Geneva. Previously, WHO had estimated the death rate at around 50 percent.
Aylward said the 70 percent death rate was "a high mortality disease" in any circumstance and that the U.N. health agency was still focused on trying to get sick people isolated and provide treatment as early as possible.
He told reporters that if the world's response to the Ebola crisis isn't stepped up within 60 days, "a lot more people will die" and there will be a huge need to deal with the spiraling numbers of cases.
For the last four weeks, there's been about 1,000 new cases per week — including suspected, confirmed and probable cases, he said, adding that the U.N. health agency is aiming to get 70 percent of cases isolated within two months to reverse the outbreak.
WHO increased its Ebola death toll tally to 4,447 people on Tuesday, nearly all of them in West Africa, from 8,914 cases.
http://news.yahoo.com/10-000-ebola-cases-per-week-could-seen-124410379.html
A second Dallas nurse has now been diagnosed with Ebola. That makes three that we know of already. No word from Duncan's family AT ALL. Odd that no assurance has been forthcoming about them. Now the CDC wants to interview all the Frontier flight passengers that flew with Vinson.
We now have a full-fledged outbreak right here in the states, thanks to Barack Hussein Obama. Might as well get used to it. This is just a part of his agenda to destroy us from within. And considering our fragile economy (thanks to his policies) and our sucky healthcare system (thanks to his policies) and our open border (thanks to his policies), it will be a blinkin miracle if we, as a free and prosperous nation, survive Obama.
fj1200
10-15-2014, 11:43 AM
We now have a full-fledged outbreak right here in the states...
You might want to wait until we hit double digits.
Many people put their lives at risk every day and they will continue to do so because they apparently respect their higher calling than you.
Most health care workers of course won't be called to treat Ebola victims now because that is not the job of "most." But yes, many will accept the risk to do their jobs and protect the larger population and my proof will be that every Ebola victim will be treated.
And I may be living in a dream world but at least it's not filled with paranoid delusions. :)
Paranoid delusions usually concern things that can NOT happen and probably never will happen. You really need to wake the hell up... since there currently IS an Ebola outbreak in the US as we speak.
As for a "higher calling"..... I imagine that applies mostly to those that don't have families to worry about, but only themselves. So yeah..."many" will continue to do so, but not most, which was exactly my point (duh).
You might want to wait until we hit double digits.
Why? An outbreak is just that. An outbreak. Link to where there is an 'official number' that is considered an outbreak?
Considering the lax and non-existent measures being taken to prevent the spread of this disease (and others deliberately allowed into the US by Obama and his minions)....it's only a matter of time and when, not if.
fj1200
10-15-2014, 01:41 PM
Why? An outbreak is just that. An outbreak. Link to where there is an 'official number' that is considered an outbreak?
Considering the lax and non-existent measures being taken to prevent the spread of this disease (and others deliberately allowed into the US by Obama and his minions)....it's only a matter of time and when, not if.
Paranoid delusions usually concern things that can NOT happen and probably never will happen. You really need to wake the hell up... since there currently IS an Ebola outbreak in the US as we speak.
As for a "higher calling"..... I imagine that applies mostly to those that don't have families to worry about, but only themselves. So yeah..."many" will continue to do so, but not most, which was exactly my point (duh).
:laugh: I'm pretty sure it's more than 2. "Most" was a dumb comment based on nothing. "Most" are not even qualified to do that sort of work.
A paranoid delusion (http://psychcentral.com/encyclopedia/2008/paranoid-delusion/) is the fixed, false belief that one is being harmed or persecuted by a particular person or group of people. Paranoid delusions are known technically as a “persecutory delusion.”It involves the person’s belief that he or she is being conspired against, cheated, spied on, followed, poisoned or drugged, maliciously maligned, harassed, or obstructed in the pursuit of long-term goals.
Small slights may be exaggerated and become the focus of a delusional system with a person suffers from a paranoid delusion.
The focus of the delusion is often on some injustice that must be remedied by legal action. The affected person may engage in repeated attempts to obtain satisfaction by appeal to the courts and other government agencies.
Individuals with paranoid delusions are often resentful and angry, and may even resort to violence against those they believe are hurting them or a loved one.
Paranoid delusions are most often diagnosed in the context of schizophrenia. But they can also occur in non-psychotic disorders, such as obsessive-compulsive disorder, or the use of certain medications or street drugs.
I'll stick with my statement. ;)
:laugh: I'm pretty sure it's more than 2. "Most" was a dumb comment based on nothing. "Most" are not even qualified to do that sort of work.
I'll stick with my statement. ;)
Well of course you will. Even when you're wrong. It's what lefties do. ;)
fj1200
10-15-2014, 01:51 PM
Well of course you will. Even when you're wrong. It's what lefties do. ;)
It's my fault the definition fits? :slap: So will you succeed where others have failed and identify my leftie/small government positions?
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