View Full Version : Ebola has spread here!
Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
10-12-2014, 08:45 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/state-health-officials-2nd-ebola-case-texas-102955708.html
Health worker 2nd in US to test positive for Ebola
Associated Press
10 minutes ago
DALLAS (AP) — A Texas health care worker who was in full protective gear when they provided hospital care for an Ebola patient who later died has tested positive for the virus and is in stable condition, health officials said Sunday. If the preliminary diagnosis is confirmed, it would be the first known case of the disease being contracted or transmitted in the U.S.
Dr. Daniel Varga, of the Texas Health Resources, said during a news conference Sunday that the worker wore a gown, gloves, mask and shield when they provided care to Thomas Eric Duncan during his second visit to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. Varga did not identify the worker and says the family of the worker has "requested total privacy."
Varga says the health care worker reported a fever Friday night as part of a self-monitoring regimen required by the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. He said another person also remains in isolation, and the hospital has stopped accepting new emergency room patients.
Duncan, the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S., died Wednesday in Dallas.
Judge Clay Jenkins, Dallas County's top administrative official, said the unidentified health care worker is a "heroic" person who "was proud to provide care to Mr. Duncan." He said the health care worker's family has requested privacy because they are "going through a great ordeal."
"We knew a second case could be a reality, and we've been preparing for this possibility," Dr. David Lakey, commissioner of the Texas Department of State Health Services, said in a statement Sunday. "We are broadening our team in Dallas and working with extreme diligence to prevent further spread."
Health officials have interviewed the patient and are identifying any contacts or potential exposures. They said people who had contact with the health care worker after symptoms emerged will be monitored based on the nature of their interactions and the potential they were exposed to the virus.
More than 4,000 people have died in the ongoing Ebola epidemic centered in West Africa, according to World Health Organization figures published Friday. Almost all of those deaths have been in the three worst-affected countries, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea.
Ebola spreads through close contact with a symptomatic person's bodily fluids, such as blood, sweat, vomit, feces, urine, saliva or semen. Those fluids must have an entry point, like a cut or scrape or someone touching the nose, mouth or eyes with contaminated hands, or being splashed. The World Health Organization says blood, feces and vomit are the most infectious fluids, while the virus is found in saliva mostly once patients are severely ill and the whole live virus has never been culled from sweat.
Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S., died Wednesday in Dallas. Duncan, 42, grew up next to a leper colony in Liberia and fled years of war before later returning to his country to find it ravaged by the disease that ultimately took his life.
Duncan arrived in Dallas in late September, realizing a long-held ambition to join relatives. He came to attend the high-school graduation of his son, who was born in a refugee camp in Ivory Coast and was brought to the U.S. as a toddler when the boy's mother successfully applied for resettlement.
The trip was the culmination of decades of effort, friends and family members said. But when Duncan arrived in Dallas, though he showed no symptoms, he had already been exposed to Ebola. His neighbors in Liberia believe Duncan become infected when he helped a pregnant neighbor who later died from it. It was unclear if he knew about her diagnosis before traveling.
Duncan had arrived at a friend's Dallas apartment on Sept. 20 — less than a week after helping his sick neighbor. For the nine days before he was taken to a hospital in an ambulance, Duncan shared the apartment with several people.
That full protective gear did include protection from air borne did it?
How did the healthcare worker get it???
If it mutates to go airborne and gets started here the potential for millions to die is there...
but, but , but Obama said, don't worry , be happy, let 'em come on in!
Think about what that man has done to this nation!-Tyr
jimnyc
10-12-2014, 08:51 AM
That full protective gear did include protection from air borne did it?
How did the healthcare worker get it???
If it mutates to go airborne and gets started here the potential for millions to die is there...
but, but , but Obama said, don't worry , be happy, let 'em come on in!
Think about what that man has done to this nation!-Tyr
I don't get it either, not unless this was someone who helped him out the first time he came to the hospital and was sent home. They keep saying that you can't get it but for bodily fluids and such, and of course an entirely quarantined ICU unit & full protective gear should protect one from that. I'm curious if they will offer better explanations as to how they believe this person caught the virus. And then the next question - how many people did the new infected person come into contact with prior to being quarantined? And if prior efforts in a quarantined area failed, what changes are being made?
Trigg
10-12-2014, 08:54 AM
the hospital probably didn't decontaminate everything the patient could have touched.
Hand railings, door knobs....anything could have been harboring the virus and who knows how long the virus can live on surfaces.
This is one thing obama, in his infinite stupidity, left out of his speech about contact with ebola. NO you can't catch it from casual contact, but you can get it if you touch anything the ebola patient touched and then touch your skin. This is a dangerous virus. Obama needs to stop underplaying it.
NightTrain
10-12-2014, 09:13 AM
Scary that he got infected with full protective gear. There had to have been a flaw in it, or not correctly donned.
Or as Trigg said, he touched a surface already infected prior to gearing up.
Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
10-12-2014, 12:24 PM
Scary that he got infected with full protective gear. There had to have been a flaw in it, or not correctly donned.
Or as Trigg said, he touched a surface already infected prior to gearing up.
Now imagine a fevered infected person wondering around for 3 days touching counters , doorknobs etc , in public places like malls, restaurants etc.
Of course some experts believe this that can be transmitted airborne already.
Safe would be to execute extreme caution, seal off the hot infected areas--In Africa but Obama says no to that.
The damn entire nation should be protesting and asking why he refuses to do that.
If an epidemic starts here its already too damn late then.
The bambastard seems mighty damn callous with American lives and very few in the media dare to question why or lodge legitimate complaints.
That's because he and crew have shown how they severely deal with those questioning this dictator's policies and actions.
Tyrant he surely is now, but after the November elections we will seen that increased by a hundred fold or more IMHO!-Tyr
That full protective gear did include protection from air borne did it?
How did the healthcare worker get it???
If it mutates to go airborne and gets started here the potential for millions to die is there...
but, but , but Obama said, don't worry , be happy, let 'em come on in!
Think about what that man has done to this nation!-Tyr
The CDC (yet another branch of US government, run by Obama leftist bureaucrats) (http://www.cdc.gov/about/leadership/director.htm)....is lying through their teeth and on their website. They claim that: "Ebola is not spread through the air or by water (http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/index.html)...", which is patently false. It is spread and can be spread through droplets suspended in the air coughed or sneezed by an infected person. Which means that refusing to stop flights from infected areas and refusing to quarantine strictly anyone that has come in contact with an infected person (now hundreds in the USA, thanks to these morons), is a deliberate and politically agenda-driven decision by these leftist aholes.
They also claim on the CDC website that there is "no evidence" that mosquitoes can or will spread this disease....but mosquitoes spread 'other' diseases via bodily fluids. Why not this one too? Because they're not looking for any evidence, that's why. And even if they found it, they wouldn't make it public for fear of a panic and for fear of making it glaringly obvious how they and the Obama administration has either: A) failed Americans dismally, or B) have deliberately been derelect in their duty and their job of protecting Americans from real theats, vs. their leftist moronic imagined threats, like their preference to attack tobacco smoking, instead.
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Drummond
10-12-2014, 01:06 PM
Now imagine a fevered infected person wondering around for 3 days touching counters , doorknobs etc , in public places like malls, restaurants etc.
Of course some experts believe this that can be transmitted airborne already.
Safe would be to execute extreme caution, seal off the hot infected areas--In Africa but Obama says no to that.
The damn entire nation should be protesting and asking why he refuses to do that.
If an epidemic starts here its already too damn late then.
The bambastard seems mighty damn callous with American lives and very few in the media dare to question why or lodge legitimate complaints.
That's because he and crew have shown how they severely deal with those questioning this dictator's policies and actions.
Tyrant he surely is now, but after the November elections we will seen that increased by a hundred fold or more IMHO!-Tyr
I don't believe for a second that it can't be an airborne disease. If you can catch it from objects harbouring it, why not from airborne sources ? For example .. what if someone with it sneezes in your direction ? If an object can harbour it, why not skin that's just had infected vapour touch it (assuming we're ONLY talking vapour, not something more substantial ?).
My country has a cold climate. I think Ebola will arrive just in time for the flu season, when peoples' immune systems are already being taxed. Add Ebola-infected surfaces and air-filled 'Ebola vapour' together, and I reckon it'll spread like wildfire.
And any one country can be a threat to any other, in matters of this kind. Especially thanks to the Leftie STUPIDITY in the EU, which is even NOW not doing away with the 'open borders between member States' rule ... !!!
Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
10-12-2014, 04:32 PM
NOW BOSTON!
http://news.yahoo.com/patient-isolated-massachusetts-clinic-displaying-ebola-symptoms-newspaper-200117720.html
Patient with Ebola symptoms transferred to Boston hospital
(Reuters) - A patient in Massachusetts who recently returned from Liberia and was displaying symptoms of Ebola was transferred from a medical clinic to a Boston hospital on Sunday, the hospital said.
The patient reported to the Harvard Vanguard Medical Associates hospital in Braintree, Massachusetts, complaining of a headache and muscle aches, said Ben Kruskal, a physician and chief of infectious disease, in a statement.
The patient has not been confirmed to have the deadly virus.
"Out of an abundance of caution we immediately notified authorities and the patient was securely removed from the building and put into an ambulance now headed to Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center," Kruskal said.
Kruskal said the Braintree building was closed briefly but reopened. "We are working closely with the Department of Public Health who will determine next steps," he said.
Fire and ambulance services responded to the hospital and put an Ebola protocol in place, said William Cash of the Braintree Fire Department. He said the patient is a male.
The current Ebola outbreak, the worst on record of the disease, has killed more than 4,000 people, mostly in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea in West Africa.
The development in Massachusetts comes hours after the announcement that a Texas health worker contracted Ebola after treating a Liberian man who died of the disease at a Dallas hospital last week.
(Reporting by Kevin Murphyh in Kansas City, Peter Cooney in Washington and Frank McGurty in New York; Editing by Lisa Shumaker and Eric Walsh)
Hmmm SW and now the NE , I smell something funny
gabosaurus
10-12-2014, 09:26 PM
That full protective gear did include protection from air borne did it?
How did the healthcare worker get it???
If it mutates to go airborne and gets started here the potential for millions to die is there...
but, but , but Obama said, don't worry , be happy, let 'em come on in!
Think about what that man has done to this nation!-Tyr
Tyr, dear, perhaps you didn't read the entire story.
The infected nurse treated the patient while wearing no protective gear at all. Not only that, but she changed his clothes and bedding.
Perhaps you need to find a less sensational source for your news.
gabosaurus
10-12-2014, 10:20 PM
Muslims have found a way to decimate England with Ebola.
http://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/jimbo_loony.jpg
SassyLady
10-13-2014, 04:03 AM
Hmmm SW and now the NE , I smell something funny
It is in Sacramento, CA.
It is in Sacramento, CA.
Might be you did mention Ca, No I was talking about TX and realized as I had already posted that TX isn't really the SW but close enough so I left it :sorry:
Tyr, dear, perhaps you didn't read the entire story.
The infected nurse treated the patient while wearing no protective gear at all. Not only that, but she changed his clothes and bedding.
Perhaps you need to find a less sensational source for your news.
Apparently this guy didn't read the article either .
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Some healthcare experts have criticized the head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for saying that a "protocol breach" was responsible for the infection of a Dallas nurse with the Ebola virus, claming that the description scapegoats the nurse in a case that shows how unprepared nursing staffs are for dealing with a potential outbreak
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/13/cdc-head-criticized-for-blaming-nurse-ebola-infection-on-protocol-breach/
Muslims have found a way to decimate England with Ebola.
http://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/jimbo_loony.jpg
Stunning hypocrisy here....considering that it is the left that controls the idiotic news and media in the USA...and considering that it is, ergo, the idiotic leftist media that uses hyperbole and fear tactics against any issue on their leftist agenda to either provoke, nudge or manipulate the US populace. Perhaps you were merely mocking and making fun of yourself and your leftist side and agenda and tactics here though, eh?
red state
10-13-2014, 10:19 AM
Sassy.....I know you and I agree here (as in most other topics) but all I have to say is "AGENDA 21". What a fantastically effective way to get the train rolling on this 'agenda'. Scary stuff, indeed! Seems to be hitting home now....doesn't it?!
PixieStix
10-13-2014, 10:24 AM
Watch this Gabby, get back to us after you do. Flights from West Africa should have not been allowed to any nation, as well as the United States. These people have been dropping like flies since June and July. Plenty of time for the Obama administration to do the right thing. But NO, he is not concerned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BwEZbRO1Js
Drummond
10-13-2014, 11:53 AM
Tyr, dear, perhaps you didn't read the entire story.
The infected nurse treated the patient while wearing no protective gear at all. Not only that, but she changed his clothes and bedding.
Perhaps you need to find a less sensational source for your news.
See ..... http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/13/health/ebola-nurse-how-could-this-happen/index.html
From this account, which as I type was released mere minutes ago, the nurse took ALL protective precautions !!
Are CNN wrong ? The whole point of the article is to ask HOW this nurse, WITH the protection she had, could've contracted Ebola ...
Gunny
10-13-2014, 12:47 PM
Might be you did mention Ca, No I was talking about TX and realized as I had already posted that TX isn't really the SW but close enough so I left it :sorry:
Texas IS consider part of the Southwest. ;)
jimnyc
10-13-2014, 01:40 PM
Tyr, dear, perhaps you didn't read the entire story.
The infected nurse treated the patient while wearing no protective gear at all. Not only that, but she changed his clothes and bedding.
Perhaps you need to find a less sensational source for your news.
I believe the CDC themselves state that there was a breach in protocol, while the hospital in Texas states that they wore full gear at all times. I think the very first sentence of the article mentions a breach of protocol. Then in the next breath it states:
The hospital worker, a woman who was not identified by officials, wore protective gear while treating the Liberian patient, and she has been unable to point to how the breach might have occurred, said Dr. Tom Frieden, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Duncan was the first person in the U.S. diagnosed with Ebola.
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