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Gnostic Christian Bishop
10-01-2014, 01:29 PM
Christians loving their genocidal God is like Jews adoring Hitler, and just as foolish.


As above, so below.


Above.
God condemned Christians to hell and extinction.

Below.
Hitler condemned the Jews to extinction.

Expected result.
The same expected results if both plans are successful. Except that God gets the bonus of the smell of burning human flesh. Um, Um, Good. Hitler was not so inclined.

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The Jews know not to call evil good. They would not bend the knee to Hitler.

Christians and most of the other Abrahamic faiths, bend the knee to the God who used genocide on man and killed when the moral thing to do was to cure. Christians and Muslims thus call evil good.

I think this all began when the Christian and Muslim version of Eden were called a fall. This is the reversed of the Jewish version and is wrong. Christians and Muslims should have usurped the moral of the story when they usurped and altered the Jewish myths. Reading this myth literally has been quite harmful. Remember the Dark Ages and the Inquisitions.

If, as above so below is to be the dream of religion, and it is as we are to match laws with heaven, then the near perfect analogy above of as above so below must be brought into synch.

If you are a Christian or Muslim, please justify why you bend the knee to a God that does not deserve that title. A God who would blame his own creation for his errors in creating.

The claim that your God is good does not hold water in either the esoteric world, or in this one. Not in the literal world or the fantasy world of the Gods. Genocide is evil everywhere.

I know that you likely inherited your God and did not choose him for yourself. You can do better. You can find a God who owns up to his errors and repents to his victims, if he was man enough, instead of blaming others for his errors.

I think it time for believers to reject the genocidal God and stop wishing for the tyranny above in heaven, --- while trying to live in a democracy here below.

Bring democracy to heaven by telling your tyrannical God where to go.

God may have begun as foolish, --- Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; --- but God is almost ready to obey his betters. Mankind.

Will Christianity revive itself morally by returning to a more Jewish view? After all, the entire Bible was written by Jews and their take is more intelligent and moral.

If Jews are bright enough to reject the God who would annihilate them, why are Christians not following that good example and instead lovingly bend the knee to a proven tyrant, --- while at the same time promoting a less tyrannical life here on earth?

To believe is good but to believe in a condemning genocidal God is foolish. Do you agree?

Regards

DL

PixieStix
10-01-2014, 02:19 PM
Ugh :bs1:

LongTermGuy
10-01-2014, 02:38 PM
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PixieStix
10-01-2014, 02:39 PM
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:laugh:

Gunny
10-01-2014, 02:43 PM
Christians loving their genocidal God is like Jews adoring Hitler, and just as foolish.


As above, so below.


Above.
God condemned Christians to hell and extinction.

Below.
Hitler condemned the Jews to extinction.

Expected result.
The same expected results if both plans are successful. Except that God gets the bonus of the smell of burning human flesh. Um, Um, Good. Hitler was not so inclined.

=========================================

The Jews know not to call evil good. They would not bend the knee to Hitler.

Christians and most of the other Abrahamic faiths, bend the knee to the God who used genocide on man and killed when the moral thing to do was to cure. Christians and Muslims thus call evil good.

I think this all began when the Christian and Muslim version of Eden were called a fall. This is the reversed of the Jewish version and is wrong. Christians and Muslims should have usurped the moral of the story when they usurped and altered the Jewish myths. Reading this myth literally has been quite harmful. Remember the Dark Ages and the Inquisitions.

If, as above so below is to be the dream of religion, and it is as we are to match laws with heaven, then the near perfect analogy above of as above so below must be brought into synch.

If you are a Christian or Muslim, please justify why you bend the knee to a God that does not deserve that title. AGod who would blame his own creation for his errors in creating.

The claim that your God is good does not hold water in either the esoteric world, or in this one. Not in the literal world or the fantasy world of the Gods. Genocide is evil everywhere.

I know that you likely inherited your God and did not choose him for yourself. You can do better. You can find a God who owns up to his errors and repents to his victims, if he was man enough, instead of blaming others for his errors.

I think it time for believers to reject the genocidal God and stop wishing for the tyranny above in heaven, --- while trying to live in a democracy here below.

Bring democracy to heaven by telling your tyrannical God where to go.

God may have begun as foolish, --- Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; --- but God is almost ready to obey his betters. Mankind.

Will Christianity revive itself morally by returning to a more Jewish view? After all, the entire Bible was written by Jews and their take is more intelligent and moral.

If Jews are bright enough to reject the God who would annihilate them, why are Christians not following that good example and instead lovingly bend the knee to a proven tyrant, --- while at the same time promoting a less tyrannical life here on earth?

To believe is good but to believe in a condemning genocidal God is foolish. Do you agree?

Regards

DL



:smoke:

tailfins
10-01-2014, 03:04 PM
Romans 1:22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

NightTrain
10-01-2014, 03:07 PM
Remember, Gnostic, Jesus loves you.

So do I.

Did you check out any of those churches there in Ottawa?

They will give you the attention you crave, and as an added bonus, save your immortal soul from hell!

Now that's a win-win!

Gunny
10-01-2014, 03:25 PM
Remember, Gnostic, Jesus loves you.

So do I.

Did you check out any of those churches there in Ottawa?

They will give you the attention you crave, and as an added bonus, save your immortal soul from hell!

Now that's a win-win!

Hey ... I already got him a front row seat at Prayer Meeting tonight. It is Wednesday ...

Then while the adults have service, he can go hang with the Sunshine Boys in the youth group hall across the street. Free pastry .... ;)

jimnyc
10-01-2014, 03:27 PM
I'll take a #1, 2 cheeseburgers, fries & a coke. Gimme a 6 piece chicken with sweet and sour sauce too.

Thank you, come again.

revelarts
10-01-2014, 03:47 PM
Christians loving their genocidal God is like Jews adoring Hitler, and just as foolish.


As above, so below.


Above.
God condemned Christians to hell and extinction.

Below.
Hitler condemned the Jews to extinction.

Expected result.
The same expected results if both plans are successful. Except that God gets the bonus of the smell of burning human flesh. Um, Um, Good. Hitler was not so inclined.



one things that's always interesting to me about Gnostics and other "spiritual" and supposedly less dogmatic religions that denigrate basic Christian beliefs is the double standard.

they claim that the BIBLE is not authoritative, but read it and say it should be read for the more "spiritual" meaning.
and claim that it's just a guide... a broken misread one.

but they adhere like any fire and brimstone preacher to their own doctrines and condemn others beliefs as false WITH THOSE .

Notice where the term "as above so below" fits in the logic process of this argument.
it's at the top and assumed to be a spiritually ...fundamental... FACT.
That assumed fact is then what the rest of the painfully bad argument is based on.

"as above so below" is also just loaded with weird meanings depending on which group you ask and the time of day.

Gnostics, Wiccans, New Agers with Crystal powers, the Unity church, the church of Satan and others all
use it to various purpose with various meaning.
But what ever it means it never means anything an average Christian reading his Bible would get from an honest reading of the words of Jesus and the Apostles.

Gnotics have very definite beliefs that they cover with an layer of pixie dust claiming it's openness.
But it's just a different religion period.

different God, the creator God of Christians is believed to be a self deceived lesser god,
Different beginning of the cosmos,
different interpretation of the nature of humans,
Different EXTRA spiritual creatures. Not angels and demons as the bible teaches... but Aeons
Different idea about the savoir came to do, and what he did.

Basically it's an early heresy that's been around since the the early centuries and sadly the thing won't die.

but G.C. you sure have a weird way of proselytizing for it.

Gunny
10-01-2014, 03:56 PM
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