Fox News contributor informed he has been put on terrorist watch list

[BoogyMan]

Chilling actions taken by the fascist regime in DC. (https://twitter.com/stephenfhayes/status/514493934647934976)

http://www.mediaite.com/online/fox-news-contributor-stephen-hayes-is-on-the-terrorist-watch-list/


http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6356&stc=1

[NightTrain]

Allegedly because he took a 1-way flight earlier this year to Turkey.

Not because he works for Fox. :rolleyes:

[aboutime]

Any of us, as members of DP who have ever said anything negative about Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Biden, or the Democrat party, probably also qualify to be on the TERROR WATCH LIST.

The only way to prevent being listed would be...prove you LOVE OBAMA.

[gabosaurus]

Everyone who works for Fox News should be put on the terrorist watch list. And audited by the IRS. And perhaps placed under 24-hour surveillance. :terror:

[BoogyMan]

Everyone who works for Fox News should be put on the terrorist watch list. And audited by the IRS. And perhaps placed under 24-hour surveillance. :terror:

With Obama in office they probably already are.

[Kathianne]

Chilling actions taken by the fascist regime in DC. (https://twitter.com/stephenfhayes/status/514493934647934976)

http://www.mediaite.com/online/fox-news-contributor-stephen-hayes-is-on-the-terrorist-watch-list/


http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6356&stc=1


Now he's a high profile guy, has been for many years. Me? Not so much, yet since 9/11 I was pulled out every damn time I flew, until the last trip from Phoenix to Chicago and reverse.

Not only was I not pulled out, but TSA didn't even look into my bags, checked or not.

[revelarts]

CNN reporter put on watchlist after critical reports about TSA
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july 14 2014
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (AP) The U.S. government is rapidly expanding the number of names it accepts for inclusion on its terrorist watch list, with more than 1.5 million added in the last five years, according to numbers divulged by the government in a civil lawsuit.

About 99 percent of the names submitted are accepted, leading to criticism that the government is "wildly loose" in its use of the list.
Those included in the Terrorist Screening Database could find themselves on the government's no-fly list or face additional scrutiny at airports, though only a small percentage of people in the database are actually on the list.
It has been known for years that the government became more aggressive in nominating people for the watch list following al-Qaida operative Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab's failed effort to blow up an airplane over Detroit on Christmas Day 2009.
But the numbers disclosed by the government show submissions have snowballed. In fiscal 2009, which ended Sept. 30, 2009, 227,932 names were nominated to the database. In fiscal 2010, which includes the months after the attempted Christmas bombing, nominations rose to 250,847. In fiscal 2012, they increased to 336,712, and in fiscal 2013 the most recent year provided nominations jumped to 468,749.

The government disclosed the figures in a civil lawsuit out of Virginia challenging the constitutionality of the no-fly list.
At a hearing Friday, government lawyers urged a judge to dismiss the case, claiming state secrets will be exposed if the case proceeds.
U.S. District Judge Anthony Trenga issued no immediate ruling but expressed deep skepticism of the government's motion.
Gadeir Abbas, a lawyer for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which filed the suit on behalf of a northern Virginia man, said the numbers show the government is failing to abide by the standards required for inclusion, which require "a reasonable suspicion to believe that a person is a known or a suspected terrorist."
"There aren't 1 million people who are known or suspected terrorists," Abbas said after the hearing. "This suggests the standard the government is applying is wildly loose."
A Terrorist Screening Center official declined comment Friday on the numbers.
A counterterrorism official previously told The Associated Press that as of August 2013, there were 700,000 names on the watch list. The official spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss sensitive security information.
Counterterrorism officials have said names are routinely removed from the list.
In Friday's hearing, though, Abbas argued that the process the government uses to evaluate who should be on the list is opaque, and that people who find themselves on it never receive an explanation or a meaningful way to get removed.
Abbas' client, Gulet Mohamed, 21, of Alexandria, Virginia, has never been told why he is on the list. Mohamed, a naturalized citizen, was stranded in Kuwait in 2011 trying to return to the U.S. after a trip to Yemen and his native Somalia. U.S. authorities allowed Mohamed to fly home after he sued, but the lawsuit challenging the legality of the list remains unresolved. He has never been charged with any sort of terror-related offense, and says his inclusion on the list is a mistake.
Government lawyer Amy Powell told the judge that the government does not seek to invoke its state secrets privilege lightly, but said it would inevitably have to expose its methods and sources if it explained at a public trial why Mohamed was put on the list.
Trenga, though, said a secret filing he received from the government partially explaining its rationale for invoking state secrets was inadequate.
"I didn't notice any real restraint" in how the government was invoking the privilege, Trenga said. "They were the kinds of things that would not jump out at you as state secrets."
Earlier this year, Trenga rejected a previous government effort to get the case dismissed.
The Alexandria case follows a ruling last month by a federal judge in Oregon that found people placed on the list have no adequate means to challenge their status. She ordered the government to develop a better means for seeking redress from placement on the list. The government has not yet decided whether to appeal that ruling.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11296104&ref=rss

[revelarts]

Air Marshal whistle-blower now on terrorist watch list. - DHS & TSA investigation 13

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http://www.youtube.com/results?q=Air+Marshals+whistleblowers

[revelarts]

Air Marshals: Innocent People Placed On 'Watch List' To Meet Quota Marshals Say They Must File One Surveillance Detection Report, Or SDR, Per Month

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/marshals-innocent-people-placed-on-watch-list-to-meet-quota


You could be on a secret government database or watch list for simply taking a picture on an airplane. Some federal air marshals say they're reporting your actions to meet a quota, even though some top officials deny it.The air marshals, whose identities are being concealed, told 7NEWS that they're required to submit at least one report a month. If they don't, there's no raise, no bonus, no awards and no special assignments.
"Innocent passengers are being entered into an international intelligence database as suspicious persons, acting in a suspicious manner on an aircraft ... and they did nothing wrong," said one federal air marshal.
These unknowing passengers who are doing nothing wrong are landing in a secret government document called a Surveillance Detection Report, or SDR. Air marshals told 7NEWS that managers in Las Vegas created and continue to maintain this potentially dangerous quota system.
"Do these reports have real life impacts on the people who are identified as potential terrorists?" 7NEWS Investigator Tony Kovaleski asked.
"Absolutely," a federal air marshal replied.....
more at link (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/marshals-innocent-people-placed-on-watch-list-to-meet-quota)

[Old ridge Runner]

Big Bov-va wants you to know he is watching you white Anglo-Saxon Christian hating Muslims.

[Gaffer]

Bet they don't report muslim men between th ages of 16 and 45. After all that would be profiling.

[Gunny]

Allegedly because he took a 1-way flight earlier this year to Turkey.

Not because he works for Fox. :rolleyes:

SO he got put on a terrorist watch list because he didn't know when he was coming back? Must be a LOT of people on that list. :)

[aboutime]

Everyone who works for Fox News should be put on the terrorist watch list. And audited by the IRS. And perhaps placed under 24-hour surveillance. :terror:



Thank you Ms. Lerner.

[Drummond]

... H'mm. I suppose in my case, I've got the potential double whammy of whatever comes from posting as I do on American sites, AND any attention my own lot might want to pay me, for failing to be properly politically correct ?

To those wonderful lads and lasses in Britain's chief surveillance establishment, at GCHQ, Cheltenham ... hello, folks ! :fu:


http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6359&stc=1

[Thunderknuckles]

To those wonderful lads and lasses in Britain's chief surveillance establishment, at GCHQ, Cheltenham ... hello, folks ! :fu:

Gotta hand it to you Brits, you built a way cooler looking surveillance HQ than we Americans did. The best we could muster was a couple of Lego blocks.

[Drummond]

Gotta hand it to you Brits, you built a way cooler looking surveillance HQ than we Americans did. The best we could muster was a couple of Lego blocks.

Thanks ! When it comes to sneaky '1984' type stuff, we know how to do it in style ..

It's a relatively old establishment. In its heyday, we were monitoring Soviet communications (and passing on much of what we learned over to the CIA, I believe). More recently, they've been directed to turn their attentions on the British !

We've read in our Press that they already have the capability of monitoring all telephone, texts and email traffic here. The only questions are, whether they're actively doing so (they undoubtedly are, in my belief) and to what extent.

http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/GCHQ-wants-read-UK-texts-emails/story-11936333-detail/story.html


GCHQ bosses want to monitor every email and text message sent in Britain, and keep records of individuals' internet use.

But the plans have been questioned by Cheltenham community leaders, who believe they would be a massive infringement of human rights.

According to reports, the Government's surveillance centre, based at the 'doughnut' building in Benhall, has already been given up to £1 billion to fund the first stage of what would be the country's biggest ever surveillance system.

Known as the Interception Modernisation Programme, the scheme would enable GCHQ, MI5 and MI6 personnel, and also police, to access complete information on every text, email and visit to a website made in this country.

It is understood the first stage would see hundreds of secret probes monitoring customers live on internet and mobile phone providers.

GCHQ officials, backed by MI6, have reportedly been attempting to persuade Whitehall to fund the project to its completion, at a potential cost of up to £12 billion.

More details are thought to be included in next month's Queen's speech although, the Home Office has stressed no formal decision had been taken.

Conservative councillor Jacky Fletcher, Cheltenham borough member for Benhall and The Reddings, said: "This would be a massive infringement of human rights.

Needless to say, all of this kicked off during our last SOCIALIST Government. The article dates back to 2008.

[aboutime]

... H'mm. I suppose in my case, I've got the potential double whammy of whatever comes from posting as I do on American sites, AND any attention my own lot might want to pay me, for failing to be properly politically correct ?

To those wonderful lads and lasses in Britain's chief surveillance establishment, at GCHQ, Cheltenham ... hello, folks ! :fu:


http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6359&stc=1


Sir Drummond. Great looking photo. But, did anyone happen to notice?

If you use GOOGLE EARTH, and see that building from a satellite far above the Earth. It looks like a huge GOODYEAR TIRE advertisement.:laugh:

[Drummond]

Sir Drummond. Great looking photo. But, did anyone happen to notice?

If you use GOOGLE EARTH, and see that building from a satellite far above the Earth. It looks like a huge GOODYEAR TIRE advertisement.:laugh:


:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

I take your point !

Me, I was thinking more along the lines of an el cheapo, schoolkid-simplistic rendering ripoff of the Pentagon design. But your thinking makes more sense.

[Little-Acorn]

Everyone who works for Fox News should be put on the terrorist watch list. And audited by the IRS. And perhaps placed under 24-hour surveillance. :terror:

Welcome to DebatePolicy, Lois.

[aboutime]

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

I take your point !

Me, I was thinking more along the lines of an el cheapo, schoolkid-simplistic rendering ripoff of the Pentagon design. But your thinking makes more sense.


Thanks. Nobody can rip off the Pentagon design anymore. It is becoming a huge....BRAINLESS center for Obama-Ass-Kissing, and former site of Brave, Men, and Women who didn't fear telling the truth.

But that's no longer the case, or permitted.

Hope the G.B. has better luck.:laugh:

[grannyhawkins]

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

I take your point !

Me, I was thinking more along the lines of an el cheapo, schoolkid-simplistic rendering ripoff of the Pentagon design. But your thinking makes more sense.

I was thinkin a Men in Black Mothership, where all those crazy aliens are workin, monitoring the galaxy.


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[Drummond]

I was thinkin a Men in Black Mothership, where all those crazy aliens are workin, monitoring the galaxy.


http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6360&stc=1:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

- Could be .. !!!

Granny, I know I'm a foreigner ... but that's pushing it, just a tad ... :laugh:

[Kathianne]

Everyone who works for Fox News should be put on the terrorist watch list. And audited by the IRS. And perhaps placed under 24-hour surveillance. :terror:
Pretty much what this administration has been doing, but to more than just FOX. They've hacked computers of AP reporters, along with FOX reporters. The IRS scandal is the stuff of impeachment possibilities. The prosecution by DOJ has become a problem for the administration, one that will likely grow like the IRS scandal.

So have you actually been giving advice to the administration, Gabby?