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Gnostic Christian Bishop
09-21-2014, 08:18 PM
Gnostic Christian Mystery School Secret Truth #1.
All that can and is said of all Gods is speculative by nature as none of it is provable. To state that God exists cannot be a true statement unless one has a God to show. This is irrefutable as it can be shown that all Gods are based on ancient myths and stories. They are always to remain mysterious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwkgGPvClF4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwkgGPvClF4)
All religions are based on myths, legends and hope in an afterlife that unfortunately turned to literal belief, --- and this one issue created the war against free thought that led to the purge of many cults that did not want to read literally and to the Inquisition and the Dark Ages. It ended the Mystery Schools.
Literalists cannot help but be wrong unless they rely on blind faith and that faith of fools has pushed Christians and Muslims to kill many due to this blind faith mind set. Christians will kill again, --- just like Islam is doing today thanks to literal reading, --- given the chance.
Cristian literalist won against free thinking religions thanks to Constantine’s support --- but they cannot win today thanks to an intelligent population who are not superstitious nor as gullible as in past times and do not believe in fantasy, miracles and magic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ1PDxeUynA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ1PDxeUynA)
Is literal reading of any scripture or holy book mentally good, or mentally evil?
Has literal reading done the damage I alluded to or has it been a good influence for mankind?
Regards
DL
P.S.
This thinking is the Gnostic Christian’s goal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded)
This method and mind set is how you become I am and brethren to Jesus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y)
NightTrain
09-21-2014, 08:40 PM
Gnostic!
How are the many prayers helping you?
Have you found Jesus yet?
aboutime
09-21-2014, 08:46 PM
Gnostic!
How are the many prayers helping you?
Have you found Jesus yet?
NightTrain. Isn't it interesting how Gnostic comes here to make claims he cannot dispute, or support; while those of us who have FAITH, better known as BELIEF in the UNSEEN...have no reason to either prove, or disprove whether it IS, or ISN'T?
Gnostic reminds me of the 3rd Reich Propagandists we now often refer to as SKIN HEADS.
Make all the claims they like to convince themselves only they know everything...but likewise, can prove nothing, either negative, or positive.
Funny thing is. No matter what claims Gnostic makes here to SWAY others. He will never succeed in changing MY faith.
Gnostic Christian Bishop
09-21-2014, 08:47 PM
Gnostic!
How are the many prayers helping you?
Have you found Jesus yet?
so you are example of a Christian are you?
:lame2:
Regards
DL
aboutime
09-21-2014, 08:48 PM
so you are example of a Christian are you?
:lame2:
Regards
DL
You aren't intelligent enough to decide either way. We know it, and your shit sandwiches here...are crap.
Gnostic Christian Bishop
09-21-2014, 08:49 PM
Faith vs Reason
Faith is a way for you to quit using your "God given" power of Reason and Logic, so you will believe doctrines that moral men reject as immoral.
The God of the OT says...“Come now, and let us reason together,” [Isaiah 1:18]
How can you reason with God when you throw away reason?
Religions, especially Christianity reply.
“Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.”
“Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.”
Martin Luther “
This puts the rest of us in a position where reasoning with theist becomes impossible.
It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.
Jonathan Swift
Literalism is an evil practice that hides the true messages of myths. You cannot show our friends that they are wrong through their faith colored glasses. Their faith also plugs their ears.
Regards
DL
NightTrain
09-21-2014, 08:51 PM
so you are example of a Christian are you?
:lame2:
Regards
DL
I am simply praying for you every day, my good man! I fall short frequently, but I'm saved.
Have you noticed any improvements in your life since you started receiving all the prayers for you?
Also, did you go check out any of those churches I provided for you in that other thread? Looks like Ottawa is loaded with them, you shouldn't have any problem finding a suitable one.
Drummond
09-21-2014, 08:55 PM
All that can and is said of all Gods is speculative by nature as none of it is provable.
Your ANTI religion position is in itself an act of faith. You apparently have faith in your BELIEF in the incorrectness of believing in a God.
So it seems to me that you're very much in the position you claim to be true for believers in God ... !!
Care to prove me wrong ? OK .. try showing us that you are doing any more than speculating, YOURSELF, in promoting your views.
And if you cannot .... then by your own standards, you are 'no better' than those you seek to criticise. Meaning, that your entire position is a self-defeating one.
Is it high time you gave it up ?? I'd say so ....
Gnostic Christian Bishop
09-21-2014, 09:00 PM
Your ANTI religion position is in itself an act of faith. You apparently have faith in your BELIEF in the incorrectness of believing in a God.
So it seems to me that you're very much in the position you claim to be true for believers in God ... !!
Care to prove me wrong ? OK .. try showing us that you are doing any more than speculating, YOURSELF, in promoting your views.
And if you cannot .... then by your own standards, you are 'no better' than those you seek to criticise. Meaning, that your entire position is a self-defeating one.
Is it high time you gave it up ?? I'd say so ....
I am a Gnostic Christian. How can be a religionist and be anti-religion at the same time?
That would be rather silly.
I think you mistake me for some other.
Regards
DL
Gnostic Christian Bishop
09-21-2014, 09:02 PM
I am simply praying for you every day, my good man! I fall short frequently, but I'm saved.
Have you noticed any improvements in your life since you started receiving all the prayers for you?
Also, did you go check out any of those churches I provided for you in that other thread? Looks like Ottawa is loaded with them, you shouldn't have any problem finding a suitable one.
You really want me to be impressed by what any 12 year old can do. Seriously. Grow up.
Regard
DL
NightTrain
09-21-2014, 09:06 PM
You really want me to be impressed by what any 12 year old can do. Seriously. Grow up.
Regard
DL
Come now, Gnostic. I'm only trying to help you.
Remember that Jesus loves you.
I realize that any 12 year old can find churches for you; but I did that AND helpfully included pictures of them along with street addresses!
Are you leaning toward that Catholic church? I have a feeling you might be. Word has it that there is a woman Priest there, pretty cool eh?
gabosaurus
09-21-2014, 11:07 PM
You really want me to be impressed by what any 12 year old can do. Seriously. Grow up.
Regard
DL
My 13 year old says that you still have time to give your life to God. After you have grown up, of course. :cool:
Drummond
09-22-2014, 07:29 AM
I am a Gnostic Christian. How can be a religionist and be anti-religion at the same time?
That would be rather silly.
I agree. It would - and is.
So, why are you arguing as you are ?!?
One has only to re-read the first post of yours on this thread to see the impossibility of your position. Unless you wish to re-categorise yourself entirely ?
- Although even then, it would remain true that your argument amounts to a form of faith in any case. Which still makes your position absurd.
Gnostic Christian Bishop
09-22-2014, 07:38 AM
I agree. It would - and is.
So, why are you arguing as you are ?!?
One has only to re-read the first post of yours on this thread to see the impossibility of your position. Unless you wish to re-categorise yourself entirely ?
- Although even then, it would remain true that your argument amounts to a form of faith in any case. Which still makes your position absurd.
I argue because you bible tells us to. Note how you literalists do not do as scriptures urge you to do.
1 Thesalonian 5;21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Faith without facts is for fools. You wish to remain as fools.
I have facts and Gnosis. You have what is demonstrably a book of lies.
Regards
DL
Gnostic Christian Bishop
09-22-2014, 07:43 AM
My 13 year old says that you still have time to give your life to God. After you have grown up, of course. :cool:
Then it is to him to come and accept it. Your absentee super God does not show up to take it. He must be a false idol. Why do you idolize him and do no do as Jesus urged and seek God?
He waits for you while you idol worship another.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded
Regards
DL
jimnyc
09-22-2014, 07:44 AM
Gnostic, I'm praying for your soul as I type this. May you find peace in the emptiness between the ears. :)
Gnostic Christian Bishop
09-22-2014, 08:07 AM
You literalist never lose an argument because you are always running from them.
Regards
DL
NightTrain
09-22-2014, 08:08 AM
You literalist never lose an argument because you are always running from them.
Regards
DL
God will forgive your blasphemy, Gnostic.
But you have to repent your sinful ways and accept Jesus into your life.
Are the prayers working?
jimnyc
09-22-2014, 08:12 AM
You literalist never lose an argument because you are always running from them.
Regards
DL
I run TO idiots. Idiot.
And you have yet to offer an "argument" since you joined this board, french fry fryer!
Gnostic Christian Bishop
09-22-2014, 09:29 AM
I run TO idiots. Idiot.
And you have yet to offer an "argument" since you joined this board, french fry fryer!
??
I have had what, 1 intelligent reply from you right wing goofs since joining.
I challenge you to go find more than that 1. It did get a reply.
The fact that almost none here debate on thing and just throw stones shows how you and you friends run from any kind of discussion. That shows how little faith you right wingers really have.
"Censorship reflects society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime." - Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart
Regards
DL
jimnyc
09-22-2014, 09:33 AM
??
I have had what, 1 intelligent reply from you right wing goofs since joining.
I challenge you to go find more than that 1. It did get a reply.
Maybe no one here is interested in your rubbish? :dunno:
Drummond
09-22-2014, 10:29 AM
I argue because you bible tells us to. Note how you literalists do not do as scriptures urge you to do.
1 Thesalonian 5;21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Faith without facts is for fools. You wish to remain as fools.
I have facts and Gnosis. You have what is demonstrably a book of lies.
Regards
DL
I invite you to look up Gnosticism on Wikipedia, and reconcile what it tells us with the positions you have been taking.
Oh, and as for your 'right wing goofs' jibe ... do we have, in that, a clear indication of what REALLY accounts for your posts here ?
Gnostic Christian Bishop
09-22-2014, 10:50 AM
Maybe no one here is interested in your rubbish? :dunno:
Perhaps. I understand that enlightenment is not a big right wing goal. Change is to b shunned for dogma and tradition.
Regards
DL
Gnostic Christian Bishop
09-22-2014, 10:53 AM
I invite you to look up Gnosticism on Wikipedia, and reconcile what it tells us with the positions you have been taking.
Oh, and as for your 'right wing goofs' jibe ... do we have, in that, a clear indication of what REALLY accounts for your posts here ?
Yes. You need saving more than most.
Look at what your literalist ilk are doing.
For the evils of religion to grow, read any scripture literally.
Any and all harmless beliefs are allowed by Gnostic Christians. We know that any myth can be internalized for good results and as esoteric ecumenists, we enjoy knowledge of all the myths that man has created about Gods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&list=PLCBF574D (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&list=PLCBF574D)
When there is a victim is when that view changes. Then you see why Christianity annihilated Gnostic Christianity. We do not let the evils of forced literalism go unopposed. To a tyrant like Constantine, we were poison. One of his first commands to his new Church was to kill off the free thinkers and of course, his new tool, his Church, did as bid. It was quite a ride for free thought for the next 1,000 years.
For the evils of religion to grow.
How can a Gnostic Christian, --- and any other free thinking moral person, --- not judge other's morals when seeing someone hurt other because of the same Church's teachings today?
Can you ignore such things if you have decent morals? Impossible. Especially with Islam pulling the same murderous, freedom stifling ****.
We must discriminate and judge constantly. Every law is a compulsion on all of us to judge.
It is my view that all right wing literalists and fundamentals hurt all of us who are moral religionists, --- as well as those who do not believe. Literalists hurt their parent religions --- and everyone else, be he a believer or not. Literalists and the right wing of religions make us all into laughing stocks. Their God of talking animals, genocidal floods and retribution has got to go. So must beliefs in fantasy, miracles and magic. These are all evil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKHa...x=0&playnext=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKHa...x=0&playnext=1)
They also do much harm to their own fellow adherents.
African witches and Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRG9...eature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRG9...eature=related)
Jesus Camp 1of 3
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=48b_1185215493 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=48b_1185215493)
Death to Gays.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMw2Z...eature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMw2Z...eature=related)
For evil to grow my friend, all good people need do is nothing. Fight literalism when you can. It is your duty to our fellow man.
Regards
DL
jimnyc
09-22-2014, 04:19 PM
Perhaps. I understand that enlightenment is not a big right wing goal. Change is to b shunned for dogma and tradition.
Regards
DL
Let us enlighten you with the Lord! Allow us to show you the light, and the error of your ways.
And if not, we'll just talk about how stupid you are.
How does that sound?
Familiar?
aboutime
09-22-2014, 04:28 PM
To all members of DP. Even the members who claim to be special, and call themselves Gnostics.
I enjoy being entertained by Agnostics, and Athiests who are so afraid of something they can't see, or identify. They'd rather make fools of themselves, than just stay quiet, and stew in their own Ignorance.
It gives me something to constantly challenge. Like a toothache.
artur axmann
09-22-2014, 04:55 PM
Gnostic Christian Mystery School Secret Truth #1.
All that can and is said of all Gods is speculative by nature as none of it is provable. To state that God exists cannot be a true statement unless one has a God to show. This is irrefutable as it can be shown that all Gods are based on ancient myths and stories. They are always to remain mysterious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwkgGPvClF4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwkgGPvClF4)
All religions are based on myths, legends and hope in an afterlife that unfortunately turned to literal belief, --- and this one issue created the war against free thought that led to the purge of many cults that did not want to read literally and to the Inquisition and the Dark Ages. It ended the Mystery Schools.
Literalists cannot help but be wrong unless they rely on blind faith and that faith of fools has pushed Christians and Muslims to kill many due to this blind faith mind set. Christians will killagain, --- just like Islam is doing today thanks to literal reading, --- given the chance.
Cristian literalist won against free thinking religions thanks to Constantine’s support --- but they cannot win today thanks to an intelligent population who are not superstitious nor as gullible as in past times and do not believe in fantasy, miracles and magic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ1PDxeUynA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ1PDxeUynA)
Is literal reading of any scripture or holy book mentally good, or mentally evil?
Has literal reading done the damage I alluded to or has it been a good influence for mankind?
Regards
DL
P.S.
This thinking is the Gnostic Christian’s goal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded)
This method and mind set is how you become I am and brethren to Jesus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y)
O.K. so you're an atheist who also happens to be a gnostic.. big whoop!
Drummond
09-22-2014, 07:09 PM
Artur Axmann v Gnostic !
This thread has maybe found its natural level ...
Have fun, folks ! :coffee::coffee:
aboutime
09-22-2014, 08:03 PM
Artur Axmann v Gnostic !
This thread has maybe found its natural level ...
Have fun, folks ! :coffee::coffee:
Sir Drummond. I agree, and suddenly remembered an expression that goes something like: Birds of a feather???
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