Union of Canadian Socialist Republics? Get Ready North America

[darin]

Yet another step by our brothers to the north to control their population. Eventually, with more and more fascist liberals taking office, this kind of bullshit will make it's way to the US of A.

I hope you aren't a car guy/gal.


Car junkies who pour thousands of dollars into their vehicles to make them as fast as possible are wasting their money, Bryant said. He warned potential racers that all it takes is a tip from police to seize and destroy their cars.

"If we can establish someone has parts and they're juicing up their car...then we can seize those vehicles," Bryant said.

"We will seize it and you will never see it again. We will crush your car, we will crush the parts."

Read the rest:

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/06/20/4276704-cp.html

[Hagbard Celine]

"Fascist Liberal" is a contradiction in terms genius.

[darin]

"Fascist Liberal" is a contradiction in terms genius.

Lessee -


Fascim:
a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.



That sounds exactly like the Liberal Agenda in the USA.

For the record, my IQ is about 120 - not at genius levels.

[theHawk]

Yet another step by our brothers to the north to control their population. Eventually, with more and more fascist liberals taking office, this kind of bullshit will make it's way to the US of A.

I hope you aren't a car guy/gal.



Read the rest:

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/06/20/4276704-cp.html



Oh HELL NO. HELL NOOOOOO.

[Monkeybone]

that is ridiculous. no proof, then bullshit you can take my car. there is nothing wrong with a little modification

[Hagbard Celine]

Lessee -



That sounds exactly like the Liberal Agenda in the USA.

For the record, my IQ is about 120 - not at genius levels.

Bush is a republican, and since he holds the position that most closely resembles that of a dictator (i.e. head of state), that pretty much blows your position completely out of the water. Not to mention the fact that Fascism is a rightwing (conservative) form of government. If you are still interested in launching hollow attacks against liberals, using the correct vernacular is advised. The word you may want to look at is "communism" or "communist," which is a left-wing (liberal) form of government. If you're going to be wrong, at least do so with a little grace. Being wrong and then defending your position with an argument that is also wrong is just plain tacky. :laugh:

[darin]

Bush is a republican, and since he holds the position that most closely resembles that of a dictator (i.e. head of state), that pretty much blows your position completely out of the water.

Whoa - now...what the hell does the president have to do with anything? I'm saying Fascists support a dictatorship. Your comment is Irrelevant.


Not to mention the fact that Fascism is a rightwing (conservative) form of government.

Except it's NOT right wing. Read the definition I posted above. Try and LEARN something here. Some definitions of Fascism point to conservative/right-wing - but in the context of the Desire for Liberals to silence different viewpoints, and reduce general freedom, they are fascists.



If you are still interested in launching hollow attacks against liberals, using the correct vernacular is advised. The word you may want to look at is "communism" or "communist," which is a left-wing (liberal) form of government. If you're going to be wrong, at least do so with a little grace. Being wrong and then defending your position with an argument that is also wrong is just plain tacky. :laugh:

I'm wrong? Tell it to dictionary.com. (shrug). Liberal Fascist may be a new term to you - but it's accurate when describing modern-day liberals - those who want to give up our financial, social, and religious freedoms to control of TheState.

[Hagbard Celine]

Whoa - now...what the hell does the president have to do with anything? I'm saying Fascists support a dictatorship. Your comment is Irrelevant. Your definition said that fascism is a government system led by a dictator who has complete power. Since we both agree that a dictator is a head of state--atleast I hope we agree on this. I never know because half the time if I said the sky was blue you'd say it was yellow--and since Bush is the head of state of this country (notice I didn't say he was a dictator nor did I attack your precious in any way) and since he is a republican, your theory that dems are fascists (aside from the fact that liberals are left wing and fascism is a rightwing ideology), is blown out of the water because the dems don't control the head of state. To have fascism, you need a dictator in the executive branch who has your same values. Dems don't. They're not fascists, this isn't a fascist system, case closed.


Except it's NOT right wing. Read the definition I posted above. Try and LEARN something here. Some definitions of Fascism point to conservative/right-wing - but in the context of the Desire for Liberals to silence different viewpoints, and reduce general freedom, they are fascists.You try and learn something here. ALL definitions of fascism point to the rightwing side of the political spectrum. You aren't Webster Darin. You're just Darin. So stop trying to redefine words, ideas, theories and facts to support your weirdo point of view.


I'm wrong? Tell it to dictionary.com. (shrug). Liberal Fascist may be a new term to you - but it's accurate when describing modern-day liberals - those who want to give up our financial, social, and religious freedoms to control of TheState. (shrug) Dictionary.com defines a fascist as someone with extreme rightwing views. You're wrong. The fact is that the amount of people in the US who proclaim to be fascists are an extreme minority. Using your self-proclaimed new definition of the word "fascist," modern republicans also fit the ticket--even moreso considering the fact that it was the republican party that tried unsuccessfully to write discrimination against gays into the US Constitution. Hey, Hitler also persecuted gays! *Ding!* That's one. Republicans also worship the flag, flaunt the eagle and endorse militarism on a jingoistic scale--to the point where they convinced themselves it was ok to preemptively invade a sovereign nation. Hey, Hitler also preemptively invaded and conquered innocent, sovereign nations and held rallies to endorse nationalism! *Ding!* That's two. But hey, why stop there? Republicans also force their opinions on people, opinions based on heresay and mythology and they use propaganda, fear and guilt to do it! Sound familiar? If you said yes, you're right! Hitler and his Nazi party also forced the Nazi agenda on the people of Germany using propaganda, fear mongering and guilt! *Ding!* That's three! Where I come from that's a trifecta. If it smells like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck. You've been served :dance:

[darin]

Your definition said that fascism is a government system led by a dictator who has complete power. Since we both agree that a dictator is a head of state--atleast I hope we agree on this.

Can you read? If so, you know what I put - From Dictionary.com



...since Bush is the head of state of this country and since he is a republican, your theory that dems are fascists (aside from the fact that liberals are left wing and fascism is a rightwing ideology), is blown out of the water because the dems don't control the head of state.

But here is where you are stupid. You said Bush is the 'closest thing to a dictator' we have - when Our current President and congressional make up has JACK SCHITT to do with the topic of "Liberal Fascism." You are trying to change the subject, or otherwise being obtuse.


To have fascism, you need a dictator in the executive branch who has your same values. Dems don't. They're not fascists, this isn't a fascist system, case closed.

Liberals hold to Fascist ideals. Absolute Government Control. Fewer Freedoms. Reductions in tolerance of Freedom of Speech. Higher, Oppressive Taxation. Etcetera.


You try and learn something here. ALL definitions of fascism point to the rightwing side of the political spectrum. You aren't Webster Darin. You're just Darin. So stop trying to redefine words, ideas, theories and facts to support your weirdo point of view.



Except the definition i posted above. Means not 'ALL', doesn't it?


(shrug) Dictionary.com defines a fascist as someone with extreme rightwing views. You're wrong.

No, it does not. PLEASE - seriously - try to find classes on how to use th3 InterWebs, okay?

The American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition, adds this to the end of their definition (which is simply POSTED on dictionary.com)


fascists are usually described as right-wing.

Just so you don't get corn-fused:

USUALLY means "habitual or customary". Described means "to tell or depict in written or spoken words; give an account of".

Thus the phrase "fascists are usually described as right-wing." does NOT mean "Fascists are Right-Wing". It means Fascists are CUSTOMARILY DEPICTED as right wing. Did you take the SATs?


it was the republican party that tried unsuccessfully to write discrimination against gays into the US Constitution.

Subjective editorial on your part. While your opinion is your own, it's clearly NOT in line with Law, as MANY states have had their 'defining marriage as one man and one woman' laws UPHELD by their respective Supreme Courts.


Republicans also worship the flag, flaunt the eagle and endorse militarism on a jingoistic scale--to the point where they convinced themselves it was ok to preemptively invade a sovereign nation.

Again, you're editorializing and grandstanding. You're building a flock of strawmen with NO real account for the point of debate.


Hey, Hitler also preemptively invaded and conquered innocent, sovereign nations and held rallies to endorse nationalism! *Ding!* That's two. But hey, why stop there?

There - you've done more Worthless, off topic Editorializing of issues.


Republicans also force their opinions on people, opinions based on heresay and mythology and they use propaganda, fear and guilt to do it! Sound familiar? If you said yes, you're right! Hitler and his Nazi party also forced the Nazi agenda on the people of Germany using propaganda, fear mongering and guilt! *Ding!* That's three! Where I come from that's a trifecta. If it smells like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck. You've been served :dance:


To that I issue a clear and proud "What the Hell are you Talking about?"

The Nazis also gave the world their first scientific studies linking Smoking with Cancer. DING! Anti-Smokers are Nazis!! The Nazis also gave us technology which eventually lead to our Reaching the Moon DING! Astronauts must be Nazis, too, right?


Dude - you're REALLY off-base here. I'm SORRY your religion feels belittled - but the fact remains, Liberals get hard-ons when they can remove Free Speech from the citizens of this country. Liberals salivate at ANY mention of removing Wealth from those who've rightly earned it. Liberals today want SUPREME Control over our lives, regulating what we can eat, what we can smoke, what we can drive, and how much we can earn.

If you hate the tennants of your faith so much - why not convert?

[Hagbard Celine]

Can you read? If so, you know what I put - From Dictionary.com



But here is where you are stupid. You said Bush is the 'closest thing to a dictator' we have - when Our current President and congressional make up has JACK SCHITT to do with the topic of "Liberal Fascism." You are trying to change the subject, or otherwise being obtuse.



Liberals hold to Fascist ideals. Absolute Government Control. Fewer Freedoms. Reductions in tolerance of Freedom of Speech. Higher, Oppressive Taxation. Etcetera.




Except the definition i posted above. Means not 'ALL', doesn't it?



No, it does not. PLEASE - seriously - try to find classes on how to use th3 InterWebs, okay?

The American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition, adds this to the end of their definition (which is simply POSTED on dictionary.com)



Just so you don't get corn-fused:

USUALLY means "habitual or customary". Described means "to tell or depict in written or spoken words; give an account of".

Thus the phrase "fascists are usually described as right-wing." does NOT mean "Fascists are Right-Wing". It means Fascists are CUSTOMARILY DEPICTED as right wing. Did you take the SATs?



Subjective editorial on your part. While your opinion is your own, it's clearly NOT in line with Law, as MANY states have had their 'defining marriage as one man and one woman' laws UPHELD by their respective Supreme Courts.



Again, you're editorializing and grandstanding. You're building a flock of strawmen with NO real account for the point of debate.



There - you've done more Worthless, off topic Editorializing of issues.




To that I issue a clear and proud "What the Hell are you Talking about?"

The Nazis also gave the world their first scientific studies linking Smoking with Cancer. DING! Anti-Smokers are Nazis!! The Nazis also gave us technology which eventually lead to our Reaching the Moon DING! Astronauts must be Nazis, too, right?


Dude - you're REALLY off-base here. I'm SORRY your religion feels belittled - but the fact remains, Liberals get hard-ons when they can remove Free Speech from the citizens of this country. Liberals salivate at ANY mention of removing Wealth from those who've rightly earned it. Liberals today want SUPREME Control over our lives, regulating what we can eat, what we can smoke, what we can drive, and how much we can earn.

If you hate the tennants of your faith so much - why not convert?

I rest my case. :rolleyes: You have this fake idea in your head of what a "liberal" is based on whatever it is you've gleamed from the mucky soup of right-wing blogs and Bill O'Reilly and you've convinced yourself that it's "right" whatever that means but in reality what you've done is isolate yourself in a hatred of a line of thinking held by just under 50 percent of your fellow Americans and you'll continue to be isolated until one day when you'll just disappear into the background. (shrug) Btw, none of this changes the fact that fascism is and will always remain a rightwing ideology. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/accp/mp1004/image824.gif

[darin]

I rest my case. :rolleyes:

Very good. It's encouraging you have the emotional security to admit - even after I have to brow-beat you - when you're wrong.

[Hagbard Celine]

Very good. It's encouraging you have the emotional security to admit - even after I have to brow-beat you - when you're wrong.

I'm glad you could own up to your own shortcomings without me having to tell you twice.

[theHawk]

I don't think fascism is the correct word to use for either liberals or conservatives. Its actually very anti-conservative, as well as anti-liberal. The problem with the word is there are so many broad definitions of it. Most people immediately just think of Nazi Germany when they hear it, but thats not really what it is. Its really just a term made up by the Italians in the early 20th century which implys that unity is strength.

Most American liberals are what I'd call secular socialists/communists. Namely because their number one goal is to outlaw religion and their belief in a permanent government welfare system.

[darin]

I'm glad you could own up to your own shortcomings without me having to tell you twice.

I have no shortcomings.

[Hagbard Celine]

I have no shortcomings.

That's not what your...oh never mind. :laugh: I agree with the Hawk.

[darin]

I rest my case. :rolleyes: You have this fake idea in your head of what a "liberal" is based on whatever it is you've gleamed from the mucky soup of right-wing blogs and Bill O'Reilly and you've convinced yourself that it's "right" whatever that means but in reality what you've done is isolate yourself in a hatred of a line of thinking held by just under 50 percent of your fellow Americans and you'll continue to be isolated until one day when you'll just disappear into the background. (shrug) Btw, none of this changes the fact that fascism is and will always remain a rightwing ideology.


So now you edit with more bs.

Okay.

I know what a Liberal Is. I know them by their words and actions. In your world, where liberals are your gods, and liberal ideology hatred and bigotry fill your canon, my words hurt. You probably don't like the realities of life - those which show us the Liberal Dogma pointing towards socialists/communist, and even fascist goals. Sobeit. You've closed your mind to things which hurt your feelings, regardless of their truth.

[darin]

That's not what your...oh never mind. :laugh: I agree with the Hawk.

I was baiting you into saying something about my mom or my wife...dammit. :(

I ALMOST put "I have no shortcomings...just ask your girlfriend..." but then I couldn't have very-well banned you for bringing 'families' into this shit.

:D

:cheers2:

[diuretic]

It's okay, it's the Ontario provincial government, you're still safe south of the 49th parallel :)

By the way in some states in Australia police have the power to seize and impound vehicles driven in a dangerous manner. Vehicles which are modified beyond Australian Design Rules are not seized, they're just issued with a notice to get them off the road and then return the vehicle to ADR standards for presentation at an inspection station before being allowed to be driven again.

[Psychoblues]

That is your only strength, dmp.




I was baiting you into saying something about my mom or my wife...dammit. :(

I ALMOST put "I have no shortcomings...just ask your girlfriend..." but then I couldn't have very-well banned you for bringing 'families' into this shit.

:D

:cheers2:

Your girlfriend told me different about you. Is she family yet?

[Psychoblues]

"Okay, then" and then you neg rep me?




That is your only strength, dmp.


Like I said, your only power is in your abiliity to neg rep, ban and otherwise show your ignorance on this board. jimnyc could use a lot better than you not to mention the contributors of this otherwise very fine avenue of political perspective.