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jafar00
07-19-2014, 06:23 PM
As I have been saying all along about Al CIAdah.

It's all a plot to keep Arabs weak and fighting amongst themselves to keep Israel safe. More proof that Israel is a terrorist state. They have even created and supported terrorism throughout the Islamic world for their own benefit.


NSA documents add more detail to plan to destabilize Middle East

According a document recently released by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS, now the Islamic State, is an intelligence asset.The NSA document reveals the United States, Israel, and Britain are responsible for the creation of ISIS.

Earlier this month Nabil Na’eem (http://www.infowars.com/former-al-qaeda-commander-isis-works-for-the-cia/), the founder of the Islamic Democratic Jihad Party and former top al-Qaeda commander, told the Beirut-based pan-Arab TV station al-Maydeen all current al-Qaeda affiliates, including ISIS, work for the CIA.

ISIS is a well-armed and trained terrorist group now in control of large areas of Iraq and Syria.

The NSA document states the group was established by U.S., British and Israeli intelligence as part of a strategy dubbed “the hornet’s nest” to draw Islamic militants from around the world to Syria.

Prior Evidence of al-Baghdadi Link to Intelligence and Military Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi “took intensive military training for a whole year in the hands of Mossad, besides courses in theology and the art of speech,” the documents explain, according to Gulf Daily News (http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=381153), a Bahrainian source.

In June a Jordanian official told Aaron Klein (http://www.infowars.com/blowback-u-s-trained-isis-at-secret-jordan-base/) of WorldNetDaily ISIS members were trained in 2012 by U.S. instructors working at a secret base in Jordan. In 2012 it was reported the U.S., Turkey and Jordan were running a training base for the Syrian rebels in the Jordanian town of Safawi.

Al-Baghdadi was reportedly a “civilian internee” at Camp Bucca, a U.S. military detention facility near Umm Qasr, Iraq. James Skylar Gerrond (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/07/was-camp-bucca-pressure-cooker-extremism), a former U.S. Air Force security forces officer and a compound commander at Camp Bucca in 2006 and 2007, said earlier this month the camp “created a pressure cooker for extremism.”

“Circumstantial evidence suggests that al-Baghdadi may have been mind-controlled while held prisoner by the US military in Iraq,” writes Dr. Kevin Barrett (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/14/371210/who-is-abu-bakr-albaghdadi/).

Creating a Fake Terror Threat The hornet’s nest strategy was designed to create the perception that Israel is threatened by an enemy near its borders.

According to the personal diary of former Israeli prime minister Moshe Sharett, however, Israel never took seriously an Arab or Muslim threat to its national security.

“Sharett’s diary reveals in explicit language that the Israeli political and military leadership never believed in any Arab danger to Israel,” writes Ralph Schoenman (http://www.marxists.org/history/etol/document/mideast/hidden/ch07.htm). “They sought to maneuver and force the Arab states into military confrontations which the Zionist leadership were certain of winning so Israel could carry out the destabilization of Arab regimes and the planned occupation of additional territory.”

In 1982 Oded Yinon, an Israeli journalist with links to the Israeli Foreign Ministry, wrote The Zionist Plan for the Middle East (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The%20Zionist%20Plan%20for%20the%20Middle%20East.p df).

The white paper proposed “that all the Arab states should be broken down, by Israel, into small units” and the “dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unique areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run.”

The destruction of the Arab and Muslim states, Yinon suggested, would be accomplished from within (http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=oded_yinon) by exploiting their internal religious and ethnic tensions.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ea6_1405791782#IT8QxCRWed2GBFEZ.99

Daniyel
07-19-2014, 06:38 PM
This is considered as conspiracy although I would like to research it myself, I'll bring up the results later on.
But it is well known that intelligence agencies train offensive militants all over the world to draw the fire from them and achieve mutual goals, as I said I'll look into it.

jafar00
07-19-2014, 06:41 PM
This is considered as conspiracy although I would like to research it myself, I'll bring up the results later on.

It comes straight from a leaked NSA source. I don't know how much better you can get.

jimnyc
07-19-2014, 06:52 PM
It comes straight from a leaked NSA source. I don't know how much better you can get.

Uhm, no, it doesn't. The links go back to an Iranian site and also mother jones conspiracy crap. There is mention of a document, yet no actual document. I reject this BS as obvious propaganda.

NightTrain
07-19-2014, 07:06 PM
Besides that, Snowden isn't really happy with the United States right about now, what with being an international fugitive and all.

jimnyc
07-19-2014, 07:09 PM
Besides that, Snowden isn't really happy with the United States right about now, what with being an international fugitive and all.

Yeah, I wouldn't suppose the traitor has reason to have an agenda? LOL No doubt he has/had plenty of damning information, but if this were to be believed, it would have documentation. We also wouldn't be getting the information from "mother jones" and Liveleak - this would be front and center on every news station around the world.

jimnyc
07-19-2014, 07:11 PM
I think it's "Alex Jones" actually, the 9/11 conspiracy nutter. :laugh: Hell, just noticed that this isn't even classified as news and is even in their conspiracy section. I suppose some think conspiracy = fact.

jafar00
07-19-2014, 11:19 PM
Uhm, no, it doesn't. The links go back to an Iranian site and also mother jones conspiracy crap. There is mention of a document, yet no actual document. I reject this BS as obvious propaganda.

Less than 1% of Snowden's documents are publicly released so far (http://cryptome.org/2013/11/snowden-tally.htm). Patience....

NightTrain
07-20-2014, 02:24 AM
Less than 1% of Snowden's documents are publicly released so far (http://cryptome.org/2013/11/snowden-tally.htm). Patience....

No rush.

No one is holding their breath.

jimnyc
07-20-2014, 06:35 AM
Less than 1% of Snowden's documents are publicly released so far (http://cryptome.org/2013/11/snowden-tally.htm). Patience....

And yet you go to several threads and try to pass it off as fact? Sorry, it's bullshit conspiracy sites, every last bit of it, 100% of it. Hell, normally you would at least have the shithead out there himself speaking about it. But this is just a small peep, on a death site, leading to a conspiracy site - and you gulped it down like a Big Gulp from 7-11!

Gaffer
07-20-2014, 09:19 AM
Could this have anything to do with George Bush's earthquake machine? Or his hurricane maker? :thumb:

Daniyel
07-20-2014, 09:32 AM
It doesn't matter today, the way I see it Israel achieved great affairs with the Jordanian Mohabarat (Secret Service) and so with the Egyptian GID, the Turkish NIO, and the European/American agencies as well, while the 'enlightened' countries you listed (Syria/Iraq/Iran) got nowhere, underneath the politics it is obvious that Iran/Iraq/Syria is not going anywhere without support from Israel/Egypt/Jordan/Turkey while Russia/China do what the hell they want so I think they can be considered neutral, so tell me what good can come by de-legitimizing the Israeli Mossad/Shabaq? - and this is based on the assumption everything you said is true.

Gaffer
07-20-2014, 10:18 AM
Actually china and russia have a lot to gain by supporting assad, iran and iraq. It keeps the world's attention while they go about taking over areas in their own area of influence. Ukraine, eastern Europe, Japan, Philippines, South China Sea.

Look over there...slap...made you look.

Daniyel
07-20-2014, 10:42 AM
Actually china and russia have a lot to gain by supporting assad, iran and iraq. It keeps the world's attention while they go about taking over areas in their own area of influence. Ukraine, eastern Europe, Japan, Philippines, South China Sea.

Look over there...slap...made you look.
The reason I said they are neutral is simply because they are trying to sell as much military productions as possible,about Russia if it means pinching the US then its just a bonus, so wars is kind of their thing, they can change their support like chameleon changing color.

Drummond
07-20-2014, 12:55 PM
Less than 1% of Snowden's documents are publicly released so far (http://cryptome.org/2013/11/snowden-tally.htm). Patience....

Looking forward to more from him, Jafar ?

Just a couple of days ago, that 'graph' you posted on another thread turned out to be one where its contributors were either documented anti-Semites, or pro-Hamas (.. not that there's much if any difference between the two). You evidently have your agenda, Jafar.

This latest one appears to be another example of that being true.

Snowden is no friend of America, and is a propagandist. I'd say of him that EITHER his 'revelations' are souped-up rot, or, are at minimum leaked in order to do the US the maximum damage imaginable. It seems to me that if you play his game, you are INDEED playing his game.

I'm aware that you're not an American, therefore don't automatically owe the US any debt of allegiance. My suggestion, though, is that you are more candid about what motivates your postings. This would allow, I think, a fairer assessment of them, their worth, whether or not the need to propagandise compromises them.

... just a thought.

jafar00
07-20-2014, 04:03 PM
And yet you go to several threads and try to pass it off as fact? Sorry, it's bullshit conspiracy sites, every last bit of it, 100% of it. Hell, normally you would at least have the shithead out there himself speaking about it. But this is just a small peep, on a death site, leading to a conspiracy site - and you gulped it down like a Big Gulp from 7-11!

7-11 was another false flag attack and you gulped that down.