High school student suspended for NRA t-shirt

[Jeff]

OK no need for me to go on about how silly I think the school acted but I do have to wonder if the kid was wearing a shirt advertizing gay sex I bet nothing would of been said.

But here is the question, what would y'all of done if this was your child, yes I know many will say " I wouldn't of allowed him/her to wear it" well that is fine but we all know kids have away of doing as they please so lets just say your kid got caught wearing the shirt ( a shirt advertising a completely legal company ) what would be your reaction ? Honestly I would of been pissed at the school , when they get the blacks to quit wearing there racial shirts, the girls to quit wearing there Girls are #1 shirts , and so on y'all got the picture than I might teach my kids it is the law and we may not always like the law but we must always live by it, but as long as the laws are only for a certain few I am interested in what others think.


Shane Kinney, 16, refused to turn his NRA shirt inside out when told to do so by teacher.(WGRZ) – The parents of a Grand Island High School sophomore confirm their son was recently made to serve a one day in-school suspension, resulting from his refusal to change clothes after a determination the shirt he was wearing violated the school’s dress code.
Wayne and Kim Kinney describe their son Shane, 16, as an avid outdoorsman and hunter.
Shane, like his parents, is also a member of the National Rifle Association (NRA).



http://www.teaparty.org/high-school-student-suspended-nra-t-shirt-36757/

[Voted4Reagan]

I'll buy the kid a North American Hunting Club T-shirt.

Lets see what they say about that!

[fj1200]

... what would be your reaction ?

What does the dress code say?

[CSM]

What does the dress code say?

It does't say anything. One has to READ it. That fact may explain a lot.

[Gaffer]

I'd buy him four more just like it and one for me to wear when I go in to talk to the principle.

[fj1200]

It does't say anything. One has to READ it. That fact may explain a lot.

The story says he violated it so it must say something. And remember, kids don't have free speech rights like the rest of us.

[jimnyc]

The story says he violated it so it must say something. And remember, kids don't have free speech rights like the rest of us.

They say he wore the same shirt previously. Also, that it was specifically the guns that had them upset. I'd be curious myself to see if the code was changed, or if it somehow excludes guns/NRA which in no means is promoting violence, if that is their stance.

[jimnyc]

Ok, found another article. Apparently he was told about this before but had then covered it with duct tape, but this time he refused. Here is the policy:


Officials at the school cited the dress code which prohibits any clothing that might incite or encourage “violent activities.”

I would LOVE to see them articulate how wearing an NRA shirt and '2nd Amendment shall not be infringed' in ANY way incites or encourages violent activities.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/13/new-york-high-school-suspended-for-nra-pro-2nd-amendment-t-shirt/

[CSM]

Ok, found another article. Apparently he was told about this before but had then covered it with duct tape, but this time he refused. Here is the policy:



I would LOVE to see them articulate how wearing an NRA shirt and '2nd Amendment shall not be infringed' in ANY way incites or encourages violent activities.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/13/new-york-high-school-suspended-for-nra-pro-2nd-amendment-t-shirt/

It is common knowledge that the mere presence of a firearm or facsimile thereof, (to include photographs, gestures, drawings or any other suggestion initimating a firearm) drives any liberal within a 10 mile radius to commit violence. It's all in the name of safety and for the children, of course.

[gabosaurus]

I'd buy him four more just like it and one for me to wear when I go in to talk to the principle.

First of all, the principle mistake you make here is that you can't spell principal. :p

All schools have the right to regulate what students wear. If the kid had worn a shirt that said "Kill Gun Nuts Now" or "I Love Allah," they would have made him change his shirt as well. But I am guessing that single-minded conservative loonies would not be objecting to that.
The kid was trolling. Perhaps not in the Redneck South, but in most areas of the country. Parents know what the dress code is in their kid's schools. They should not have let the kid out of the house with that shirt on.
In our schools, kids can't wear shirts with ANY printed message not associated with the school. Less trouble that way.

[jimnyc]

First of all, the principle mistake you make here is that you can't spell principal. :p

All schools have the right to regulate what students wear. If the kid had worn a shirt that said "Kill Gun Nuts Now" or "I Love Allah," they would have made him change his shirt as well. But I am guessing that single-minded conservative loonies would not be objecting to that.
The kid was trolling. Perhaps not in the Redneck South, but in most areas of the country. Parents know what the dress code is in their kid's schools. They should not have let the kid out of the house with that shirt on.
In our schools, kids can't wear shirts with ANY printed message not associated with the school. Less trouble that way.

And retards like yourself that are involved in our school systems are why they are so fucked up and are making our kids worse with the stupidity they put them through.

[Jeff]

And retards like yourself that are involved in our school systems are why they are so fucked up and are making our kids worse with the stupidity they put them through.

Jim you are giving way to much credit here , I find it hard to believe even in a world that is as fucked up as LA that any school system would hire someone that spews nothing but hatred, someone that toots there own horn but has been proven wrong on just about any subject, yes even in LA they have a little sense I mean seriously would you want this around your son ? Well I don't think any parent ( even those from the land of fruits and nuts ) want this around there kids and this is not a one shot deal this is Gabby, she has been this way since day one so NO this isn't a internet tuff guy scenario this is the real person.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

First of all, the principle mistake you make here is that you can't spell principal. :p

All schools have the right to regulate what students wear. If the kid had worn a shirt that said "Kill Gun Nuts Now" or "I Love Allah," they would have made him change his shirt as well. But I am guessing that single-minded conservative loonies would not be objecting to that.
The kid was trolling. Perhaps not in the Redneck South, but in most areas of the country. Parents know what the dress code is in their kid's schools. They should not have let the kid out of the house with that shirt on.
In our schools, kids can't wear shirts with ANY printed message not associated with the school. Less trouble that way.


It is well known that when a poster points out a spelling error they are essentially highlighting their own supposed superiority. Even if a better speller what does it prove ? It proves nothing about the opposing points being made. And then an insult about "Redneck South "just highlights more ignorance Gabby. I hope you will research more about the South and if you do you will find that we actually even have education and higher education even here! Granted its only a tad better than elsewhere but it does exist. Here is a shocker, some of us spend our entire lives --"book learning"- :laugh:. Ceptin' wez callz it readin'..

I was reading at 4 years old and have a 56 year history of non-stop reading. I make it a point to read every week (have a huge library to maintain that exercise) . As much as this nation has been dumbed down in the last 40 years I dare say that you at your younger age haven't had as good an education as those 10/20 years older than you.

Dial it back a bit and perhaps others will see more of your good qualities.. It is a principle I have that leads me to give this friendly suggestion. I hope you'll pardon my "Southern Redneck" philosophy of believing in freedom, justice, our Constitution and yes even giving unsolicited friendly advice..
Have you ever heard the term, "Southern hospitality"?? Well, it came to be because it exists so your condemnation of we poor Southern creatures and our love of guns equating our having a savage and barbaric mentality is in error. No doubt reinforced by the false Hollywood presentation of Southern hillbillies. As if there are not any Northern hillbillies. I could give evidence of such but do not care to defame people that are already handicapped by poverty, lack of education and less opportunities. -Tyr

[Gaffer]

The story says he violated it so it must say something. And remember, kids don't have free speech rights like the rest of us.

Only because the feds, the states , local school boards and schools have replaced those rights with rules, regulations and codes over many years. Getting rid of your rights is a slow process.

[fj1200]

Only because the feds, the states , local school boards and schools have replaced those rights with rules, regulations and codes over many years. Getting rid of your rights is a slow process.

Kids are not deserving of full unrestricted rights.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Only because the feds, the states , local school boards and schools have replaced those rights with rules, regulations and codes over many years. Getting rid of your rights is a slow process. Yes, they knew the "frog in the pot" wouldn't feel it until it was too late. I started raising hell about this crap 21 years ago when my daughter started her indoctrination program. Quickly saw nothing to be done because majority of others were ever so blind. Only remedy was to spend loads of time re-teaching my daughter. I did a fine job and she turned out just fine IMHO. I wished that more people had seen sooner and stood against it. Same wish now in regards to Obama, his destruction and treason but its a no go. Far too many have graduated from the government indoctrination process and far to many have been bought out by dem/socialist freebies. Currently we are in quicksand right up to our chins!! No way to reverse it unless by way of civil war. Sad to have to say.. And that is because the government has the power to force that being the only path and trust me they will. They will when they are ready. Buying up billions of bullets and shipping stateside to police departments military vehicles looks to be a prep for that sooner rather than later. Thank the messiah and the asses that voted for the traitor not just once but twice! Should (heaven forbid) a civil war calamity come to pass I pray ALL those people get their just rewards .. Every damn one of them.......!!!!!!! -Tyr

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Kids are not deserving of full unrestricted rights. That's because kids these days stay as kids until late 20's. I was a man by age 17. I was up North living with my older brother finishing school and paying my own way in life. I didn't lay my ass up on mommie and daddie until mid to late 20's all the while demanding to be cared for like a child! In the 70's even schools treated 17 and 18 year olds like young adults. Now we have dems making it so that they can lay up on their asses until early thirties. Passing laws to insure responsibility is delayed another decade to go from childhood to manhood. Doing so because lazy and bought out bastards tend to vote for dems and their damn freebies. Freebies that the working people have to pay for.. -Tyr

[tailfins]

Jim you are giving way to much credit here , I find it hard to believe even in a world that is as fucked up as LA that any school system would hire someone that spews nothing but hatred, someone that toots there own horn but has been proven wrong on just about any subject, yes even in LA they have a little sense I mean seriously would you want this around your son ? Well I don't think any parent ( even those from the land of fruits and nuts ) want this around there kids and this is not a one shot deal this is Gabby, she has been this way since day one so NO this isn't a internet tuff guy scenario this is the real person.

If too many parents get outraged, she can always go to work for Child Protective Services, then she can fully disregard parents and even the kids wishes.

Tell me if she would fit right in:

http://massoutrage.com/ma/cps-resources/dcf-dirty-tricks/


Men are Abusers, Women are Victims, Children are OursMost DCF agents actually believe that children should belong to the state, and that parents are evil. Their motto could be:

MEN ARE ABUSERS.
WOMEN ARE VICTIMS.
CHILDREN ARE OURS.
This changes only if the woman will not become a victim for them, or if the man feminizes himself properly. If you play the victim (even a male victim), and you "need" them, they will work with you. If you keep your dignity and independence (even if you are a woman), then you must be crushed. Victims thrive in their perverse world. Independent people who do not need them have their children taken away.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

If too many parents get outraged, she can always go to work for Child Protective Services, then she can fully disregard parents and even the kids wishes.

Tell me if she would fit right in:

http://massoutrage.com/ma/cps-resources/dcf-dirty-tricks/ Dead on accurate about DHS. They are a version of the Nazi Gestapo;. IMHO. -TYR

[gabosaurus]

So what some of you are saying is that schools should not be able to tell students how to dress. Despite the fact that most schools worldwide have strict dress codes or uniforms. And that many workplaces tell you how to dress. Schools are workplaces.

[jimnyc]

So what some of you are saying is that schools should not be able to tell students how to dress. Despite the fact that most schools worldwide have strict dress codes or uniforms. And that many workplaces tell you how to dress. Schools are workplaces.

No, they aren't, not even close. Workplaces have a very unique set of laws and guidelines in which they work under, which is FAR from what students must adhere to. An NO ONE said a school couldn't tell kids how to dress, why do you make things up? Is that your only way of making points, by either making shit up or referring to Bush somehow? Pathetic.

[gabosaurus]

No, they aren't, not even close. Workplaces have a very unique set of laws and guidelines in which they work under, which is FAR from what students must adhere to. An NO ONE said a school couldn't tell kids how to dress, why do you make things up? Is that your only way of making points, by either making shit up or referring to Bush somehow? Pathetic.

Then what was your point in stating that kids should be able to wear specific shirts to school? You are defying your own logic. I know about these things because I work in schools. As opposed to sitting around all day doing nothing.

[jimnyc]

Then what was your point in stating that kids should be able to wear specific shirts to school? You are defying your own logic. I know about these things because I work in schools. As opposed to sitting around all day doing nothing.

Did you not READ what I wrote? They have a dress code, which he was following. Unless YOU can articulate how wearing an NRA shirt somehow promotes violence. It doesn't, so don't bother.

WHERE did I state - "kids should be able to wear specific shirts to school?"

I spoke about a SPECIFIC shirt and here you are AGAIN making shit up.

And I sit around all day? Like your loser of a husband who married down, to a "broken" bitch who is educated as much as a monkey with a banana? And lying about what one does like you do constantly? And you "work" in schools? You wouldn't know the meaning, neither you nor your hubby who looks like he is infected with AIDS.

[NightTrain]

:popcorn:

[gabosaurus]

And I sit around all day? Like your loser of a husband who married down, to a "broken" bitch who is educated as much as a monkey with a banana? And lying about what one does like you do constantly? And you "work" in schools? You wouldn't know the meaning, neither you nor your hubby who looks like he is infected with AIDS.

There you go, getting personal again. I am not attacking you personally, just answering the questions. And yet you are throwing a cyber tantrum because you can't get someone to accept your point of view.
Dude, I am as bipolar as you are. I know exactly what is happening here. I don't need to be the scapegoat for your personal problems nor your inability to reason and react properly.
And if you really need to know, my husband makes more money than you do. I make more money than you do. My daughter is smarter than you are.
Also, my husband gets boobies. Such as they are. :boobies:

All I have to say for now. :slap:

[jimnyc]

:popcorn:

I ask you Rick - if some unknown liberal gal starts accusing you of sitting around all day doing nothing, while consistently bragging how great they are, how educated and how ever so busy... I'd be eating popcorn after reading your reply too. I'm sick and tired of liberals talking smack to me - and even more so when it's someone you always defend. And even more so when it's someone you though befriended you, and acts like your friend at times in private, but then makes such accusation types in threads.

[jimnyc]

There you go, getting personal again. I am not attacking you personally, just answering the questions. And yet you are throwing a cyber tantrum because you can't get someone to accept your point of view.
Dude, I am as bipolar as you are. I know exactly what is happening here. I don't need to be the scapegoat for your personal problems nor your inability to reason and react properly.
And if you really need to know, my husband makes more money than you do. I make more money than you do. My daughter is smarter than you are.
Also, my husband gets boobies. Such as they are. :boobies:

All I have to say for now. :slap:

Not attacking me - then what did you mean with - "As opposed to sitting around all day doing nothing." Save it, I know what you meant, it's not the first time you have done so.

Your husband can make more, doesn't mean he's not a loser, or that he doesn't look like an AIDS patient. I'm sure you make more too, those sexual positions pay well. I won't enter the arena about kids, but wouldn't surprise me if she is more intelligent than you, does she share your genes? NOPE.

[NightTrain]

Seriously, Jim, you KNEW you weren't going to get anywhere with her.

Troll just trolled you.

If there were two more like her at DP, it'd be as bad around here as the yahoo boards.

[NightTrain]

I ask you Rick - if some unknown liberal gal starts accusing you of sitting around all day doing nothing, while consistently bragging how great they are, how educated and how ever so busy... I'd be eating popcorn after reading your reply too. I'm sick and tired of liberals talking smack to me - and even more so when it's someone you always defend. And even more so when it's someone you though befriended you, and acts like your friend at times in private, but then makes such accusation types in threads.

I know, buddy.

The silly bitch isn't worth getting worked up about, though. I really don't see any benefit to having a professional, lying troll around to derail threads... I've already told you a few times what my opinion is.

I would have booted her sorry ass years ago, she's as useful as PyschoBabble or MaineMan was.

[gabosaurus]

Not attacking me - then what did you mean with - "As opposed to sitting around all day doing nothing." Save it, I know what you meant, it's not the first time you have done so.


What makes you think I was referring to you? It meant that I would rather be working in a school than doing nothing. Do you have a guilt complex or something? Why do you take everything I say personally? I don't take any comment made about me here personally. It's all water off a duck's back.



I would have booted her sorry ass years ago, she's as useful as PyschoBabble or MaineMan was.


Jim is free to do this at any time. It's his board. He can do whatever he wants.

[jimnyc]

I know, buddy.

The silly bitch isn't worth getting worked up about, though. I really don't see any benefit to having a professional, lying troll around to derail threads... I've already told you a few times what my opinion is.

I would have booted her sorry ass years ago, she's as useful as PyschoBabble or MaineMan was.

What irks me more than anything is the amount of times I have defended her. Even recently there were a minimum of 2 threads, in where she was attacked by the majority and I defended her as a member. I don't let political beliefs change how I feel about someone. I may even like someone more if they are kind, and friendly in PM when I talk to people. Some people tend to act like you are a friend when in private but then bite you in public. But I'll be damned if I will come here and defend her in front of all the members, only to have her talk shit to me in return. I got on her case for going after a few members she hates, unprovoked in certain threads, but she thinks that's cool. But do so to me? When I defend her, or ask a question? No thanks, I've been made an ass out of more times than I care to remember, not happening anymore.

[jimnyc]

What makes you think I was referring to you?

Because it was ME you replied to, you fucking ignorant piece of garbage, who will now backtrack and make the lamest of excuses and twisting of words to make it look like you didn't do what you obviously did. Fuck off.

[tailfins]

Because it was ME you replied to, you fucking ignorant piece of garbage, who will now backtrack and make the lamest of excuses and twisting of words to make it look like you didn't do what you obviously did. Fuck off.

Lock her in the CAGE!!!

[Gaffer]

Kids are not deserving of full unrestricted rights.

So who is deserving? What criteria is required to be deserving of unrestricted rights, and who determines that criteria.

[NightTrain]

Because it was ME you replied to, you fucking ignorant piece of garbage, who will now backtrack and make the lamest of excuses and twisting of words to make it look like you didn't do what you obviously did. Fuck off.

I almost quoted her tripe and made her eat her lame attempt at twisting her words, but I resisted.


Trolls will troll.

[tailfins]

I almost quoted her tripe and made her eat her lame attempt at twisting her words, but I resisted.


Trolls will troll.

Jim, where is your sadistic side? Figure out ways to torture her without banning her. :pee:When dealing with women like Gabby in public, it's important to know the law. For example if you're dealing with a nasty feminist at a gas station that says "I don't need any man to hold a door for me." If you pull out a 20 and say "blow me", that's illegal. If you say "You should go work at a strip club. That's all you're good for." That's not illegal.

[Jeff]

What irks me more than anything is the amount of times I have defended her. Even recently there were a minimum of 2 threads, in where she was attacked by the majority and I defended her as a member. I don't let political beliefs change how I feel about someone. I may even like someone more if they are kind, and friendly in PM when I talk to people. Some people tend to act like you are a friend when in private but then bite you in public. But I'll be damned if I will come here and defend her in front of all the members, only to have her talk shit to me in return. I got on her case for going after a few members she hates, unprovoked in certain threads, but she thinks that's cool. But do so to me? When I defend her, or ask a question? No thanks, I've been made an ass out of more times than I care to remember, not happening anymore.


:laugh::laugh: Yes just last week you where going on about how you wished she would come back :laugh: and what a good poster she can be at times :laugh:

Wish to rethink those post ?? :laugh:

Yes having lost many rep points and friends ( internet friends ) for this very reason only to be attacked buy the very person I stood up for only proved to me gabby must love the smut she gets from some, because the more ya protect her the more she will attack and then give lame explanations but you can forget a thank you

[jimnyc]

I apologize for my nasty words and dropping to an embarrassing level - again. It was definitely personal towards me, for no reason, but I upped the ante rather high after being jumped on myself. Hopefully I will learn from my mistakes, and maybe just learn to ignore/avoid people that have a way of making my bad side come out. Uncalled for by myself. It's disappointing when you 'think' you made a friend, only to find out you were only dumb enough to 'think' that, but it wasn't the case. My bad, I shouldn't have befriended or defended. I've done this dance several times with the same person, and am always dumb enough to fall for a few PM's of niceties. Hopefully it won't happen again.

As for banning or tossing anyone though? Nah, ain't necessary. I'll never defend again though.

Time for a vacation when posting with people brings this out of me.

[fj1200]

So who is deserving? What criteria is required to be deserving of unrestricted rights, and who determines that criteria.

Generally 18 I think. There are plenty of protections that kids don't get in schools for example, speech, search and seizure, etc.

And I get to decide. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

And if you really need to know, my husband makes more money than you do.

Which proves nothing that matters a hill of beans Gabby. And represents an elitist attitude which ill becomes anybody IMHO.-Tyr


I make more money than you do.

See previous reply...--Tyr


My daughter is smarter than you are.

Again something to be proud of if true but not something to be used to insult another with. Being proud of our kids and their good qualities/character is to be admired IMHO. Which is why I made no rude comment when you bragged about your daughter impressing quoting verses of the Koran. Common courtesy et all..

I can dare say this truth --most likely my IQ is at least as high are the most intelligent members here but that does nothing to prove either my true worth or true character. Both of which are improving daily as I attempt to be a better man. Intelligence is only one part of our spirit and soul.

Perhaps you should consider apologizing for this particular post even if not doing so for previous posts in this thread. If it were me I'd apologize and thus prove my intelligence claims are not crap. Think about it.. Tis' a friendly suggestion..

Know this, material wealth pales in comparison to that of true worth and honor. -Tyr



http://www.openbible.info/topics/material_wealth


86 Bible Verses about
Material Wealth
Matthew 6:19-21 ESV / 36 helpful votes

“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.




1 Timothy 6:7-10 ESV / 35 helpful votes

For we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world. But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.




Matthew 6:24 ESV / 24 helpful votes

“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.




Proverbs 11:28 ESV / 21 helpful votes

Whoever trusts in his riches will fall, but the righteous will flourish like a green leaf.
Whether this started as a misunderstanding or not your quoted post I just replied to serves to validate at least to some extent what others have often claimed about you. I know nobody is perfect but making amends when necessary proves a strong and honorable character IMHO..

Myself, I had hoped to see a better character exhibited.. For what its worth ...just sayin'...-Tyr

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

So who is deserving? What criteria is required to be deserving of unrestricted rights, and who determines that criteria.

Criteria set by the dem/libs is those that are abnormal, perverted and/or evil qualify for "special rights" . All others qualify to have even their basic rights taken away. One good look at the legislation and regulations they birth and promote proves this accusation is 100% true.. Such a strategy so relentlessly pursued by them can only reveal that they prefer evil over good and criminal acts over civil obedience while they indulge in patting themselves on their very confused "nappy little heads".. :laugh:-

They simply hate me when I am having a face to face confrontation with them because I make them look like the overall ignorant asses they most assuredly are. -m :beer:-Tyr

[tailfins]

I apologize for my nasty words and dropping to an embarrassing level - again. It was definitely personal towards me, for no reason, but I upped the ante rather high after being jumped on myself. Hopefully I will learn from my mistakes, and maybe just learn to ignore/avoid people that have a way of making my bad side come out. Uncalled for by myself. It's disappointing when you 'think' you made a friend, only to find out you were only dumb enough to 'think' that, but it wasn't the case. My bad, I shouldn't have befriended or defended. I've done this dance several times with the same person, and am always dumb enough to fall for a few PM's of niceties. Hopefully it won't happen again.

As for banning or tossing anyone though? Nah, ain't necessary. I'll never defend again though.

Time for a vacation when posting with people brings this out of me.

Don't sweat it, Jim. No apology needed. There's no shame in that game. Embarrassment is overrated. Some people make good urinal mats. Gabby is one of those people. :carryon::pee:

I recommend you go do some things that embarrass you with the intent of desensitizing yourself from embarrassment. It gives you an amazing freedom.

[Jeff]

http://global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/U.S./NRAtee.jpg


A picture of the dreaded shirt, yes it looks like it would spark all kinds of violence :rolleyes:

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/U.S./NRAtee.jpg


A picture of the dreaded shirt, yes it looks like it would spark all kinds of violence :rolleyes:

Yes, one can just see violence written all over that shirt. :rolleyes: We as Americans should unite to stop this absurd and unpatriotic agenda being crammed down our collective throats. Should be passing state laws stopping it --to hell with the damn Feds and their influence !! -Tyr