98% of stories ignore that ice-bound ship was on Global Warming mission

[Little-Acorn]

You can't make this stuff up, folks.

Time and again, when liberal fanatics schedule events that are supposed to point out how the earth is warming, they wind up getting cancelled because of snow, delayed due to extreme cold, or (in this case) the entire ship that is supposed to demonstrate how sea ice around the South Pole is melting away, gets stuck in "unexpectedly heavy sea ice"!

And naturally, instead of reporting the truth, the media hastily turns away and covers up what really happened.

God keeps giving these people hints. Again, and again, and again. And they keep ignoring them. :laugh:

That's never a wise thing to do.

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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mike-ciandella/2014/01/02/frozen-out-98-stories-ignore-ice-bound-ship-was-global-warming-missi

Frozen Out: 98% of Stories Ignore That Ice-bound Ship Was On Global Warming Mission

By Mike Ciandella | January 2, 2014 | 12:43

A group of climate change scientists were rescued by helicopter Jan. 2, after being stranded in the ice since Christmas morning. But the majority of the broadcast networks’ reports about the ice-locked climate researchers never mentioned climate change.

In fact, rather than point out the mission was to find evidence of climate change, the networks often referred to the stranded people as “passengers,” “trackers” and even “tourists,” without a word about climate change or global warming.

[pete311]

Last year I took a ship to the north pole. They recorded record lows for multi year ice. Two months ago I took a ship to antarctica via the drake passage. They also recorded record lows for sea ice. 90% of glaciers worldwide are shrinking (by miles). Stop cherry picking and making things up.

[Gaffer]

Last year I took a ship to the north pole. They recorded record lows for multi year ice. Two months ago I took a ship to antarctica via the drake passage. They also recorded record lows for sea ice. 90% of glaciers worldwide are shrinking (by miles). Stop cherry picking and making things up.

Do you take trips like that often? I think you missed your boat, the one that got stuck in the ice. Were you going as a tourist?

Global warming it not real. It was made up so the liberal elites could make laws controlling the population and economy. Look at the coal industry, the oil industry, food production for prime examples. If you believe in global warming your a fool. It doesn't say much for your superior intelligence that you like to brag about.

Perhaps you would like to explain the global warming going on on Mars. Somehow I don't think man has effected that planet in any way. I'd offer you a cherry but they're not in season, it's too cold.

[pete311]

Do you take trips like that often? I think you missed your boat, the one that got stuck in the ice. Were you going as a tourist?

Global warming it not real. It was made up so the liberal elites could make laws controlling the population and economy. Look at the coal industry, the oil industry, food production for prime examples. If you believe in global warming your a fool. It doesn't say much for your superior intelligence that you like to brag about.

Perhaps you would like to explain the global warming going on on Mars. Somehow I don't think man has effected that planet in any way. I'd offer you a cherry but they're not in season, it's too cold.

My passion is travel, I try to get somewhere interesting every couple months. I was on as a tourist, but it was expedition style.

Certainly there are questions, but the scientific community (who are not liberal elites) as a whole agrees there is climate change. 90% of glaciers are retreating by distances measured in miles. Sea ice is at record low numbers. Ocean temperatures are rising.

NASA hosts some of the top minds in the world and are not "liberal elite".
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence

The concept of climate change is indisputable. What is up for debate is what is causing it (although 97% of climate scientists agree humans contribute), what we can do about it and what the consequences are. Don't mix up the science with the politics.

[Abbey Marie]

Even our best scientific minds can have two major deficits when analyzing global warming:

1. The inability to see definitive climate changes over the history of the planet
2. Personal bias

[pete311]

2. Personal bias

That's why the scientific method and the peer review system is so important. Conspiracy involving tens of thousands of scientists around the globe is not worth anyone's time considering.

[Little-Acorn]

Last year I took a ship to the north pole. They recorded record lows for multi year ice. Two months ago I took a ship to antarctica via the drake passage. They also recorded record lows for sea ice. 90% of glaciers worldwide are shrinking (by miles). Stop cherry picking and making things up.
So, you are a nuc? What command?

[Little-Acorn]

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/Foden20140101-Global%20Warm20140101111909.jpg

[pete311]

So, you are a nuc? What command?

what is a nuc?

[gabosaurus]

You can't make this stuff up, folks.

How do you know that Newsbusters wasn't making most of that up?

[jafar00]

You do realise that Antarctica is still surrounded by sea ice in the Summer right?

[gabosaurus]

You do realise that Antarctica is still surrounded by sea ice in the Summer right?

They don't realize anything that is not announced on Fox News or written in a right-wing blog such as Newsbusters.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Do you take trips like that often? I think you missed your boat, the one that got stuck in the ice. Were you going as a tourist?

Global warming it not real. It was made up so the liberal elites could make laws controlling the population and economy. Look at the coal industry, the oil industry, food production for prime examples. If you believe in global warming your a fool. It doesn't say much for your superior intelligence that you like to brag about.

Perhaps you would like to explain the global warming going on on Mars. Somehow I don't think man has effected that planet in any way. I'd offer you a cherry but they're not in season, it's too cold.
Quite likely he is a liberal living off of the government tit. :laugh::laugh::laugh: Could be one of those global warming sell outs that take the government grant money and then cheer how the government tell them to. A very plausible theory based on the cheering he has thus far engaged in. :laugh: --Tyr

[pete311]

Quite likely he is a liberal living off of the government tit. :laugh::laugh::laugh: Could be one of those global warming sell outs that take the government grant money and then cheer how the government tell them to. A very plausible theory based on the cheering he has thus far engaged in. :laugh: --Tyr

I've been a small business owner for 12 years and pay more taxes than I care to ever think about

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

That's why the scientific method and the peer review system is so important. Conspiracy involving tens of thousands of scientists around the globe is not worth anyone's time considering. First it was thousands now you say tens of thousands. While you pretend none of them benefit from government grants from governments using the global warming scam to further an agenda. I'd say the estimation of your true IQ goes down at a hefty rate every time you post another post .

[pete311]

First it was thousands now you say tens of thousands. While you pretend none of them benefit from government grants from governments using the global warming scam to further an agenda. I'd say the estimation of your true IQ goes down at a hefty rate every time you post another post .

good one :clap:

[Little-Acorn]

what is a nuc?

If you had "taken a ship to the North Pole" as you claim, then you would know exactly what a nuc is.

Once more, what command?

[pete311]

If you had "taken a ship to the North Pole" as you claim, then you would know exactly what a nuc is.

Once more, what command?

Nope sorry don't know what a nuc is and not part of a command.

I took the 50 Let Pobedy. A russian nuclear ice breaker. Most powerful ship in the world.
http://www.navis-ag.com/_docs/img/2013-03%20-%2050%20Let%20Pobedy.jpg?PHPSESSID=

[Gaffer]

The so called global warming figures you throw out are nothing more than inflated bullshit. It's been proven that global warming is a hoax and the figures manipulated, or wasn't that mentioned in your preferred sites? Yes there is a cause for global warming, it's called the sun.

For someone that's such a science fan I would think you would have a better understanding about how the climate works. Global warming is nothing but a money making scheme with liberals using it to make laws to control people. The only people claiming 98% of the scientists agree on global warming are the libs and algore. Sea levels are not rising, ice is not disappearing. The polar bears population is up dramatically. It's summer in Antarctica and the sea ice is melting and breaking away like it always does. It happens to be thicker than usual this year, so the ice breaker got stuck.

Another fact. One active volcano puts out more gases into the atmosphere than the entire population of this planet. Maybe you should visit a volcano on your next trip. As for NASA, they're busy teaching muslims to be proud of their heritage, I wouldn't count on them to do anything until we get a real president.

[pete311]

Another fact. One active volcano puts out more gases into the atmosphere than the entire population of this planet. Maybe you should visit a volcano on your next trip. As for NASA, they're busy teaching muslims to be proud of their heritage, I wouldn't count on them to do anything until we get a real president.

Fact? Your post is a glaring example of ignorance.

"Volcanoes emit around 0.3 billion tonnes of CO2 per year. This is about 1% of human CO2 emissions which is around 29 billion tonnes per year."
http://www.skepticalscience.com/volcanoes-and-global-warming-intermediate.htm

Sea level is rising at an increasing rate
http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html

Ice extent in the Arctic was below average during November
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

A persistent myth to the contrary, polar bear numbers are NOT increasing
http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/about-polar-bears/what-scientists-say/are-polar-bear-populations-booming

[aboutime]

Fact? Your post is a glaring example of ignorance.

"Volcanoes emit around 0.3 billion tonnes of CO2 per year. This is about 1% of human CO2 emissions which is around 29 billion tonnes per year."
http://www.skepticalscience.com/volcanoes-and-global-warming-intermediate.htm

Sea level is rising at an increasing rate
http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html

Ice extent in the Arctic was below average during November
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

A persistent myth to the contrary, polar bear numbers are NOT increasing
http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/about-polar-bears/what-scientists-say/are-polar-bear-populations-booming



pete. How bout telling all of us about the phony landings on the Moon too?

[pete311]

pete. How bout telling all of us about the phony landings on the Moon too?

what

[Gaffer]

Fact? Your post is a glaring example of ignorance.

"Volcanoes emit around 0.3 billion tonnes of CO2 per year. This is about 1% of human CO2 emissions which is around 29 billion tonnes per year."
http://www.skepticalscience.com/volcanoes-and-global-warming-intermediate.htm

Sea level is rising at an increasing rate
http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html

Ice extent in the Arctic was below average during November
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

A persistent myth to the contrary, polar bear numbers are NOT increasing
http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/about-polar-bears/what-scientists-say/are-polar-bear-populations-booming

All pro-global warming sites, imagine that. You do know they have to keep the propaganda out there? Keep those federal dollars rolling in.

I noticed the site about volcanoes only mentioned CO2. They didn't mention all the other stuff like methane, sulfer oxide, carbon monoxide, and a host of other gases, plus ash. Try looking at some real science sites. And just because it has .gov in it's name doesn't mean it's not garbage. Being a libertarian I would think you would know that.

[aboutime]

what


I didn't stutter pete. Conspiracy junkies are a dime a dozen...sometimes, cheaper.

[pete311]

All pro-global warming sites, imagine that. You do know they have to keep the propaganda out there? Keep those federal dollars rolling in.

I noticed the site about volcanoes only mentioned CO2. They didn't mention all the other stuff like methane, sulfer oxide, carbon monoxide, and a host of other gases, plus ash. Try looking at some real science sites. And just because it has .gov in it's name doesn't mean it's not garbage. Being a libertarian I would think you would know that.

I'm at a no win situation because no source will satisfy you. But I'm going to find some "real science" sites for you anyway

Humans Dwarf Volcanoes for CO2 Emissions
http://news.discovery.com/earth/weather-extreme-events/volcanoes-co2-people-emissions-climate-110627.htm

Volcanic Emissions & Global Cooling
http://plaza.ufl.edu/airwess/

Rising Waters: How Fast and How Far Will Sea Levels Rise?
http://e360.yale.edu/feature/rising_waters_how_fast_and_how_far_will_sea_levels _rise/2702/

Global Warming and Polar Bears
http://www.nwf.org/Wildlife/Threats-to-Wildlife/Global-Warming/Effects-on-Wildlife-and-Habitat/Polar-Bears.aspx

As Arctic Sea Ice Declines, Polar Bear Patrol Gets Busy
http://e360.yale.edu/feature/as_arctic_sea_ice_declines_polar_bear_patrol_gets_ busy/2497/

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

pete. How bout telling all of us about the phony landings on the Moon too?
This from your polar bear link. --Tyr

Q: Why all the fuss about polar bears? Aren't their populations increasing: in fact, booming?

A: One of the most frequent myths we hear about polar bears is that their numbers are increasing and have, in fact, more than doubled over the past thirty years. Tales about how many polar bears there used to be (with claims as low as 5,000 in the 1960s) are undocumented, but cited over and over again. Yet no one I know can come up with a legitimate source for these numbers.*

One Russian extrapolation presented in 1956 suggested a number of 5,000 to 8,000, but that figure was never accepted by scientists. The fact is that in the 1960s we had no idea how many polar bears there were. Even now, about half of our population estimates are only educated guesses. Back then, the best we had over most of the polar bear's range were uneducated guesses. Polar bear science has come a long way since then.

We do know (and I have published papers on this) that some polar bear populations grew after quotas were imposed in Canada, aerial hunting ceased in Alaska, and trapping and hunting were banned in Svalbard. All of these events occurred in the late 60s or early 70s, and we know some populations responded—as you would expect. Some populations were not being hunted back then (or were hunted very little) and those were probably unaffected by these three actions.

Back then, the sea ice was solid and not noticeably in retreat. With stable habitat, polar bears were a renewable resource that could be harvested on a sustainable basis.

But the most important point is that whatever happened in the past is really irrelevant. Polar bear habitat is disappearing due to global warming. Even the most careful on-the-ground management doesn't matter if polar bears don't have the required habitat. I find it ever so telling that your link includes its own refutation. Then it goes on to allow for such better methods today. haha. Yes, better methods commonly known as lying to suit an agenda. -Tyr

One Russian extrapolation presented in 1956 suggested a number of 5,000 to 8,000, but that figure was never accepted by scientists. The fact is that in the 1960s we had no idea how many polar bears there were. Even now, about half of our population estimates are only educated guesses. Back then, the best we had over most of the polar bear's range were uneducated guesses. Polar bear science has come a long way since then.

[KarlMarx]

The plan:

1. Get everyone to believe global warming, (aka climate change) is a happening and something must be done about it

2. Impose a global wide carbon tax on every man, woman, child, and anything that moves

3. Suddenly, the problem is solved!


and the "redistribution of wealth" box on the progressive agenda can be checked off

[Abbey Marie]

I'm at a no win situation because no source will satisfy you. But I'm going to find some "real science" sites for you anyway

Humans Dwarf Volcanoes for CO2 Emissions
http://news.discovery.com/earth/weather-extreme-events/volcanoes-co2-people-emissions-climate-110627.htm

Volcanic Emissions & Global Cooling
http://plaza.ufl.edu/airwess/

Rising Waters: How Fast and How Far Will Sea Levels Rise?
http://e360.yale.edu/feature/rising_waters_how_fast_and_how_far_will_sea_levels _rise/2702/

Global Warming and Polar Bears
http://www.nwf.org/Wildlife/Threats-to-Wildlife/Global-Warming/Effects-on-Wildlife-and-Habitat/Polar-Bears.aspx

As Arctic Sea Ice Declines, Polar Bear Patrol Gets Busy
http://e360.yale.edu/feature/as_arctic_sea_ice_declines_polar_bear_patrol_gets_ busy/2497/

Oh you mean like the Washington Post and a census as sources won't satisfy you?

[Gaffer]

Create an evil entity (carbon). Promote it as a threat and propagandize against it. Use the the stand Most scientists confirm routine. (4 out of 5 doctors recommend) Form govt agencies to deal with it (EPA) Go after industries and shut down those that won't comply. (Coal, oil) Regulate and tax everything involved with the industries. (IRS) Make grants and money available to any scientist that gets on board. (Govt funding and pork projects)

It's all about controlling private industry. Setting up a one party system and finally a dictatorship. It's been in the works since 1972. Global warming is nothing more than a political ponzy scheme and too many, including you, have fallen for it.

[aboutime]

I'm at a no win situation because no source will satisfy you. But I'm going to find some "real science" sites for you anyway

Humans Dwarf Volcanoes for CO2 Emissions
http://news.discovery.com/earth/weather-extreme-events/volcanoes-co2-people-emissions-climate-110627.htm

Volcanic Emissions & Global Cooling
http://plaza.ufl.edu/airwess/

Rising Waters: How Fast and How Far Will Sea Levels Rise?
http://e360.yale.edu/feature/rising_waters_how_fast_and_how_far_will_sea_levels _rise/2702/

Global Warming and Polar Bears
http://www.nwf.org/Wildlife/Threats-to-Wildlife/Global-Warming/Effects-on-Wildlife-and-Habitat/Polar-Bears.aspx

As Arctic Sea Ice Declines, Polar Bear Patrol Gets Busy
http://e360.yale.edu/feature/as_arctic_sea_ice_declines_polar_bear_patrol_gets_ busy/2497/



pete. It appears. The One, and Only member here that you need to convince is YOU.
None of us fell off the turnip truck this morning, and none of us were born yesterday.
You can present all the so-called scientific proof you want. And only that will convince YOU.
By the way. Which movie studio do you believe took part in staging the MOON landings in 1969?
I would love to hear your scientific, conspiracy theories about that too!
And if you ask "WHAT?" again. Everything you have presented to us here HAS NO OTHER BASIS of proof. Other than conspiracy, or hypothetical's as offered by those THOUSANDS, AND THOUSANDS of invisible scientists.

[Little-Acorn]

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/140105GWreligionRGB20140106103837.jpg