Can We Talk About Impeachment?

[Jeff]

Looks like maybe they do have something to go on here but I don't believe anything Obama can and will do will ever get him Impeached , the people that stand behind him have no Morals and don't see right from wrong or what there actions now are doing to this Countries future it is all about me, me ,me and now , now , now , and then of course you have the spineless Republicans, so Obama pretty much has a open check book to anything he wants.



The United States of America was once a land of laws and not of men. Obama and the Democratic Party have changed all that, possibly forever. Millions ofpeople (http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/biblical-politics/2013/nov/9/justifiable-improbable-impeachment-obama/), along with a few brave politicians (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/11/18/cruz_house_senate_should_render_judgement_on_impea chment_of_lawless_obama.html), are now openly speaking of impeachment. Why? Because the Obama administration's wanton and destructive disregard for the laws of the land have become so egregious that it can no longer be tolerated.


http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=4301673%3ATopic%3A2231340&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic

[jimnyc]

No matter the offense, you would need "votes" in order to impeach, none of which would be coming from his buddies in the senate. They care more about party than they do country.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Looks like maybe they do have something to go on here but I don't believe anything Obama can and will do will ever get him Impeached , the people that stand behind him have no Morals and don't see right from wrong or what there actions now are doing to this Countries future it is all about me, me ,me and now , now , now , and then of course you have the spineless Republicans, so Obama pretty much has a open check book to anything he wants.





http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=4301673%3ATopic%3A2231340&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic He was guilty of treason well before his second term began.... -Tyr

[aboutime]

There is only ONE, slight chance we might ever see Obama Impeached. And that all depends upon whether the Republicans gain the Majority again in the SENATE.

Otherwise. As long as Harry Reid, and the Dems have the power of the Senate...where JOE BIDEN would become the 51st vote as the President of the SENATE.

Obama will remain as the CHIEF DESTRUCTION CEO OF THE United States of Socialist Democrats.

[glockmail]

There is only ONE, slight chance we might ever see Obama Impeached. And that all depends upon whether the Republicans gain the Majority again in the SENATE.

Otherwise. As long as Harry Reid, and the Dems have the power of the Senate...where JOE BIDEN would become the 51st vote as the President of the SENATE.

Obama will remain as the CHIEF DESTRUCTION CEO OF THE United States of Socialist Democrats.

Sorry, but you are assuming that the elected Republicans have balls. They don't.

[aboutime]

Sorry, but you are assuming that the elected Republicans have balls. They don't.


Right you are Glock. But I learned long, long ago about using that word 'assume', and what it means.

Anyone who assumes anything these days is either a fool, or laying six feet below the turf.

[logroller]

FYI the House alone has the power to impeach, not the Senate.

[Gaffer]

FYI the House alone has the power to impeach, not the Senate.

But the senate hands down the sentence.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

But the senate hands down the sentence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Clau se_6:_Trial_of_Impeachments

Clause 5: Speaker and other officers; Impeachment[edit]


The House of Representatives shall chuse [sic] their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

Section Two further provides that the House of Representatives may choose its Speaker and its other officers. Though the Constitution does not mandate it, every Speaker has been a member of the House of Representatives.[38] The Speaker rarely presides over routine House sessions, choosing instead to deputize a junior member to accomplish the task.

Finally, Section Two grants to the House of Representatives the sole power of impeachment. Although the Supreme Court has not had an occasion to interpret this specific provision, the Court has suggested that the grant to the House of the "sole" power of impeachment makes the House the exclusive interpreter of what constitutes an impeachable offense.[39] Impeachments are tried in the Senate (as discussed below). House votes to impeach or not, the Senate tries the case and hands down its verdict. Tis' why impeachment by the House means next to nothing because Reid controls the Senate. Tis also why by hook and crook they made damn sure Reid was reelected last time. This corrupt treasonous Obama and crew leave no rock unturned! We as a nation are being had big time. A fact.--Tyr

[aboutime]

FYI the House alone has the power to impeach, not the Senate.


STICK WITH THAT log. Stick with that. Then tell us when the Republican Majority in the House impeaches Obama without the Senate.

But...stick with that idea as long as you like.

[revelarts]

No one in congress has the WILL to impeach any president it seems.
But I've made many of the exact same arguments for Bush's impeachment and think most of them can just be transferred to Obama in the 1st term.
However it seems to me that in each case the Party hacks and party faithful of the rank and file protect their boy, and the heads of the opposite party move decisively to "take impeachment of the table" for purely political reasons, while with the other side of their mouth's they complain that the prez is horrible in 32 flavors.

But the really sad thing is, if by some miricale Obama was impeached, Biden would be president.
what would change policy wise? basically nothing.

But I'm having a bit of Dejavu here
http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?34511-International-Permission%92-Trumps-Congressional-Permission-For-Military-Actions&p=532854#post532854

[Kathianne]

But the senate hands down the sentence.

Only after they find the charges to be worthy of removal from office. It's hasn't ever happened yet. For good reasons. One, the president was elected and installed constitutionally. Those in the opposition nearly always find serious flaws with a president from the other party.

It's a threat to the well being of the country to cry, 'impeach' for choices made by a president over policies a large segment disagrees with. Better to spend one's efforts in the next election, getting someone you agree with elected.

I've made my feelings and my knowledge of both history and constitution clear for many years. Obama actually may be approaching credible impeachment threats, if the executive orders don't get toned down. His latest on 'rolling back' the rules of Obamacare seem pretty odd, to say the least.

As pointed out above, whether or not charges are brought isn't a matter for us, but the House. I don't think there is a serious move towards impeachment, but if he keeps it up it's difficult to tell. Continually making end runs against Congress may well result in some serious backlash.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Only after they find the charges to be worthy of removal from office. It's hasn't ever happened yet. For good reasons. One, the president was elected and installed constitutionally. Those in the opposition nearly always find serious flaws with a president from the other party.

It's a threat to the well being of the country to cry, 'impeach' for choices made by a president over policies a large segment disagrees with. Better to spend one's efforts in the next election, getting someone you agree with elected.

I've made my feelings and my knowledge of both history and constitution clear for many years. Obama actually may be approaching credible impeachment threats, if the executive orders don't get toned down. His latest on 'rolling back' the rules of Obamacare seem pretty odd, to say the least.

As pointed out above, whether or not charges are brought isn't a matter for us, but the House. I don't think there is a serious move towards impeachment, but if he keeps it up it's difficult to tell. Continually making end runs against Congress may well result in some serious backlash.

It's hasn't ever happened yet.
Well, Obama should be the first since the totality of his actions clearly warrant it IMHO. Fast and Furious, Benghazi, ETC.

[logroller]

STICK WITH THAT log. Stick with that. Then tell us when the Republican Majority in the House impeaches Obama without the Senate.

But...stick with that idea as long as you like.
Indeed I shall-- it's not merely an idea btw, it's defined by the Constitution-- whether or not the House does so has nothing to do with consent of the Senate. Both Andrew Johnson and bill clinton were impeached without the Senate. But you go ahead and keep confusing impeachment with conviction.

[aboutime]

Indeed I shall-- it's not merely an idea btw, it's defined by the Constitution-- whether or not the House does so has nothing to do with consent of the Senate. Both Andrew Johnson and bill clinton were impeached without the Senate. But you go ahead and keep confusing impeachment with conviction.



Feel better log? Feel smarter now? Does anyone really care what you insist?

Stick by your words. Thanks for everything.

By the way. Just for the record. Impeachment in the way the rest of us are talking here...is NOT the same as what happened to Clinton. Otherwise....he would have been removed from office, and not just a reprimand, with the loss of his Law license.

[logroller]

Feel better log? Feel smarter now? Does anyone really care what you insist?

I'm sorry that you feel the need to get all pissy over being wrong but its really no fault of mine. You're free to believe that which is false and I'm free to point out your false assertions.



By the way. Just for the record. Impeachment in the way the rest of us are talking here...is NOT "...is NOT correct."

[aboutime]

I'm sorry that you feel the need to get all pissy over being wrong but its really no fault of mine. You're free to believe that which is false and I'm free to point out your false assertions.


"...is NOT correct."



Thanks again. Point out whatever you like. Obama does the same thing, and we all know where that got him.

[logroller]

Thanks again. Point out whatever you like. Obama does the same thing, and we all know where that got him.
Yea--The Oval Office, twice. Lame flame there AT.