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jimnyc
12-17-2013, 03:01 PM
I have mixed emotions with this one. I don't think they should be able to literally make them leave the entire town. Maybe they should be able to offer a ride to a shelter or food kitchen? At the same time, I don't think anyone should be able to pick any street corner and beg. I have sympathy for the homeless, but I don't want them sleeping on my street corner, or begging there, nor do I want to pass them several times per day and feel like I'm being put on the spot to help them out. They should seek out shelters that will have them, and I know local and state governments can help them find jobs. Of course they'll be crappy jobs at best, but that's better than begging.


KANSAS CITY, Missouri (Reuters) - A small Missouri town was sued on Monday by a homeless couple who are accusing it of violating their constitutional rights by forcing them to leave because they stood on a street corner holding a sign seeking assistance.

Brandalyn Orchard and Edward Gillespie, who were holding a sign that read "Traveling. Anything helps. God Bless," obeyed police who ordered them to leave Miner, Missouri, on September 26, according to the federal lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union on the couple's behalf.

Officers, who showed them copies of ordinances against vagrancy, begging and loitering, told the couple they would be arrested if they did not leave town in five minutes, the lawsuit said.

The city clerk in the town of 980 people in southeast Missouri said ordinances the officers cited do not exist, the lawsuit said.

"The police are our first line of defense and we entrust them with the ability to arrest, but in return we need some checks and balances," Jeffrey Mittman, executive director of the ACLU of Missouri, said in a news release.

"The ACLU is stepping in because it is especially egregious when police try to intimidate those who are least likely to have the resources to defend their rights."

Joe Fuchs, attorney for the city, declined to comment on the lawsuit on Monday. The two police officers allegedly involved in the incident were not identified in the lawsuit.

Orchard and Gillespie, from Missouri, are asking the court for unspecified damages and an injunction to prevent the city from attempting to enforce "policies and customs" that are unconstitutional.

It is unclear where the officers got the ordinances they showed the couple, Missouri ACLU attorney Anthony Rothert said.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in the 1970s that laws against vagrancy - or having no visible means of support - were unconstitutional, Rothert said.

http://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/homeless-couple-sues-missouri-town-for-asking-them-to-leave-161904894.html

revelarts
12-17-2013, 03:40 PM
it's illegal to be poor.
don't they know that?

man they are in a bad spot, it would have been nice if there was some decent folks that could have helped them out before they got confronted by the 'popo' and now it's all tried up in a mess. but the city had a lot of other options before it got to the point where there are having the sheriff tell them to
"git out of town, we don't want your kind here. Bothering the women in chillrin' and fine up standin' citizens here... so Git.'"

I guess a lawsuit is better than what these towns got for treatin a stranger poorly.


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tailfins
12-17-2013, 05:35 PM
Got in a little trouble at the county seat
Lord they put me in the jailhouse for loafing on the street
When the judge heard the verdict I was a guilty man
He said forty five dollars or thirty days in the can
That'll be cash on the barrelhead son you can make your choice you're twenty one
No money down no credit plan no time to chase you cause I'm a busy man



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