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revelarts
12-17-2013, 11:00 AM
Federal judge says NSA program appears to violate Constitution

DUH ya think?
THIS IS GREAT NEWS .... FINALLY a foot in the door to set this crap right.
but look at NBC giving the NSA the benny of the doubt. MSM faithful friends of big brother.
Did they give Snowden or Manning the benny of the doubt or wiki leaks? "Appears to be a traitors" lol

one of the expert commentators in the NBC report says something like . "while some might be surprised that a Bush appointed judge made this ruling, lately many republicans have joined democrats in their hate of the gov't"
the guy literately uses the words "HATE THE GOV'T" to describe people that point out the NSA spying is unconstitutional and should be stopped.
it's the state against the people folks. not left vs right.
If you go along with whatever the gov't says your a patriot if you disagree with the laws you HATE the gov't.
"see something say something" your neighbor even a Judge appointed by Bush might be a hater.
can hate speak laws be used to protect the gov't i wonder?


A federal judge ruled Monday that the National Security Agency’s gathering of data on all telephone calls made in the United States appears to violate the Constitution’s protection against unreasonable searches.

The judge, Richard Leon of U.S. District Court in Washington, said that the NSA relied on “almost-Orwellian technology” that would have been unimaginable a generation ago, at the time of a landmark Supreme Court decision on phone records.

Leon, an appointee of President George W. Bush, ruled in favor of two Americans who challenged the NSA program and wanted their data removed from NSA records. The judge found that the two were likely to prevail under the Fourth Amendment, the Constitution’s protection against unreasonable search and seizure....

He batted away the government’s argument that removing certain people from the NSA database would degrade the program.

“I am not convinced at this point in the litigation that the NSA’s database has ever truly served the purpose of rapidly identifying terrorists in time-sensitive investigations,” he wrote, “and so I am certainly not convinced that the removal of two individuals from the database will ‘degrade’ the program in any meaningful sense.

“I will leave it to other judges to decide how to handle any future litigation in their courts,” he added.
Leon wrote that the government was justifying its counterterrorism program based on a 34-year-old Supreme Court precedent that has been eclipsed by “technological advances and a cell phone-centric lifestyle heretofore inconceivable.”
That Supreme Court precedent held that Americans had no privacy interest to keep the government from accessing records stored by phone companies.
The White House reaffirmed its long-held position: no amnesty for accused NSA leaker Edward Snowden. NBC's Michael Isikoff discusses a federal judge's ruling Monday that the NSA's telephone data gathering program is unconstitutional.

“The relationship between the police and the phone company” a generation ago, the judge said, “is nothing compared to the relationship that has apparently evolved over the last seven years between the government and telecom companies.”
“It’s one thing to say that people expect phone companies to occasionally provide information to law enforcement; it is quite another to suggest that our citizens expect all phone companies to operate what is effectively a joint intelligence-gathering operation with the government,“ the judge wrote.

Leon also brushed aside arguments that the federal snooping has prevented imminent acts of terrorism.

“The Government does not cite a single instance in which analysis of the NSA’s bulk metadata collection actually stopped an imminent attack or otherwise aided the Government in achieving any objective that was time-sensitive in nature,” he wrote.

The plaintiffs brought their case June 6, one day after the British newspaper The Guardian published the first revelations from Edward Snowden, the former federal contractor who exposed details of massive government surveillance programs.
The reporter who introduced the world to Edward Snowden, Glenn Greenwald, discusses his opinion of today's major anti-NSA court ruling.

“Today, a secret program authorized by a secret court was, when exposed to the light of day, found to violate Americans’ rights," Snowden said in a statement. "It is the first of many.”

Snowden has been granted temporary asylum by Russia.
In an MSNBC interview, former Guardian reporter Glenn Greenwald, who broke the story about the NSA program, called the judge’s ruling an “important vindication” for Snowden.
President Barack Obama will address “national security and the economic impacts of unauthorized intelligence disclosures” in a meeting with executives from 15 leading tech companies on Tuesday, the White House said. The meeting will also cover technical issues with HealthCare.gov and ways the government can partner with the technology industry....


the NSA spying program is criminal.
the judge is a cautious hero
the plaintiffs are heroes
Snowden is a hero.

aboutime
12-18-2013, 06:40 PM
This will only stand as long as the Judge hasn't experienced any threats from someone, or an organization the NSA might need to listen to, or investigate.

Obama reminds us all...(laughingly) "I am in charge". If he is so easily able to break other laws, and avoid the Constitution...which he claims he taught about. Why does anyone think this Judge will make a difference????

This is 2013. Not the 70's, and Nixon isn't around.

revelarts
02-17-2014, 07:18 PM
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