16 million may lose their health insurance plans because of Obamacare

[red states rule]

So much for the promise made by Obama that if you like your current plan - you can keep that plan

How long before the people stand up and FORCE Congress to repeal this government over reach?





According to health policy expert Bob Laszewski, roughly 16 million Americans will lose their current plans (http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspot.com/2013/10/week-two-of-obamacare-federal-health.html#more) because of Obamacare:



The U.S. individual health insurance market currently totals about 19 million people. Because the Obama administration's regulations on grandfathering existing plans were so stringent about 85% of those, 16 million, are not grandfathered and must comply with Obamacare at their next renewal. The rules are very complex. For example, if you had an individual plan in March of 2010 when the law was passed and you only increased the deductible from $1,000 to $1,500 in the years since, your plan has lost its grandfather status and it will no longer be available to you when it would have renewed in 2014.

These 16 million people are now receiving letters from their carriers saying they are losing their current coverage and must re-enroll in order to avoid a break in coverage and comply with the new health law's benefit mandates--the vast majority by January 1. Most of these will be seeing some pretty big rate increases.



Kaiser Health News (http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2013/October/21/cancellation-notices-health-insurance.aspx) called up a few insurers around the country and found that hundreds of thousands of Americans have already received cancellation notices.



"[T]he cancellation notices, which began arriving in August, have shocked many consumers in light of President Barack Obama's promise that people could keep their plans if they liked them," according to Kaiser Health News reporters Anna Gorman and Julie Appleby.



"Florida Blue, for example, is terminating about 300,000 policies, about 80 percent of its individual policies in the state. Kaiser Permanente in California has sent notices to 160,000 people - about half of its individual business in the state. Insurer Highmark in Pittsburgh is dropping about 20 percent of its individual market customers, while Independence Blue Cross, the major insurer in Philadelphia, is dropping about 45 percent," Kaiser reports. "Blue Shield of California sent roughly 119,000 cancellation notices out in mid-September, about 60 percent of its individual business. About two-thirds of those policyholders will see rate increases in their new policies, said spokesman Steve Shivinsky."


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/10/16_million_may_lose_their_health_insurance_plans_b ecause_of_obamacare.html#ixzz2ifhspvI8

[aboutime]

So much for the promise made by Obama that if you like your current plan - you can keep that plan

How long before the people stand up and FORCE Congress to repeal this government over reach?


red states rule. I do believe. We can feel fairly confident. The American people in general. Especially those who Love Obama, and who voted for him TWICE...are not intelligent, smart, or wise enough to FORCE Congress to do such a thing. Because...they think, and have been constantly convinced, by their MESSIAH...that Health Care for them will always be FREE.

[red states rule]

red states rule. I do believe. We can feel fairly confident. The American people in general. Especially those who Love Obama, and who voted for him TWICE...are not intelligent, smart, or wise enough to FORCE Congress to do such a thing. Because...they think, and have been constantly convinced, by their MESSIAH...that Health Care for them will always be FREE.

and our resident Obama lap dogs (and one in particular who could not wait for those exchanges to open) are ignoring this thread. Well, at least they are consistent AT. they have ignored damn near every Obamacare thread out of sheer embarrassment

Of cousre threads like these are dismissed by Gabby as "Obama hate threads"

[aboutime]

and our resident Obama lap dogs (and one in particular who could not wait for those exchanges to open) are ignoring this thread. Well, at least they are consistent AT. they have ignored damn near every Obamacare thread out of sheer embarrassment

Of cousre threads like these are dismissed by Gabby as "Obama hate threads"


Exactly, red states rule. And that's what makes it all the more laughable, if not pointing toward pure Hypocrisy. But then. That's all they have. So, they defend it, and have no idea why?

[red states rule]

Exactly, red states rule. And that's what makes it all the more laughable, if not pointing toward pure Hypocrisy. But then. That's all they have. So, they defend it, and have no idea why?

It is amazing AT

The Obama lap dogs leap to the defense of Obama when it comes to gas prices doubling

Or bellow how great those exchanges will be

Or attack anyone who goes after radical Islam

But they hide in the shadows and ignore all the evidence of the massive and expensive failure Obamacare is turning out to be

I have always said - and these Obama lap dogs prove me correct - that without their double standards libs would have no standards at all

[red states rule]

As usual here is a perfect example of that liberal compassion we have heard so much about. Juan Williams simply dismisses the hundreds of thousands of people losing their coverage and has the stupidity to bellow these folks will pay LESS for MORE coverage.

Typical Obama lap dog




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_-7B6kenn4

[aboutime]

As usual here is a perfect example of that liberal compassion we have heard so much about. Juan Williams simply dismisses the hundreds of thousands of people losing their coverage and has the stupidity to bellow these folks will pay LESS for MORE coverage.

Typical Obama lap dog




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_-7B6kenn4


This Williams guy sounds like he could work for Obama, or the DNC as the representative for the ACA...Obamacare setup, and fiasco control based on brainwashing that convinces everyone like him to believe lies. Even if they know they are Lies.
He must have been a former teacher, or professor at the OBAMA ECONOMICS SCHOOL FOR ACORN WORKERS, AND BLACK PANTHER BROTHERHOOD.

[tailfins]

So much for the promise made by Obama that if you like your current plan - you can keep that plan

How long before the people stand up and FORCE Congress to repeal this government over reach?

Everybody knows the problems with the Affordable Care Act are lingering problems caused by the Republican orchestrated government shutdown.

[red states rule]

Everybody knows the problems with the Affordable Care Act are lingering problems caused by the Republican orchestrated government shutdown.

and libs also blame R's for the sinking of the Titantic, the Chicago fire, floods, earthquakes, and blizzards

After all Obama himself said the night he was first elected the sea levels would recede - since they have not I guess R's are too blame for that as well

[aboutime]

Everybody knows the problems with the Affordable Care Act are lingering problems caused by the Republican orchestrated government shutdown.


tailfins. Please, please, please....keep convincing yourself of everything you said above. Please?

[aboutime]

Okay. A light look at reality, and oddly, very scary too!


http://youtu.be/e3-RKS0_NKk

[red states rule]

More Dems have fessed up and admitted they were lying to us when it came to Obamacare





Steny Hoyer admits: We knew that not everyone would be able to keep their planThis is the same guy (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/362484/top-dem-admits-we-knew-jonathan-strong), remember, who wants to throw more money at the ObamaCare website even though he says he’s not sure that would actually help (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/22/it-begins-dems-number-two-in-the-house-calls-for-more-money-for-obamacare-website/).

I wonder what his “solution” to the insurance industry’s developing adverse-selection problem will be.

“We knew that there would be some policies that would not qualify and therefore people would be required to get more extensive coverage,” Hoyer said in response to a question from National Review.

Asked by another reporter how repeated statements by Obama to the contrary weren’t “misleading,” Hoyer said “I don’t think the message was wrong. I think the message was accurate. It was not precise enough…[it] should have been caveated with – ‘assuming you have a policy that in fact does do what the bill is designed to do.’”

Hoyer noted that people losing access to their current plans are mostly in the individual market, which is a small segment of the overall market.
No, it’s not that Obama wasn’t “precise enough.” Go watch this clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8spP856AMY&feature=youtu.be), which I linked yesterday. He lied outright, unequivocally, for years — including during the first debate with Romney (https://twitter.com/wconnorwalsh/status/394962614314209280) last October. Hoyer himself repeated the same lie, without qualification, back in 2009 (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/top-house-democrat-says-promise-americans-could-keep-their-health-plans-should-have-been-caveated_765541.html). Here’s the question, though: Did Hoyer know just how many policies wouldn’t qualify under ObamaCare? The takeaway from yesterday’s NBC scoop (http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/28/21213547-obama-admin-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance?lite) isn’t that they knew all along that “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan” was a scam. That was baked in the cake from the beginning; some people would have to lose their plans so that they could be forced onto the exchanges, where they’d pay more for coverage in the name of subsidizing the sick and poor. The takeaway is that HHS wrote the regulations to make that problem worse than it otherwise might have been, by stipulating that any material change made by an insurance company to one of its plans rendered that plan non-grandfathered under the law and therefore illegal. They maximized the hit on the middle class. Did Hoyer know they were going to do that? Does he care that they did? He’d better figure it out, because the more of an uproar there is over people getting dropped, the more Ron Johnson’s new bill will start to look good to red-state Democrats in the Senate. Passing it might make the adverse-selection problem worse (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/25/gop-sen-ron-johnson-to-introduce-the-if-you-like-your-health-plan-you-can-keep-it-act/), not better, but desperate incumbents like Pryor and Begich might not care. At the very least, the pressure on them to relax some of HHS’s regs disqualifying formerly grandfathered plans will only grow more intense.

Now that the country knows “if you like your plan” is a bald-faced lie repeated ad nauseam by Democrats for years, it’s time to shift the goalposts. Shift one: Yes, it’s true that some people will lose their plan and pay more next year, but they’re getting more comprehensive coverage in return and that kinda sorta justifies taking away their choice (http://nation.time.com/2013/10/28/the-bright-side-of-obamacares-broken-promise/). By the same logic, I guess, it’d be okay to force people to sell their cars and buy new ones with better safety features because, after all, they’re getting a benefit from the extra expense, even if they can’t comfortably afford it. The difference between ObamaCare and the car example, though, is that the car-buyer really would be the intended beneficiary of that program. Not so with O-Care. The point of forcing healthy middle-class people into more expensive plans isn’t that they’ll avail themselves of the extra coverage but that they likely won’t, which leaves lots of extra cash for the insurance company to apply towards covering the preexisting conditions of others. Since it’s done in the name of virtue (http://www.mediaite.com/online/pro-obamacare-technocrats-present-worst-argument-ever-you-don%E2%80%99t-know-what%E2%80%99s-good-for-you/), though, it’s supposedly okay. At the very least, I’d like to think that the car hypothetical would be sold to the public honestly, not with some “if you like your sh*tbox, you can keep it” lie.

Shift two: Some lefties want to treat “if you like your plan” as water under the bridge, a talking point that might not have been technically true in all cases but which there’s no sense dwelling on now. We’re all in the quicksand together at this point; we can stand here and point fingers about who lied or we can try to pull ourselves out.

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/29/steny-hoyer-admits-we-knew-that-not-everyone-would-be-able-to-keep-their-plan/