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jafar00
10-17-2013, 06:15 AM
Hundreds of homes may have been lost in Thursday's fires, the worst in more than 10 years, said the Premier Barry O'Farrell.
"It's suspected that by the time we've finished counting it [the loss of homes] will at least be in the hundreds," he said.
It would take days to fully assess the loss, but the Premier was grateful that no lives had been lost.
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"I suspect if we get through that without the loss of life, we should all thank God for miracles."


Deputy RFS Commissioner Rob Rogers said the fire situation was the worst he'd seen in more than a decade and the threat was unlikely to ease for some time.
"It was a very warm winter, a very dry winter ... we're not even one month into spring and we've already got this," he told Channel Seven.
The forecast south-westerly change could even make the situation worse.


"The worst combination is north-westerly to south-westerly and we've got that now. We've got an incredibly long fire front and there is no sign of any rain coming."
While there would be easing conditions on Friday, the sheer size of the raging fires meant they didn't "need the weather conditions" to continue.
"They are so big they create their own climatic conditions," he said.


Around 100 fires broke out across the state, ranging from Lismore and Tenterfield in NSW's north, to Gloucester and Taree and the Great Lakes on the coast, the Blue Mountains, south to Camden, Wingecarribee near Moss Vale and the Shoalhaven. The fires destroyed homes, pastures and set a petrol station on fire near Wyong. Roads were closed across the state, with back ups of up to 20km on the Hume Highway.
The worst loss of homes was at Springwood in the Blue Mountains, where at least 30 homes were lost.


Ferocious winds fanned the blaze that destroyed the dream home where Joe Moore, Springwood Country Club's golf professional, had lived with his wife and seven children, including four foster children.
"This reminds me of what happened in Melbourne a couple of years ago," Mr Moore said. "Whichever way you look, it was the impossible fire to fight."


There were unconfirmed reports of properties being lost at North Doyalson, on the Central Coast; at Lithgow; at Yanderra and Balmoral, in the Southern Highlands; and in Port Stephens. Newcastle airport was closed and evacuated except for a skeleton staff because of a bushfire at Heatherbrae, 16km away.


Late on Thursday, the NSW Emergency Services Minister Mike Gallacher said the bushfire situation across the state was "very tough going indeed".
"You only need to look out into the sky and see the bloom and ash that is hanging over Sydney," he told ABC. "That's coming from the fires burning in the Blue Mountains."
During the day, more than 8500 homes in the west, south-west and north of Sydney lost power, as wind gusts of up to 70km/h brought branches down on powerlines.
In the Blue Mountains, power was cut to about 4500 homes and businesses in Katoomba, Winmalee and parts of Leura, Blackheath and Mount Victoria.
In the Macarthur region, the worst-affected areas were Wilton, Menangle and parts of Campbelltown.


While the next 24 hours should bring a cool change, it wasn't expected to contain much rain.


In Lithgow, attempts by firefighters to waterbomb a fire were hindered by 90km/h winds, RFS spokesman Joel Kursawe said.
Those winds are capable of carrying embers up to six kilometres.


"The problem is when you've got aircraft over fires like that with [those] winds, a lot of the time they're just getting knocked around in the sky," Mr Kursawe told journalists at RFS headquarters in Sydney.
By late Thursday afternoon, the fires surrounding Sydney had turned the sun into bright red, threatening ball.


"It's an apocalypse out there," said one of the many inner-city workers and residents who were taking of the hulking grey cloud hanging over Sydney.


The clouds were reported to be sending ash down into Sydney's inner city, including as far east as Coogee, prompting NSW Health to issue a bushfire air pollution health warning. It said air quality in many areas was likely to be reduced due to smoke particles.
“Already, smoke from bushfires burning in the Blue Mountains region and Muswellbrook areas has been blown east to Sydney city and coastal suburbs,” said Professor Wayne Smith, the director of the environmental health branch.
“Particle levels are likely to be higher outdoors than indoors, so people sensitive to fine particles should limit the time they spend outside."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/bushfires-in-nsw-worst-in-more-than-a-decade-20131017-2voyu.html#ixzz2hyX3hTnY

We have had some terrible fires here already and it's still spring. Today was the worst yet. From the morning, the clear skies were turned orange with smoke looking more like a good day in Beijing than Sydney's usual clear skies. Later in the afternoon, high winds lifted the smoke plume over the city making it look like an end of the world situation. I took some pics on the way home to share.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iyqkau_Zy4
This video was automatically put together on my HTC One :)

Gaffer
10-17-2013, 06:29 AM
That's some serious fire there. Do they have fire fighting air craft available? Sounds a lot like some of out western states fires. Is it predominately grass and scrub or is it forest that's burning?

hjmick
10-17-2013, 06:45 AM
Looks like an average California fire season...

aboutime
10-19-2013, 01:38 PM
jafar. No intention of placing a damper on your story. But, here in the U.S.A. We go through that kind of terror from fires every year. It's a seasonal happening for us.

Hope everything settles down, and they get a handle on controlling those fires. But. That's how life is in the rest of the World for us.

jafar00
10-20-2013, 01:30 AM
jafar. No intention of placing a damper on your story. But, here in the U.S.A. We go through that kind of terror from fires every year. It's a seasonal happening for us.

Hope everything settles down, and they get a handle on controlling those fires. But. That's how life is in the rest of the World for us.

We usually have some bad fires in Summer too but, it is still Spring. High winds plus temperatures 12-15C above average are giving us an early dose of what is to come. Hundreds of homes have been lost so far on the outskirts of the city. I was down at the beach today and the smoke plume is back. Filtering the sun to an orange glow.

Missileman
10-20-2013, 11:49 AM
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/bushfires-in-nsw-worst-in-more-than-a-decade-20131017-2voyu.html#ixzz2hyX3hTnY

We have had some terrible fires here already and it's still spring. Today was the worst yet. From the morning, the clear skies were turned orange with smoke looking more like a good day in Beijing than Sydney's usual clear skies. Later in the afternoon, high winds lifted the smoke plume over the city making it look like an end of the world situation. I took some pics on the way home to share.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iyqkau_Zy4
This video was automatically put together on my HTC One :)
They're called brushfires...with an R. Bushfires are what Obama claims he's been trying to put out for over 5 years now.

fj1200
10-20-2013, 01:45 PM
They're called brushfires...with an R. Bushfires are what Obama claims he's been trying to put out for over 5 years now.

They do appear to be called bushfires (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushfires_in_Australia) down under. I guess that means they've been blaming Bush long before it became fashionable up here.

Missileman
10-20-2013, 03:59 PM
They do appear to be called bushfires (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushfires_in_Australia) down under. I guess that means they've been blaming Bush long before it became fashionable up here.
Not my fault Aussies don't speak proper English...:poke: I refuse to let that ruin a perfectly fine joke.

tailfins
10-20-2013, 06:35 PM
Not my fault Aussies don't speak proper English...:poke: I refuse to let that ruin a perfectly fine joke.

I read the title wondering if a post about BUSH ON FIRE was Not Safe for Work.

jafar00
10-21-2013, 12:19 AM
They've declared a state of emergency and there are fears 3 big fires could merge into one mega blaze.

The smoke haze is back today. This scene below is normally a picturesque valley scene but today it is all obscured. This is about 75km (46.6mi) from the nearest fire.

http://img10.imagefra.me/i5al/jafar00/mnpc_568_u9brf.jpg

aboutime
10-21-2013, 08:33 AM
FIRE in Australia started intentionally by American Pretend President who always has to blame someone.....

56915692....choose One Democrat Idea.

By the way jafar. There is NOTHING anyone can do about those fires there, or here.
They happen every year around the world.

fj1200
10-21-2013, 08:45 AM
They've declared a state of emergency and there are fears 3 big fires could merge into one mega blaze.

Are Aussie bushfires also made worse, in part at least, by the intervention of governmental controlling authorities?


There are a couple of big reasons (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/06/30/western-wildfires-are-getting-worse-why-is-that/) why wildfires, particularly out West, have been getting bigger and more destructive over time. Climate change has heated up and dried out the region (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/07/060710084004.htm), making forests more flammable. Certain forest management and fire-suppression techniques over the past century have also made forests more susceptible to truly gigantic blazes.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/23/wildfires-keep-getting-worse-why-is-congress-so-unprepared-for-this/

jafar00
10-21-2013, 02:58 PM
FIRE in Australia started intentionally by American Pretend President who always has to blame someone.....

56915692....choose One Democrat Idea.

By the way jafar. There is NOTHING anyone can do about those fires there, or here.
They happen every year around the world.

True, fires happen every year, but we don't usually have a state of emergency declared or have to forcefully evacuate entire towns of 76,000 people because of them.


Are Aussie bushfires also made worse, in part at least, by the intervention of governmental controlling authorities?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/23/wildfires-keep-getting-worse-why-is-congress-so-unprepared-for-this/

Climate change doesn't help. Every weather report we've had for the past 4 or 5 months has contained the phrases, "Hottest on Record" and/or "Above average". Lack of rain has made the bush tinder dry too.

With hotter temps and huge fires we have to keep reminding ourselves that it is not Summer yet.

aboutime
10-21-2013, 03:12 PM
Why do any of us need to always end up BRAGGING about things like: "Our Bushfires are bigger, and more dangerous that YOUR bushfires?"

Since when does anyone have any reason to always claim the high ground with such things like massive fires, or even Mass Shootings?

What kind of sickness do we breed within our own societies when we look for ONE-UPSMANSHIP on such terrible events?

All of it sounds like children on a playground, comparing their scratches, and bruises, or the bandages covering their wounds.

Nobody here can do anything about the size, or magnitude of such Natural events in Nature.
If you need attention, or bragging rights for such things.
Write yourself a note, and tell someone who needs to be impressed.