View Full Version : 2 arrests made in death of bullied Florida girl
Larrymc
10-15-2013, 06:10 PM
This is so sad, the little twits involved should have consequences, But i can't help but think why are these kids on bothsides given their own PCs and used unsupervised, children or targets in many ways, and apparently bully's are emboldened hiding behind a screen, I understand the desire to give your kids the latest PCs and Phones but if your not, or can't monitor them, its safer to just don't buy them IMO
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57607530/rebecca-ann-sedwick-suicide-2-arrests-made-in-death-of-bullied-florida-girl/
I know they are just kids, but I have zero tolerance for such behavior and I think history has shown it only get's worse... I'd like to see them locked away forever. It's never going to happen, I am one of the few (it seems) that realizes a lot of humanity is bad for humanity and thus believe in very harsh justice.
Of course the one parent defended their kid, and of course he had no idea what was going on, as most parents don't have a clue even though most think they do.
Kathianne
10-15-2013, 06:59 PM
Many times what is reported as 'bullying' is not the threat that this was. There is too much made of bullying, where nearly any perceived slight is judged to be a zero tolerance event. Some kids behaviors invite peer corrections, that certainly may be inappropriately articulated, but are spot on. There are reasons for counselors or teachers to help the child with a problem, as well as address the others behavior in how to communicate. Often these kids could end up friends with some understanding.
After reading several accounts, these two girls are a danger in any school situation. They were actively trying to harm this girl, mentally and physically. As the victim's parent, I would have gotten rid of her phone, but someone would have told her.
I hope they are incarcerated for the max time.
aboutime
10-15-2013, 07:15 PM
This is so sad, the little twits involved should have consequences, But i can't help but think why are these kids on bothsides given their own PCs and used unsupervised, children or targets in many ways, and apparently bully's are emboldened hiding behind a screen, I understand the desire to give your kids the latest PCs and Phones but if your not, or can't monitor them, its safer to just don't buy them IMO
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57607530/rebecca-ann-sedwick-suicide-2-arrests-made-in-death-of-bullied-florida-girl/
Larrymc. Also, and equally as sad. Is the deterioration of our society where such actions seem nearly condoned...as more or less...a baby-sitting acceptance of technology where...everyone these days has some kind of replacement in hand, or on a desk or table....that takes on a virtual life of it's own. Giving our children, and even adults...the lazy tools that prevent face-to-face interaction. And the consequences are much like this FORUM.
Where all of us remain anonymous, and therefore...can remain unaccountable, and irresponsible to anyone with a REAL Name, Face, or Heartbeat that would change our actions IN PERSON.
This is the society we have chosen, and it is the society that Kills, as well as Destroys people with the press of a SEND key.
Larrymc
10-15-2013, 07:47 PM
Larrymc. Also, and equally as sad. Is the deterioration of our society where such actions seem nearly condoned...as more or less...a baby-sitting acceptance of technology where...everyone these days has some kind of replacement in hand, or on a desk or table....that takes on a virtual life of it's own. Giving our children, and even adults...the lazy tools that prevent face-to-face interaction. And the consequences are much like this FORUM.
Where all of us remain anonymous, and therefore...can remain unaccountable, and irresponsible to anyone with a REAL Name, Face, or Heartbeat that would change our actions IN PERSON.
This is the society we have chosen, and it is the society that Kills, as well as Destroys people with the press of a SEND key.This an example of our freedoms working against us, awhile back there was a problem with Libraries blocking porn on their computers, it seems porn is a freedom of speech, and even though it destroys lives and family's we can't even limit it, many would never especially kids, would ever bother with it if you had to pay, or join some club, or subscribe in some way to it, I can see as an American maybe it should be a chose that you can make, but such should at least take a little extra effort, to protect our self's and our kids IMO
Kathianne
10-15-2013, 08:24 PM
My library has won multiple national awards. Here is the skinny: (http://www.wheatonlibrary.org/POL_filteringpolicy.html)
Filtering Policy The Wheaton Public Library filters all of the library Internet stations, including Internet access from a personal laptop using the wireless connections throughout the building.
The filtering blocks:
Pornography: Sites that contain material intended to be sexually arousing or erotic.
Child Pornography: Sites that promote, discuss and portray children in sexual acts and activity.
Obscene/Tasteless: Sites that involve such things as mutilation, murder, bodily functions, horror, death, executions, violence.
Anyone age 17 or older who needs to view a blocked site for research purposes should ask a librarian at the Computer Desk to remove the filtering software.
Users should be aware that filters are not 100% effective. The library has no control over the content of the Internet and is not responsible for what users view on the Internet. Parents or legal guardians must accept full responsibility for teaching their child appropriate Internet behavior and for supervising the child’s use of the Internet so that inappropriate matter is not accessed.
Adopted 2/14/07
Wheaton as I've posted before is a very religious (http://www.villageprofile.com/illinois/wheaton_old-08/13/topic.html) and in some ways a very socially liberal city regarding those 'in need,' which doesn't extend to pornography or enabling of other vices including abortion. Food, rent, clothing? You bet, vices? Nope.
...The Genius Edition of Trivial Pursuit states that Wheaton has “more churches per capita than any other town in America.” It is also rumored to have more churches per square mile than any other U.S. city, and is surpassed worldwide by only a few places in Italy...
My guess is our library understood this:
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/libraries-342133-children-public.html
Published: Feb. 27, 2012 Updated: Aug. 21, 2013 1:17 p.m.
<!--starting of articleLeadContainer div--> <!--googleon: all--> Ernest Istook: Libraries need not expose kids to pornBy ERNEST ISTOOK / The Heritage Foundation
<!--googleoff: all--> <!--googleon: all-->Librarians can be strict. In Seattle, for example, you can't eat, sleep, go barefoot or be noisy in a public library. You can, however, "watch graphic porn on a public computer in front of kids," the Seattle Post-Intelligencer recently reported.
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<!--googleon: all--> You don't need to be a literary expert to figure out that making computer porn available is not the highest and best use of limited public resources. And certainly patrons, whose tax payments keep the doors open, deserve better than to have their children exposed to hard-core pornography.
As a former chairman of a metropolitan library system, the story from Seattle appalled me. But it didn't surprise me at all.
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<!--googleon: all--> Sadly, Seattle is following a strategy promoted by the American Library Association, which regards pornography as just a routine aspect of protecting the First Amendment. But they generally omit an important qualifier: When taxpayers are paying for the computers they have a right to insist that children are protected.
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<!--googleon: all--> I know because I authored the federal law on this, and it has passed muster with the Supreme Court. In 2003, the high court upheld The Children's Internet Protection Act (CIPA) in United States v. American Library Association. Earlier federal attempts to address the problem had all been rejected by the court.
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<!--googleon: all--> The 6-3 ruling affirmed the constitutionality of CIPA, which requires public schools and libraries that receive Internet-related federal funds to use blocking filters to restrict access to pornography.
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<!--googleon: all--> The Supreme Court agreed that the Internet is "no more than a technological extension of the book stack." The justices wrote that each public library has "its traditional role in identifying suitable and worthwhile material; it is no less entitled to play that role when it collects material from the Internet. ... Most libraries already exclude pornography from their print collections because they deem it inappropriate for inclusion. ... It would make little sense to treat libraries' judgments to block online pornography any differently."
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<!--googleon: all--> Because "libraries cannot possibly segregate, item by item, all the Internet material that is appropriate for inclusion from all that is not," the Supreme Court agreed that using filters to exclude categories of websites is appropriate and constitutional.
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Larrymc
10-15-2013, 08:33 PM
My library has won multiple national awards. Here is the skinny: (http://www.wheatonlibrary.org/POL_filteringpolicy.html)
Wheaton as I've posted before is a very religious (http://www.villageprofile.com/illinois/wheaton_old-08/13/topic.html) and in some ways a very socially liberal city regarding those 'in need,' which doesn't extend to pornography or enabling of other vices including abortion. Food, rent, clothing? You bet, vices? Nope.
My guess is our library understood this:
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/libraries-342133-children-public.htmlGood info i hadn't heard anything more on it, glad to see their is legal oppositions to protect kids,
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