DragonStryk72
10-12-2013, 03:07 PM
Washington (CNN) -- [Breaking news update, 3:05 p.m.]
(CNN) -- The Democratic leadership of the U.S. Senate will meet with President Barack Obama at about 3:15 p.m. ET Saturday, White House officials said.
Original story, published 1:23 p.m.
Talks between House Speaker John Boehner and President Barack Obama over the government shutdown and looming debt limit deadline have hit a brick wall. Attention now turns to the Senate, where members are working on a separate plan to reopen the government.
The standstill between Boehner and Obama has put on hold any the possibility that the House would vote on its proposal to reopen the government this weekend. While leadership would remain in Washington to continue work, rank-and-file members have begun returning home to their districts until Monday afternoon.
In the Senate's court
The Senate is now front and center. The upper chamber defeated a procedural measure Saturday afternoon to extend the debt limit with no strings attached. While a vote had little chance of passing, the real work is being done behind the scenes.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/12/politics/shutdown-showdown/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Okay, now I've continued to put forth that both parties are responsible for the shutdown, but that has now changed. I was reading this article on CNN.com, when I read this particular part:
Reid also noted that a proposal by a bipartisan group of senators is no longer on the table.
The proposal, led by Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine and Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, would fund the government for six months, extend the debt limit and delay a medical device tax that is part of the Affordable Care Act.
But Democrats rejected that plan because it treats opening the government as a "concession."
My immediate, visceral reaction was: "Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?!"
Really? they hand you pretty much everything you could have wanted, minus one little thing that they could have walked away with as a victory point, a simple delay of one piece of ACA, and you reject it out of hand?! NO, that's it, it is no longer the fault of Republicans that the government is shutdown. When you throw out a deal that hands you pretty much everything you wanted, and you still throw it back in their faces, it's YOUR fault.
The Democrats want nothing shy of complete and unconditional surrender of the Republicans, screaming to the heavens about reason, while calling the Republicans terrorists and hostage-takers, rejecting every deal that comes down the pike.
It wasn't even a huge tax that they delayed. Delayed, not got rid of, just delayed like most of the rest of the ACA already has been. Oh no, it would've come online with the rest of Obamacare.
(CNN) -- The Democratic leadership of the U.S. Senate will meet with President Barack Obama at about 3:15 p.m. ET Saturday, White House officials said.
Original story, published 1:23 p.m.
Talks between House Speaker John Boehner and President Barack Obama over the government shutdown and looming debt limit deadline have hit a brick wall. Attention now turns to the Senate, where members are working on a separate plan to reopen the government.
The standstill between Boehner and Obama has put on hold any the possibility that the House would vote on its proposal to reopen the government this weekend. While leadership would remain in Washington to continue work, rank-and-file members have begun returning home to their districts until Monday afternoon.
In the Senate's court
The Senate is now front and center. The upper chamber defeated a procedural measure Saturday afternoon to extend the debt limit with no strings attached. While a vote had little chance of passing, the real work is being done behind the scenes.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/12/politics/shutdown-showdown/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Okay, now I've continued to put forth that both parties are responsible for the shutdown, but that has now changed. I was reading this article on CNN.com, when I read this particular part:
Reid also noted that a proposal by a bipartisan group of senators is no longer on the table.
The proposal, led by Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine and Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, would fund the government for six months, extend the debt limit and delay a medical device tax that is part of the Affordable Care Act.
But Democrats rejected that plan because it treats opening the government as a "concession."
My immediate, visceral reaction was: "Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?!"
Really? they hand you pretty much everything you could have wanted, minus one little thing that they could have walked away with as a victory point, a simple delay of one piece of ACA, and you reject it out of hand?! NO, that's it, it is no longer the fault of Republicans that the government is shutdown. When you throw out a deal that hands you pretty much everything you wanted, and you still throw it back in their faces, it's YOUR fault.
The Democrats want nothing shy of complete and unconditional surrender of the Republicans, screaming to the heavens about reason, while calling the Republicans terrorists and hostage-takers, rejecting every deal that comes down the pike.
It wasn't even a huge tax that they delayed. Delayed, not got rid of, just delayed like most of the rest of the ACA already has been. Oh no, it would've come online with the rest of Obamacare.