Global warming cleverly hides itself with 1 million sq miles more arctic ice

[red states rule]

More bad news for the enviro wackos and libs who support a carbon tax to "save mother earth"





The science is <S>settled</S> unsettling. Comedian Lewis Black said it best on his White Album when he asked, “Do you know what Meteorologist means in English? It means liar.” It seems that we now have more science to settle atop the mountains of previous science which all purports to prove one thing or another. You can decide on the reasons for yourself, but the arctic ice sheet is back with a vengeance (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/Global-cooling-Arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html).

A chilly Arctic summer has left nearly a million more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time last year – an increase of 60 per cent.
The rebound from 2012’s record low comes six years after the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013.

Instead, days before the annual autumn re-freeze is due to begin, an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia’s northern shores.

Good news for polar bears, if nothing else. But talks of a clear Northwest Passage seem to have fallen by the wayside. In fact, a few people who were counting on it rather heavily are left sort of… stuck.

Only six years ago, the BBC reported that the Arctic would be ice-free in summer by 2013, citing a scientist in the US who claimed this was a ‘conservative’ forecast. Perhaps it was their confidence that led more than 20 yachts to try to sail the Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to the Pacific this summer. As of last week, all these vessels were stuck in the ice, some at the eastern end of the passage in Prince Regent Inlet, others further west at Cape Bathurst.

Shipping experts said the only way these vessels were likely to be freed was by the icebreakers of the Canadian coastguard. According to the official Canadian government website, the Northwest Passage has remained ice-bound and impassable all summer.

Some of the analysts currently scratching their heads over how the planet stubbornly refuses to do what they insist it must are apparently now reflecting on some much older data. Reports are available which indicate a massive melting of the arctic ice sheet in the 1920′s and 30′s, long before the era of global climate studies. But then, it crashed into another period of increased freezing and expansion. The current photo has a few of them wondering if we might be in danger of heading into another ice age, which would be disastrous for mankind.

http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/ArcticIce2.jpg
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This just in (http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2013/09/jewish-mother-sweater-alert-artic-ice.html) from Jeff Dunetz.


Today’s UK Daily Mail gives more evidence that would have made my mother, of blessed memory issue a major Jewish Mother Sweater Alert because the Arctic Ice cap grew by 60% this past year and more scientists are warning of the coming ice age.



http://hotair.com/archives/2013/09/08/global-warming-cleverly-hides-itself-with-1-million-sq-miles-more-arctic-ice/

[revelarts]

>sarcasm alert<

It's called "climate change" red.
And the fact that the ice capes are bigger PROVES climate change.
If ice capes were smaller that would PROVE global warm.. i mean.. climate change too. ya see?

But your NOT a scientist and haven't studied it properly so you can't understand it correctly that's all Red. You should always just believe the RIGHT scientist. the REAL scientist, they voted and so that makes it true. Are you going to believe them or your lying eyes.
But no, Your like a holocaust denier , full of hate and can't think. You should not bred and should give up your car if you really cared about science... and fox news stinks!

[red states rule]

Thanks to Al Gore's amazing internet (he said he invented it) one is able to go back and research what the liberal media has "reported" over the years

http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/files/2013/06/Facebook_meme_Global_Cooling_11.gif



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http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/2001/1101010409_400.jpg

[NightTrain]

I was reading about this up in Fairbanks last week, and had a good chuckle over it.


I think the wisest course for humanity now is to follow my lead and buy a Suburban and let that baby idle when you're not zooming down the highway in it.

We need more greenhouse gases, STAT!

Then in 30 years when the ice recedes a bit, we can park those 'Burbs and dust off the old Prius to save us from Global Warming.

[red states rule]

For our resident enviro wackos:





Arctic expert predicts final collapse of sea ice within four yearsAs sea ice shrinks to record lows, Prof Peter Wadhams warns a 'global disaster' is now unfolding in northern latitudes


One of the world's leading ice experts has predicted the final collapse of Arctic (http://www.theguardian.com/world/arctic) sea ice (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/sea-ice) in summer months within four years.

In what he calls a "global disaster" now unfolding in northern latitudes as the sea area that freezes and melts each year shrinks to its lowest extent (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/sep/14/arctic-sea-ice-smallest-extent?intcmp=239) ever recorded, Prof Peter Wadhams of Cambridge University (http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/pw11/) calls for "urgent" consideration of new ideas to reduce global temperatures.

In an email to the Guardian he says: "Climate change (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-change) is no longer something we can aim to do something about in a few decades' time, and that we must not only urgently reduce CO2 emissions but must urgently examine other ways of slowing global warming, such as the various geoengineering ideas (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/dec/01/geoengineering-techniques-study-science-coalition) that have been put forward."

These include reflecting the sun's rays back into space, making clouds whiter and seeding the ocean with minerals to absorb more CO2.

Wadhams has spent many years collecting ice thickness data from submarines passing below the arctic ocean. He predicted the imminent break-up of sea ice in summer months in 2007, when the previous lowest extent of 4.17 million square kilometres was set. This year, it has unexpectedly plunged a further 500,000 sq km to less than 3.5m sq km. "I have been predicting [the collapse of sea ice in summer months] for many years. The main cause is simply global warming: as the climate has warmed there has been less ice growth during the winter and more ice melt during the summer.

"At first this didn't [get] noticed; the summer ice limits slowly shrank back, at a rate which suggested that the ice would last another 50 years or so. But in the end the summer melt overtook the winter growth such that the entire ice sheet melts or breaks up during the summer months.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/sep/17/arctic-collapse-sea-ice

[red states rule]

I was reading about this up in Fairbanks last week, and had a good chuckle over it.


I think the wisest course for humanity now is to follow my lead and buy a Suburban and let that baby idle when you're not zooming down the highway in it.

We need more greenhouse gases, STAT!

Then in 30 years when the ice recedes a bit, we can park those 'Burbs and dust off the old Prius to save us from Global Warming.



http://www.cheshirecatstudios.com/forum/resources/global-warming-comic/3760

[Arbo]

More bad news

Does nobody on this forum actually look at what threads already exist before rushing to post crap that has already been posted?

It's like a f'n disease around here.

[NightTrain]

Does nobody on this forum actually look at what threads already exist before rushing to post crap that has already been posted?

It's like a f'n disease around here.


Nope.

I'm rarely on, and don't have time to sift through a dozen forums & threads.

Don't fret; the admins will merge duplicate threads.

[red states rule]

Does nobody on this forum actually look at what threads already exist before rushing to post crap that has already been posted?

It's like a f'n disease around here.

Who died and made you boss?

If you nothing to contribute to a thread - do not post

[Arbo]

Who died and made you boss?

Another that can not tell the difference between asking a question and commanding others to do things. Figures.


If you nothing to contribute to a thread - do not post

LOL, Man thats some funny stuff.

[red states rule]

Another that can not tell the difference between asking a question and commanding others to do things. Figures.



LOL, Man thats some funny stuff.


Well I use the Bible to respond to your "contribution" to this thread

Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge.


IOW I will not waste time arguing with an idiot

[Arbo]

Well I use the Bible to respond to your "contribution" to this thread

Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge.


IOW I will not waste time arguing with an idiot

You are the one that didn't bother to check before duplicating a thread. Lazy or dumb, who knows.

Your last line is funny in that I have been reading your posts in many threads, and you seem to think many are idiots and argue with them all constantly.

Now I am done with you.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Does nobody on this forum actually look at what threads already exist before rushing to post crap that has already been posted?

It's like a f'n disease around here. So what do you propose to do about it Herr doctor?
If only admin would put the ever loving amazing you in charge! This place could be as dead as a doorknob within a week.- :laugh:-- but you'd be in control freak heaven posting to about 9 or 10 members. ...

[red states rule]

So what do you propose to do about it Herr doctor?
If only admin would put the ever loving amazing you in charge! This place could be as dead as a doorknob within a week.- :laugh:-- but you'd be in control freak heaven posting to about 9 or 10 members. ...

The only disease I have seen around her is the FU-Arbo virus. It spreads like cancer.

I see LR and FU brought in the third stooge to round out the group

[aboutime]

Does nobody on this forum actually look at what threads already exist before rushing to post crap that has already been posted?

It's like a f'n disease around here.



We're all hoping YOU got your shots! Then that disease wouldn't be here. Oop's. I'm not permitted to say such things, or even REPEAT what you say here. It's against the rules.

[jafar00]

More bad news for the enviro wackos and libs who support a carbon tax to "save mother earth"

Well, if you use actual science the northern cooling is due to a weakening Gulf Stream which usually brings warmer waters (and air) up to the North. This means winters are more severe under global warming.

In Australia last year we recorded record high temperatures which resulted in the Bureau of Meteorology re calibrating their temperature charts because it was off the scale!

In Sydney's winter this year, July was the warmest in 150 years, August was the warmest EVER, and the beginning of September was the warmest in 150 years. Apart from the last few days which have been more like winter, we have basked in warm sunny days over winter averaging 6-8C above average temperatures.

Global warming is here and don't mistake a colder North for an ice age.

[Drummond]

So what do you propose to do about it Herr doctor?
If only admin would put the ever loving amazing you in charge! This place could be as dead as a doorknob within a week.- :laugh:-- but you'd be in control freak heaven posting to about 9 or 10 members. ...:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::beer::laug h2:

[Drummond]

Well, if you use actual science the northern cooling is due to a weakening Gulf Stream which usually brings warmer waters (and air) up to the North. This means winters are more severe under global warming.

In Australia last year we recorded record high temperatures which resulted in the Bureau of Meteorology re calibrating their temperature charts because it was off the scale!

In Sydney's winter this year, July was the warmest in 150 years, August was the warmest EVER, and the beginning of September was the warmest in 150 years. Apart from the last few days which have been more like winter, we have basked in warm sunny days over winter averaging 6-8C above average temperatures.

Global warming is here and don't mistake a colder North for an ice age.

... until next year .. or the year after ....

Check this out.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/05/26/to-the-horror-of-global-warming-alarmists-global-cooling-is-here/


The 20 to 30 year ocean temperature cycles turned back to warm from the late 1970s until the late 1990s, which is the primary reason that global temperatures warmed during this period. But that warming ended 15 years ago, and global temperatures have stopped increasing since then, if not actually cooled, even though global CO2 emissions have soared over this period. As The Economist magazine reported in March, “The world added roughly 100 billion tonnes of carbon to the atmosphere between 2000 and 2010. That is about a quarter of all the CO2 put there by humanity since 1750.” Yet, still no warming during that time. That is because the CO2 greenhouse effect is weak and marginal compared to natural causes of global temperature changes.

At first the current stall out of global warming was due to the ocean cycles turning back to cold. But something much more ominous has developed over this period. Sunspots run in 11 year short term cycles, with longer cyclical trends of 90 and even 200 years. The number of sunspots declined substantially in the last 11 year cycle, after flattening out over the previous 20 years. But in the current cycle, sunspot activity has collapsed. NASA’s Science News report for January 8, 2013 states,

“Indeed, the sun could be on the threshold of a mini-Maunder event right now. Ongoing Solar Cycle 24 [the current short term 11 year cycle] is the weakest in more than 50 years. Moreover, there is (controversial) evidence of a long-term weakening trend in the magnetic field strength of sunspots. Matt Penn and William Livingston of the National Solar Observatory predict that by the time Solar Cycle 25 arrives, magnetic fields on the sun will be so weak that few if any sunspots will be formed. Independent lines of research involving helioseismology and surface polar fields tend to support their conclusion.”

That is even more significant because NASA’s climate science has been controlled for years by global warming hysteric James Hansen, who recently announced his retirement.

But this same concern is increasingly being echoed worldwide. The Voice of Russia reported on April 22, 2013,

“Global warming which has been the subject of so many discussions in recent years, may give way to global cooling. According to scientists from the Pulkovo Observatory in St.Petersburg, solar activity is waning, so the average yearly temperature will begin to decline as well. Scientists from Britain and the US chime in saying that forecasts for global cooling are far from groundless.”

That report quoted Yuri Nagovitsyn of the Pulkovo Observatory saying, “Evidently, solar activity is on the decrease. The 11-year cycle doesn’t bring about considerable climate change – only 1-2%. The impact of the 200-year cycle is greater – up to 50%. In this respect, we could be in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years.” In other words, another Little Ice Age.

[Gaffer]

If there's going to be a 200 year cooling period with the sun then we better start cranking up the CO2 out put fast. :laugh:

As I keep saying, man doesn't affect the warmth or coolness of the planet. It's that big yellow thing in the sky.

[aboutime]

If there's going to be a 200 year cooling period with the sun then we better start cranking up the CO2 out put fast. :laugh:

As I keep saying, man doesn't affect the warmth or coolness of the planet. It's that big yellow thing in the sky.


Gaffer. Ever wonder why Al Gore always skipped over, and intentionally avoided all references to that big YELLOW thing in the sky?

It would have depleted his intentionally designed angle to make BIG BUCKS if THE TRUTH somehow got in the way of his Money Making Lies.
Al Gore obviously taught, or learned how to lie at the same place Obama taught, or learned to lie.

As the song goes for AL.
"Don't let the Sun catch you crying".

http://youtu.be/49c7WeFTay0