Obama, Syria, and al Qaeda

[hjmick]

So, if Obama orders the launching of cruise missiles on strategic Syrian targets, essentially in support of al Qaeda backed rebels, thus allying with said al Qaeda backed rebels, does this mean the "War on Terrorism" is over?


He does know about the al Qaeda links to the "rebels," right?


When did the world go mad? I must have been napping...

[Drummond]

So, if Obama orders the launching of cruise missiles on strategic Syrian targets, essentially in support of al Qaeda backed rebels, thus allying with said al Qaeda backed rebels, does this mean the "War on Terrorism" is over?


He does know about the al Qaeda links to the "rebels," right?


When did the world go mad? I must have been napping...

A good candidate for the exact time might well be when Obama got elected for his second term.

Or ... was it the first term ?

Anyway, as for the 'War on Terrorism' being over, yes, if Obama has his way, he'll see to it that it is. One good indicator was when he went public with his VERY advance notification to the world, not least America's terrorist enemies, as to the troop withdrawal timetable he intended to implement just after winning against Bush. He wasted no time in doing that .. did he ?

Obama wants to help terrorists, but in such a way as to 'sell' his efforts to the world at large. Given the Syrian situation as it reportedly 'stands', well, he doubtless sees this as one situation ripe for exploitation, consistent with a broadly (or not so broadly) treasonous agenda. One where he thinks he can pull it off, yet still emerge, smelling of roses ....

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

A good candidate for the exact time might well be when Obama got elected for his second term.

Or ... was it the first term ?

Anyway, as for the 'War on Terrorism' being over, yes, if Obama has his way, he'll see to it that it is. One good indicator was when he went public with his VERY advance notification to the world, not least America's terrorist enemies, as to the troop withdrawal timetable he intended to implement just after winning against Bush. He wasted no time in doing that .. did he ?

Obama wants to help terrorists, but in such a way as to 'sell' his efforts to the world at large. Given the Syrian situation as it reportedly 'stands', well, he doubtless sees this as one situation ripe for exploitation, consistent with a broadly (or not so broadly) treasonous agenda. One where he thinks he can pull it off, yet still emerge, smelling of roses .... And why not? He has gotten away with treason for over 4 years now....Gotten away with working against this nation's best interests too. No reason why he shouldn't feel confident to do even more is there? --Tyr

[Kathianne]

A good candidate for the exact time might well be when Obama got elected for his second term.

Or ... was it the first term ?

Anyway, as for the 'War on Terrorism' being over, yes, if Obama has his way, he'll see to it that it is. One good indicator was when he went public with his VERY advance notification to the world, not least America's terrorist enemies, as to the troop withdrawal timetable he intended to implement just after winning against Bush. He wasted no time in doing that .. did he ?

Obama wants to help terrorists, but in such a way as to 'sell' his efforts to the world at large. Given the Syrian situation as it reportedly 'stands', well, he doubtless sees this as one situation ripe for exploitation, consistent with a broadly (or not so broadly) treasonous agenda. One where he thinks he can pull it off, yet still emerge, smelling of roses ....

Drummond, please don't take this as a criticism, nor Drummond accolades either. You seem very aware of what is acceptable and not regarding international laws. You understand where the weak points are. You also are aware of where and why your Parliament might go against where you wish they would You are also aware that Obama is able and may well bypass our Congress. No? Question for you IF you were US citizen, good or bad? Obama able to ignore?

[jafar00]

So, if Obama orders the launching of cruise missiles on strategic Syrian targets, essentially in support of al Qaeda backed rebels, thus allying with said al Qaeda backed rebels, does this mean the "War on Terrorism" is over?


He does know about the al Qaeda links to the "rebels," right?


When did the world go mad? I must have been napping...

If he helps unroot Assad, it would be up to him to ensure that the FSA take control and not Al Nusra etc because I know there will be a continued war against Al Qaeda elements after he is gone.

[Kathianne]

If he helps unroot Assad, it would be up to him to ensure that the FSA take control and not Al Nusra etc because I know there will be a continued war against Al Qaeda elements after he is gone.

But Obama isn't Muslim and doesn't necessarily adhere to your dictates.

[jafar00]

But Obama isn't Muslim and doesn't necessarily adhere to your dictates.

I'm talking about the FSA against the Salafis.

[red states rule]

So, if Obama orders the launching of cruise missiles on strategic Syrian targets, essentially in support of al Qaeda backed rebels, thus allying with said al Qaeda backed rebels, does this mean the "War on Terrorism" is over?


He does know about the al Qaeda links to the "rebels," right?


When did the world go mad? I must have been napping...


All this is about Obama shooting off his big mouth, bellowing about what he would do if a "red line" was crossed

Well the red line was crossed several times, and Obama did NOT have plan in place. Now he is scrambling and shows once again what a bumbling and stumbling inept fool he is

[Truth Detector]

So, if Obama orders the launching of cruise missiles on strategic Syrian targets, essentially in support of al Qaeda backed rebels, thus allying with said al Qaeda backed rebels, does this mean the "War on Terrorism" is over?


He does know about the al Qaeda links to the "rebels," right?


When did the world go mad? I must have been napping...

Good points; the world has been going mad for as long as Liberal Socialists have been desperately seeking to consolidate their political power.

The US has temporarily joined this madness by electing an inept inexperienced buffoon simply because of the mild color of his skin. Hopefully after another 3 1/2 years of this inept buffoons leadership, or rather lack of, Americans will recover from their insanity and put a Constituitional Conservative back in charge and elect a Conservative Senate.

Im not going to hold my breath however; the capacity of the DNC to bus low information voters to the polls cannot be under-estimated.

[aboutime]

Good points; the world has been going mad for as long as Liberal Socialists have been desperately seeking to consolidate their political power.

The US has temporarily joined this madness by electing an inept inexperienced buffoon simply because of the mild color of his skin. Hopefully after another 3 1/2 years of this inept buffoons leadership, or rather lack of, Americans will recover from their insanity and put a Constituitional Conservative back in charge and elect a Conservative Senate.

Im not going to hold my breath however; the capacity of the DNC to bus low information voters to the polls cannot be under-estimated.


TD. According to Obama, and everyone he instructed in his administration, as well as several of the obama supportive MSM channels. The WAR on terror, terrorism, terrorists, Islamic terrorists, or any references to terror are FORBIDDEN.

So. Using Obama's less-than-intelligent mind-set. YES. The war on Terror is Over.
He's no longer responsible to uphold the constitution, obey his oath, or protect the American people as Our President since He will now Fully Blame Congress....and just a little bit of BUSH for everything.
It get's him off the hook, and he can hold his breath until 2016 when he and the Mrs. Sneak back to CAPONE-LAND Illinois.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

If he helps unroot Assad, it would be up to him to ensure that the FSA take control and not Al Nusra etc because I know there will be a continued war against Al Qaeda elements after he is gone. So Obama should help one side win so they could then begin another war amongst themselves. O' so brilliant a plan. :rolleyes: How about all those terrible, terrible, terrible chemical weapons? How is the magnificent bampunk gonna secure those? That's right, he can not, so they go up for grabs by those terrorist groups.
Another brilliant move by this muslim loving bastard..--Tyr

[Arbo]

TD. According to Obama, and everyone he instructed in his administration, as well as several of the obama supportive MSM channels. The WAR on terror, terrorism, terrorists, Islamic terrorists, or any references to terror are FORBIDDEN.

Is there any actual evidence to support such a statement, or is it just opinion?

[Drummond]

Is there any actual evidence to support such a statement, or is it just opinion?

Funny you should ask. It took me less than two minutes to find THIS ...

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/1014/War-on-terror-Obama-softened-the-language-but-hardened-Muslim-hearts


One of the most defining aspects of the Obama administration's counterterrorism strategy has been its effort to change America's rhetorical approach to the threat of terrorism, particularly Islamic terrorism. "The language we use matters," President Obama told the Arabic satellite television station Al Arabiya in an interview during his first week in office. Scrubbed were George W. Bush-era terms like "war on terrorism," "radical Islam," and "jihadist." The White House's 2010 National Security Strategy formally replaced the term "Islamic terrorism" with "violent extremism."

Yes. DURING HIS FIRST WEEK IN OFFICE ... AND THIS PIECE WAS DRAFTED IN 2010.

... Satisfied ?

I suggest that you show Aboutime's informative posts rather more trust in future.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Funny you should ask. It took me less than two minutes to find THIS ...

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/1014/War-on-terror-Obama-softened-the-language-but-hardened-Muslim-hearts



Yes. DURING HIS FIRST WEEK IN OFFICE ... AND THIS PIECE WAS DRAFTED IN 2010.

... Satisfied ?

I suggest that you show Aboutime's informative posts rather more trust in future. You big show off. Always one to help another more feeble person and less informed .. :poke: Arbo may not appreciate that about you but some of us do.. Good linked source. Thanks for giving the correction my friend.. Tyr

[Drummond]

You big show off. Always one to help another more feeble person and less informed .. :poke: Arbo may not appreciate that about you but some of us do.. Good linked source. Thanks for giving the correction my friend.. Tyr:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

... my pleasure, Tyr !!

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

... my pleasure, Tyr !!

And so darn proper and civil too. show off. :poke: Now quit it, 1776 we won... :banana:--Tyr

[Arbo]

Funny you should ask. It took me less than two minutes to find THIS ...

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/1014/War-on-terror-Obama-softened-the-language-but-hardened-Muslim-hearts



Yes. DURING HIS FIRST WEEK IN OFFICE ... AND THIS PIECE WAS DRAFTED IN 2010.

... Satisfied ?

I suggest that you show Aboutime's informative posts rather more trust in future.

That covers his administration. Which was already know to be true, as I read that years ago. I am more wondering about the MSM reference. Which could be assumed, but have never seen any proof of.

So now I will sit back and laugh as you two pat each other on the back for a half assed answer and make other lame personal comments, while I away the answer to the whole question asked.

[Drummond]

And so darn proper and civil too. show off. :poke: Now quit it, 1776 we won... :banana:--Tyr:laugh::laugh::laugh::salute:

[Drummond]

That covers his administration. Which was already know to be true, as I read that years ago. I am more wondering about the MSM reference. Which could be assumed, but have never seen any proof of.

So now I will sit back and laugh as you two pat each other on the back for a half assed answer and make other lame personal comments, while I away the answer to the whole question asked.

Shifting the goalposts, trying to wriggle free of having the main criticism being answered as it was ?

Fact is, Arbo, you were too keen to indulge in your little put-down. As I told you, put trust in Aboutime's posts.

[Kathianne]

http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/04/04/the-associated-press-revises-islamist-another-politically-charged-term

[Arbo]

Shifting the goalposts, trying to wriggle free of having the main criticism being answered as it was ?

There is no shifting of goalposts, his comment was:


According to Obama, and everyone he instructed in his administration, as well as several of the obama supportive MSM channels. The WAR on terror, terrorism, terrorists, Islamic terrorists, or any references to terror are FORBIDDEN.

My question was if he had evidence to support such a statement. That means the WHOLE statement. So I will again wait for a complete answer while you two deflect.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/04/04/the-associated-press-revises-islamist-another-politically-charged-term Another good one which illustrates how they will do it one small step at a time --not terrorist attack--instead workplace violence , not Islamists instead freedom fighters , etc.. Obama and crew are in on this too. Working towards NOT GOD-- INSTEAD ALLAH!! --Tyr

[Arbo]

http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/04/04/the-associated-press-revises-islamist-another-politically-charged-term

Yes, the AP recently did this. I think there were actually a few other terms that are not mentioned in that article that they decided to stop using for the purpose of being PC.

Unless I missed it, it doesn't say that Obama told them to do it years ago.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

From the link given....
As of Thursday's update, the AP definition reads:

An advocate or supporter of a political movement that favors reordering government and society in accordance with laws prescribed by Islam. Do not use as a synonym for Islamic fighters, militants, extremists or radicals, who may or may not be Islamists.

Where possible, be specific and use the name of militant affiliations: al-Qaida-linked, Hezbollah, Taliban, etc. Those who view the Quran as a political model encompass a wide range of Muslims, from mainstream politicians to militants known as jihadi.

CAIR praised the AP's update. "We believe this revision is a step in the right direction and will result in fewer negative generalizations in coverage of issues related to Islam and Muslims," Hooper said. "The key issue with the term ‘Islamist’ is not its continued use; the issue is its use almost exclusively as an ill-defined pejorative."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ^^^^^^^^ More hiding the truth by banning words that have a truthful and negative connotation. How soon before such words are banned in public and on the internet? Because that's is where this stuff is headed. I'll fight the first man that ever tells me crap like that face to face and his damn size or authority position doesn't matter. never has to me..-F- these un-American SOBs.. -Tyr

[red states rule]

I have to admit it is funny watching Obama be humiliated on the world stage. I do hope the idiots who voted for this clown are getting what they voted for


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