Another gang rape in Egypt

[jimnyc]

Remember last year and Lara Logan? Look it up if not. Anyway, here we go again. It's bad enough over here with all of the unrest. But do these people not have ANY decency? The violence and abuse over there towards women is completely out of control. My second thought is, if it were at the Square, why didn't anyone intervene? I asked the same thing about Lara too. Always a blind eye.

Foreign reporter raped in Tahrir Square Hospital reports Dutch journalist underwent gang rape in Cairo square several days ago. Reporter released from hospital after undergoing surgery

Egyptian media reported Sunday that a Dutch journalist was raped by several men in Cairo's Tahrir Square a few days ago.

Dina Zakaria, a journalist reporting for the "Egypt 25" news channel affiliated with the January 25 revolution, shared the incident on her Facebook page Sunday: "A Dutch journalist in Tahrir was raped by men who dub themselves revolutionists. Her condition is severe and she is hospitalized."

Meanwhile, a state hospital issued a statement that the journalist was admitted after being raped by five men several days ago. She underwent surgery and has been released. It was also reported that Egypt's Prosecutor General Talaat Abdallah ordered his staff to go to the hospital to hear the woman's story and reveal the circumstances behind the violent attack.

Egyptian women face sexual harassment and assaults on a daily basis. During and after the revolution, there have been a number of case of foreign reporters who were sexually assaulted, such as Sonia Dridi and Lara Logan.

Sexual harassment is not new within the conservative Egyptian society, yet the extent of this phenomenon has grown and become more violent and visible. The Egyptian law defines assault as a crime, but not sexual assault.

The United Nations claimed last month that it holds some 25 sexual assault reports that occurred in Tahrir Square, the center of the protest, in one week in the beginning of the year. The organization dedicated to preventing sexual assaults, whose activists patrolled Tahrir Square, reported 19 assaults on January 25 alone – the second anniversary of the uprising against Hosni Mubarak. Among the reports was also a case of a girl who was raped by a sharp instrument.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4399041,00.html

[Marcus Aurelius]

Must have been some Coptic Christians. Muslim men don't rape women,they revere them, according to Jahil.

[jafar00]

Um... Don't go to a place where people are in the middle of a revolution where there is no police presence if you want to be 100% sure of your safety?

How's that for good advice?

Oh, and Suez is probably not a good place to be now either. They have guns this time and are shooting each other.

[hjmick]

Um... Don't go to a place where people are in the middle of a revolution where there is no police presence if you want to be 100% sure of your safety?

How's that for good advice?

Oh, and Suez is probably not a good place to be now either. They have guns this time and are shooting each other.

Um... Don't rape people?


How's that for rules by which to live?


Fucking animals.

[Marcus Aurelius]

Um... Don't go to a [MUSLIM] place where people are in the middle of a revolution where there is no police presence if you want to be 100% sure [YOU ARE NOT RAPED BY MUSLIMS]?

How's that for good advice?

Oh, and Suez is probably not a good place to be now either. They have guns this time and are shooting each other.

I corrected your statement above. You're welcome, dumb ass.

[logroller]

I corrected your statement above. You're welcome, dumb ass.
Right, because only Muslims gang rape.

[jafar00]

Right, because only Muslims gang rape.

If you read this forum lately, only Muslims do bad things.

[Marcus Aurelius]

Right, because only Muslims gang rape.

In this case, yes... it was Muslims.

[Marcus Aurelius]

If you read this forum lately, only Muslims do bad things.

Only Muslims do bad things, in the name of peace, dumb ass.

Only Muslims do bad things, and lie about it, claiming it wasn't 'really' Muslims that did it, dumb ass.

[logroller]

In this case, yes... it was Muslims.
Not all Muslims rape women, and not all rapes are committed by Muslims-- so why is their being muslim relevant? And furthermore, why troll jafar about it? Everytime there's a shooting, is it justified for antigun proponents to blame the nra?
I do find it troubling that, allegedly, Egypt has no sexual assault laws; but that's the issue, not Islam. There certainly are some other troubling things about the so-called "conservative" cultures of predominantly muslim societies, but western societies aren't devoid of sex-related crimes. Human trafficking for example. Is that capitalism's fault?

[Gaffer]

Not all Muslims rape women, and not all rapes are committed by Muslims-- so why is their being muslim relevant? And furthermore, why troll jafar about it? Everytime there's a shooting, is it justified for antigun proponents to blame the nra?
I do find it troubling that, allegedly, Egypt has no sexual assault laws; but that's the issue, not Islam. There certainly are some other troubling things about the so-called "conservative" cultures of predominantly muslim societies, but western societies aren't devoid of sex-related crimes. Human trafficking for example. Is that capitalism's fault?

Its arab spring II. The egyptians want a real democracy and not an islamic run theocracy. So they are taking to the streets again. If they are ever going to have sexual assault laws they have to have a legitimate govt. Without laws to reign them in many men will do as they please with women. If you don't have murder laws murders will be committed.

islam is the source of the laws in egypt and the rest of the ME. As long as it remains in the govt there will never be any real protection for women or the people in general. At least part of the population in egypt seems to be recognizing that fact.

[jafar00]

Um... Don't rape people?


How's that for rules by which to live?


Fucking animals.

Wherever humans gather in large numbers, crimes are committed. Why the focus on Egyptians? As if they are the only ones who do it.

Horror at family music festival as teenage girl is gang raped after getting lost

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Music Festival Fans. "Fucking Animals".

[Voted4Reagan]

Wherever humans gather in large numbers, crimes are committed. Why the focus on Egyptians? As if they are the only ones who do it.

Horror at family music festival as teenage girl is gang raped after getting lost

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Pop fan raped in tent (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-68734/Pop-fan-raped-tent.html)


Woman reports rape, possible drugging at Summer Camp

Read more: http://www.pjstar.com/news/x863234161/Woman-reports-rape-possible-drugging-at-Summer-Camp#ixzz2XvZAnYfx

Second rape at Latitude music festival in Suffolk (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-10676193)


Girl, 15, raped at Bestival music festival (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/girl-15-raped-at-bestival-music-153573)


17-year-old girl raped at music festival (http://www.thelocal.se/41212/20120602/)


Music Festival Fans. "Fucking Animals".

99.3% of Egyptian women experienced sexual harassment: report

http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2013/04/28/99-3-of-egyptian-women-experienced-sexual-harassment-report/


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[hjmick]

Wherever humans gather in large numbers, crimes are committed. Why the focus on Egyptians? As if they are the only ones who do it.

Horror at family music festival as teenage girl is gang raped after getting lost

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1295314/Teenager-raped-Latitude-music-festival-asking-directions-toilet.html#ixzz2XvYw8MPu
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Pop fan raped in tent (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-68734/Pop-fan-raped-tent.html)


Woman reports rape, possible drugging at Summer Camp

Read more: http://www.pjstar.com/news/x863234161/Woman-reports-rape-possible-drugging-at-Summer-Camp#ixzz2XvZAnYfx

Second rape at Latitude music festival in Suffolk (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-10676193)


Girl, 15, raped at Bestival music festival (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/girl-15-raped-at-bestival-music-153573)


17-year-old girl raped at music festival (http://www.thelocal.se/41212/20120602/)


Music Festival Fans. "Fucking Animals".

All rapists are animals, fuckwit.

What I find especially offensive is your misogynistic and ignorant comment:


Um... Don't go to a place where people are in the middle of a revolution where there is no police presence if you want to be 100% sure of your safety?

How's that for good advice?

Oh, and Suez is probably not a good place to be now either. They have guns this time and are shooting each other.

As if that excuses rape, or any other violent action. As if it was her fault. As if you were excusing the actions of the mob. As if she deserved it Is that what you were doing? Because it sure seems like it...

Go fuck a donkey.

[Drummond]

Not all Muslims rape women, and not all rapes are committed by Muslims-- so why is their being muslim relevant? And furthermore, why troll jafar about it? Everytime there's a shooting, is it justified for antigun proponents to blame the nra?
I do find it troubling that, allegedly, Egypt has no sexual assault laws; but that's the issue, not Islam. There certainly are some other troubling things about the so-called "conservative" cultures of predominantly muslim societies, but western societies aren't devoid of sex-related crimes. Human trafficking for example. Is that capitalism's fault?

The title of this thread is 'Another gang rape in Egypt'. It refers, obviously, to (a) the gang rape which occurred, and (b) its location, in Egypt.

I've been reading some stats on Egypt. Apparently, 94 percent of Egypt is composed of Muslims. I strongly suspect, therefore, that Islam has SOME form of connection ....

... and especially considering your observation that Egypt has no sexual assault laws. Now ... could that JUST BE, because ... those same Muslims are governed by Sharia Law ?

Apparently, in Egypt, Christian families can be governed by Canon law, and Jewish families by Jewish law (... which is interesting). However, with a very large majority of Egyptians being Muslim (nearly 19 in 20) ... what's the likelihood that what we have here is a definably Muslim issue ?

Perhaps Jafar would be better employed in proving, against overwhelming odds, that those guilty 'were not Muslims' (.. should be easy, in fact, since so many Muslims AREN'T Muslims, according to Jafar ...). If on the other hand he can't, well .. I'd say that Islamic Law, evidently prejudiced against conferring even basic rights to women, has to be a factor in what the rapists needed to be concerned with.

[Marcus Aurelius]

99.3% of Egyptian women experienced sexual harassment: report

http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2013/04/28/99-3-of-egyptian-women-experienced-sexual-harassment-report/




http://i0.wp.com/www.dailynewsegypt.com/beta/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Basil.jpg?resize=860%2C585

Yes, but it must be the Coptic Christians or someone pretending to be Muslim doing the harassing. After all, No Muslim would ever do such a thing... right, Jahir?

[aboutime]

Only Muslims do bad things, in the name of peace, dumb ass.

Only Muslims do bad things, and lie about it, claiming it wasn't 'really' Muslims that did it, dumb ass.


Marcus. And, how do we know that? We just wait for jafar to post. Simple remedy. Problem solved.

[Voted4Reagan]

2012 study finds alcohol consumption has nearly doubled in the Muslim world between 2001 and 2011, and the rise in alcohol-sales is “unlikely to be accounted for by non-Muslims and foreigners alone.” In fact, Muslims have played a “direct” role in the rise of alcohol consumption, and drinking alcohol is “becoming a common part of many lives in the Islamic world.”
While alcohol consumption is supposedly forbidden, the Muslim world has seen nearly double the increase in alcohol consumption in the past decade, according to a new study. Across the Islamic world, The Economist magazine said, consumption is on the rise, with an increase of some 72 percent between 2001 and 2011.
“I believe it 100 percent,” said Egyptian lawyer Ahmed, who regularly joins his friends at a bar after work for a beer.
“We just like to enjoy ourselves and this whole religion thing has not been something that hinders us,” he told Bikyamasr.com.
Surprisingly, the Islamic world’s increase in boozing has been as the rest of the world has only grown in its alcohol consumption by some 30 percent.

The magazine, in its report on the new figures, said that the “rise [in alcohol-sales in the Middle East] is unlikely to be accounted for by non-Muslims and foreigners alone.”
Muslims are just as likely to partake in drinking as their non-Muslim counterparts. Granted, there are some Muslims who maintain abstinence to drinking, but the magazine and others believe Muslims have had a direct role in the rise of alcohol.

Although a taboo in many Muslim countries, more so in places like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Libya and Pakistan where it is legally banned, drinking is still commonplace.
In other places, such as Lebanon, Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia and Egypt it is legal to consume alcohol and bars are often crowded.
. . .

While there are some countries where drinking is lower, overall drinking is becoming a common part of many lives in the Islamic world, from Morocco to Indonesia.[5]

(http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_%28Alcohol_and_Drugs%29#cite_not e-BMSep32012-4)
(http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_%28Alcohol_and_Drugs%29#cite_not e-BMSep32012-4) 5.0 (http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_%28Alcohol_and_Drugs%29#cite_not e-BMSep32012-4) 5.1 (http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_%28Alcohol_and_Drugs%29#cite_ref-BMSep32012_4-1) 5.2 (http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_%28Alcohol_and_Drugs%29#cite_ref-BMSep32012_4-2) Joseph Mayton - Alcohol use on the rise in Middle East (http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.bikyamasr.com/76700/alcohol-use-on-the-rise-in-middle-east/&date=2012-09-05) - Bikya Masr, September 3, 2012

[Marcus Aurelius]

The title of this thread is 'Another gang rape in Egypt'. It refers, obviously, to (a) the gang rape which occurred, and (b) its location, in Egypt.

I've been reading some stats on Egypt. Apparently, 94 percent of Egypt is composed of Muslims. I strongly suspect, therefore, that Islam has SOME form of connection ....

... and especially considering your observation that Egypt has no sexual assault laws. Now ... could that JUST BE, because ... those same Muslims are governed by Sharia Law ?

Apparently, in Egypt, Christian families can be governed by Canon law, and Jewish families by Jewish law (... which is interesting). However, with a very large majority of Egyptians being Muslim (nearly 19 in 20) ... what's the likelihood that what we have here is a definably Muslim issue ?

Perhaps Jafar would be better employed in proving, against overwhelming odds, that those guilty 'were not Muslims' (.. should be easy, in fact, since so many Muslims AREN'T Muslims, according to Jafar ...). If on the other hand he can't, well .. I'd say that Islamic Law, evidently prejudiced against conferring even basic rights to women, has to be a factor in what the rapists needed to be concerned with.

Math is a bitch, ain't it ;)

[Voted4Reagan]

Math is a bitch, ain't it ;)

according to Sharia the Penalty for Rape is Death by Stoning.....

Funny that we never see that one carried out....

[red state]

No...that law isn't "EXECUTED" is it BUT when a muSLUM man gets tired of his wife OR simply finds a better looking, younger woman (or girl), trumped up charges seem to be just the trick in getting his wife stoned so that he can get him another one. Not all muSLUMS are rich and when it comes to trading in the camel or a few goats so that one can get another wife....well, as they say: "out with the old and in with the new". For the life of me, I can't understand why muSLUMS would follow such a dictatorial cult....except for my understanding of how many folks of earlier day in America felt towards slavery. Back then, even blacks dreamed of the day when they could also have slaves and a farm in which they could grow very wealthy. They were wrong then and, as often the case, greedy, self-centered people are wrong today. Some cultures revere womanhood and others have and will ALWAYS disrespect and abuse them. Amazing to contemplate how "comfortable" liberals of America are with iSLUM but then again, all one has to do is look to history. There have been groups who thought that they could use and control certain individuals to achieve their goals only to find that they themselves were the ones being used. As those folks found out just a few decades ago....so will the liberals discover this truth (IF) patriotic, God fearing, gun toting Americans can't save the day (AGAIN).

[logroller]

The title of this thread is 'Another gang rape in Egypt'. It refers, obviously, to (a) the gang rape which occurred, and (b) its location, in Egypt.
agreed. But a general perspective is fairplay IMO.

I've been reading some stats on Egypt. Apparently, 94 percent of Egypt is composed of Muslims. I strongly suspect, therefore, that Islam has SOME form of connection ....
A connection? Dunno. Perhaps there is correlation, but thats not causation. I suspect there's an even stronger correlation to rapes that occur in areas experiencing significant political turmoil and general lawlessness regardless of religion/culture.


... and especially considering your observation that Egypt has no sexual assault laws. Now ... could that JUST BE, because ... those same Muslims are governed by Sharia Law ?
Again, correlation is not causation. Where I'd hang my hat, from your perspective, is in the higher likelihood that rapes go unreported due to the stigma attached to being impure in Islam.


Apparently, in Egypt, Christian families can be governed by Canon law, and Jewish families by Jewish law (... which is interesting). However, with a very large majority of Egyptians being Muslim (nearly 19 in 20) ... what's the likelihood that what we have here is a definably Muslim issue ?
Not too high I suspect. Rapes occur in many nations, even those with equality under law. Begging difference from the aforementioned underreporting due to culture stigmas.



Perhaps Jafar would be better employed in proving, against overwhelming odds, that those guilty 'were not Muslims' (.. should be easy, in fact, since so many Muslims AREN'T Muslims, according to Jafar ...). If on the other hand he can't, well .. I'd say that Islamic Law, evidently prejudiced against conferring even basic rights to women, has to be a factor in what the rapists needed to be concerned with.
A factor, sure. No doubt culture plays a huge part in rape. Even western cultures have a despicable notion that defaults to "she was asking for it". Its not uncommon for rape victims in western societies to have their identity concealed; why might that be? A stigma perhaps?