Port Authority releases photo of One WTC workers at dizzying heights

[jimnyc]

Much respect to these guys. Not only for bringing our building back to us - but for being up that high on the outside of a building! LOL Not enough money in the world to get me to do this. Even worse are those crazy bastards who wash windows on skyscrapers!!

http://imageshack.us/a/img12/2696/wtc51957301900x675.jpg

[BillyBob]

I couldn't do that. Been in the trades all my life but no f*cking way could I do that.

[jafar00]

It's not like they aren't tethered to the building. It wouldn't be so bad as long as you didn't fear heights.

[BillyBob]

It's not like they aren't tethered to the building. It wouldn't be so bad as long as you didn't fear heights.


Tether or not, no way I'm going up there.

[WiccanLiberal]

I am amazed at the progress of the tower. I can see the building from one or two points at work. I have been watching it slowly get taller and more impressive. Those guys are doing one of those jobs that not too many would sign up for.

[jimnyc]

It's not like they aren't tethered to the building. It wouldn't be so bad as long as you didn't fear heights.

I do fear heights! You could use 100 tethers at once and still no way in hell I go out there! Back in about 1990 or so, I was on the 104th floor of one of the WTC buildings, forget which on right now. I stood up on the AC unit by the walk and placed my hands outstretched on the glass. That was scary enough. I lasted for about 3 seconds and backed off. You could slowly feel the building swaying. Imagine the swaying from being outside with the winds up there!

But yeah, to put it in comparison, I climbed out my upstairs bathroom window to get to my satellite dish once. I made it to within about a foot of the dish before I quickly retreated, and that portion of the house is probably about 20-25' if I had to guess!

[jafar00]

I do fear heights! You could use 100 tethers at once and still no way in hell I go out there! Back in about 1990 or so, I was on the 104th floor of one of the WTC buildings, forget which on right now. I stood up on the AC unit by the walk and placed my hands outstretched on the glass. That was scary enough. I lasted for about 3 seconds and backed off. You could slowly feel the building swaying. Imagine the swaying from being outside with the winds up there!

But yeah, to put it in comparison, I climbed out my upstairs bathroom window to get to my satellite dish once. I made it to within about a foot of the dish before I quickly retreated, and that portion of the house is probably about 20-25' if I had to guess!

Sure, it wouldn't be a cakewalk. No hi rise construction project is easy. Those guys are amazing for what they do and they have my full respect. But I'm sure you wouldn't be so scared if you had so much experience in the job that being at height is second nature.

[WiccanLiberal]

The guys at the Freedom Tower have a lot more safety measures in place. I really admire the old school iron workers. At the ESB there were only 5 fatalities during construction and only 2 of those from falls.


http://thedailymind.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/lewis_hine_phot_nyc_empire.jpg

[jafar00]

The guys at the Freedom Tower have a lot more safety measures in place. I really admire the old school iron workers. At the ESB there were only 5 fatalities during construction and only 2 of those from falls.


http://thedailymind.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/lewis_hine_phot_nyc_empire.jpg

Regulation stops that from happening.

That kind of construction still happens in Egypt. I've seen them hanging off a building 10 stories up hammering away only staying there because they are hanging on to a rickety wooden scaffold with the other arm.

[BillyBob]

Regulation stops that from happening.

That kind of construction still happens in Egypt. I've seen them hanging off a building 10 stories up hammering away only staying there because they are hanging on to a rickety wooden scaffold with the other arm.


Nobody ever said muslims were smart.

[jafar00]

Nobody ever said muslims were smart.

If it wasn't for Muslims advancing scientific knowledge, you wouldn't have things like cameras, hospitals or modern surgery, antiseptics, anaesthesia, vaccination, soap and regular bathing, advances in Astronomy (some stars even have arabic names like Deneb, Algol, Betelgeuse, Rigel, Aldebran ....), Algebra, Coffee, Chess, Irrigation, valves and pistons in engines, Windmills, numbers, cryptology, cheques, compasses, braille, in 852 a Muslim made a hang glider that flew for several minutes before he crashed and hurt himself, modern chemistry, the Earth being round........

[Voted4Reagan]

If it wasn't for Muslims advancing scientific knowledge, you wouldn't have things like cameras, hospitals or modern surgery, antiseptics, anaesthesia, vaccination, soap and regular bathing, advances in Astronomy (some stars even have arabic names like Deneb, Algol, Betelgeuse, Rigel, Aldebran ....), Algebra, Coffee, Chess, Irrigation, valves and pistons in engines, Windmills, numbers, cryptology, cheques, compasses, braille, in 852 a Muslim made a hang glider that flew for several minutes before he crashed and hurt himself, modern chemistry, the Earth being round........n

no person denies the contributions that Muslim people made to science more then 1000 years ago.

The problem being that the actions of todays radical elements overshadow those contributions Jafar.

Muslims made contributions in chemistry, mathematics, astronomy and botany.

Those contributions will be forever diminished unless the muslim world cleans up it's act in how they are perceived by the world at large.

[Gaffer]

If it wasn't for Muslims advancing scientific knowledge, you wouldn't have things like cameras, hospitals or modern surgery, antiseptics, anaesthesia, vaccination, soap and regular bathing, advances in Astronomy (some stars even have arabic names like Deneb, Algol, Betelgeuse, Rigel, Aldebran ....), Algebra, Coffee, Chess, Irrigation, valves and pistons in engines, Windmills, numbers, cryptology, cheques, compasses, braille, in 852 a Muslim made a hang glider that flew for several minutes before he crashed and hurt himself, modern chemistry, the Earth being round........

Muslim contributions to science ended 1000 years ago. They have added nothing to science and technology since. They use what is produced, but produce nothing. Those that want to learn and advance themselves must do it in a western culture.

[BillyBob]

If it wasn't for Muslims advancing scientific knowledge, you wouldn't have things like cameras, hospitals or modern surgery, antiseptics, anaesthesia, vaccination, soap and regular bathing, advances in Astronomy (some stars even have arabic names like Deneb, Algol, Betelgeuse, Rigel, Aldebran ....), Algebra, Coffee, Chess, Irrigation, valves and pistons in engines, Windmills, numbers, cryptology, cheques, compasses, braille, in 852 a Muslim made a hang glider that flew for several minutes before he crashed and hurt himself, modern chemistry, the Earth being round........

You are out of your mind. Do you muzzies actually believe your own propaganda?

Example: The fact that Earth is round was known millennia before the invention of islam. Greek mathematician Erastosthenes even measured the Earth's circumference in the 3rd century BC.



Eratosthenes is also known for his achievement in astronomy. Several astronomers and mathematicians before and after Eratosthenes tried to accurately measure the circumference of the Earth, but is was Eratosthenes that came through. He found the circumference of the Earth to be nearly 250,000 stadia (25,000 miles). Eratosthenes observed that the sun shone directly down a well at high noon on the day of the summer solstice in Syene and that it cast a shadow in Alexandria, directly south of where the well was. To calculate the circumference of the Earth, Eratosthenes measured the angle of the shadow to the Earth. (http://www.math.wichita.edu/history/men/eratosthenes.html)

[BillyBob]

Muslim contributions to science ended 1000 years ago. They have added nothing to science and technology since. They use what is produced, but produce nothing. Those that want to learn and advance themselves must do it in a western culture.


Modern Muslim. LOL!


http://www.transitionsabroad.com/listings/travel/articles/images/bate-sudan-man-on-camel.jpg

[BillyBob]

I guess we've derailed this thread enough. We should probably start another one for jafar.

We could name it....Things Muslims Didn't Invent but Pretend They Did Anyway

Irrigation? LOL!

[Marcus Aurelius]

If it wasn't for Muslims advancing scientific knowledge, you wouldn't have things like cameras, hospitals or modern surgery, antiseptics, anaesthesia, vaccination, soap and regular bathing, advances in Astronomy (some stars even have arabic names like Deneb, Algol, Betelgeuse, Rigel, Aldebran ....), Algebra, Coffee, Chess, Irrigation, valves and pistons in engines, Windmills, numbers, cryptology, cheques, compasses, braille, in 852 a Muslim made a hang glider that flew for several minutes before he crashed and hurt himself, modern chemistry, the Earth being round........

Quite possibly the biggest pack of lies ever told on this board...


The camera obscura was invented by the Chinese, and is the earliest precursor to the first cameras.

Earliest hospitals were in Rome in 230 BC

Sushruta was an Indian (not Muslim) and is the author of the earliest known texts on surgery, written in Sanskrit, dated 6th century BCE. The first 'modern' surgeons were French doctors in the Napolionic wars.

First recored use of antiseptics was in ancient Greece.

Ancient Greek and Roman texts mention various anesthetics as early as Hippocrates, Theophratus, Aulus Cornelius Celsus, Pendanius Dioscorides and Pliny the Elder. The first modern general anesthetic was ether, first used by Crawford Long in 1842.

Eleventh-century Chinese priests had patients inhale crumpled smallpox scabs; the first successful vaccine was an aerosol.

Soap was invented by the Babylonians, in 2800 BC... long before Islam existed.

Earliest baths were mid 2nd millennium BC, in Greece.

Myan's are the oldest civilization to study the stars, going back 2000 BC.

Algebra was invented by a Muslim in 820 AD (congrats, that's 1 on your list that isn't a lie!)

Coffee... Islam (there's two that were not outright lies!)

Chess was invented in India in the 6th century BC, then moved to Persia.

Irrigation was invented by the ancient Egyptians.

First piston was invented by Ctesibius, a Greek, around 250 BC. The piston as used in engines was invented by James Watts, a Scottish engineer in the 1700's.

The earliest use of wind to power a machine ws by Greek mathematician Heron of Alexandria in 1 AD

The first numbers were used about 32,000 years ago, so you're a bit off there, dumb ass. As for modern numbering systems, yhe Indians invented the modern number system. It is often called Arabic numerals because it came to Europe through the Arabs. But Arabs themselves call it as “HindSaa” meaning – “given by Hindus or Indians”. The Persians copied the Indian number system and then passed it on to the Arabs.

The earliest known use of cryptography is some carved ciphertext on stone in Egypt in 1900 BC

Checks were first used in India, during the Mauryan period (from 321 to 185 BC)

The compass was invented in China, during the Han Dynasty between the 2nd century BC and 1st century AD

Braille is named after its creator, Frenchman Louis Braille

Regarding your hang glider nonsense...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbas_Ibn_Firnas

A single missive mentions Firnas employing wings for flight- composed seven centuries after the reputed undertaking by the Moroccan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco) historian Ahmed Mohammed al-Maqqari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Mohammed_al-Maqqari) (d. 1632):[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbas_Ibn_Firnas#cite_note-Lynn_White_1961.2C_101-5)


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Among other very curious experiments which he made, one is his trying to fly. He covered himself with feathers for the purpose, attached a couple of wings to his body, and, getting on an eminence, flung himself down into the air, when according to the testimony of several trustworthy writers who witnessed the performance, he flew a considerable distance, as if he had been a bird, but, in alighting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landing) again on the place whence he had started, his back was very much hurt, for not knowing that birds when they alight come down upon their tails, he forgot to provide himself with one.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbas_Ibn_Firnas#cite_note-Lynn_White_1961.2C_100f.-4)
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Al-Maqqari is said to have used in his history works "many early sources no longer extant", but in case of Firnas the only one cited by him was a 9th century poem written by Mu'min ibn Said, a court poet of Córdoba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B3rdoba,_Spain) under Muhammad I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_I_of_C%C3%B3rdoba) (d. 886), who was acquainted with and usually critical of Ibn Firnas.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbas_Ibn_Firnas#cite_note-Lynn_White_1961.2C_100f.-4) The pertinent verse runs: "He flew faster than the phoenix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_%28mythology%29) in his flight when he dressed his body in the feathers of a vulture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulture)."[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbas_Ibn_Firnas#cite_note-Lynn_White_1961.2C_101-5) No other surviving sources refer to the event.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbas_Ibn_Firnas#cite_note-6)

It has been suggested that Ibn Firnas' attempt at glider (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glider_aircraft) flight might have inspired the attempt by Eilmer of Malmesbury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eilmer_of_Malmesbury) between 1000 and 1010 in England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England) but there is no evidence supporting this hypothesis.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbas_Ibn_Firnas#cite_note-Lynn_White_1961.2C_100f.-4)

based on a freaking poem? Really? ROFLMFAO!

Ancient egyptians pioneered 'wet' chemsitry 4,000 years ago. The building blocks of modern chemistry were laid in 1,000 BC. Greeks, Romans, all had chemistry long before anyone else.

Spherical Earth theory began in Greece, in the 6th century BC.




It took me less than 10 minutes on Google to prove almost everything you claimed were lies, Jahil.

Dumb ass

[aboutime]

Quite possibly the biggest pack of lies ever told on this board...


The camera obscura was invented by the Chinese, and is the earliest precursor to the first cameras.

Earliest hospitals were in Rome in 230 BC

Sushruta was an Indian (not Muslim) and is the author of the earliest known texts on surgery, written in Sanskrit, dated 6th century BCE. The first 'modern' surgeons were French doctors in the Napolionic wars.

First recored use of antiseptics was in ancient Greece.

Ancient Greek and Roman texts mention various anesthetics as early as Hippocrates, Theophratus, Aulus Cornelius Celsus, Pendanius Dioscorides and Pliny the Elder. The first modern general anesthetic was ether, first used by Crawford Long in 1842.

Eleventh-century Chinese priests had patients inhale crumpled smallpox scabs; the first successful vaccine was an aerosol.

Soap was invented by the Babylonians, in 2800 BC... long before Islam existed.

Earliest baths were mid 2nd millennium BC, in Greece.

Myan's are the oldest civilization to study the stars, going back 2000 BC.

Algebra was invented by a Muslim in 820 AD (congrats, that's 1 on your list that isn't a lie!)

Coffee... Islam (there's two that were not outright lies!)

Chess was invented in India in the 6th century BC, then moved to Persia.

Irrigation was invented by the ancient Egyptians.

First piston was invented by Ctesibius, a Greek, around 250 BC. The piston as used in engines was invented by James Watts, a Scottish engineer in the 1700's.

The earliest use of wind to power a machine ws by Greek mathematician Heron of Alexandria in 1 AD

The first numbers were used about 32,000 years ago, so you're a bit off there, dumb ass. As for modern numbering systems, yhe Indians invented the modern number system. It is often called Arabic numerals because it came to Europe through the Arabs. But Arabs themselves call it as “HindSaa” meaning – “given by Hindus or Indians”. The Persians copied the Indian number system and then passed it on to the Arabs.

The earliest known use of cryptography is some carved ciphertext on stone in Egypt in 1900 BC

Checks were first used in India, during the Mauryan period (from 321 to 185 BC)

The compass was invented in China, during the Han Dynasty between the 2nd century BC and 1st century AD

Braille is named after its creator, Frenchman Louis Braille

Regarding your hang glider nonsense...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbas_Ibn_Firnas
based on a freaking poem? Really? ROFLMFAO!

Ancient egyptians pioneered 'wet' chemsitry 4,000 years ago. The building blocks of modern chemistry were laid in 1,000 BC. Greeks, Romans, all had chemistry long before anyone else.

Spherical Earth theory began in Greece, in the 6th century BC.




It took me less than 10 minutes on Google to prove almost everything you claimed were lies, Jahil.

Dumb ass


Marcus. Since jafar insists so much. We should at least grant him the High Honor of perfecting his Impressions of Obama, as the most qualified LIAR available to the rest of us, here on DP.
Give credit, where credit is due. Jafar is almost as proficient, and expert in lying as Obama. Give him time to Improve.

[MtnBiker]

Marcus. Since jafar insists so much. We should at least grant him the High Honor of perfecting his Impressions of Obama, as the most qualified LIAR available to the rest of us, here on DP.
Give credit, where credit is due. Jafar is almost as proficient, and expert in lying as Obama. Give him time to Improve.

Well let's give him the benefit of doubt. I do not believe Jafar believed he was lying, it is just the result of the low information crowd. They truly believe the false information that is feed to them.
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[aboutime]

Well let's give him the benefit of doubt. I do not believe Jafar believed he was lying, it is just the result of the low information crowd. They truly believe the false information that is feed to them.
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MtnBiker. Agreed. Funny how Jafar seems to have gotten a late issue of the DNC Talking Points Manual from Debbie Wasserman Schultz. The Democrat National Committee ChairWitch.

Reminded me of how Jafar may also have gone swimming in the DNC Olympic Pool in Washington. The pool full of Grape, Pucker Power5073

[Gaffer]

Much respect to these guys. Not only for bringing our building back to us - but for being up that high on the outside of a building! LOL Not enough money in the world to get me to do this. Even worse are those crazy bastards who wash windows on skyscrapers!!http://imageshack.us/a/img12/2696/wtc51957301900x675.jpgI am just wondering who took the picture?

[Marcus Aurelius]

I am just wondering who took the picture?

some moron, er, brave soul, climbed above a bit with a wide angle lens.