Civ Cargo plane crashes - Bagrahm; on camera.

[darin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icfVsql38oc


A Boeing 747-400BCF cargo plane, operated by National Air Cargo, crashed on takeoff from Bagram Air Base (BPM), Afghanistan. A base spokesman said the aircraft crashed from a low altitude right after takeoff. A fire erupted. An air base official reported that all seven crew members were killed in the accident.
Bagram Air Base has a single concrete runway, 03/21 of 11819 feet (3602 m) in length. According to eyewitness reports, the airplane attained a very steep nose-up attitude immediately after takeoff from runway 03. It rolled left and right and entered a stall, descending towards the ground until it struck the ground near the end of the runway.

Reportedly N949CA operated into Bagram as flight NCR510 from Châteauroux Airport Airport (CHR), France on April 28. The identity of the accident airplane has not yet been confirmed by authorities.

A thunderstorm with Cumulonimbus clouds was approaching the air base at the time of the accident. A weather report shows winds began shifting from 100 degrees at 09:55 UTC to 350 degrees at 10:55 UTC. Accident time was about 15:00 LT / 10:30 UTC:

[fj1200]

Wow.

[jimnyc]

Looked like the plane was trying to go straight up, weird. All civilians onboard?

[Marcus Aurelius]

i wonder wtf caused that?

[darin]

Seven non-military personnel killed.

[Robert A Whit]

It appears that the pilot flew at such a steep angle that the airplane stalled and of course fell out of the sky.

The attack angle on take off can't be that steep. Question is why did the pilot do that?

They are well trained on never exceed performance parameters.

747s are not intended to be flown as if they are rockets.

[aboutime]

Everyone who has ever flown in, or out of Bagrahm is accustomed to the near violent Diving, and circling on landings, and steeper than normal takeoffs due to enemy attacks at such close range. It appears the pilot stretched the known limits of his aircraft, couldn't reach max power...even with FULL FLAPS, and as someone else said....reached STALL speeds.
That aircraft weighs over a million pounds fully loaded with cargo, and fuel.
Basically. Anyone ever thrown a ROCK into the air and seen it FLY?
That's what we just saw.

[Robert A Whit]

Everyone who has ever flown in, or out of Bagrahm is accustomed to the near violent Diving, and circling on landings, and steeper than normal takeoffs due to enemy attacks at such close range. It appears the pilot stretched the known limits of his aircraft, couldn't reach max power...even with FULL FLAPS, and as someone else said....reached STALL speeds.
That aircraft weighs over a million pounds fully loaded with cargo, and fuel.
Basically. Anyone ever thrown a ROCK into the air and seen it FLY?
That's what we just saw.

NEVER do pilots put on FULL FLAPS to take off. Great way to crash.

If one is flying level, and puts on full flaps, the purpose is to slow down. Also, full flaps cause the airplane to lift a few feet up.

The take off was so steep that either the pilot tried to kill himself or something else happened, such as control failure.

[darin]

Waste of a thread

[jimnyc]

Waste of a thread

I moved the off topic stuff and banned the offending users. Thread can now resume. :salute:

[Little-Acorn]

I've heard reports of cargo inside breaking loose and shifting rearward in flight.

That's about the only thing I can think of (other than massive control malfunction) that could cause what's in this video.

The right wing dipping, than then coming back up, indicates that pilot probably still had control, at least of the rudder.

But if cargo had shifted badly, the pilot was a walking dead man at that point. Nothing he could do. Still, he apparently fought to the very last.

[darin]

Forgot the link for the narrative

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20130429-0