The doctor is in - tattoos

[jimnyc]

I've seen many, many people over the years make a lot of ignorant comments about those who have a tattoo or many tattoos. It's usually not an individual that someone perhaps bumped into, but rather comments towards those with tattoos in general. That means there are a lot of people out there who think they know people without knowing them.

So what do my tattoos say about me? Some likely don't even need to see them in order to pass judgment, as they have already made the general comments. Some might say more/less if they were to see them. But if THE tattoo itself says something about someone - then tell me about me?

And don't pat yourself on the back, 'ol Bobby, this isn't directed solely at you. :)

[Robert A Whit]

Jim

What tattoos have I spoke bad of?

How have I trashed any person over tattoos?

I made my position clear. It is the right of any human to do to their body as they wish.

I spoke at times of those tattoos women self describe as tramp stamps.

Why do you suppose women with those tattoos call them tramp stamps?

I suspect you know the porn stars. Can you name any that don't sport those tramp stamps?

[cadet]

I've seen many, many people over the years make a lot of ignorant comments about those who have a tattoo or many tattoos. It's usually not an individual that someone perhaps bumped into, but rather comments towards those with tattoos in general. That means there are a lot of people out there who think they know people without knowing them.

So what do my tattoos say about me? Some likely don't even need to see them in order to pass judgment, as they have already made the general comments. Some might say more/less if they were to see them. But if THE tattoo itself says something about someone - then tell me about me?

And don't pat yourself on the back, 'ol Bobby, this isn't directed solely at you. :)

My friend and his dad have GIANT tattoos all over.
My bud has (last I checked) a big one on his back, and one on his shoulder.
His father has full sleeves, and I'm not sure about anything else.
Now my friend, he's a little cocky SOB. Wrestler. His dad on the other hand, is the most calm and collected guy I've ever met, and he know's everything about anything mechanical/civil. Owns his own pool company, (puts them in). And last I saw him his motorcycle was completely ripped apart due to him upgrading it a little.

After I met my friends dad, I stopped judging people by tattoos. (Gauges on the other hand.... And face tattoos... freaky weird)

[jimnyc]

Jim

What tattoos have I spoke bad of?

How have I trashed any person over tattoos?

I made my position clear. It is the right of any human to do to their body as they wish.

I spoke at times of those tattoos women self describe as tramp stamps.

Why do you suppose women with those tattoos call them tramp stamps?

I suspect you know the porn stars. Can you name any that don't sport those tramp stamps?

None of that has anything to do with what I wrote or asked in the OP. Fail!

[jimnyc]

My friend and his dad have GIANT tattoos all over.
My bud has (last I checked) a big one on his back, and one on his shoulder.
His father has full sleeves, and I'm not sure about anything else.
Now my friend, he's a little cocky SOB. Wrestler. His dad on the other hand, is the most calm and collected guy I've ever met, and he know's everything about anything mechanical/civil. Owns his own pool company, (puts them in). And last I saw him his motorcycle was completely ripped apart due to him upgrading it a little.

After I met my friends dad, I stopped judging people by tattoos. (Gauges on the other hand.... And face tattoos... freaky weird)

I'm not fond of the gauges either. My nephew has them in his years and I've been trying to get him to remove them before its too late.

But yes, you found out first hand why we can't judge ALL tattoo wearers in the same manner.

[Marcus Aurelius]

The only difference between those of us with tattoos, and those without... is that we don't really care if you don't have a tattoo.

[cadet]

The only difference between those of us with tattoos, and those without... is that we don't really care if you don't have a tattoo.

Scar's are totally better though. They may not look as cool... But they come with better stories. ;)

[jimnyc]

The only difference between those of us with tattoos, and those without... is that we don't really care if you don't have a tattoo.

That's hilarious too, when some literally get offended by tattoos. Had a woman move her kids to the other side of her body AND move her pocket book to her other arm as well as she saw me walking towards them. They thought the tattoo guy was going to eat them, or maybe rob them?

[gabosaurus]

I'm not offended by tattoos. I merely don't find them attractive. My mom is dead set against them. My aunt believes they indicate "disreputable character."
Some workplaces will not hire people with visible tattoos. Just as they won't hire someone with unnatural hair color.
I do think tattoos look much better on men than women.

I don't mind a few tattoos that tell stories, or serve as visible reminders of past personal events.
But if your entire body is a tattoo showcase, or if you have a tattoo that covers your entire back or chest, that is where I draw the ugly line.
And if you have someone's name tattooed in large lettering on your neck, you have a problem.
IMHO, of course. :cool:

[Robert A Whit]

None of that has anything to do with what I wrote or asked in the OP. Fail!

Well Jim

At least it gave you the chance to try to mock.

[Robert A Whit]

I'm not offended by tattoos. I merely don't find them attractive. My mom is dead set against them. My aunt believes they indicate "disreputable character."
Some workplaces will not hire people with visible tattoos. Just as they won't hire someone with unnatural hair color.
I do think tattoos look much better on men than women.

I don't mind a few tattoos that tell stories, or serve as visible reminders of past personal events.
But if your entire body is a tattoo showcase, or if you have a tattoo that covers your entire back or chest, that is where I draw the ugly line.
And if you have someone's name tattooed in large lettering on your neck, you have a problem.
IMHO, of course. :cool:

I don't give a damn what they do to their own body. If they try to put one of those ugly things on my body, then I give a crap.

[Robert A Whit]

What the hell good is a tattoo?

[KitchenKitten99]

I grew up in a family where tats were pretty standard for everyone. My mom has a couple. She even offered to pay for my first one when I turned 18. Just back then I didn't know what I wanted. Didn't get my first one (technically my only one) til I was 26. Couple years later I added onto it and made it a bit bigger. My next one is planned but I have to wait until after May because of risk of infection since I am still only 6 weeks out post-surgery.

My sister has several tattoos, one of a shape of a heart made up of her initials and her two best friends' initials, and then she had our grandma's (mom's mom) and her dad's mom's signatures inked. She has one or two more but I can't remember what.


Mine is a phoenix. Many reasons why, mostly spiritual and metaphorical.
I believe I have posted these sometime before though.

Original:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/FuzzyKitten1999/tattoo.jpg


Updated:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/FuzzyKitten1999/tattoopic.jpg

[jimnyc]

I'm not offended by tattoos. I merely don't find them attractive. My mom is dead set against them. My aunt believes they indicate "disreputable character."
Some workplaces will not hire people with visible tattoos. Just as they won't hire someone with unnatural hair color.
I do think tattoos look much better on men than women.

I don't mind a few tattoos that tell stories, or serve as visible reminders of past personal events.
But if your entire body is a tattoo showcase, or if you have a tattoo that covers your entire back or chest, that is where I draw the ugly line.
And if you have someone's name tattooed in large lettering on your neck, you have a problem.
IMHO, of course. :cool:

Your aunt is the type of generalizing I speak of. A tattoo doesn't speak of ones character. I've seen quite a few military and police heroes with tattoos. What of their character speaks more, the tattoo or the heroic acts?

I posted an article in the other thread where tats emerged, the one in the cage. Sure, some places will still shy away from tattoos, but that's changing dramatically. Today you have lawyers, judges, doctors and beyond, all with tattoos. Not everyone walks around with a tank top on. I worked at a law firm and a major beverage company. Wearing your average dress shirt they are covered. But visible tattoos were seen at both places. But I do agree that some still frown upon it, mostly places where the business is based on appearance.

And yes, some like them and some don't. I don't mind if someone says it's not for them and they don't like them. To each their own. I get taken back a bit when someone thinks they can judge me based on me having one.

[jimnyc]

Well Jim

At least it gave you the chance to try to mock.

Just as my thread gave you a chance to make an off topic rant. :)


I don't give a damn what they do to their own body. If they try to put one of those ugly things on my body, then I give a crap.

Has there ever been an instance of a tattooist holding someone down and forcing them to get a tattoo? Most of the time, it's people without tattoos tossing out insults or talking about how they don't like them or how they look. Those with tattoos rarely go around demanding attention or discussion of them.


What the hell good is a tattoo?

Equal to not having one. What one values as 'good' or great, might be inconsequential to another. In other words, to each their own.

[jimnyc]

I grew up in a family where tats were pretty standard for everyone. My mom has a couple. She even offered to pay for my first one when I turned 18. Just back then I didn't know what I wanted. Didn't get my first one (technically my only one) til I was 26. Couple years later I added onto it and made it a bit bigger. My next one is planned but I have to wait until after May because of risk of infection since I am still only 6 weeks out post-surgery.

My sister has several tattoos, one of a shape of a heart made up of her initials and her two best friends' initials, and then she had our grandma's (mom's mom) and her dad's mom's signatures inked. She has one or two more but I can't remember what.


Mine is a phoenix. Many reasons why, mostly spiritual and metaphorical.
I believe I have posted these sometime before though.

Original:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/FuzzyKitten1999/tattoo.jpg


Updated:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/FuzzyKitten1999/tattoopic.jpg

That appears to be on your lower back, if I were to guess. As some may think, are you advertising for 'something' by placing it there? Just askin!

[KitchenKitten99]

That appears to be on your lower back, if I were to guess. As some may think, are you advertising for 'something' by placing it there? Just askin!

Yep. Tramp Stamp.

Only shown to either my husband, or in a swim suit. Unless I get chatting with a customer about tattoos and we start comparing.

I have no problems showing it if asked because it isn't provocative and it has meaning. 99% of the people I show it to ask me why I picked a phoenix.

[Robert A Whit]

I grew up in a family where tats were pretty standard for everyone. My mom has a couple. She even offered to pay for my first one when I turned 18. Just back then I didn't know what I wanted. Didn't get my first one (technically my only one) til I was 26. Couple years later I added onto it and made it a bit bigger. My next one is planned but I have to wait until after May because of risk of infection since I am still only 6 weeks out post-surgery.

My sister has several tattoos, one of a shape of a heart made up of her initials and her two best friends' initials, and then she had our grandma's (mom's mom) and her dad's mom's signatures inked. She has one or two more but I can't remember what.


Mine is a phoenix. Many reasons why, mostly spiritual and metaphorical.
I believe I have posted these sometime before though.

Original:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/FuzzyKitten1999/tattoo.jpg


Updated:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/FuzzyKitten1999/tattoopic.jpg

I don't get it. But as I keep saying, all humans in my world are free and as such are free to do to their body anything they want to do to it. If you tell me you cut off your fingers, it is your fingers.

Art to me is art that is intended to be exposed to the world. But many tattoos are not in the open.

[Robert A Whit]

Did somebody posting make a bad comment about your tattoos?

Who are you beefing with?

[jimnyc]

Did somebody posting make a bad comment about your tattoos?

Who are you beefing with?

I defend tattoos in general, when people make blanket statements about those who do have tattoos.

Now leave me alone, my cell phone is updating, I think its Jelly Bean!! :laugh:

[KitchenKitten99]

I don't get it. ...

I doubt you would.

And if you don't, rather than passing judgement, why not actually ask?

[Robert A Whit]

I doubt you would.

And if you don't, rather than passing judgement, why not actually ask?

Forgive me God for I knew not what I was doing.

I suppose those of you loving tattoos are simply better than the rest of us?

I will ask.

Why do women call them tramp stamps?

[KitchenKitten99]

Forgive me God for I knew not what I was doing.

I suppose those of you loving tattoos are simply better than the rest of us?

Dripping with semantics and sarcasm, with a hint of smugness, I don't partake in the baiting and assumptions such as you do, and wish me to acknowledge them with some sort of scathing remark.


I will ask.

Why do women call them tramp stamps?

More rhetoric and sarcasm from you rather than a genuine question about the meaning behind the choice I made, or anyone else who has a tattoo that is not a typical one you'd find on a female. Especially since the question you asked was one you could look up the meaning yourself and you are aware of this. Next please.

[Abbey Marie]

I've seen many, many people over the years make a lot of ignorant comments about those who have a tattoo or many tattoos. It's usually not an individual that someone perhaps bumped into, but rather comments towards those with tattoos in general. That means there are a lot of people out there who think they know people without knowing them.

So what do my tattoos say about me? Some likely don't even need to see them in order to pass judgment, as they have already made the general comments. Some might say more/less if they were to see them. But if THE tattoo itself says something about someone - then tell me about me?

And don't pat yourself on the back, 'ol Bobby, this isn't directed solely at you. :)

They say you like boobies, and are great in bed.

Am I right?

[Robert A Whit]

Dripping with semantics and sarcasm, with a hint of smugness, I don't partake in the baiting and assumptions such as you do, and wish me to acknowledge them with some sort of scathing remark.



More rhetoric and sarcasm from you rather than a genuine question about the meaning behind the choice I made, or anyone else who has a tattoo that is not a typical one you'd find on a female. Especially since the question you asked was one you could look up the meaning yourself and you are aware of this. Next please.

Uhh huhh, you get to judge me but I am never to do the same to you.

I honestly figured you would reply to the question.

Nest tattoo woman please ...

Same question, why do women call them tramp stamps?

[jimnyc]

Uhh huhh, you get to judge me but I am never to do the same to you.

I honestly figured you would reply to the question.

Nest tattoo woman please ...

Same question, why do women call them tramp stamps?

A lot of people refer to them by that name, because a lot of ignorant people judged every person who has a tattoo in that location as the same. I highly doubt every woman who has a lower back tattoo would consider themselves a "tramp". In fact, I would guess that would be the extreme minimum, and ignorant folks who make blanket statements.

[jimnyc]

I suppose those of you loving tattoos are simply better than the rest of us?

Unlike you, I don't think a person is better than anyone for having a tattoo, or for not having a tattoo.

[jimnyc]

They say you like boobies, and are great in bed.

Am I right?

Believe it or not, and although that is true, you wouldn't know it from my ink! You might get the distinct impression that I love my Mom, or my Pug. :)

[Abbey Marie]

Believe it or not, and although that is true, you wouldn't know it from my ink! You might get the distinct impression that I love my Mom, or my Pug. :)

I knew it!

Awww...

[WiccanLiberal]

My ink was all carefully considered over the course of years. My tats are only visible when I choose them to be, one right breast, one left shoulder, one lower back and one left ankle. All are completely covered in my day to day working life. I didn't get them to impress anyone else. I got each of them to commemorate or depict something significant about my life at the time. I was over 35 when I got my first ink and I am considering the fifth design for sometime in the near future, probably on my right hip and thigh. My great grandmother had a rose tattoo and pierced ears, a real dizzy flapper girl at the time. But no one else in my family has ever gone for the ink. And btw, the one on my lower back is NOT a tramp stamp, it is highly expensive custom artwork, designed at my request and therefore unique.

[Robert A Whit]

Unlike you, I don't think a person is better than anyone for having a tattoo, or for not having a tattoo.

What do you mean by that crack? Speak for you and I shall speak for myself. You sure got the wrong idea.

[Robert A Whit]

A lot of people refer to them by that name, because a lot of ignorant people judged every person who has a tattoo in that location as the same. I highly doubt every woman who has a lower back tattoo would consider themselves a "tramp". In fact, I would guess that would be the extreme minimum, and ignorant folks who make blanket statements.

I did not create that name so what you are saying is the women who used that name are lying?

[Robert A Whit]

If you are that good in bed Jim

Why do you say your wife turns you away from her bed?

[Robert A Whit]

Although historically in the West (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world) men have comprised the majority of tattoo recipients, in the early 1990s, the practice gained popularity among women.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-tct-1) In the early to mid-twentieth century, women with tattoos were heavily stigmatized, and were rarely found in middle-class (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle-class)society.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-fen-2) Lower-back tattoos were popularized in the early 2000s, in part owing to the influence of female celebrities, including Britney Spears (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britney_Spears), Christina Ricci (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Ricci), and Pamela Anderson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Anderson). The popularity of low-rise jeans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-rise_jeans) and crop tops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_top) may have also spurred the increase in lower-back tattoos.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-wsj-3) Another appeal of tattooing the lower back is that there is little fat there, lessening the chance that images will become misshapen over time.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-tva-4) Also, the lower back is often concealed, providing women the choice of when to reveal their tattoo.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-fen-2) Although some male celebrities have lower-back tattoos,[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-wsj-3) they are generally not worn by men.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-5)
[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lower-back_tattoo&action=edit&section=2)]Perception
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/TrampStamp-2810.jpg/220px-TrampStamp-2810.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TrampStamp-2810.jpg)
http://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.21wmf11/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TrampStamp-2810.jpg)
Young woman with a lower-back tattoo


Women's lower backs are often viewed by people as an erotic body part, leading to the association of lower-back tattoos with sexuality.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-fen-2) Lower-back tattoos are also perceived as an indication of promiscuity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promiscuity) by some, possibly owing to media portrayals of women with tattoos.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-green-6) A 2011 study of media stereotypes criticized media portrayals of lower-back tattoos, arguing that they are unfairly cast as a symbol of promiscuity.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-abl-7) There are a number of pejorative nicknames for lower-back tattoos, including "tramp stamp", "bulls-eye", and "target".[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-tct-1) A Saturday Night Live (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Live) sketch satirized the practice, describing a "rub-on" tattoo remover marketed at middle-age women who received lower-back tattoos while young.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-abl-7)

[jimnyc]

I did not create that name so what you are saying is the women who used that name are lying?

It wasn't women who created the term.

[jimnyc]

If you are that good in bed Jim

Why do you say your wife turns you away from her bed?

If I choose to mess around and discuss my family, that's my decision. If I ask for opinions or feedback, that is my decision. You don't get a say in EVER discussing my wife outside of where I bring it up. /end of story

[jimnyc]

Although historically in the West (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world) men have comprised the majority of tattoo recipients, in the early 1990s, the practice gained popularity among women.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-tct-1) In the early to mid-twentieth century, women with tattoos were heavily stigmatized, and were rarely found in middle-class (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle-class)society.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-fen-2) Lower-back tattoos were popularized in the early 2000s, in part owing to the influence of female celebrities, including Britney Spears (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britney_Spears), Christina Ricci (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Ricci), and Pamela Anderson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Anderson). The popularity of low-rise jeans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-rise_jeans) and crop tops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_top) may have also spurred the increase in lower-back tattoos.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-wsj-3) Another appeal of tattooing the lower back is that there is little fat there, lessening the chance that images will become misshapen over time.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-tva-4) Also, the lower back is often concealed, providing women the choice of when to reveal their tattoo.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-fen-2) Although some male celebrities have lower-back tattoos,[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-wsj-3) they are generally not worn by men.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-5)
[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lower-back_tattoo&action=edit&section=2)]Perception


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/TrampStamp-2810.jpg/220px-TrampStamp-2810.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TrampStamp-2810.jpg)
http://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.21wmf11/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TrampStamp-2810.jpg)
Young woman with a lower-back tattoo


Women's lower backs are often viewed by people as an erotic body part, leading to the association of lower-back tattoos with sexuality.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-fen-2) Lower-back tattoos are also perceived as an indication of promiscuity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promiscuity) by some, possibly owing to media portrayals of women with tattoos.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-green-6) A 2011 study of media stereotypes criticized media portrayals of lower-back tattoos, arguing that they are unfairly cast as a symbol of promiscuity.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-abl-7) There are a number of pejorative nicknames for lower-back tattoos, including "tramp stamp", "bulls-eye", and "target".[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-tct-1) A Saturday Night Live (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Live) sketch satirized the practice, describing a "rub-on" tattoo remover marketed at middle-age women who received lower-back tattoos while young.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower-back_tattoo#cite_note-abl-7)

Yes, notice that it is PERCEIVED by SOME. I'll point out the very next line - that a recent study shows that term is unfairly cast. You live within the perception that all those with tattoos fit into a mold, kind of like how you think all "negroes" are rapists. That's old time talk, times have changed and you haven't come up to speed.

[Robert A Whit]

If I choose to mess around and discuss my family, that's my decision. If I ask for opinions or feedback, that is my decision. You don't get a say in EVER discussing my wife outside of where I bring it up. /end of story

Stop being a prick. I only fed you back things you say openly. It was about claims you are good in bed anyway.

[Robert A Whit]

It wasn't women who created the term.

Well Wise guy, then who did?

[jimnyc]

Well Wise guy, then who did?

Ignorant people that assume just because a gal has a lower back tattoo, that she is somehow advertising for sex. Are you truly dense enough to think that girls got these tattoos, and then started calling themselves tramps? Why would anyone purposely degrade themselves?

[aboutime]

Now, do you see what I was talking about jimnyc?

[Robert A Whit]

Yes, notice that it is PERCEIVED by SOME. I'll point out the very next line - that a recent study shows that term is unfairly cast. You live within the perception that all those with tattoos fit into a mold, kind of like how you think all "negroes" are rapists. That's old time talk, times have changed and you haven't come up to speed.

You are being a bastard today. Yes and it says it was by the media. Don't blame me for this then.

Yes, the media sure did a job on me then according to you. I don't even claim all negroes are rapists. Jim, knock off the personal attacks.

[jimnyc]

Stop being a prick. I only fed you back things you say openly. It was about claims you are good in bed anyway.

Just let it go, Bobbo. It's not yours to "feed" to anyone. Like I said, just please let it go now.

[Robert A Whit]

Now do you see what I was talking about Jimnyc?

[jimnyc]

You are being a bastard today. Yes and it says it was by the media. Don't blame me for this then.

Yes, the media sure did a job on me then according to you. I don't even claim all negroes are rapists. Jim, knock off the personal attacks.

Yep, it was ignorant of any media that made such blanket portrayals and ignorant of people today to still talk such nonsense. Talking the facts is not a personal attack.

[Robert A Whit]

Ignorant people that assume just because a gal has a lower back tattoo, that she is somehow advertising for sex. Are you truly dense enough to think that girls got these tattoos, and then started calling themselves tramps? Why would anyone purposely degrade themselves?

Many women want that to be the definition too. Are you this dense to not understand that? Some do it because they love the notoriety.

[Robert A Whit]

Yep, it was ignorant of any media that made such blanket portrayals and ignorant of people today to still talk such nonsense. Talking the facts is not a personal attack.

You are slamming me. Knock that shit off. You are flat out lying about my positions.

[jimnyc]

Many women want that to be the definition too. Are you this dense to not understand that? Some do it because they love the notoriety.

Then feel free to make such claims to the women who say this, because it's insulting to make a blanket claim that includes women who don't feel this way.

[jimnyc]

You are slamming me. Knock that shit off. You are flat out lying about my positions.

Your garbage about women "advertising" and crap about negroes is not slamming you, it's literally quoting you is all.


When a woman sports tattoos, one assumes that she is not some squeaky clean church going gal who can be relied on. She puts it out there for a particular type of man to see as a flag to tell him, come get it. I have it honey and you come right over and get it from me. That is her message.

Isn't this your own quote, Bobby? Wasn't it YOU who said that women used these lower back tattoos as a "flag"? To tell men "come get it"? That she has "honey" and men should come and get it from them?

There's nothing for me to slam there, your ignorance does SO well without me saying anything.

[Kathianne]

Your garbage about women "advertising" and crap about negroes is not slamming you, it's literally quoting you is all.



Isn't this your own quote, Bobby? Wasn't it YOU who said that women used these lower back tattoos as a "flag"? To tell men "come get it"? That she has "honey" and men should come and get it from them?

There's nothing for me to slam there, your ignorance does SO well without me saying anything.

Jim, it's almost like you are saying his racist and a misogynist. Bobby could be? Nah, he'll slam you for saying such. Go hide, he'll find you anyways!

[Robert A Whit]

Your garbage about women "advertising" and crap about negroes is not slamming you, it's literally quoting you is all.



Isn't this your own quote, Bobby? Wasn't it YOU who said that women used these lower back tattoos as a "flag"? To tell men "come get it"? That she has "honey" and men should come and get it from them?

There's nothing for me to slam there, your ignorance does SO well without me saying anything.

Yes, but you are trying to use this as a weapon, a way to play smash mouth. You can't stand that I told the truth about the women who do as I claim for purposes I claim so you plan to fight. With my quote in context, clearly you know better than to presume I meant each and every woman sporting tramp stamps. The tramp stamp is not the ankle stamp anyway.

You always try to pretend you are not attacking but clearly this tattoo shit is all you can think about I pissed you off but that was up to you. I did not say this to piss off anybody.

Fuck, I even apologized several times. Stop attacking me bub.

[jimnyc]

Back to the topic, Robert, which believe it or not is not you! How about we either answer the questions posed in the OP or move along now.

[Robert A Whit]

Back to the topic, Robert, which believe it or not is not you! How about we either answer the questions posed in the OP or move along now.

And it is not about you. Thank you for stopping trashing me.

[jimnyc]

And it is not about you. Thank you for stopping trashing me.

Um, yes, it kinda is, dumbass. Who started this thread and posed the questions which are DIRECTLY about me?

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[Robert A Whit]

I am sick of these god damned attacks by Jim so I will show you all what the hell I mean.

Per Jim playing smash mouth ...

"When a woman sports tattoos, one assumes that she is not some squeaky clean church going gal who can be relied on. She puts it out there for a particular type of man to see as a flag to tell him, come get it. I have it honey and you come right over and get it from me. That is her message."

The above is merely an opinion. If one assumes wrong, so be it. This clearly was not designed to piss anybody off. It was generic. I was not speaking of any poster on this forum. I have no clue who has tattoos other than Jim and now Kitchen Kitty says so but I did only know of Jim.

The woman I am discussing does just what I claimed she does. This does not mean all women. Even women with no tattoos can be tramps. Clearly any person with common sense would have let this go long ago and stopped slamming me.

When I long ago apologized, that should have ended it. This crap I have to keep reading attacks on me is stupid and not needed.

[jimnyc]

Please, save your drama. You made your comments and I am speaking my mind about those comments. Don't pretend to be being "attacked".

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[Robert A Whit]

See post number 1 for the drama.

[jimnyc]

See post number 1 for the drama.

Ok, I hope you feel better now. And like I said, answer the questions posed and stay on topic, or move along.

[Robert A Whit]

Ok, I hope you feel better now. And like I said, answer the questions posed and stay on topic, or move along.

Had your widdle fweeings not got hurt, you would not have opened this thread to attack me.
Grow up Jim. Not everything is about you.

Are you a woman perhaps with a tramp stamp?

Will you end this habit of issuing orders?

You know, had it been me, I would have simply accepted the apology I issued early on and moved on. But hell no, not you.

[jimnyc]

I politely asked you to move on, Bobbo, now we will do so without your permission. :beer:

[Kathianne]

I politely asked you to move on, Bobbo, now we will do so without your permission. :beer:

One can always hope!

[aboutime]

Jimnyc. If you don't mind a suggestion here, based on this thread, and the one member who insists on NOT complying with you.

How bout. Instead of the CAGE. You create a "RUBBER ROOM"?

Then, as the administrator of this forum. YOU get to decide which members seem to be, or are...challenged like Jack Nicholson in his movie "One Flew Over the ..........Nest".

I didn't use the name intentionally since I would be accused of insulting, or picking on someone specifically.

[tailfins]

Back to the OP: I tell my kids that tattoos are a jailbird thing, then watch an episode of "Lockup" to illustrate the point.

[SassyLady]

I don't have any tats, but both my sisters were covered in them. My sister, who died, had photos of her grandchildren put on her arms. She also had a vine of roses that started at her ankles and twisted up around her body and was covered with flowers. After she got cancer, she had "CANCER SUCKS" tattooed on her neck where no one could miss it.

If I were to have a tattoo it would be where I could see it ... not on my back or shoulders. If it is pretty enough to permanently stain my skin, I want to look at it as often as possible. It would probably be a small hummingbird ... because I associate them with my mom and sister who have both died. I have a few hummingbirds that hang around my place year round and I like to think they are messengers from my mom and sister.

[Jeff]

I've seen many, many people over the years make a lot of ignorant comments about those who have a tattoo or many tattoos. It's usually not an individual that someone perhaps bumped into, but rather comments towards those with tattoos in general. That means there are a lot of people out there who think they know people without knowing them.

So what do my tattoos say about me? Some likely don't even need to see them in order to pass judgment, as they have already made the general comments. Some might say more/less if they were to see them. But if THE tattoo itself says something about someone - then tell me about me?

And don't pat yourself on the back, 'ol Bobby, this isn't directed solely at you. :)

Jim I believe in live and let live but Tattoos are for weak minded people , people get them trying to be a tuff guy and when I see a woman with one I know right off Trash and turn the other way immediately I mean seriously why do they call them Tramp stamps ? OOO well you get my point :laugh:

[Marcus Aurelius]

Colin Kaepernick has multiple tattoos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tattoos) on his arms, many of which contain Biblical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical) versesas a manifestation of his Christian belief (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_belief).

I doubt anyone messes with him about his tattoos.

[Marcus Aurelius]

Many women want that to be the definition too. Are you this dense to not understand that? Some do it because they love the notoriety.

You're speaking on those points from your personal experience as a woman?

[jimnyc]

Back to the OP: I tell my kids that tattoos are a jailbird thing, then watch an episode of "Lockup" to illustrate the point.

Why lie to them?

[jimnyc]

Jim I believe in live and let live but Tattoos are for weak minded people , people get them trying to be a tuff guy and when I see a woman with one I know right off Trash and turn the other way immediately I mean seriously why do they call them Tramp stamps ? OOO well you get my point :laugh:

Well, you do ride a bike, so maybe Bobby was onto something about you? LOL

But another point - Jeff here has a bunch of tattoos too. I know a handful of them are of his children and for Mom. EVEN IF he got them to show them off, which I know he didn't, would it be so bad to want to show off and be proud of such things?

[jimnyc]

I doubt anyone messes with him about his tattoos.

I posted an article about him. Let me see if I can find it...


Before we get into this, we'd like to apologize in advance, because we're about to give you a link to perhaps the worst article in the history of sports. You can tell you're in for trouble when you see this at the bottom of the piece David Whitley wrote for Sporting News/AOL Fanhouse about Colin Kaepernick's tattoos:

David Whitley's opinion is not reflective of the opinion of AOL, Inc.

That's the kind of disclaimer TV networks use when they're about to show you infomercials featuring products with extra asbestos. And Whitley's article, which went up on Thursday, is as asbestos-y as anything you'll ever read. A brief example:

San Francisco's Colin Kaepernick is going to be a big-time NFL quarterback. That must make the guys in San Quentin happy.

Approximately 98.7 percent of the inmates at California's state prison have tattoos. I don't know that as fact, but I've watched enough "Lockup" to know it's close to accurate.

I'm also pretty sure less than 1.3 percent of NFL quarterbacks have tattoos. There's a reason for that.

NFL quarterback is the ultimate position of influence and responsibility. He is the CEO of a high-profile organization, and you don't want your CEO to look like he just got paroled.

I'm not sure what Kaepernick's tattoos have to do with his present or future as a starting NFL quarterback, though everybody knows that Kaepernick has been very successful with a small sample size of two NFL starts with the San Francisco 49ers. So, perhaps Whitley was looking for a different angle, and he didn't have time for stuff like interviewing, homework, or film study.

But there are a few small issues with Whitley's take on things -- the entire idea that Kaepernick's ink somehow presages some sort of apocalypse for the 49ers franchise. And those issues were made clear when Rick and Teresa Kaepernick, Colin's adoptive parents, spoke with Robert Klemko of USA Today about Whitney's Internet drivel.

Perhaps the biggest problem, which Whitley could have figured out with five minutes of, y'know, work, is that many of Kaepernick's tattoos are actually Bible verses.

Whoops.

"It annoyed me," Teresa Kaepernick said. "You are categorizing this kid on something like tattoos? Really? Saying other guys are role models because they don't have them? Really? Some of these other guys don't have crystal clear reputations. That's how you're going to define this kid? It's pretty irritating, but it is what it is."

It's not just irritating. It's also irresponsible and stupid, but irritating is a good place to start. To me, the most annoying aspect of Whitley's piece is that he's clearly never met or talked to Kaepernick. I've done so a few times, starting with his week at the 2011 Senior Bowl, and it was pretty clear right away that he was an exceptional young man. Talented, respectful, hard-working, bright future. He's also done very well under Chris Ault and Jim Harbaugh, two of the most demanding coaches in any sport, at any level.

So, yeah -- let's talk about his body art. Nice going, Whitley.

"Instead of saying that Colin does all these great things and donates his time to children, this guy is going to make him out like a gangster," Rick Kaepernick said. "Really? I guess you just have to roll with the punches. Somebody asked me if I got mad about that. I said no. It's just a guy and his opinion. I could have an opinion about him, but I've never met the guy, so I don't know if my opinion would be right."

And that puts Rick Kaepernick several levels above David Whitley, to be sure. The most reprehensible part of Whitley's column comes in the second half, when the writer starts to display a subtle (and then not-so-subtle) racism when talking about tattoos in the NFL. Without it, the article is just harmless piffle. But when you get to stuff like this:

I realize not all NFL quarterbacks are pristine. Ben Roethlisberger has a "COURAGE" tattoo on the right side of his upper body. [Alex] Smith has one honoring his Serbian heritage. They can't be seen when the players put on their uniforms.

Then there are Michael Vick and Terrelle Pryor. Neither exactly fit the CEO image, unless your CEO has done a stretch in Leavenworth or has gotten Ohio State on probation over free tattoos.

That's what makes Kaepernick a threat to the stereotype. By all accounts, he's polite, hard working, humble and has never been to prison. He sounds more like a Tebow who can throw.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/colin-kaepernick-parents-annoyed-hack-article-son-tattoos-131113744--nfl.html

[jimnyc]

And funny that about Colin's tattoo's... Here is what Bobby stated about the women in that thread:


Women get those tramp stamps. It has to be a magnet for a lot of sex. That is why they do it.

[KitchenKitten99]

And funny that about Colin's tattoo's... Here is what Bobby stated about the women in that thread:

Oh yes because when I got my first one, it was to get more from my now-ex hubby... :thumb:

[Robert A Whit]

OK, if you ask if tramp stamps brand a woman as promiscuous, you get some hateful posts.

But watch this man defend them as benign then turn around and brand them as sexual and sensuous. I don't get it. Don't women have any education on what these forms of tattoos are known as? It to me is like the woman baring all of her breasts save the nipple trying to say she is not sending signals. Read this guys thinking. (I am not the author of the below so don't plan to blast me over the content. ) What he is saying is very clear. Women with those stamps know very well that the word is out on what they are called. It reminds me in a way of the guys with those Nazi symbols or KKK symbols saying they are only there for the beauty of them. LMAO

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But that doesn’t mean there isn’t any connection between lower back tattoos and sexuality. I believe that it's fair to say that women who get (and display) tattoos on the sensual lower curvature of their backs – instead of covering it with high waistbands and low shirts – are expressing sensuality and sexual confidence. And I say good for them!

Women have long been oppressed (http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/ARCHIV/oppress.htm) whenever they have attempted to assert themselves sexually. Showing a little lower back, with or without ink, is no different than showing skin on other sensual areas of the body. In the 1800s, a woman would be considered immodest if she showed her shoulders or legs. The shocking pinups of the early 20th century, featuring bathing beauties in swimsuits that are laughably modest today, were considered positively pornographic. Even in the mid-1900s, “good girls” never showed cleavage! Fortunately, times have changed and women are freer to show skin without raising as many eyebrows, but that doesn’t mean it never happens.

Attracting Attention
If you have a lower back tattoo, and if you choose to display it by wearing low-rise jeans or crop tops, you do have to accept the fact that you are going to attract attention. But there is no shame in that as long as you can handle it. Asserting yourself as a strong, independent, sexually confident woman means being able to carry yourself in a dignified manner despite negative reactions.

[jimnyc]

Where do the women that have these tattoos, who AREN'T wearing revealing clothing, where do they fit in? What you posted is all about displaying. Not every woman fits the mold you are portraying. And yes, then there are TONS of gals who probably do get them for some of the attention, when they go to the beach, or the gym. But even then, it doesn't mean they are advertising for sex. What about a woman who wears a 'necklace' around her waist, with a diamond on the chain near her belly button. Decorative and likely for some attention, or a display looking for sex? Unless a gal outright states it, I don't think we should ever assume they are looking for sex, tattoo or not.

[Robert A Whit]

How many of you take a look at those men with fuzz cuts and tattoos with Nazi tattoos and say, hell those are pretty and are art? When this guy tattoos a cop being shot, is that still art?

Can't any of you see tattoos as signals by those with the tattoos?

Some guy takes off his shirt and this huge confederate flag is tattooed on his back. Is that a signal?

Better yet, I purchased my confederate flag when in Virginia one time, do you claim that is a signal by me?

If so, how does that work since I ALSO own a very fine USA flag that flew on the sunken battleship Arizona at Pearl harbor and has a certificate of date and time it was on the mast?

I have had democrats screech at me that my confederate flag makes me a traitor. But tattoos mean nothing as signals?

Bear in mind, this is not all tattoos nor on all people.

Here is one more idea to explain the rest of the tattoos.

This may not apply to you if you have them.

Suppose the man or woman wants them for attention? They say, oh, mine are hidden. Well, hidden they don't do you much good, do they?

But a lot of people with tattoos do not hide them. And of course some are simple decoration such as a small flower on a womans ankle or wrist. I am not saying

I want this repeated

I am not saying I am in charge of anybody's tattoos. I don't think that way. I believe as I keep telling you who get hateful to me that what you do to your body is your business and I don't care. I just offer this for discussion.

[jimnyc]

Unless a gang tattoo, I don't see how they are "signals", but I can see how someone could fry their brain if they went around thinking such nonsense. :laugh:

[Robert A Whit]

Where do the women that have these tattoos, who AREN'T wearing revealing clothing, where do they fit in? What you posted is all about displaying. Not every woman fits the mold you are portraying. And yes, then there are TONS of gals who probably do get them for some of the attention, when they go to the beach, or the gym. But even then, it doesn't mean they are advertising for sex. What about a woman who wears a 'necklace' around her waist, with a diamond on the chain near her belly button. Decorative and likely for some attention, or a display looking for sex? Unless a gal outright states it, I don't think we should ever assume they are looking for sex, tattoo or not.

I spoke to but one tattoo. The tramp stamp. Sure, you are correct that some women are naive and don't know they get called tramp stamps. Wrong or right, that name is hung on those particular tattoos. I also put a post asking about men with all sorts of tattoos such as the Swastika. Are those signals? What about biker gangs. Do those guys use tattoos as signals?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Where do the women that have these tattoos, who AREN'T wearing revealing clothing, where do they fit in? What you posted is all about displaying. Not every woman fits the mold you are portraying. And yes, then there are TONS of gals who probably do get them for some of the attention, when they go to the beach, or the gym. But even then, it doesn't mean they are advertising for sex. What about a woman who wears a 'necklace' around her waist, with a diamond on the chain near her belly button. Decorative and likely for some attention, or a display looking for sex? Unless a gal outright states it, I don't think we should ever assume they are looking for sex, tattoo or not.

Hell, some of them outright state it and then refuse to deliver leaving a guy in the lurch. Happened to me once with a beautiful college girl that I picked up at a club. She whispered in my ear , take me home with you and I'll knock your socks off.
Imagine my damn disappointment when she only wanted to suck my toes!! --:boohoo:

I was ready to drill for oil in China and this fantasticly beautiful chick had a foot fetish.

Man, it was a nightmare that I've never forgotten. I've still been known to shed a tear or two about it. Simply because that gal could have posed for playboy!-Tyr

[Robert A Whit]

Unless a gang tattoo, I don't see how they are "signals", but I can see how someone could fry their brain if they went around thinking such nonsense. :laugh:

So, you see a man with the Swastika on him and all you see is art?

[Robert A Whit]

Hell, some of them outright state it and then refuse to deliver leaving a guy in the lurch. Happened to me once with a beautiful college girl that I picked up at a club. She whispered in my ear , take me home with you and I'll knock your socks off.
Imagine my damn disappointment when she only wanted to suck my toes!! --:boohoo:

I was ready to drill for oil in China and this fantasticly beautiful chick had a foot fetish.

Man, it was a nightmare that I've never forgotten. I've still been known to shed a tear or two about it. Simply because that gal could have posed for playboy!-Tyr

I bet the tune changes fast if it is some guy with tattoos that are well known for violence though.

Say he opens his shirt and shows you that confederate flag. I bet he gets called a racist. Even though it does not mean he is one.

[jimnyc]

I spoke to but one tattoo. The tramp stamp. Sure, you are correct that some women are naive and don't know they get called tramp stamps. Wrong or right, that name is hung on those particular tattoos. I also put a post asking about men with all sorts of tattoos such as the Swastika. Are those signals? What about biker gangs. Do those guys use tattoos as signals?

I just said that I thought gangs used them as such, or as ID, whether they be supremacist or biker gangs.

I think most women probably heard of the incorrect term, yes. I just don't think each woman who has one should be seen as advertising for sex, because some ignorant people prior made a term that has stuck. We have also heard consistently through the years that tattoos on guys were synonymous with drugs and motorcycles. This couldn't be farther from the truth today. The majority of people I know getting tattooed is for some sort of tribute to a loved one (child, Mom, Dad...).

[jimnyc]

So, you see a man with the Swastika on him and all you see is art?

Not an art that I would associate with. And likely this ink is on an ignorant person. But the tattoo doesn't make him Hitler either. Without more information, all we have is a guy with a tattoo that neither of us like.

[jimnyc]

I bet the tune changes fast if it is some guy with tattoos that are well known for violence though.

Say he opens his shirt and shows you that confederate flag. I bet he gets called a racist. Even though it does not mean he is one.

Tattoos have some sort of correlation with violence? I might believe that if we were posting this in prison, but we're not, and that's simply another generalization which has no basis in reality.

[Robert A Whit]

Tattoos have some sort of correlation with violence? I might believe that if we were posting this in prison, but we're not, and that's simply another generalization which has no basis in reality.

Sure, the man has his body covered in tattoos that show his approval, one assumes for the Nazi dogma, has a nearly shaved head and things like devils on his body and exposes them. He has a huge confederate flag.

But to you, he is just some nice dude one sees in church? I think that is pretty naive.

Men in prison also get released and some of them look like bill boards for Hitler.

But you won't pass judgement on them eh?

[Robert A Whit]

Not an art that I would associate with. And likely this ink is on an ignorant person. But the tattoo doesn't make him Hitler either. Without more information, all we have is a guy with a tattoo that neither of us like.

Why would you not like the tattoo?

[Robert A Whit]

I just said that I thought gangs used them as such, or as ID, whether they be supremacist or biker gangs.

I think most women probably heard of the incorrect term, yes. I just don't think each woman who has one should be seen as advertising for sex, because some ignorant people prior made a term that has stuck. We have also heard consistently through the years that tattoos on guys were synonymous with drugs and motorcycles. This couldn't be farther from the truth today. The majority of people I know getting tattooed is for some sort of tribute to a loved one (child, Mom, Dad...).

At least I pinned you down to the fact that you too pass judgment on tattoos. And surely you pass judgment when some guy has tattoos of men having sex with women on him?

I simply can't believe you are so naive as to think tattoos done on some people are not symbols of who they see themselves as.

I would suggest to any woman that if she likes tattoos, avoid the tramp stamp unless she plans to put out. She will have so many men hitting on her that her head will spin.

I can sure see a difference in some guy cloistered in some village type home in part of NY City vs the guys in CA.

I also think because of your tattoos, your bias automatically runs to siding with anybody with them. I do understand that sort of bias.

[KitchenKitten99]

Hey Jim, I am starting to think he's been hitting the moonshine (the wood alcohol version) a bit too much. Which would explain the brain-damage equivalent of logic he keeps spouting.

[Robert A Whit]

Hey Jim, I am starting to think he's been hitting the moonshine (the wood alcohol version) a bit too much. Which would explain the brain-damage equivalent of logic he keeps spouting.

Hey poster, do you plan to play the insulting game merely over a simple disagreement?

What makes you assume you know the state of the person making the posts given you resent any bias against any tattoo?

You answer then. A man you run into has tattoos of violence on him including Swastikas, KKK stuff and stuff one associates with racism. Do you naively think he sends no signals?

[hjmick]

Oy vey...

[aboutime]

I know, and realize this is very, very old. But, when it comes to tattoo's. Though I never have gotten one. Even as a career sailor in the military.
If I had gotten a tattoo. It would have been Two, very Large single letter's...."W" on each cheek of my butt.

And, after dropping my pants, bending over. It would read "W" o "W". Or..if I stood on my head...."M" o "M".

[gabosaurus]

My brother in law has several gang tattoos. They only message they send is that he used to be in a gang. He views them in a same way that military tattoos say that you used to be in the military.
No one says anything about my brother in law's tattoos because he is normally bigger than they are. :laugh:

[Robert A Whit]

Okay dokay

Then the next man you run across, sporting tattoos that are anti negro slogans, pro confederate slogans, sexual activity tattoos, bear in mind, the guy is just misunderstood and you ought to not notice he has swastikas all over him.

Tattoos mean nothing.

I rest my case.

End of story. No more please about Tattoos.

[jimnyc]

End of story. No more please about Tattoos.

You are in a thread, that I started, ABOUT tattoos. I suggest you simply don't reply in this thread if you don't want to discuss them.

[tailfins]

My brother in law has several gang tattoos. They only message they send is that he used to be in a gang. He views them in a same way that military tattoos say that you used to be in the military.
No one says anything about my brother in law's tattoos because he is normally bigger than they are. :laugh:


Of course you don't say anything; you just quietly discriminate against him. "I'll get back to you on your house rental application", after someone signs a lease you get back to him that someone else rented it. If that someone else has a better credit score/income/employment history/rental history you're covered under law.

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[Syrenn]

I've seen many, many people over the years make a lot of ignorant comments about those who have a tattoo or many tattoos. It's usually not an individual that someone perhaps bumped into, but rather comments towards those with tattoos in general. That means there are a lot of people out there who think they know people without knowing them.

So what do my tattoos say about me? Some likely don't even need to see them in order to pass judgment, as they have already made the general comments. Some might say more/less if they were to see them. But if THE tattoo itself says something about someone - then tell me about me?

And don't pat yourself on the back, 'ol Bobby, this isn't directed solely at you. :)


and what tattoos do you have?

[Jeff]

[QUOTE=jimnyc;625953]Well, you do ride a bike, so maybe Bobby was onto something about you? LOL

But another point - Jeff here has a bunch of tattoos too. I know a handful of them are of his children and for Mom. EVEN IF he got them to show them off, which I know he didn't, would it be so bad to want to show off and be proud of such things?[/QUOTE

That is exactly right Jim all of mine are of things that are very important to me, I started my collection with one for Dad I have all my Kids , my wife , and even a snake for my ex wife

Honestly anyone that can find the time to worry about another having tats must have a truly boring life and for those parents that are trying there hardest to steer there children from knowing the truth about them quit lying to your kids not all that have them are prisoners or prostitutes ( i bet yall preach honesty to those same kids) Tats have become a part of life for many and if you raise your child and He/she decides to get them are you going to dis own them ? If that is the case yall need to make them quit watching all sports well all TV for that matter because many of the people your kids idolize have Tats .

[logroller]

Well, you do ride a bike, so maybe Bobby was onto something about you? LOL

But another point - Jeff here has a bunch of tattoos too. I know a handful of them are of his children and for Mom. EVEN IF he got them to show them off, which I know he didn't, would it be so bad to want to show off and be proud of such things?

That is exactly right Jim all of mine are of things that are very important to me, I started my collection with one for Dad I have all my Kids , my wife , and even a snake for my ex wife

Honestly anyone that can find the time to worry about another having tats must have a truly boring life and for those parents that are trying there hardest to steer there children from knowing the truth about them quit lying to your kids not all that have them are prisoners or prostitutes ( i bet yall preach honesty to those same kids) Tats have become a part of life for many and if you raise your child and He/she decides to get them are you going to dis own them ? If that is the case yall need to make them quit watching all sports well all TV for that matter because many of the people your kids idolize have Tats .
I wonder if those same people who preach honesty teach there kids about the Easter bunny, Santa, the tooth fairy etc?
Or that sex is just for procreation; or holy matrimony is a bond until death? Or that drugs are bad...except the ones that aren't, of course?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I wonder if those same people who preach honesty teach there kids about the Easter bunny, Santa, the tooth fairy etc?
Or that sex is just for procreation; or holy matrimony is a bond until death? Or that drugs are bad...except the ones that aren't, of course?

You are of course correct about man's many failings. However one can not toss it all because man fails repeatedly even when he teaches to do right. Even when he strive with all his might to do right. Kids need to be taught those values despite the real world lessons of how it is going to be a lifelong work in progress.

I've known several people that clearly believe in strong moral values but have failed several times to temptation.
Yet they pick themselves up again and rededicate their life to trying all over again! Kids are going to see those failures, on that you are quite correct but they should also see the rededicating part too! Not picking one's self back up is the real tragedy and loss. I've seen that too, far too often...

I am sure you know all that already but your post was short and did not relate it.... -Tyr

[KitchenKitten99]

Hey poster, do you plan to play the insulting game merely over a simple disagreement?

What makes you assume you know the state of the person making the posts given you resent any bias against any tattoo?

You answer then. A man you run into has tattoos of violence on him including Swastikas, KKK stuff and stuff one associates with racism. Do you naively think he sends no signals?

Hey you started the insult game. Finally you got a taste of your own medicine.

Don't like the heat? GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN! Like Agent Jay says "Don't START nothin', won't BE nothin'!!"

You list SPECIFIC racially and bigot-motivated tattoos. You keep referring to that. Yet I have not seen you list examples of people who have an American flag, or a bald eagle, or even 'ink prints' of a baby's feet. Or like a very good friend of mine who has a drawing of a boat anchor with the name 'Serenity' on it, which is the name of his boat, which is called 'My Serenity', because of the Serenity prayer he abides by due to his being a recovering alcoholic and drug addict and is has been clean for 11 years, owned his own business for 10, and is so successful at it, he can afford a cabin cruiser twin-engine boat on the St. Croix river, along with owning the 'slip' the boat sits in.

Keep drinking the 'shine.

BTW, that referral was a spin-off from your own sig-line.

I am surprised natural selection hasn't dealt with you by now... and stop PM-ing me your whining. I will not dignify your ass-hattery with a response.

[aboutime]

[QUOTE=jimnyc;625953]Well, you do ride a bike, so maybe Bobby was onto something about you? LOL

But another point - Jeff here has a bunch of tattoos too. I know a handful of them are of his children and for Mom. EVEN IF he got them to show them off, which I know he didn't, would it be so bad to want to show off and be proud of such things?[/QUOTE

That is exactly right Jim all of mine are of things that are very important to me, I started my collection with one for Dad I have all my Kids , my wife , and even a snake for my ex wife

Honestly anyone that can find the time to worry about another having tats must have a truly boring life and for those parents that are trying there hardest to steer there children from knowing the truth about them quit lying to your kids not all that have them are prisoners or prostitutes ( i bet yall preach honesty to those same kids) Tats have become a part of life for many and if you raise your child and He/she decides to get them are you going to dis own them ? If that is the case yall need to make them quit watching all sports well all TV for that matter because many of the people your kids idolize have Tats .


Jeff. As most of us have learned throughout our long, or short time here on Earth. We always manage to run into people, or bump into people who must always stick their nose into other people's business, conversations, discussions, private lives...because they have some odd need to always be ONE UP, or BETTER than everyone else.
If you have experienced something that made you feel good.
You have probably met, or heard from someone who HAS A BETTER STORY than yours to make you feel good.
It's a never ending kind of human action that seems to cry for Attention. Even, sometimes, to the point of Fabrication of a story to always be One Step ahead, or better than everyone else.

This is called Human Folly. Everyone is just waiting to meet that one person who will always, somehow Be Impressed.

[Robert A Whit]

Hey you started the insult game. Finally you got a taste of your own medicine.

Nope, I did not post any insults against any of you. If you think you got Insulted, if you checked before attacking me, you would have seen my apology to any who was offended.

Don't like the heat? GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN! Like Agent Jay says "Don't START nothin', won't BE nothin'!!"

Normal people don't attack when the person has apologized, not once but more than once. But perhaps you are not normal. I dunno.

You list SPECIFIC racially and bigot-motivated tattoos. You keep referring to that.

I did not say I am seeing them, I asked about such tattoos of those who have seen them. Are you actually saying you never saw any of those?

Yet I have not seen you list examples of people who have an American flag, or a bald eagle, or even 'ink prints' of a baby's feet. Or like a very good friend of mine who has a drawing of a boat anchor with the name 'Serenity' on it, which is the name of his boat, which is called 'My Serenity', because of the Serenity prayer he abides by due to his being a recovering alcoholic and drug addict and is has been clean for 11 years, owned his own business for 10, and is so successful at it, he can afford a cabin cruiser twin-engine boat on the St. Croix river, along with owning the 'slip' the boat sits in.

Wonderful. I had also stated clearly that I personally have no problem with any person with Tattoos and made it crystal clear that it is your right or any persons right to do to their body as they wish. I asked about those types you named above to see if one can be non biased even when the tattoos does not please them. But you missed that point totally.

Keep drinking the 'shine.

Have I accused you of any bad habit? You act like i attacked you yet you can't show any posts proving that. Suddenly you showed up fighting mad.

To set the record straight since you insulted me two times over booze, I don't drink. Water, milk and coffee is my bad habit.

BTW, that referral was a spin-off from your own sig-line.

The comment is a joke and is attributed to a moonshine star on a tV program. I also included the quote attribute. Tickle says that on the TV program.

I am surprised natural selection hasn't dealt with you by now... and stop PM-ing me your whining. I will not dignify your ass-hattery with a response.

I sent you one notice to stop attacking me. Do not do it on this forum again. I don't attack you so until you see me attack you, and I will not attack you, do not attack me.

Why are you this rude?

[Robert A Whit]

[QUOTE=Jeff;626339]


Jeff. As most of us have learned throughout our long, or short time here on Earth. We always manage to run into people, or bump into people who must always stick their nose into other people's business, conversations, discussions, private lives...because they have some odd need to always be ONE UP, or BETTER than everyone else.
If you have experienced something that made you feel good.
You have probably met, or heard from someone who HAS A BETTER STORY than yours to make you feel good.
It's a never ending kind of human action that seems to cry for Attention. Even, sometimes, to the point of Fabrication of a story to always be One Step ahead, or better than everyone else.

This is called Human Folly. Everyone is just waiting to meet that one person who will always, somehow Be Impressed.

A better self description has never been written.

[Kathianne]

Hey you started the insult game. Finally you got a taste of your own medicine.

Don't like the heat? GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN! Like Agent Jay says "Don't START nothin', won't BE nothin'!!"

You list SPECIFIC racially and bigot-motivated tattoos. You keep referring to that. Yet I have not seen you list examples of people who have an American flag, or a bald eagle, or even 'ink prints' of a baby's feet. Or like a very good friend of mine who has a drawing of a boat anchor with the name 'Serenity' on it, which is the name of his boat, which is called 'My Serenity', because of the Serenity prayer he abides by due to his being a recovering alcoholic and drug addict and is has been clean for 11 years, owned his own business for 10, and is so successful at it, he can afford a cabin cruiser twin-engine boat on the St. Croix river, along with owning the 'slip' the boat sits in.

Keep drinking the 'shine.

BTW, that referral was a spin-off from your own sig-line.

I am surprised natural selection hasn't dealt with you by now... and stop PM-ing me your whining. I will not dignify your ass-hattery with a response.

Totally OT, but related to your response. Isn't it interesting that those with the worst post always head to pm's to explain themselves? When that fails, inevitably, they become abusive in pm's. Weird how that works.

[Robert A Whit]

Totally OT, but related to your response. Isn't it interesting that those with the worst post always head to pm's to explain themselves? When that fails, inevitably, they become abusive in pm's. Weird how that works.

Nobody abused the woman. Any abuse you read came from her fingers. I don't abuse posters on the forum or off.

i end up having to play self defense.

[Jeff]

I wonder if those same people who preach honesty teach there kids about the Easter bunny, Santa, the tooth fairy etc?
Or that sex is just for procreation; or holy matrimony is a bond until death? Or that drugs are bad...except the ones that aren't, of course?


log as far as the Easter bunny and such that isn't even a good argument yes I let all my kids believe in them and in time they where told the truth no harm in letting a child have dreams but telling a child only prisoners and prostitutes get Tats is just a lie and OK lets split hairs here ( I can see it heading that way ) my youngest is 10 and has known for a couple years now about the Santa fantasy as well as the others so do parents that tell the lie about Tats tell the kids the truth after so many years , that's why I feel you are comparing apples and oranges

AS for sex absolutely I teach my children it is suppose to be between married adults , do they listen is the real question , as for drugs again this is a no brainer for me of course I teach my kids they are wrong and again all I can do is stress the fact and hope they listen

[jimnyc]

I wonder if those same people who preach honesty teach there kids about the Easter bunny, Santa, the tooth fairy etc?
Or that sex is just for procreation; or holy matrimony is a bond until death? Or that drugs are bad...except the ones that aren't, of course?

We never did the Easter Bunny thing here, but I did growing up, but woman isn't a big fan. The boy believed in Santa & the gay tooth guy. All these things add a bit of "magic" to a childhood. That magic can last forever, if you allow it, so I don't see it as lying.

No sex talks yet but I would never preach just for procreation. I would teach that marriage should be once, and till 'death do us part' or however it's stated. That's what I would teach to strive for. I of course would also teach that divorce is possible should his wife stab him, perhaps. Based on my own background, drugs are a bad thing for the boys ears. I couldn't in good conscience teach my son that one is "maybe ok" and others aren't, so he's being taught that any drug, and anything illegal, is a no go. Call me hypocritical, I call it teaching from my own mistakes.

Did I pass? :laugh:

[Robert A Whit]

log as far as the Easter bunny and such that isn't even a good argument yes I let all my kids believe in them and in time they where told the truth no harm in letting a child have dreams but telling a child only prisoners and prostitutes get Tats is just a lie and OK lets split hairs here ( I can see it heading that way ) my youngest is 10 and has known for a couple years now about the Santa fantasy as well as the others so do parents that tell the lie about Tats tell the kids the truth after so many years , that's why I feel you are comparing apples and oranges

AS for sex absolutely I teach my children it is suppose to be between married adults , do they listen is the real question , as for drugs again this is a no brainer for me of course I teach my kids they are wrong and again all I can do is stress the fact and hope they listen


Kids are like we all are, they learn by having it repeated to them more than one time. A lot of us need to be told something a dozen times. Democrats are told dozens of times but they still don't get it. I had no problems with my children when they got over Santa Claus and things like easter egg hunts. Kids love fantasy to begin with. They will make up cute stories to each other.

It is part of growing up. If they feel you are not serious over Sex, and tell somebody you can't stop them, they will pick up on that and you may have an unwed daughter of 13 or 14. Parents owe it to their children to help them grow up, knowing stealing property is wrong, believing that lying is wrong and other issues are wrong. There is a decent age for them to have sex. I call it when they get married.

[KitchenKitten99]

Totally OT, but related to your response. Isn't it interesting that those with the worst post always head to pm's to explain themselves? When that fails, inevitably, they become abusive in pm's. Weird how that works.

Yeah I know. Sadly I have dealt with his kind quite a bit and honestly, he is very much like my husband's ex-wife. All of what you said above and doesn't know when to stop.

[KitchenKitten99]

Nobody abused the woman. Any abuse you read came from her fingers. I don't abuse posters on the forum or off.

i end up having to play self defense.

By whining a lot? Yep... definitely like DH's ex... you sure you're not from the Twin Cities, specifically near the Brooklyn Park area? :rolleyes: