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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-17-2013, 07:05 PM
http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_112.html

First false and silly one.-Tyr



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THE SKIES WITH 'WOVEN' ORBITS
"By heaven furnished with paths;" (Surat adh-Dhariyat, 7)The Arabic word "alhubuki," translated as "furnished with paths" in verse 7 of Surat adh-Dhariyat, comes from the verb "hubeke," meaning "to weave closely, to knit, to bind together." The use of this word in the verse is particularly wise and represents the current state of scientific knowledge in two aspects.

The first is this: (a)The orbits and paths in the universe are so dense and intertwined that they constitute intersecting paths, just like the threads in a piece of fabric. The Solar System we live in is made up of the Sun, the planets and their satellites and heavenly objects in constant motion such as meteors and comets. The Solar System moves through the galaxy known as the Milky Way, which contains 400 billion stars.1 (http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_112.html#_ftn1) It is estimated that there are billions of galaxies. (b)Celestial bodies and systems revolving at speeds of thousands of kilometers an hour move through space without colliding with one another.

The science of astronomy was developed with the aim of mapping the positions and courses of stars, while astro-mechanics was developed in order to determine these complex motions. Astronomers used to assume that orbits were perfectly spherical. The fact is, however, that heavenly bodies are known to follow mathematical shapes, such as spherical, elliptical, parabolic or hyperbolic orbits. Dr. Carlo Rovelli of the University of Pittsburgh says, "Our space in which we live is just this enormously complicated spin network."2 (http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_112.html#_ftn2)

(a)"The orbits and paths are so dense", lets start right there. Such ignorance. The distances in space are so great that using the word dense is absurd when applied to describing the orbits and paths in the universe. However dense can be applied to dwarf stars , neutron stars but not to orbits and paths! Of course galaxies move without colliding with each other (exceptions exist as some galaxies have collided) because the distances between galaxies are in the many tens or hundreds of thousands of lightyears apart!

Even with the modern discoveries these clowns get it wrong on the very first one. THEY ARE NOT SO DENSE AND THEY DO COLLIDE..-Tyr

GALAXIES COLLIDED..
http://cas.sdss.org/dr3/en/proj/basic/galaxies/collisions.asp

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=351

What happens when galaxies collide?

What would happen if two galaxies collided? Is it possible?
It is very common for galaxies to collide and interact with other galaxies. In fact, it is now believed that collisions and mergers between galaxies are one of the main elements that drive their evolution in time. Most galaxies probably had interactions with other galaxies since the time they formed.
A galaxy is made of roughly 100 billion stars. So you would think that in a head on collision between two galaxies, there would be countless collisions between those stars, right? The fact is that in such a collision, the probability of two stars colliding is almost 0. This is because even though there are an incredibly large number of stars in the galaxies, the density of stars is not very big since the galaxies are extremely big. In other words, the sizes of the stars are very small compared to the average distance between them. This means that if galaxies were made only of stars, and that two of them would go on a head on collision, they would pass one through another without being much affected!
This is however not what we observe when we look at galaxies interacting. The reason is that the space between stars in galaxies is not empty: it is full of gas and dust. This material will interact when the galaxies collide. It can interact gravitationally, the galaxies can pull on the material in the other galaxies and disrupt their morphologies. There is also friction between the gas in the colliding galaxies, causing shock waves that can trigger some star formation in the galaxies.
These processes can radically affect the galaxies. For example, two spiral galaxies can merge to form an elliptical galaxy.

Galaxy Collisions

Many galaxies are members of groups or clusters. Since groups and clusters contain so many galaxies relatively close together, it should not be surprising that galaxies sometimes collide with each other. In fact, the Milky Way Galaxy is colliding with the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy right now (see the SDSS First Discoveries (http://cas.sdss.org/dr3/en/sdss/discoveries/discoveries.asp#halos) for more information). Although galaxy collisions are common, stars in each galaxy are so far apart that collisions between stars are very rare.
Even if galaxies don't actually collide, though, they can still affect one another. When two galaxies pass close to one another, the force of gravity they exert on one another can cause both galaxies to bend out of shape. Both crashes and near misses between galaxies are referred to as "interactions."

Drummond
03-17-2013, 07:38 PM
I also don't see how the Quran can be reconciled with recent discoveries. Dark Matter, the EXPANSION of the Universe, the fact that, wherever you look in the Cosmos, you see galaxies moving ever more distant from each other ... this surely utterly defies any 'interweaving' suggestion .. ??

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/7521287/Hubble-telescope-shows-Universe-expansion-is-speeding-up-and-proves-Einsteins-theory.html


In the biggest survey ever conducted using the Hubble Space telescope, 446,000 galaxies were studied to see how matter was distributed throughout the universe and how quickly it had expanded.

And the astronomers found that the universe was growing faster and faster with time, as predicted by Einstein in his theory of general relativity.

Scientists claim that the universe is made up of three different components – normal matter, which is the physical objects in the universe such as the planets – dark matter, which is invisible matter that creates the gravitational pull that causes galaxies to form – and an unknown energy referred to as "dark energy", the force which causes the universe to expand.

Einstein's theory of general relativity claims that space and time are a geometrical structure which can be changed by the behaviour of the matter inside it.

So proof that the expansion of the universe is speeding up shows that the contents of the universe, such as the "dark energy" causing it to inflate, are influencing its structure.

Ludovic Van Waerbeke, of the Department of Physics and Astronomy at Leiden University in the Netherlands, said: "Our results confirmed that there is an unknown source of energy in the universe which is causing the cosmic expansion to speed up, stretching the dark matter further apart exactly as predicted by Einstein's theory.

"The data from our study are consistent with these predictions and show no deviation from Einstein's theories."Mr Van Waerbeke pioneered a technique to measure the invisible web of dark matter which was used in the study.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-18-2013, 05:55 PM
http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_111.html

Moses parting of the Red Sea was a tsunami...:laugh:--Tyr
Of course pervert boy never did any miracles so Moses has to be cut down to size..-:laugh:

Number two on their list...:laugh2:


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THE TSUNAMI EFFECT IN THE PROPHET MOSES (PBUH)'S
PARTING OF THE SEA
So We revealed to Moses, 'Strike the sea with your staff.' And it split in two, each part like a towering cliff. (Surat Ash-Shu'ara', 63)The Egyptian monarchs known as the pharaohs regarded themselves as divine in the polytheistic, superstitious religion of ancient Egypt. Allah sent the Prophet Moses (pbuh) as an envoy to the people of Egypt at a time when they preferred their own superstitious beliefs to the true faith and when they had enslaved the Israelites. However, despite the Prophet Moses (pbuh)'s invitation to the true faith, the ancient Egyptians and Pharaoh and his court in particular, refused to abandon their pagan beliefs. The Prophet Moses (pbuh) told Pharaoh and his court the things they ought to avoid and warned them of the wrath of Allah. But they rebelled and falsely accused the Prophet Moses (pbuh) of madness, sorcery and mendacity. Although various tribulations were inflicted on Pharaoh and his people, they still did not submit to Allah; they refused to accept Allah as the one and only God. They even held the Prophet Moses (pbuh) responsible for what had befallen them and sought to exile him from Egypt. At this, Allah told the Prophet Moses (pbuh) and those with him to leave where they were:

We revealed to Moses: 'Travel with Our slaves by night. You will certainly be pursued.' Pharaoh sent marshals into the cities: 'These people are a small group and we find them irritating and we constitute a vigilant majority.' We expelled them from gardens and springs, from treasures and a splendid situation. So it was! And We bequeathed them to the tribe of Israel. So they pursued them towards the east. (Surat Ash-Shu'ara', 52-60)

As revealed in the Qur'an, when the two peoples came together at the end of this chase, Allah rescued the Prophet Moses (pbuh) and the believers with him by parting the sea, while destroying Pharaoh and his people. Allah's assistance to the believers is revealed as follows in the Qur'an:

So We revealed to Moses, 'Strike the sea with your staff.' And it split in two, each part like a towering cliff. And We brought the others right up to it. We rescued Moses and all those who were with him. Then We drowned the rest. There is certainly a Sign in that yet most of them are not believers. Truly your Lord is the Almighty, the Most Merciful. (Surat Ash-Shu'ara', 63-68)

aboutime
03-18-2013, 06:15 PM
I also don't see how the Quran can be reconciled with recent discoveries. Dark Matter, the EXPANSION of the Universe, the fact that, wherever you look in the Cosmos, you see galaxies moving ever more distant from each other ... this surely utterly defies any 'interweaving' suggestion .. ??

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/7521287/Hubble-telescope-shows-Universe-expansion-is-speeding-up-and-proves-Einsteins-theory.html



Sir Drummond. Until the day I hear the same people step forward to say the same things about the Bible. There will never be a human being alive who can reconcile anything with the Quran.
After sixty-five years as a Christian who learned to ask questions about a book I was told, described the origin of the Earth in Seven Days. I will happily remain confident, proud, and in amazement of everything I was taught as a Christian...every time I look into the eyes of My five Grand children, and never Question the Miracle of their arrival here on Earth.

gabosaurus
03-18-2013, 06:18 PM
God said "I am the God of ALL people"
If He came back now, He would say "why are none of you fucking idiots listening to me?"

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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-18-2013, 06:49 PM
God said "I am the God of ALL people"
If He came back now, He would say "why are none of you fucking idiots listening to me?"

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^^^^^^ You take me off of your ignore list or just my threads?;)

Drummond
03-18-2013, 08:04 PM
God said "I am the God of ALL people"
If He came back now, He would say "why are none of you fucking idiots listening to me?"

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/did-i-fucking-stutter.jpg

You don't think that He instead might say .. 'By what right does Gabby use ME as an excuse to start swearing' ?

aboutime
03-18-2013, 08:09 PM
You don't think that He instead might say .. 'By what right does Gabby use ME as an excuse to start swearing' ?


Sir Drummond. A better question might be, and would be more fitting...
"What sickened mind, and challenged accident of humanity so easily demonstrates her love of stupidity?"

Drummond
03-18-2013, 08:25 PM
Sir Drummond. A better question might be, and would be more fitting...
"What sickened mind, and challenged accident of humanity so easily demonstrates her love of stupidity?":clap::clap:

Good one ...

Robert A Whit
03-18-2013, 08:48 PM
All I can say. I sure wish she did not post filth on the forum.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-18-2013, 10:39 PM
All I can say. I sure wish she did not post filth on the forum.

Surely you know that gabby cares not a whit about what you may wish. She gets her jollies spewing forth crap and then fleeing the scene.