Drummond - black pudding

[jimnyc]

Thought I would sneakily move the convo down here. I thought black pudding was like a dessert, so I looked it up - YEK!


Black pudding in the United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) and Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland) is generally made from pork blood and a relatively high proportion of oatmeal. In the past it was occasionally flavoured with pennyroyal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennyroyal), differing from continental European versions in its relatively limited range of ingredients and reliance on oatmeal and barley instead of onions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion) to absorb the blood.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pudding#cite_note-ocf104-3) It can be eaten uncooked, but is often grilled, fried or boiled in its skin.

In the United Kingdom, black pudding is considered a delicacy in the Black Country (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Country) and the North West (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_West_England), especially in Lancashire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancashire), in particular the towns of Bury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bury) and Ramsbottom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsbottom) home of The World Black Pudding Throwing Championships, where it is sometimes boiled and served with malt vinegar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malt_vinegar) out of paper wrapping. Stornoway, situated on the Isle of Lewis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Lewis), is renowned for its version of the sausage: Stornoway black puddings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stornoway_black_pudding) are considered by some to be the finest in the world.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pudding#cite_note-mrd-4) Black puddings are also served sliced and fried or grilled as part of a traditional full breakfast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_breakfast) throughout the UK and Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland), a tradition that followed British emigrants around the world and is now part of the local cuisine in New Zealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand) and the Canadian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian) provinces of Nova Scotia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_Scotia) and Newfoundland and Labrador (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_and_Labrador). The further addition of the similar white pudding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_pudding) is an important feature of the traditional Northumbrian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northumbrian), Scottish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_Scotland), Irish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_Ireland) and Newfoundland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_and_Labrador) breakfast. Black and white pudding, as well as a third variant red pudding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pudding) is served battered (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batter_%28cooking%29) at chip shops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_shop) in England and Scotland as an alternative to fish and chips (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_and_chips).

While the phrase "blood sausage" in English is understood in Britain, it is never used unless in the context of depicting foreign usage (e.g., in the story "The Name-Day" by Saki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saki)), or when describing similar blood-based sausages elsewhere in the world.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pudding#United_Kingdom_and_Ireland

[Robert A Whit]

Thought I would sneakily move the convo down here. I thought black pudding was like a dessert, so I looked it up - YEK!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pudding#United_Kingdom_and_Ireland

Never tried it myself. When you think of the blood in the meat you eat though .... hmmmmm

[Drummond]

Thought I would sneakily move the convo down here. I thought black pudding was like a dessert, so I looked it up - YEK!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pudding#United_Kingdom_and_Ireland

Yes. Quite. Absolutely delicious ! :banana: I'd recommend black pudding to anyone (except vegetarians, of course ..).

I saw the reference to black pudding as part of an English breakfast - and, true, traditionally it can be. Still, that goes back to olden days. More typically, that's not nearly as true today. That said ... the point about its being a regional dish is well made. It has Northern England connotations, in Lancashire, notably ...

Me, I'll eat anything for breakfast. If black pudding's available, then that's just fine ... it has a savoury taste, and is very filling.

Anyone suffering from iron-deficiency anaemia (or needs a B12 boost), and black pudding is LOADED with both, especially iron. Guaranteed to elevate blood levels of iron within a week or 2, if eaten daily ...

[Kathianne]

Yes. Quite. Absolutely delicious ! I'd recommend black pudding to anyone (except vegetarians, of course ..).

I saw the reference to black pudding as part of an English breakfast - and, true, traditionally it can be. Still, that goes back to olden days. More typically, that's not nearly as true today. That said ... the point about its being a regional dish is well made. It has Northern England connotations, in Lancashire, notably ...

Me, I'll eat anything for breakfast. If black pudding's available, then that's just fine ... it has a savoury taste, and is very filling.

Anyone suffering from iron-deficiency anaemia (or needs a B12 boost), and black pudding is LOADED with both, especially iron. Guaranteed to elevate blood levels of iron within a week or 2, if eaten daily ...

I'll take your word for it, but not be ingesting anytime soon. Now there are some areas where 'ignorance is bliss.' Remember how good McD's fries were years ago? Beef tallow in fry. They got rid of that, now the fries are worthless. We don't want to hear about blood, bones, or what's inside of bones!

[Drummond]

By the way, Jafar, if you're reading this .. have just checked this out for you ... sad news, I'm afraid ...

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060707150643AAuHCMe


No, Muslims cannot eat black pudding as it is made with pig and generally the pigs blood and oatmeal. Pig is never eaten by a Muslim they are forbade to eat it.

This may help to explain Muslim terrorism ? Muslims really miss out on the finer (at any rate, the tastier) things in life, it seems to me ...

... must revisit Tesco tomorrow .. I'm feeling peckish ...

[jimnyc]

Yes. Quite. Absolutely delicious ! :banana: I'd recommend black pudding to anyone (except vegetarians, of course ..).

That's what I thought when I first read it, your country mate there, Noir, and how much he would love this! :lol:

[Drummond]

I'll take your word for it, but not be ingesting anytime soon. Now there are some areas where 'ignorance is bliss.' Remember how good McD's fries were years ago? Beef tallow in fry. They got rid of that, now the fries are worthless. We don't want to hear about blood, bones, or what's inside of bones!

Oh, that's 'nothing' ... have you been learning about the UK's recent horsemeat scandal ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21038521


Investigations are under way to try to find out how beefburgers on sale in UK and Irish Republic supermarkets became contaminated with horsemeat.

Irish food safety officials, who carried out tests two months ago, said the products had been stocked by a number of chains including Tesco and Iceland stores in the UK.

They said there was no human health risk and the burgers had been removed.

Tesco said it was "working... to ensure it does not happen again".

The UK's Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) said it was working with the Food Standards Agency (FSA) to "urgently investigate" how the products came to contain horsemeat.

Contamination has proved to be widespread, unfortunately. Many 'ready made meals' have had to be removed from supermarket shelves. We've even had stories of discovery of horsemeat in school dinners.

It doesn't pose any health risk at all. However, it's a criminal story, partly because the meat content sometimes has proven to be not quite as advertised, partly because adding horsemeat means that far cheaper meat content is packaged as costlier beef, meaning that an unseen profit is made through criminal enterprise.

[Drummond]

That's what I thought when I first read it, your country mate there, Noir, and how much he would love this! :lol:

... yes. :cool:

Noir, care to comment ? Are you a black pudding fan (goes well with Guinness ...) ...

[Drummond]

Never tried it myself. When you think of the blood in the meat you eat though .... hmmmmm

Appearances aside (and the blood content is obvious, if the black pudding is undercooked) ... I don't give it much thought. There's a meat taste which predominates, though at the same time, I think the blood content adds noticeably to the 'bulkiness' of the dish.

What thought I am inclined to give it, is a positive one. Black pudding is very nutritious. Iron deficiencies, anyone ? Here is your cure ...

[Syrenn]

... yes. :cool:

Noir, care to comment ? Are you a black pudding fan (goes well with Guinness ...) ...

lol... i always keep a case of guinness on hand.... to cook with. :laugh:

[Syrenn]

You all need to be more adventurous in foods!!! close your eyes and just have a taste. Its no more horrible then say.... scraple



http://www.harkai.co.uk/Images/food/breakfast.jpg.



yes yes yes...i know, the tomato is missing!!!

[Syrenn]

Thought I would sneakily move the convo down here. I thought black pudding was like a dessert, so I looked it up - YEK!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pudding#United_Kingdom_and_Ireland


See.... ya learned something already!!!

[Drummond]

You all need to be more adventurous in foods!!! close your eyes and just have a taste. Its no more horrible then say.... scraple



http://www.harkai.co.uk/Images/food/breakfast.jpg.



yes yes yes...i know, the tomato is missing!!! :clap:

Aahh .. the perfect start to the day ....

[Syrenn]

LOL... i just still don't get the backed beans. Though i do also know to offer BBQ sauce with scrambled eggs certain of my guests.

[Drummond]

LOL... i just still don't get the backed beans. Though i do also know to offer BBQ sauce with scrambled eggs certain of my guests.

Oh, I think the baked beans are an excellent accompaniment (.. adding to the protein and fibre content of the dish ..). Besides, the tomato sauce they're soaked in, adds to most if not all of the flavour of every item of food the plate holds.

Consider it the perfect start to a working day. Travel arrangements may be wind-assisted .... :laugh:

[Syrenn]

Oh, I think the baked beans are an excellent accompaniment (.. adding to the protein and fibre content of the dish ..). Besides, the tomato sauce they're soaked in, adds to most if not all of the flavour of every item of food the plate holds.

Consider it the perfect start to a working day. Travel arrangements may be wind-assisted .... :laugh:


here is a good American one.... biscuits and sausage gravy. YUMMY!




http://craiggav.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/buscuitheader1.jpeg?w=640&h=392&crop=1

[Syrenn]

This is perfect for me though.... Eggs Benedict.




http://img.foodnetwork.com/FOOD/2011/08/02/LR0803H_eggs-benedict_s4x3_lg.jpg

[KitchenKitten99]

Never tried blood pudding but if I had it made properly for me, I'd try it.

I'll try most anything. ALMOST.

I stop at slugs and bugs, and most organ meat (but not all).

I am thoroughly convinced that Escargot eaten in today's French society is a joke played to get eager tourists to eat what amounts to 'survival food' under the guise of being a "delicacy", then laugh at them when they are not looking. Sure, maybe years and years ago, people ate snails because they sometimes had little else, snails were abundant and readily available.

The other things I refuse to eat are haggis (another survival food now touted as a delicacy-yeah, I am not falling for it) and lutefisk.

The people that live in the countries that invented lutefisk don't even eat it now with the exact reasoning I state, is they ate it because they had to due to no other way to preserve fish to last the winter months. They can't figure out why people here in MN continue to torture themselves with the idea that it is tradition and should be eaten yearly. Neither can I.

[Syrenn]

Never tried blood pudding but if I had it made properly for me, I'd try it.

I'll try most anything. ALMOST.

I stop at slugs and bugs, and most organ meat (but not all).

I am thoroughly convinced that Escargot eaten in today's French society is a joke played to get eager tourists to eat what amounts to 'survival food' under the guise of being a "delicacy", then laugh at them when they are not looking. Sure, maybe years and years ago, people ate snails because they sometimes had little else, snails were abundant and readily available.

The other things I refuse to eat are haggis (another survival food now touted as a delicacy-yeah, I am not falling for it) and lutefisk.

The people that live in the countries that invented lutefisk don't even eat it now with the exact reasoning I state, is they ate it because they had to due to no other way to preserve fish to last the winter months. They can't figure out why people here in MN continue to torture themselves with the idea that it is tradition and should be eaten yearly. Neither can I.

i love escargot! I had some the other night.

though i can see that it is also just a vehicle for butter and garlic. :laugh:


LOL.... lutefisk! *shivers* I agree, traditional foods are amusing. However some people do enjoy such foods.

[Noir]

Its just one of those baffling things that people like to eat =/

As for the iron/b12 present. You find much more iron in spinach, and much more b12 in a fortified oat breakfast with a grain based milk than you'll ever find in these blood puddings, and they're both easier for you're body to breakdown, and you're much less likely to fall ill from eating them.

[jimnyc]

Its just one of those baffling things that people like to eat =/

As for the iron/b12 present. You find much more iron in spinach, and much more b12 in a fortified oat breakfast with a grain based milk than you'll ever find in these blood puddings, and they're both easier for you're body to breakdown, and you're much less likely to fall ill from eating them.

Jon, were you always a vegetarian? And if not, prior, did you ever eat this "pudding" stuff? I'll try anything once, but that stuff looks nasty!

[Syrenn]

Jon, were you always a vegetarian? And if not, prior, did you ever eat this "pudding" stuff? I'll try anything once, but that stuff looks nasty!



Its not so much a "pudding" (in england that means cake) as it is a sausage like thing....

[KitchenKitten99]

i love escargot! I had some the other night.

though i can see that it is also just a vehicle for butter and garlic. :laugh:


LOL.... lutefisk! *shivers* I agree, traditional foods are amusing. However some people do enjoy such foods.

The way I see it is if the food is that great (such as snails) then why the need to douse it in butter and garlic (or any other sauce before you eat it)?

I know no one who enjoys lutefisk. Yet many in my state, especially the northern towns, have lutefisk nights at their churches during Christmas. They do this for some claim under tradition. I keep asking the ones I run into, if the countries that originated the whole lutefisk process refuse to eat it anymore, and are confused as to why we do here, then doesn't that tell you some traditions need to die?

What purpose is served to force-feed yourself what is essentially Fish-flavored Jell-o?

[Noir]

Jon, were you always a vegetarian? And if not, prior, did you ever eat this "pudding" stuff? I'll try anything once, but that stuff looks nasty!

Not until my teens. Amd I was offered it once and asked what it was, after hearing i declined.

[jimnyc]

Not until my teens. Amd I was offered it once and asked what it was, after hearing i declined.

We Americans still have the REAL "Spam" shit, which is probably worse! Ever see that crap?

[Syrenn]

The way I see it is if the food is that great (such as snails) then why the need to douse it in butter and garlic (or any other sauce before you eat it)?

I know no one who enjoys lutefisk. Yet many in my state, especially the northern towns, have lutefisk nights at their churches during Christmas. They do this for some claim under tradition. I keep asking the ones I run into, if the countries that originated the whole lutefisk process refuse to eat it anymore, and are confused as to why we do here, then doesn't that tell you some traditions need to die?

What purpose is served to force-feed yourself what is essentially Fish-flavored Jell-o?

Its hard to explain snails.... on their own they are very delicate. Have you ever had a whelk? They are similar in size and texture but not with a seafood flavor... I like them with the garlic and butter.... i sop it all up with bread.

Hardcore scanaidivian foods..... are just that... hardcore. (or at least in my opinion they are) Maybe its the fish version of fruitcake. lol.

the lye process thing with the lutefisk is so not appealing to me though.


Foods the we dont understand or like... are just foods we dont understand or like. Sauerkraut and kimchi are rotted cabbage. Any idea how they make soysauce? And what the fuck is up with balut... *eeewww* lol.

[Noir]

We Americans still have the REAL "Spam" shit, which is probably worse! Ever see that crap?

I think so, is that the stuff that comes in an odd tin where the tin opener ribbons around the side? What even is it in terms of meat?

[jimnyc]

I think so, is that the stuff that comes in an odd tin where the tin opener ribbons around the side? What even is it in terms of meat?

Yeah, pictured below. I have no idea what is in it, if meat at all. I will look up now...


Spam (shortened from spiced ham)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28food%29#cite_note-1) is a canned (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canning) precooked meat product made by the Hormel Foods Corporation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormel), first introduced in 1937. The labeled ingredients in the classic variety of Spam are chopped pork shoulder meat, with ham meat added, salt, water, modified potato starch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_starch) as a binder, and sodium nitrite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_nitrite) as a preservative. Spam's gelatinous glaze, or aspic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspic), forms from the cooling of meat stock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_%28food%29).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28food%29#cite_note-2)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28food%29


http://i.imgur.com/Gt14cVm.jpg

[Drummond]

This is perfect for me though.... Eggs Benedict.




http://img.foodnetwork.com/FOOD/2011/08/02/LR0803H_eggs-benedict_s4x3_lg.jpg


... ah ! Looks delicious ....

[Drummond]

Yeah, pictured below. I have no idea what is in it, if meat at all. I will look up now...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28food%29


http://i.imgur.com/Gt14cVm.jpg

Yes, Jim, we have that here as well. And sold under different brand names, too. It's been a while since I've eaten any, but if offered, I'd happily eat it ...

Remember, the 'Spam Song' was something dreamed up by Monty Python, who were, of course, British ..

[jimnyc]

Yes, Jim, we have that here as well. And sold under different brand names, too. It's been a while since I've eaten any, but if offered, I'd happily eat it ...

Remember, the 'Spam Song' was something dreamed up by Monty Python, who were, of course, British ..

I might like them deep fried, here's what the same page says about the UK and spam:


In the United Kingdom, Spam is often sliced, battered and deep-fried into 'Spam fritters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_fritter)'. It was common in the 1940s, during World War II, as a consequence of rationing and the Lend-Lease Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease_Act), when Hormel began to increase production for British and Russian markets.[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28food%29#cite_note-23)

After World War II, Newforge Foods, part of the Fitch Lovell group, was awarded the license to produce the product in the UK (doing so at its Gateacre factory, Liverpool (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool)),[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28food%29#cite_note-24) where it stayed until production switched to the Danish Crown Group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Crown_AmbA) (owners of the Tulip Food Company)[25] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28food%29#cite_note-25) in 1998, forcing the closure of the Liverpool factory and the loss of 140 jobs.[26] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28food%29#cite_note-26) By the early 1970s the name Spam was often misused to describe any tinned meat product containing pork, such as pork luncheon meat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luncheon_meat).
The image of Spam as a low cost meat product gave rise to the Scottish colloquial term "Spam valley" to describe certain affluent housing areas where residents appear to be wealthy but in reality may be living at poverty levels.[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28food%29#cite_note-27)



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[Drummond]

Its just one of those baffling things that people like to eat =/

As for the iron/b12 present. You find much more iron in spinach, and much more b12 in a fortified oat breakfast with a grain based milk than you'll ever find in these blood puddings, and they're both easier for you're body to breakdown, and you're much less likely to fall ill from eating them.

Noir, it's possible that you're correct about a lot of b12 being available in a fortified oat breakfast, with grain based milk, as you say .. but the key to this is in the word FORTIFIED. These foods have zero natural b12 levels, but, if sufficiently artificially fortified, OK, maybe so.

But, as for the iron content in spinach ..

http://findyourbalancehealth.com/2010/06/im-strong-to-the-finich-cause-i-eats-me-spinach/


In 1870, a German study proclaimed spinach to have as much iron as red meat. This would be good news for vegetarians, if it were true. A misplaced decimal point actually launched this leafy green vegetable into the limelight – and caused a few generations of confusion through Popeye the Sailor Man’s spinach-guzzling, muscle-bulging habit!

Turns out, spinach has only 1/10th of the iron claimed in that study. Too add insult to injury, we now know that high levels of oxalic acid keeps most of the iron in spinach from being absorbed into the body.

This is something I've known for many years. Noir, I hope you've not been relying on spinach for your iron requirements. Yes, it has SOME .. but the human body has enormous difficulty in extracting the iron. Mostly, it just passes right through the body.

Check out the link, though. There ARE good sources recommended there.

A tip ... try to eat foods with strong levels of vitamin C at the same time as your vegetarian iron-rich foods. Taking them simultaneously can boost absorbability at up to double the rate of otherwise (.. whereas if iron is absorbed from animal sources, vitamin C doesn't make a lot of difference).

[Drummond]

I might like them deep fried, here's what the same page says about the UK and spam:



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Thanks for that.

I've never tried it fried at all (.. I might ..). I just like it straight from the tin, as a sandwich filler.

That's if I can wean myself off of the black pudding first, though ....

[Drummond]

Not until my teens. Amd I was offered it once and asked what it was, after hearing i declined.

To each their own, Noir. But as someone who now probably eats more of it than he ever did in the past, my opinion is that you denied yourself a tasty treat.

Still, I mean no disrespect to vegetarianism. As I say, to each their own. Me, I'm into juicy steaks ....

[aboutime]

To each their own, Noir. But as someone who now probably eats more of it than he ever did in the past, my opinion is that you denied yourself a tasty treat.

Still, I mean no disrespect to vegetarianism. As I say, to each their own. Me, I'm into juicy steaks ....


Sir Drummond. I am married to an Irish lady, born in Donegal. I asked her about the 'black pudding'. Her response wasn't nice.
So. With all due respect. I'll just say. Different strokes for different folks, and leave it there.

As for SPAM. I have always liked SPAM. Grew up eating it in sandwiches as a teenager, then had quite a bit in the military.
It is good, from a frying pan, with eggs in the morning.
And it still makes a good sandwich.
Hawaii IS the biggest consumer of SPAM.
Sounds strange, but very true.

[Syrenn]

Spam is the national dish of Hawaii! More spam is eaten there per capita then anywhere else in the world. It became very popular during WWII and they never looked back. (not sure if that is in your link, i did not read it.)



however....... you may like it better like this.






http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RWWGsYqPumY/SGZvNvbWXGI/AAAAAAAAB1Q/DNdXaxKm8gg/s400/bacon%2Bspam.jpg

[Syrenn]

Thanks for that.

I've never tried it fried at all (.. I might ..). I just like it straight from the tin, as a sandwich filler.

That's if I can wean myself off of the black pudding first, though ....

scrambled eggs and spam.....
diced spam in pasta...
grilled and used for that eggs Benedict....


I compare it to a canned ham....

[Robert A Whit]

Sir Drummond. I am married to an Irish lady, born in Donegal. I asked her about the 'black pudding'. Her response wasn't nice.
So. With all due respect. I'll just say. Different strokes for different folks, and leave it there.

Always about you. Yadda yadda.

[Abbey Marie]

I absolutely love Eggs Benedict, but since I don't eat meat, I have it sans the ham/Canadian bacon. Yes, it's still delicious.



This is perfect for me though.... Eggs Benedict.




http://img.foodnetwork.com/FOOD/2011/08/02/LR0803H_eggs-benedict_s4x3_lg.jpg

[aboutime]

Always about you. Yadda yadda.


Guess you never get around to reading YOUR OWN POSTS Robert. The Yadda, yadda applies perfectly for you.

[Drummond]

scrambled eggs and spam.....
diced spam in pasta...
grilled and used for that eggs Benedict....


I compare it to a canned ham....

Another delicious suggestion. Thanks for these ideas ... :)

[Syrenn]

I absolutely love Eggs Benedict, but since I don't eat meat, I have it sans the ham/Canadian bacon. Yes, it's still delicious.


no meat at all?

well... how about a nice slice of tomato, some spinach or chopped asparagus? mmmm....caramelized onions would be great!


For me.... eggs benedict is not so much about the meat as it is the egg and hollandaise sauce.

[Abbey Marie]

no meat at all?

well... how about a nice slice of tomato, some spinach or chopped asparagus? mmmm....caramelized onions would be great!


For me.... eggs benedict is not so much about the meat as it is the egg and hollandaise sauce.

You obviously have excellent taste!
I have had it with spinach and with crabmeat and asparagus. It's all good.
Meat eaters can rarely imagine their dishes without it. I get it- I used to be one.

[Syrenn]

Another delicious suggestion. Thanks for these ideas ... :)


and so says spamith..... lol




http://www.spam.com/recipes

[Robert A Whit]

no meat at all?

well... how about a nice slice of tomato, some spinach or chopped asparagus? mmmm....caramelized onions would be great!


For me.... eggs benedict is not so much about the meat as it is the egg and hollandaise sauce.

I love that dish. I also love the sauce and the Canadian Bacon as well.

When I used to be a director of the CA Association of Realtor's, I stayed at the high end hotels. And of course one can get delightful Eggs Benedict there as well as some out of the world omelets.

[Syrenn]

You obviously have excellent taste!
I have had it with spinach and with crabmeat and asparagus. It's all good.
Meat eaters can rarely imagine their dishes without it. I get it- I used to be one.

damn.... now i want some. Eggs Benedict that is......


:cheers2:

[Abbey Marie]

Speaking of weird Brit dishes, I have tried Haggis in the past. Actually not bad.

[Abbey Marie]

damn.... now i want some. Eggs Benedict that is......


:cheers2:

:beer: Me too

[Syrenn]

I love that dish. I also love the sauce and the Canadian Bacon as well.

When I used to be a director of the CA Association of Realtor's, I stayed at the high end hotels. And of course one can get delightful Eggs Benedict there as well as some out of the world omelets.

the way i REALLY like it is....

on toasted baguette with prosciutto and duck eggs.

[jimnyc]

I just go to my local diner here and get pork roll and egg sandwiches, with ketchup/salt/ pepper of course!

[Drummond]

Sir Drummond. I am married to an Irish lady, born in Donegal. I asked her about the 'black pudding'. Her response wasn't nice.
So. With all due respect. I'll just say. Different strokes for different folks, and leave it there.

As for SPAM. I have always liked SPAM. Grew up eating it in sandwiches as a teenager, then had quite a bit in the military.
It is good, from a frying pan, with eggs in the morning.
And it still makes a good sandwich.
Hawaii IS the biggest consumer of SPAM.
Sounds strange, but very true.

I can see myself popping into Tesco tomorrow and buying up a few tins of spam.

As you say, different strokes for different folks. Still, I'm a bit surprised at the fairly negative responses to the idea of scoffing down generous helpings of black pudding. OK, it doesn't look 'great', I suppose, and maybe people balk at descriptions of what it's made from. But I can promise you that I think it's a superb meat dish. It's not my favourite, but neither is it far removed from those foods that are. People liking savoury meat tastes, I'd have thought would enjoy the taste of black pudding as well.

Noir seemed to suggest in a post the possibility of black pudding being in some way unhealthy to eat ? Well ... it's never given me any problems. I don't really see why it should give any to anyone, in nutritional terms.

[Syrenn]

:beer: Me too


now just for amusement value...i love one eyed Egyptians.....(what ive always called them) I make mine in "Texas toast"




http://pinchmysalt.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/egg-in-a-nest.jpg

[Abbey Marie]

I just go to my local diner here and get pork roll and egg sandwiches, with ketchup/salt/ pepper of course!

Reminds me of the time I went camping, and slept the night in a rain-soaked, collapsed tent. I was miserable, but was so looking forward to cooking some Taylor Pork Roll for breakfast. We saw a big bite taken out of our cooler (we were real novice campers) and the pork roll was gone. I think I cried!

[Abbey Marie]

Is that where you make a hole in the center of the bread? Looks yummy.


now just for amusement value...i love one eyed Egyptians.....(what ive always called them) I make mine in "Texas toast"




http://pinchmysalt.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/egg-in-a-nest.jpg

[jimnyc]

Reminds me of the time I went camping, and slept the night in a rain-soaked, collapsed tent. I was miserable, but was so looking forward to cooking some Taylor Pork Roll for breakfast. We saw a big bit taken out of our cooler (we were real novice campers) and the pork roll was gone. I think I cried!

Down south they never heard of the Taylor Pork Roll - but I grew up with it in Jersey and can't eat enough of the stuff! Even for dinner I'll just fry some up and put some cheese on it.

[Drummond]

Speaking of weird Brit dishes, I have tried Haggis in the past. Actually not bad.

.. ah ! Now haggis, I've never tried. Thanks for reminding me about it. I shall look out for it and maybe purchase some.

[Abbey Marie]

.. ah ! Now haggis, I've never tried. Thanks for reminding me about it. I shall look out for it and maybe purchase some.

It's kind of like American Scrapple- have you by chance tried that?

[jimnyc]

.. ah ! Now haggis, I've never tried. Thanks for reminding me about it. I shall look out for it and maybe purchase some.

NO, DON'T DO IT!! I just looked it up, and after SEEING it, I'm convinced it's not meant to be eaten! :lol:

http://i.imgur.com/wn9CDk7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/75QvFFi.jpg

[jimnyc]

It's kind of like American Scrapple- have you by chance tried that?

Oh no, I've been eating the best scrapple, when I go to Lancaster. That's the same as that nasty haggis stuff?

[Abbey Marie]

Down south they never heard of the Taylor Pork Roll - but I grew up with it in Jersey and can't eat enough of the stuff! Even for dinner I'll just fry some up and put some cheese on it.

I used to love it too!

Jersey is where we were camping- App trail near Delaware Water Gap. Pretty!

[Abbey Marie]

NO, DON'T DO IT!! I just looked it up, and after SEEING it, I'm convinced it's not meant to be eaten! :lol:

http://i.imgur.com/wn9CDk7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/75QvFFi.jpg


Yuk! It didn't look like that in the Brit Pub where I had it. Just a slice of meat that looked like Scrapple!

[Drummond]

By the way, am I correct in thinking that Americans don't choose to put meat in their pies, and convert them to meat-based foodstuffs ?

I've visited New York several times in past years, and looked around in the supermarkets and shops there. Apple pie, blueberry pie, cherry pie, all seemingly easy enough to get or to order. But, try as I might, I couldn't find any chicken and mushroom, minced beef, steak and kidney pies .... are these unknown in America ?

[jimnyc]

Yuk! It didn't look like that in the Brit Pub where I had it. Just a slice of meat that looked like Scrapple!

That's what I was thinking. Here's the scrapple I'm used to:

http://i.imgur.com/old4Spf.jpg

[jimnyc]

By the way, am I correct in thinking that Americans don't choose to put meat in their pies, and convert them to meat-based foodstuffs ?

I've visited New York several times in past years, and looked around in the supermarkets and shops there. Apple pie, blueberry pie, cherry pie, all seemingly easy enough to get or to order. But, try as I might, I couldn't find any chicken and mushroom, minced beef, steak and kidney pies .... are these unknown in America ?

You can, but you need to know where to go to get the good stuff. Most supermarkets won't carry it, unless you see "pot pies", which are also good, but best if homemade.

[Drummond]

Yuk! It didn't look like that in the Brit Pub where I had it. Just a slice of meat that looked like Scrapple!

Agreed. And I don't like the look of that, at all ....

[Robert A Whit]

the way i REALLY like it is....

on toasted baguette with prosciutto and duck eggs.

Very interesting. Now, where can one shop and locate duck eggs? Do they taste different than chicken eggs?

Do you prepare those dishes you discuss?

I have not made Hollandaise sauce but just now studied the recipe and plan to make some.

[Drummond]

You can, but you need to know where to go to get the good stuff. Most supermarkets won't carry it, unless you see "pot pies", which are also good, but best if homemade.

Thanks for that. I'd convinced myself that Americans view pies very differently to us British. Don't know when I'll next be visiting America, but I shall try harder to find them in future.

[Abbey Marie]

Agreed. And I don't like the look of that, at all ....

The Haggis or the Scrapple?

As for meat pies, we call them "Pot Pies" and chicken is very common. The usally also contain peas, carrots and onions.

[Drummond]

Very interesting. Now, where can one shop and locate duck eggs? Do they taste different than chicken eggs?

Do you prepare those dishes you discuss?

I have not made Hollandaise sauce but just now studied the recipe and plan to make some.

It's been years since I tasted a duck egg. From what I can remember, the taste is superficially the same, but a bit 'off' .. sort of ...

Maybe I'm remembering inaccurately, but I think that a duck egg has more of a sulphurous taste than a chicken egg. A 'heavier' taste, maybe. Still perfectly palatable, though.

[aboutime]

By the way, am I correct in thinking that Americans don't choose to put meat in their pies, and convert them to meat-based foodstuffs ?

I've visited New York several times in past years, and looked around in the supermarkets and shops there. Apple pie, blueberry pie, cherry pie, all seemingly easy enough to get or to order. But, try as I might, I couldn't find any chicken and mushroom, minced beef, steak and kidney pies .... are these unknown in America ?


Sir Drummond. Granted. We do have our strange eating habits. As for meat in pies. We have chicken, turkey, beef, lamb, and pork pot pies. Personally. One of my favorites I learned to create from my Irish, 93 year old Mother in Law (still alive) is ​"shepherds pie".
Cooked ground beef, or chicken, or turkey, make a cup of gravy, then placed in a large casserole bowl, mixed with your favorite veggies, little spices, then covered with mashed potatoes. Then placed in an oven, or microwave for ten minutes at 350 degrees.

[Syrenn]

Reminds me of the time I went camping, and slept the night in a rain-soaked, collapsed tent. I was miserable, but was so looking forward to cooking some Taylor Pork Roll for breakfast. We saw a big bite taken out of our cooler (we were real novice campers) and the pork roll was gone. I think I cried!

OMG.....i am on the hunt for that!

I love regional foods...and Taylor pork roll is ALL NJ! So far no luck finding it in NYC and i really don't want to order a whole one.

[Drummond]

The Haggis or the Scrapple?

As for meat pies, we call them "Pot Pies" and chicken is very common. The usally also contain peas, carrots and onions.

What I meant was that the picture looked, well, sort of disgusting. Not as I picture haggis.

Haggis that I've seen looks like a slab of meat. Not quite sliced, though I know it's often presented that way, as it obviously was when you were given it yourself. But still, I don't often see it. I'm sure it's far more commonly encountered in Scotland than where I am.

Thanks to both you and Jim in setting me straight about your version of meat pies. 'Pot pies' is an unfamiliar term to me. But I'll know what to ask for. Also, interesting to see that you combine vegetable food with it in the pie ... makes it more of a self-contained meal. Must be delicious, too.

[Syrenn]

By the way, am I correct in thinking that Americans don't choose to put meat in their pies, and convert them to meat-based foodstuffs ?

I've visited New York several times in past years, and looked around in the supermarkets and shops there. Apple pie, blueberry pie, cherry pie, all seemingly easy enough to get or to order. But, try as I might, I couldn't find any chicken and mushroom, minced beef, steak and kidney pies .... are these unknown in America ?


Americans are not so much about "meat pies" as the Brits and Aussies are. A good meat pie is something ive still not done.... but its on my bucket list of things to cook and cook and cook again until its perfect.

[Robert A Whit]

OMG.....i am on the hunt for that!

I love regional foods...and Taylor pork roll is ALL NJ! So far no luck finding it in NYC and i really don't want to order a whole one.

I also have not tried Taylor Pork Rolls either. It may be like Canadian bacon as to how it may sound like bacon yet not at all taste like what we get sliced as American bacon. I guess not all pork rolls are created equal.

Had I known of Taylor Pork rolls, when I was in NJ I sure would have tried some. I wonder if Whole foods carries it out our way or maybe Trader Joe's. I just don't get to either store often.

[Drummond]

Sir Drummond. Granted. We do have our strange eating habits. As for meat in pies. We have chicken, turkey, beef, lamb, and pork pot pies. Personally. One of my favorites I learned to create from my Irish, 93 year old Mother in Law (still alive) is ​"shepherds pie".
Cooked ground beef, or chicken, or turkey, make a cup of gravy, then placed in a large casserole bowl, mixed with your favorite veggies, little spices, then covered with mashed potatoes. Then placed in an oven, or microwave for ten minutes at 350 degrees.

Ah, yes, thanks ! I'd forgotten about that version of pie ! Yes, we have shepherds pie too, and it's fairly easy to obtain. Yes, we have that in common. Sounds just the same. Very tasty, and filling.

[Syrenn]

Very interesting. Now, where can one shop and locate duck eggs? Do they taste different than chicken eggs?

Do you prepare those dishes you discuss?

I have not made Hollandaise sauce but just now studied the recipe and plan to make some.

several places have duck eggs.... you just have to hunt for them. they are NOT cheap...about a buck each.

Rainbow Grocery in the city....and Berkley bowl.

Duck eggs are quite different then chicken eggs.... larger then jumbo chicken eggs, the whites are "whiter" and the yolk is darker orange yellow. They, in my opinion, have a more egg flavor then....eggs.

and yes, i make them :)


if you want to cheat with a fairly good product.... give knorr hollandaise sauce a try.

[Drummond]

Americans are not so much about "meat pies" as the Brits and Aussies are. A good meat pie is something ive still not done.... but its on my bucket list of things to cook and cook and cook again until its perfect.

I endorse that. Absolutely right, Syrenn. We may be familiar with dessert pies like apple pies and the like, but for us, first and foremost, a pie is something filled with a form of meat.

That's why I still remember my surprise when I failed to find them in the stores I looked around in Manhattan.

[Syrenn]

The Haggis or the Scrapple?

As for meat pies, we call them "Pot Pies" and chicken is very common. The usally also contain peas, carrots and onions.


not quite....

what we call "pot pie" is nothing what a meat pie is in england


http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/4916/images/4916_MEDIUM.jpghttp://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/2177654/images/2177654_MEDIUM.jpg

[Syrenn]

I also have not tried Taylor Pork Rolls either. It may be like Canadian bacon as to how it may sound like bacon yet not at all taste like what we get sliced as American bacon. I guess not all pork rolls are created equal.

Had I known of Taylor Pork rolls, when I was in NJ I sure would have tried some. I wonder if Whole foods carries it out our way or maybe Trader Joe's. I just don't get to either store often.

nope.... whole foods and trader joes do not carry it.... it is very regional....and very specific to NJ. Which is why i have considered just ordering a whole one.

[Drummond]

Down south they never heard of the Taylor Pork Roll - but I grew up with it in Jersey and can't eat enough of the stuff! Even for dinner I'll just fry some up and put some cheese on it.

I don't think we have across the Pond, either .. doesn't ring a bell ... pork rolls, sure, but not a 'Taylor' pork roll.

[Syrenn]

I don't think we have across the Pond, either .. doesn't ring a bell ... pork rolls, sure, but not a 'Taylor' pork roll.



think bologna...

[Drummond]

not quite....

what we call "pot pie" is nothing what a meat pie is in england


http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/4916/images/4916_MEDIUM.jpghttp://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/2177654/images/2177654_MEDIUM.jpg

Ah, now, THIS, I know. Easy enough to get. We call them Scotch Egg Pies. Looks just the same, but obviously carries a different name over here .. see ...

http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1853656/scotch-egg-pie

[jimnyc]

http://jerseyporkroll.com/

[Abbey Marie]

nope.... whole foods and trader joes do not carry it.... it is very regional....and very specific to NJ. Which is why i have considered just ordering a whole one.

I doubt this will help anyone much, but our local supermarket in Delaware carries it, too.

[Abbey Marie]

Ah, now, THIS, I know. Easy enough to get. We call them Scotch Egg Pies. Looks just the same, but obviously carries a different name over here .. see ...

http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1853656/scotch-egg-pie

Is that what your typical meat pie looks like?

[Syrenn]

I doubt this will help anyone much, but our local supermarket in Delaware carries it, too.:slap:

I hate you!

























:laugh:

[Syrenn]

Is that what your typical meat pie looks like?


some have eggs...and some dont. But yes... that is the texture of what is considered a meat pie. Very different from our "pot pies"

[Abbey Marie]

:slap:

I hate you!
:laugh:

Lol, don't hate me, I don't even eat it! :laugh2:

[Syrenn]

Lol, don't hate me, I don't even eat it! :laugh2:


something i LOVE doing when i travel is to go to the markets..... it amuses me to see what is carried in different places around the country.

For example...you will never find scrapper here on the west coast as you will in the groceries on the east coast.

[Abbey Marie]

something i LOVE doing when i travel is to go to the markets..... it amuses me to see what is carried in different places around the country.

For example...you will never find scrapper here on the west coast as you will in the groceries on the east coast.

That's probably a good thing. ;)

[Syrenn]

That's probably a good thing. ;)

sheesh...


scrapple... not scrapper....

damn spell check!


:rolleyes:

[Abbey Marie]

sheesh...


scrapple... not scrapper....

damn spell check!


:rolleyes:

I knew what you meant. :salute:

[KitchenKitten99]

Very interesting. Now, where can one shop and locate duck eggs? Do they taste different than chicken eggs?

Do you prepare those dishes you discuss?

I have not made Hollandaise sauce but just now studied the recipe and plan to make some.

Duck eggs are easiest obtained via Oriental markets. At least for me in MN, that's the best place to go. Yes, they are expensive because laying habits of ducks are different than chickens.

They taste rich due to the high fat % content. BUT... fat=flavor. Beware when baking and cooking (i.e. hollandaise) because it will make everything very rich. Ensure frequent taste-testing when possible, and you may need to eliminate other fat ingredients such as butter or oils... and 1 duck egg is probably equal to 2-3 chicken eggs for volume. I once made homemade buttermilk pancakes with duck eggs... OMG...pancakes from heaven! They make for very tasty omelets without adding any butter.


NO, DON'T DO IT!! I just looked it up, and after SEEING it, I'm convinced it's not meant to be eaten!

Just as I mentioned, it was survival food. Why anyone would eat this now when there are supermarkets and government food programs to help you avoid doing this to yourself?


the way i REALLY like it is....

on toasted baguette with prosciutto and duck eggs.

OMG, sounds divine!!!


Its hard to explain snails.... on their own they are very delicate. Have you ever had a whelk? They are similar in size and texture but not with a seafood flavor... I like them with the garlic and butter.... i sop it all up with bread.

Hardcore scanaidivian foods..... are just that... hardcore. (or at least in my opinion they are) Maybe its the fish version of fruitcake. lol.

the lye process thing with the lutefisk is so not appealing to me though.


Foods the we dont understand or like... are just foods we dont understand or like. Sauerkraut and kimchi are rotted cabbage. Any idea how they make soysauce? And what the fuck is up with balut... *eeewww* lol. I am a rare Minnesotan who cannot stand sauerkraut. Again to me that is 'survival food' not intended for 21st century diets.

Fruitcake, when made the way my friend Cara makes it, is actually pretty good with a cup of egg nog or a rich coffee.

And I still refuse to eat what are really just slugs with shells. Never had whelk, I don't think I can get it here. Not big on seafood unless I either catch it and/or prepare it myself (such as picking up ahi tuna steaks or salmon steaks from Costco & grilling them), or I go to places that specialize in it such as SeaChange by Tim McKee, McCormick & Schmick's, or Oceanaire. Red Lobster is turning around to be pretty good now they have re-vamped their menu and style.

[Syrenn]

Duck eggs are easiest obtained via Oriental markets. At least for me in MN, that's the best place to go. Yes, they are expensive because laying habits of ducks are different than chickens.

They taste rich due to the high fat % content. BUT... fat=flavor. Beware when baking and cooking (i.e. hollandaise) because it will make everything very rich. Ensure frequent taste-testing when possible, and you may need to eliminate other fat ingredients such as butter or oils... and 1 duck egg is probably equal to 2-3 chicken eggs for volume. I once made homemade buttermilk pancakes with duck eggs... OMG...pancakes from heaven! They make for very tasty omelets without adding any butter.



Just as I mentioned, it was survival food. Why anyone would eat this now when there are supermarkets and government food programs to help you avoid doing this to yourself?



OMG, sounds divine!!!

I am a rare Minnesotan who cannot stand sauerkraut. Again to me that is 'survival food' not intended for 21st century diets.

Fruitcake, when made the way my friend Cara makes it, is actually pretty good with a cup of egg nog or a rich coffee.

And I still refuse to eat what are really just slugs with shells. Never had whelk, I don't think I can get it here. Not big on seafood unless I either catch it and/or prepare it myself (such as picking up ahi tuna steaks or salmon steaks from Costco & grilling them), or I go to places that specialize in it such as SeaChange by Tim McKee, McCormick & Schmick's, or Oceanaire. Red Lobster is turning around to be pretty good now they have re-vamped their menu and style.

I am not a fan of sauerkraut either..... It was just never a flavor profile i liked... so i hear ya.

so what is it about your friends cara's fruitcake that is different?

[aboutime]

OMG.....i am on the hunt for that!

I love regional foods...and Taylor pork roll is ALL NJ! So far no luck finding it in NYC and i really don't want to order a whole one.


Being a Pennsylvania boy from Pennsylvania Dutch country (almost). I now remember how much I loved Taylor Pork Roll too! But the best breakfast meat my family always had was SCRAPPLE. Habbersettes in Philadelphia (Not sure of the spelling). But Scrapple, fried in a black, steel frying pan just can't be beat.
Great memories. Thanks for the Mouthwatering Exercises from ALL.

[KitchenKitten99]

so what is it about your friends cara's fruitcake that is different?

Ingredients and method of preparation. Her secrets are unknown beyond that. :p

All I know is she made it for our cigar club Christmas party last year and it didn't last long on the table.

[Robert A Whit]

Anybody wanting Taylor Pork Roll can have it sent to them and order it on the internet.

I read up on this product.

It is about 8 bucks a pound at one site. You can get 4 rolls @1.5 LB ea for about $48.

I am going off memory so the numbers per pound are not exact.

[Syrenn]

Ingredients and method of preparation. Her secrets are unknown beyond that. :p

All I know is she made it for our cigar club Christmas party last year and it didn't last long on the table.

well... hopefully she does write it down so her children will have it. It is a terrible shame when people take family recipes to the grave.

My BIL.... his mother would make him special orange cookies when growing up because he was allergic to just about everything.... she gave the recipe to the daughter who will NOT share it with him. She now has non hodgkins lymphoma... and it does not look good.

And she will still not share the recipe with him. Very sad.

[aboutime]

Anybody wanting Taylor Pork Roll can have it sent to them and order it on the internet.

I read up on this product.

It is about 8 bucks a pound at one site. You can get 4 rolls @1.5 LB ea for about $48.

I am going off memory so the numbers per pound are not exact.


It sells for 2.49 locally in a Food Lion, and also in Farm Fresh. In the meat department with the Jimmie Dean Bacon, and Sausages.

[jimnyc]

Anybody wanting Taylor Pork Roll can have it sent to them and order it on the internet.

I read up on this product.

It is about 8 bucks a pound at one site. You can get 4 rolls @1.5 LB ea for about $48.

I am going off memory so the numbers per pound are not exact.


http://jerseyporkroll.com/

You can also buy Lebanon Bologna online too! (bologna that is more like a salami, from "Bird in Hand" Pennsylvania, not far from Lancaster.

[Robert A Whit]

You can also buy Lebanon Bologna online too! (bologna that is more like a salami, from "Bird in Hand" Pennsylvania, not far from Lancaster.

The link you posted is the first site I examined. Another site sells Case and also Taylor.

Case is cheaper. Is it as good as Taylor?

Case is a brand. Also made in NJ

[jimnyc]

The link you posted is the first site I examined. Another site sells Case and also Taylor.

Case is cheaper. Is it as good as Taylor?

Case is a brand. Also made in NJ

Taylor is ultimately from "Taylor Provisions" but you can't get it direct, only through restaurants and select supermarkets. And now online. None of the others compare, IMO.

[Robert A Whit]

Taylor is ultimately from "Taylor Provisions" but you can't get it direct, only through restaurants and select supermarkets. And now online. None of the others compare, IMO.

Thanks for the recommendation. Now, do you want me to show you more boobies? as a reward!!!

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Anybody wanting Taylor Pork Roll can have it sent to them and order it on the internet.

I read up on this product.

It is about 8 bucks a pound at one site. You can get 4 rolls @1.5 LB ea for about $48.

I am going off memory so the numbers per pound are not exact.

Robert, I like your new avi. :beer:
Robert Taylor was one of my favorite actors. I never saw him in a role that wasn't playing excellently. Always preferred his Western roles myself. The women thought he was the cat's meow , the lucky devil...-Tyr

[KitchenKitten99]

well... hopefully she does write it down so her children will have it. It is a terrible shame when people take family recipes to the grave.

My BIL.... his mother would make him special orange cookies when growing up because he was allergic to just about everything.... she gave the recipe to the daughter who will NOT share it with him. She now has non hodgkins lymphoma... and it does not look good.

And she will still not share the recipe with him. Very sad.

Sadly, she does not have children. Suffered several miscarriages before relenting to the fact she couldn't carry past 4th term. She's almost 50 and she and her husband have two fur-babies, a dachshund and a tabby cat, and they are content with that.

Not that she refuses to ever share it, as it is all written down. Just not right now, because she likes the 'job security' with the only one knowing it for the moment.

[Abbey Marie]

Robert, I like your new avi. :beer:
Robert Taylor was one of my favorite actors. I never saw him in a role that wasn't playing excellently. Always preferred his Western roles myself. The women thought he was the cat's meow , the lucky devil...-Tyr

Methinks Robert found his pic when he was researching Taylor Pork Roll. ;)

[Robert A Whit]

http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?p=621242#post621242)
Robert, I like your new avi. :beer:
Robert Taylor was one of my favorite actors. I never saw him in a role that wasn't playing excellently. Always preferred his Western roles myself. The women thought he was the cat's meow , the lucky devil...-Tyr







Methinks Robert found his pic when he was researching Taylor Pork Roll. ;)

Mother told me she named me after the man. Nope, Pork had nothing to do with it.