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tailfins
02-22-2013, 12:23 PM
Note: Rothenberg is NOT a Democrat shill.
Rothenberg: Democrats' Economic Narrative Still Trumps GOP's
http://www.rollcall.com/news/rothenberg_democrats_economic_narrative_still_trum ps_gops-222560-1.html
Thunderknuckles
02-22-2013, 12:39 PM
He's absolutely correct. I've said the same thing myself. It doesn't matter how sound the Republican argument is, they will be blamed for any resistance to Democratic spending to stave off "disaster".
fj1200
02-22-2013, 02:03 PM
That's because the Dem narrative is easy... it may be wrong but easy trumps wrong. That's why we don't counter their narrative with a different narrative, it's a matter of educating as to what is true rather than what is a better story.
aboutime
02-22-2013, 07:15 PM
Doesn't really matter which party lays claim to an Economic Narrative that trumps the other.
FACTS do not lie.
Millions are still OUT OF WORK.
Many more Millions are collecting Welfare, Food Stamps, and other Government handouts.
The nation is in a Deadly Spiral of Debt.
Our children, and their children will FOREVER be in debt as long as OBAMA, and the DEMOCRATS spend money we don't have.
Kathianne
02-23-2013, 02:07 AM
I suppose this is the reason why that my initial response to the re-election of the worst president ever was probably correct; even though I would be defined a nihilist by Noonan:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324503204578318540475371284.html?m od=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
Updated February 22, 2013, 6:31 p.m. ET
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Obama's scare tactics aren't much of a long-term strategy.
The president's sequester strategy is like Howard Beale in "Network": "Woe is us. . . . And woe is us! We're in a lot of trouble!"
It is always cliffs, ceilings and looming catastrophes with Barack Obama (http://topics.wsj.com/person/O/Barack-Obama/4328). It is always government by freakout.
That's what's happening now with the daily sequester warnings. Seven hundred thousand children will be dropped from Head Start. Six hundred thousand women and children will be dropped from aid programs.
Meat won't be inspected. Seven thousand TSA workers will be laid off, customs workers too, and air traffic controllers. Lines at airports will be impossible. The Navy will slow down the building of an aircraft carrier. Troop readiness will be disrupted, weapons programs slowed or stalled, civilian contractors stiffed, uniformed first responders cut back. Our nuclear deterrent will be indefinitely suspended. Ha, made that one up, but give them time.
Mr. Obama has finally hit on his own version of national unity: Everyone get scared together.
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And so far this seems to be working fine for him. A USA Today/Pew Research Center poll out this week reported half the respondents said it will be the Republicans' fault if the sequester goes through. Only a third said they'd blame the president.
So it's tempting to see this moment as part of the continuing saga of Obama Triumphant. But I'm not so sure. Short-term you can win the way the president wins, but long-term? No, that's not the way to go.
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Republicans on the Hill, of course, are being cast as the nihilists in the drama, as the ones who want to blow things up. But is that even remotely fair? They just lost a battle on taxes—they fought, got their heads handed to them and accepted an increase in rates.
What they are saying now to the president is: "OK, we gave you tax increases. Don't demand more right now. Work with us on spending cuts and a broad and coherent tax-reform plan. Don't do the kind of small, targeted loophole-closing that's just meant to torment the dread rich. Do something more solid and comprehensive. And yes, let's move to do what we can on entitlement spending."
That's not very radical.
If they wanted to be nihilists—and they must sometimes feel tempted—they could be. They could let the president have everything he wants—more spending, higher taxes—while making a great rhetorical show of resistance, and then caving in. They could give him everything he asks for and let the economy suffer for it, which would help resistance to Obamanomics spread and grow. The debt and the deficit would grow. Economic malaise would continue and deepen. You could call this the H.L. Mencken approach: "Democracy," he observed, "is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
But congressional Republicans will not do that. Because, actually, they're not nihilists. And yes, they'd co-own the catastrophe and risk being swept out.
But time may be their friend. The president looks strong now, but governing by freakout has too many costs. Again, he is overplaying his hand.
Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
02-23-2013, 11:59 AM
I suppose this is the reason why that my initial response to the re-election of the worst president ever was probably correct; even though I would be defined a nihilist by Noonan:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324503204578318540475371284.html?m od=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
obama overplaying his hand may not be important if he succeeds in obliterating the GOP.
SINGLE PARTY RULE WILL HAVE JUST ONE END AND THAT IS EVENTUAL DICTATORSHIP.
That is reality and obama banks on it. Should there be a civil war he still considers that he wins , that his ideology wins. This is what more people need to understand IMHO.--Tyr
Robert A Whit
02-25-2013, 04:10 PM
Note: Rothenberg is NOT a Democrat shill.
Rothenberg: Democrats' Economic Narrative Still Trumps GOP's
http://www.rollcall.com/news/rothenberg_democrats_economic_narrative_still_trum ps_gops-222560-1.html
It takes the very honest man to turn down Democrats offer to pay our bills for us using someone else's money.
But there are still the honest. I have faith they shall prevail at the end.
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