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red states rule
02-17-2013, 05:30 AM
There may be hope yet for MN. Seems when Dems have to pay taxes, meet a payroll, and still make a profit - THEN high taxes become the problem

My question is when the hell do these life long Dems STOP voting for tax and spend liberals?





Dik Bolger is a lifelong Minnesota Democrat, a gray-bearded baby boomer with a braid down his back whose Minneapolis printing company's plant displays work by local artists and sculptors. He backed Mark Dayton (http://www.debatepolicy.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news%2Fpolitics&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Mark+Dayton%22) for governor, but his take on the Democratic chief executive's plan for new business taxes could be the voice-over for a Republican campaign commercial.

"We're screwed," Bolger said, if the tax goes through. His 79-year-old company competes nationwide and overseas for work with major brands like Chanel. "If you're bidding for a $100,000 job on a national basis and tax expenses push you a couple of percent higher, then I'm not competitive."

For generations, Minnesotans lived out the progressive argument that high taxes and high services were what gave the state its fabled quality of life. But the patience of business owners is being tried more than ever, as Dayton and the Democrats (http://www.debatepolicy.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news%2Fpolitics&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Democrats%22) who now control the Capitol mull a menu of tax increases that would primarily hit company ledgers — just as most states are going the opposite way.

Dayton has proposed tax changes he says would make the system fairer and also bring in $2 billion in new revenue. Much of the gain would come from a state sales tax on "business-to-business" purchases like legal, accounting, banking and printing costs. Few states tax such services. He would also boost Minnesota's personal income tax rates from eighth to fourth highest in the nation, behind only Hawaii, California and Oregon.

Meanwhile, many other governors_Republicans and even some Democrats— are trying to cut their income taxes and make other changes to attract businesses. That includes many of Minnesota's neighbors in the Midwest, such as Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma and Nebraska.

Whether taxes kill jobs is one of the longest-running arguments in politics, and it's about to get tested in a big way in this region.

"I'm the kind of person willing to pay more in taxes because of all the attributes and benefits Minnesota offers," said John Taft (http://www.debatepolicy.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news%2Fpolitics&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22John+Taft%22), CEO of Minneapolis-based RBC Wealth Management (http://www.debatepolicy.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news%2Fpolitics&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22RBC+Wealth+Management%22). "But you do reach a tipping point where the cost of government gets too high and this would push us past that tipping point."


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/Do-tax-increases-kill-jobs-Minn-soon-to-find-out-4275700.php#ixzz2LD5YSnqP

Missileman
02-17-2013, 08:35 AM
There may be hope yet for MN. Seems when Dems have to pay taxes, meet a payroll, and still make a profit - THEN high taxes become the problem

My question is when the hell do these life long Dems STOP voting for tax and spend liberals?

No no no...that's wrong! Higher taxes don't affect the cost of doing business and the cost of products. Just ask Gabby and Bingster and Mundame...they'll tell ya! :rolleyes:

cadet
02-17-2013, 10:51 AM
No no no...that's wrong! Higher taxes don't affect the cost of doing business and the cost of products. Just ask Gabby and Bingster and Mundame...they'll tell ya! :rolleyes:

Totally, that's like, saying people will spend more (and help the economy) if they're taxed less! :laugh:

Little-Acorn
02-17-2013, 03:11 PM
Totally, that's like, saying people will spend more (and help the economy) if they're taxed less! :laugh:

Yep, just like that.

But don't worry. Those lifelong Democrats will still vote the party line. They always do. Have to keep those eeevil Republicans out, dontcha know, and avoid all the turrible things they will do, whatever those are. Starving children, dispossessing seniors, poisoning the air and water, like Republicans always do. Everybody knows that, it must be true.

So the Democrat politicians in Minnesota are safe.

red states rule
02-18-2013, 05:10 AM
So after all these years Dems in MN are "shocked" to find out the Dems they elected into office have a love affair with higher taxes



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1DEG6BWgp0&feature=player_embedded

Voted4Reagan
02-18-2013, 07:47 AM
The land of Mondale never ceases to prove why liberal policies are such a failure

tailfins
02-18-2013, 10:35 AM
They are politicians first, Democrats second and Americans no more than third. Since they just got back the majority, some Minnesota DFLers are leery of being defeated next year. There is hope.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
02-18-2013, 11:18 AM
They are politicians first, Democrats second and Americans no more than third. Since they just got back the majority, some Minnesota DFLers are leery of being defeated next year. There is hope.

A great many of them are avowed liberals first so that would make them Americans 4th not 3rd. And when you add in anti-christian that relegates being American to 5th place! -Tyr

red states rule
02-19-2013, 02:57 AM
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