State Healthcare Non-Accountability

[Drummond]

It's accounts like this one which, I suggest, should be a cautionary tale against any possibility of moving forward with State Healthcare plans.

The UK was the first in the world to launch State-run healthcare .. from way back in 1948. Now, if the principle of State-run healthcare is so very 'workable' and so very 'ideal' a model to have in place, then we Brits should, by now, have it running smoothly, well enough for there to be no possibility of it producing any healthcare tragedies of any great note.

But the opposite is, in fact, true.

This reports on the aftermath of a failing which was reported some time ago ..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272508/Only-THREE-managers-dock-NHS-scandal-1-200-unnecessary-deaths.html#axzz2JnAP1jIg


Three managers from Mid Staffordshire NHS Trust are to face public disciplinary hearings over their failings during the worst-ever NHS hospital scandal.

It is understood they will be the first to face the prospect of formal action over appalling standards of care at the trust between 2005 and 2009.

Staff there have been blamed for the ‘unnecessary’ deaths of up to 1,200 people because they put targets and cost-cutting ahead of patients’ needs.

The most shocking examples included receptionists assessing emergency cases, patients forced to drink from vases and the seriously ill being left in filthy bedsheets.

Only one suspended nurse has so far suffered any formal sanction – despite 79 doctors and nurses being reported to regulators for investigation.

Now the General Medical Council has confirmed that three doctors working as managers and another doctor have been summoned to appear before a fitness to practise tribunal following an investigation into their actions.

The unnamed doctors face being struck off the medical register or having restrictions applied to their licenses.

However, critics have pointed out that many more managers and medical staff have been allowed to retire on lucrative pensions or find jobs elsewhere in the NHS.

Julie Bailey founded the Cure The NHS campaign group after her 86-year-old mother, Bella, died at Stafford Hospital in 2007 following a fall.

During her mother’s stay, Mrs Bailey grew so appalled by conditions at the hospital that she began feeding and washing other patients.

Mrs Bailey, who campaigned alongside former nurse and agony aunt Claire Rayner, said: ‘This is long overdue. The GMC is far too late and the process takes far too long.

'There’s no information about what allegations these doctors face.

'There were between 400 and 1,200 unnecessary deaths and doctors stood by and watched this happen. Why aren’t they all facing sanctions?

‘We want accountability for the hundreds of deaths at that hospital.’

It comes as an official inquiry into the scandal, led by Robert Francis QC, will publish its final report on Wednesday. It is expected to recommend major NHS reforms ....
Too little, too late ?

This is a study not only of just how badly a State health system can let its patients down, but also of inertia from the authorities responsible. And why ? Because, in a State system, unaccountability is rife .. in large part leading to the very conditions which allow for the complacency that causes such horrors.

Do you want such failures in America .. by abdicating control of healthcare administration to State-run bureaucracy ?

Obama, given the chance, would be delighted to oblige ...

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2275353/4-000-people-dying-needlessly-26-NHS-trusts-year.html


More than 4,000 patients a year are dying needlessly in the care of 26 NHS trusts, a study shows.

The analysis suggests the scandal at Stafford hospital – where 1,200 are thought to have died through neglect – was not an isolated case.

The figure of 26 represents one in six of the country’s health trusts. David Cameron has already responded to the Mid Staffordshire crisis by ordering probes into five trusts with high mortality rates.

But Brian Jarman, a globally-recognised expert on hospital performance, believes 21 more should be added to the list.

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Your system now has competition from Obamacare

http://i1.cpcache.com/product/398059984/obamacare_side_effects_bumper_sticker.jpg?color=Wh ite&height=460&width=460

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

It's accounts like this one which, I suggest, should be a cautionary tale against any possibility of moving forward with State Healthcare plans.

The UK was the first in the world to launch State-run healthcare .. from way back in 1948. Now, if the principle of State-run healthcare is so very 'workable' and so very 'ideal' a model to have in place, then we Brits should, by now, have it running smoothly, well enough for there to be no possibility of it producing any healthcare tragedies of any great note.

But the opposite is, in fact, true.

This reports on the aftermath of a failing which was reported some time ago ..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272508/Only-THREE-managers-dock-NHS-scandal-1-200-unnecessary-deaths.html#axzz2JnAP1jIg


Too little, too late ?

This is a study not only of just how badly a State health system can let its patients down, but also of inertia from the authorities responsible. And why ? Because, in a State system, unaccountability is rife .. in large part leading to the very conditions which allow for the complacency that causes such horrors.

Do you want such failures in America .. by abdicating control of healthcare administration to State-run bureaucracy ?

Obama, given the chance, would be delighted to oblige ...

No we do not want such a system but the foreign entity that now controls out government does!
Just that simple to we that know our government is not controlled by -we the citizens- nor truly by our Representatives in Washington. The globalists use their trillions very effectively.. First they put in their guy as President, then they put in the Government Healthcare System.
Control over us must have a system that can enforce it. -Tyr

[Drummond]

Your system now has competition from Obamacare

http://i1.cpcache.com/product/398059984/obamacare_side_effects_bumper_sticker.jpg?color=Wh ite&height=460&width=460

I never doubted it. Though .. is it 'competition', or, a Globalist expansion into your own borders of the crap we've long since has to live with (.. or is that actually 'die because of ' ..) ?

[Drummond]

No we do not want such a system but the foreign entity that now controls out government does!
Just that simple to we that know our government is not controlled by -we the citizens- nor truly by our Representatives in Washington. The globalists use their trillions very effectively.. First they put in their guy as President, then they put in the Government Healthcare System.
Control over us must have a system that can enforce it. -Tyr

Quite apart from the other implications, consider its cost if the US ever tried to fully copy our model. The British NHS is one of the biggest single employers on the planet, taking staff, expertise, away from various countries. Now consider an American equivalent, set up to cover around FIVE TIMES the size of population !

Our own version, started in 1948, nearly bankrupted us as a nation .. what would YOUR version, do to YOU ? And I'm sure countries across the world would resent being impoverished of their medically trained staff, as your country recruited their people at multiple times the rate that we do in the UK.

Obama would doubtless not only raise taxes, but maybe invent new ones which you'd be 'privileged' to pay .. By Order ... and how much of the resources created would go to immigrants, anyway (legitimate or otherwise), to look after their needs ??

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Quite apart from the other implications, consider its cost if the US ever tried to fully copy our model. The British NHS is one of the biggest single employers on the planet, taking staff, expertise, away from various countries. Now consider an American equivalent, set up to cover around FIVE TIMES the size of population !

Our own version, started in 1948, nearly bankrupted us as a nation .. what would YOUR version, do to YOU ? And I'm sure countries across the world would resent being impoverished of their medically trained staff, as your country recruited their people at multiple times the rate that we do in the UK.

Obama would doubtless not only raise taxes, but maybe invent new ones which you'd be 'privileged' to pay .. By Order ... and how much of the resources created would go to immigrants, anyway (legitimate or otherwise), to look after their needs ??

No doubt, obama's intent is control by way of the healthcare dictatorship. How about some day in the future when the government tells each American turn in your guns of we will completely cut of healthcare for you and your entire family!???
Think that may be a extremely effective method of forcing compliance?? FORCING AMERICANS TO GIVE UP LIBERTIES!!
I do!!

[Drummond]

No doubt, obama's intent is control by way of the healthcare dictatorship. How about some day in the future when the government tells each American turn in your guns of we will completely cut of healthcare for you and your entire family!???
Think that may be a extremely effective method of forcing compliance?? FORCING AMERICANS TO GIVE UP LIBERTIES!!
I do!!:clap::clap:

No question about it. Entirely agree !

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This story made the front page of the Daily Mail on Friday ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2279458/Its-like-Stalins-Russia--speak-youre-crushed-NHS-whistleblower-reveals-bosses-bid-gag-ruined-life.html


The elderly male patient lay on a trolley in a sluice room, alongside used vomit bowls, urine bottles and soiled sheets. Overcrowding had reached such a catastrophic nadir — all the wards were crammed to over-capacity; corridors were even occupied — that there was simply nowhere else to put him.

When Gary Walker, head of the NHS trust responsible for Lincoln County Hospital, learned his staff had been forced to house emergency admissions in such insanitary and dangerous conditions, he was appalled.

‘It was even more terrifying that the manager who told me about this incident did not seem to consider it untoward,’ he says. ‘Yet the risk of infection was horrifying.

The patient had been put in an area near a sink in which you empty solid waste, sick and urine. He was surrounded by dirty sheets and soiled incontinence pads.’

Medical staff had, says Mr Walker, become accustomed to jeopardising patients’ safety in order to accommodate them in the trust’s perilously overstretched hospitals.

‘I went into the emergency assessment area and one of the nurses expressed concern about the new arrangements for the unit,’ he recalls.

‘They’d had to put patients on trolleys so close together that there were huge problems with cross-infection. The staff could not even squeeze between them. It looked like a military field hospital.

‘I asked what happened when a patient needed treatment. She said, “We pull them into the middle of the corridor and see to it there.”’

Any right-thinking person would have applauded Mr Walker, 43, for the action he took next. As the then chief executive of the United Lincolnshire Hospitals Trust, he realised there was a solution.

‘I knew we should prioritise quality of care and safety so we cancelled 1,000 non-urgent operations in a month to make adequate space for emergency patients.

‘I told the health authority that the hospitals in the trust were dangerously overfull and we needed to build a new 100-bed unit if we wanted to operate safely.’

Mr Walker’s bosses, however, had other priorities. Driven by a blinkered compulsion to meet Government-imposed waiting-list targets of 18 weeks for non-urgent surgery, the strategic health authority informed Mr Walker he had to obey its wishes.

The two-year battle that ensued when he refused to do so led to his dismissal from his £150,000-a-year post last February.

After he was fired on what he claims — with some justification — was a trumped-up charge of swearing, he was given a £500,000 pay-off on condition he keep quiet about the true reasons for his sacking.

However, this week he broke his silence about the scandal that prompted his dismissal — a shambolic failure of care, thought to have contributed to the unnecessary deaths of 670 patients since 2009 who were in the care of the Lincolnshire trust.

In so doing, he ignored the terms of the super-gag he signed in return for his pay-off. Yesterday the Mail published the threatening email he received from NHS lawyers ordering him to respect the terms of the gagging order issued in 2011 — or risk having to repay the hush money.

But Mr Walker, who has not worked since he lost his job, intends to continue campaigning for a change of culture in the NHS, even if he faces financial ruin.

‘I stand to lose more than I ever received,’ he says, ‘but I won’t go away until I feel every patient can go into a hospital and feel protected.’
Here's an individual who's stood up for patients within a healthcare system that has victimised them. As a result, he faces ruin.

Folks .. if you ever meet a Leftie with some pressing propagandist need to sell State Healthcare to you as a 'decent' option, consider the TRUTH about the oldest, most tried-and-tested system the world has seen.

Consider its appalling failures. Consider the control-freakery associated with upkeeping a false image about it.

Who, in their right mind, would ever think it right to confer to the State such basic power over peoples' wellbeing, with the potential for massive, even deadly, potential for abuse this carries ?

[Drummond]

This scandal just gets worse. It goes to show just how institutionally corrupt the NHS is, and maybe even NEEDS to be, in order to promote a good image of itself ... as matters stand, anyway ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2280248/NHS-chief-Sir-David-Nicholson-MUST-held-account-ignoring-warnings-lives-risk-says-second-whistleblower.html


David Bowles told Sir David Nicholson that United Lincolnshire Hospitals was being put under ‘huge pressure’ to meet non-urgent targets.

He said patient safety was being compromised as it had been in Stafford where 1,200 lives are thought to have been lost needlessly.

But the 63-year-old was hounded out of his job as chairman just like Gary Walker, the trust’s former chief executive, who risked a £500,000 pay-off to break a gagging order last week.

Mr Walker exposed the way in which meeting targets was prioritised over patient care and called for Sir David’s resignation for failing to intervene.

The most powerful man in the NHS is already under pressure to quit over his role in the Mid Staffordshire scandal.

On Friday, Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt attacked ‘institutional self-preservation’ in the Health Service while grieving families marched on Downing Street to call for Sir David’s resignation.

Last night, Mr Bowles demanded Sir David be held to account for his role in ‘ignoring’ an imminent scandal at his trust, which is now under investigation over the deaths of 670 patients.
Just think. If Obama realised his fondest dream ... that of a fully State-run healthcare system ... what you're seeing here may be a glimpse of its future. A future where such a system can only appear viable through deception, and crushing all dissenting voices, Stalin-style ..

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

This scandal just gets worse. It goes to show just how institutionally corrupt the NHS is, and maybe even NEEDS to be, in order to promote a good image of itself ... as matters stand, anyway ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2280248/NHS-chief-Sir-David-Nicholson-MUST-held-account-ignoring-warnings-lives-risk-says-second-whistleblower.html


Just think. If Obama realised his fondest dream ... that of a fully State-run healthcare system ... what you're seeing here may be a glimpse of its future. A future where such a system can only appear viable through deception, and crushing all dissenting voices, Stalin-style ..


obamacare when fully implemented will be far, far worse!! Just imagine because it will be so much larger and so many hundreds of billions dollars more to graft from. More reasons to cut corners , lower quality of care and yes , eventually save by finding ways to end life sooner.
And remember Islamists will be exempted from paying, so service will be free for them and very special arrangements made for them too!!. -Tyr

[Drummond]

obamacare when fully implemented will be far, far worse!! Just imagine because it will be so much larger and so many hundreds of billions dollars more to graft from. More reasons to cut corners , lower quality of care and yes , eventually save by finding ways to end life sooner.
And remember Islamists will be exempted from paying, so service will be free for them and very special arrangements made for them too!!. -Tyr

Exactly. Just as the system in America would have to be far larger -- so its running costs will be truly massive. The temptation to cut corners would never be resisted, and just as here, lifesaving treatments would be rationed or banned altogether, on grounds of cost. 'Death panels' would, I'm sure, be a reality.

Perhaps an un-admitted reality.

I think the bad effects of it would be felt clear across the world, not just in America. Just as we employ medical staff from other countries, so would the US, only in numbers dwarfing ours. Just how great a drain would that be on other countries, in dire need of those personnel ... if attracted to the US from a promise of improved wages and conditions (... and maybe they'd be fast-tracked through your immigration system ?).

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Exactly. Just as the system in America would have to be far larger -- so its running costs will be truly massive. The temptation to cut corners would never be resisted, and just as here, lifesaving treatments would be rationed or banned altogether, on grounds of cost. 'Death panels' would, I'm sure, be a reality.

Perhaps an un-admitted reality.

I think the bad effects of it would be felt clear across the world, not just in America. Just as we employ medical staff from other countries, so would the US, only in numbers dwarfing ours. Just how great a drain would that be on other countries, in dire need of those personnel ... if attracted to the US from a promise of improved wages and conditions (... and maybe they'd be fast-tracked through your immigration system ?).

Well, its known obamacare will be so huge that it will draw doctors and med personnel from all over the globe. Thus shorting other nations!
Sure graft and corruption will run rampant from the start, far too much money to be stolen for people to resist.