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jimnyc
01-25-2013, 04:39 PM
Amazing that these nitwits exempt themselves from Obamacare first, and now government officials get a pass on this proposed legislation.


Not everyone will have to abide by Senator Dianne Feinstein's gun control bill. If the proposed legislation becomes law, government officials and others will be exempt.

"Mrs. Feinstein's measure would exempt more than 2,200 types of hunting and sporting rifles; guns manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slide action; and weapons used by government officials, law enforcement and retired law enforcement personnel," the Washington Times reports.

The Huffington Post confirms these exemptions, and adds that guns owned prior to the legislation becoming law will be permissble, too. "[T]he bill includes a number of exemptions: It exempts more than 2,200 hunting and sporting weapons; any gun manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action; any weapons used by government officials and law enforcement; and any weapons legally owned as of the date of the bill's enactment."

The bill's measures include stopping "the sale, manufacture and importation of 158 specifically named military-style firearms and ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. It would also ban an additional group of assault weapons that accept detachable ammunition magazines and have at least one military characteristic," according to the Huffington Post.

The left-leaning website adds: "Other new provisions include requiring background checks on all future transfers of assault weapons covered under the bill and eliminating the 10-year sunset that allowed the original ban to expire."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feinstein-gun-control-bill-exempt-government-officials_697732.html

Thunderknuckles
01-25-2013, 04:44 PM
Amazing that these nitwits exempt themselves from Obamacare first, and now government officials get a pass on this proposed legislation.



http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feinstein-gun-control-bill-exempt-government-officials_697732.html
I think this one was derived from that idiot mistake they made in New York by banning "high capacity" clips over 7 rounds which made every police officer in the state a criminal.

But you know, government knows best

red states rule
01-27-2013, 06:52 AM
Amazing that these nitwits exempt themselves from Obamacare first, and now government officials get a pass on this proposed legislation.



http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feinstein-gun-control-bill-exempt-government-officials_697732.html

Nothing new here Jim. Dems exempted Congress, their staff, and union buddies from Obamacare. Why would they consider for a moment having to live under the same laws they impose of the rest of us? They are commonly know as they Imperial Congress

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
01-27-2013, 11:06 AM
http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~rurap/nihilism.htm

The fact that Bazarov is a young medical student is important for our understanding of his ‘nihilism’. In the nineteenth century the medical profession was becoming increasingly more scientifically based, even though it had not fully turned its back on ancient authorities, the theory of humours and the practice of bloodletting. Bazarov’s father is of the old school and seeks to remind his son of the value of the old authorities: ‘However much you twist and turn on this matter, young gentlemen, all the same Paracelsus proclaimed the sacred truth: inherbis, verbis et lapidibus’ [8, 314]. Yet Vasilii Ivanovich’s medical knowledge also embraces later theoreticians. He shows Arkadii a plaster-of-Paris head divided into numbered rectangles, with the words:.. ‘Schonlein is not unknown to us and Rademacher’, to which Bazarov responds: 'And do they still believe in Rademacher in *** province?’ [8, 312]. (Turgenev’s own scepticism on the contemporary state of medicine had already been expressed in his authorial comment on the doctor who attended Insarov in On the Eve: ‘The doctor was himself still young, and believed in the science’ [8, 118]).
It is as a ‘doctor’ that Bazarov introduces himself to Fenechka, and offers medical attention to her baby, but, as we have seen, there may be other reasons underlying the way he wishes to present himself to Fenechka. In fact Bazarov is not yet a doctor and with Odintsova he appears more explicit, claiming: ‘I am studying natural sciences’ and ‘I shall be a country medic’ [8, 297]. In recommending his friend to his father, Arkadii had said: ‘His chief subject is natural sciences. But he knows everything. Next year he wants to take exams to be a doctor’ [8, 202].4 (http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~rurap/nihilism.htm#4) Bazarov’s training, therefore, is in natural sciences, and this explains his experimental approach to medicine. A constant activity appears to be the dissection of frogs, but it is one related to his proposed profession, as he tells a peasant lad who watches him at work: ‘I shall split open a frog, and will look at what goes on inside it; and since you and I are just frogs, only we walk about on legs, I will know what happens inside us…so as not to make a mistake, if you should fall ill and I have to cure you.’ [8, 212]. Given the state of medical science of his time Bazarov, as many others, is seeking to get away from the precepts of received medical wisdom and turn it into a science, based upon empirically tested facts. Büchner is the materialist doctor, whose work Kraft und Stoff is proclaimed by Arkadii and Bazarov as desirable reading for the older generation.5 (http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~rurap/nihilism.htm#5) It is in the light of his empirical approach to science that Bazarov's mistrust of abstract ‘principles’ must be seen, and in terms of the novel’s symbolism it is no accident that, of the two main clashes with Pavel Petrovich over ‘authorities’ and ‘principles’ - one begins with the collection of frogs (the end of chapter 5 and the opening of chapter 6) and the other (chapter 10) ends with their dissection [8, 217-8; 248]. The cynical remark of Pavel Petrovich, which precedes these chapters: ‘He does not believe in principles, but he believes in frogs’ [8, 217] is in fact a statement of the truth.
Yet the matter is wider than this. Bazarov is a young man living in post-Crimean Russia, when great reforms are in the air and established institutions and ideas are being challenged on every hand. His attitude to the ‘authorities’ and ‘principles’ of medicine is carried on into the wider sphere of social and political life, as his arguments with Pavel Petrovich make clear - it is ‘the principle scarcely yet born and still in ferment’ of which Turgenev speaks in Apropos of ‘Fathers and Children’;6 (http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~rurap/nihilism.htm#6) for he sees there, in his unnamed doctor, an embodiment of what is going on in society, and therefore ‘I listened and looked attentively at everything around me, and as though wishing to believe the truth of my own feelings’ [14, 97].
The figures Turgenev obviously has in mind are young radicals such as Dobroliubov and Chernyshevsky, and the even more extreme Pisarev.7 (http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~rurap/nihilism.htm#7) Like Bazarov, they were orientated towards science and sought to bring a rationalistic, materialistic attitude to bear on all problems of human life under the influence of such thinkers as Feuerbach, Molleschott, Büchner and Vogt (a fact brought out more clearly in Chernyshevsky's What is to be done? through the activities of the doctors Kirsanov and Lopukhov - names obviously polemicising with Turgenev's novel.8 (http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~rurap/nihilism.htm#8)
The wider area of Bazarov’s interests is already suggested in the way Arkadii introduces his friend to his father: ‘He knows everything’ [8, 202] - an idea he makes more explicit in conversation with Bazarov’s father: ‘"I am sure",

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If you do not get the point don't bother me with asking.. This is for the readers that are not pretend intellectuals..Out of politeness I shall not name names.. The majority of members here know and will get the point!--Tyr

red states rule
01-28-2013, 03:05 AM
The authors of the Constitution would become ill if they saw what Congress has become