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jimnyc
12-08-2012, 11:53 AM
I can understand saving someone's life who needs a transplant - but do citizens and those who are here legally get free medical procedures? This one wonders "Why can't we be treated the same?" - and I agree, he should have to pay for services like everyone else.


As an illegal immigrant, Jorge Mariscal waited eight years for a kidney transplant he feared would never come.

His persistence paid off Thursday when he underwent the procedure at Loyola University Medical Center.

After years of uncertainties, Mariscal said he's excited about his future and grateful for the help he received. But he remains frustrated with a health care system that he worries might leave out an untold number of illegal immigrants in need of lifesaving treatments.

"Why can't we be treated the same?" he asked while sitting in his hospital room. "Health care should be a human right, not a privilege. At least give us the chance to fight for our lives with dignity."

Mariscal's treatment is far from over. The pills he'll need to make sure his body doesn't reject the new organ can cost upward of $10,000 a year for the rest of his life. And paying for those, just like the surgery, is complicated by his immigration status.

Although Loyola agreed to cover the costs of the transplant, Mariscal will have to pay for the medicine. He applied for a grant through the Simon Bolivar Foundation, a medical nonprofit, that would help cover his first year of anti-rejection pills. But without health insurance, he expects he'll have to pay for most of his medication.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-illegal-immigrant-kidney-transplant-20121209,0,3537821.story

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
12-08-2012, 01:34 PM
I can understand saving someone's life who needs a transplant - but do citizens and those who are here legally get free medical procedures? This one wonders "Why can't we be treated the same?" - and I agree, he should have to pay for services like everyone else.



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-illegal-immigrant-kidney-transplant-20121209,0,3537821.story


Always the ideal is put forth that Americans should pay for other nation's citizens care! While the concept that if thier native home fails to do so why should we is ignored altogether? Its the insanity of proposing that we are responsible for other nation's citizens healthcare. A liberal insanity designed to weaken us is all that it is.. -Tyr

aboutime
12-08-2012, 07:24 PM
What's the big deal, or unusual with an Illegal alien getting anything for Free?

Obama, and many of his friends get FREE stuff almost every day since he was elected!

Just remember this....41164117

logroller
12-09-2012, 03:51 AM
Loyola is a private university, so I dont believe public funds were used for this procedure. But to answer jimnyc's question on whether others receive free treatments-- I'm sure they do. Additionally, I'm sure many citizens' transplants are funded by Medicare/Medicaid. (It doesn't appear to be the case in the op; I'd be troubled by that) nor should the US should foot the bill for a foreign born person's anti-rejection meds, and I would assume most transplant hospitals require financial preparations be in place prior to receive the operation. That's just one aspect of qualifying for an organ transplant. Obviously, a compatible donor must be available. In the case of the OP, it was the recipient's mother. Kidneys are unique in that we have two, so there are living donors and, sometimes, they are complete strangers either through donor chains or just good will. I'm not nearly as impressed by a doctor or hospital donating surgical time/facilities as someone donating a kidney to someone they don't know. Pretty amazing gift. Checkout www.livingdonors.org (http://www.livingdonors.org)for more

red states rule
12-10-2012, 03:51 AM
I can understand saving someone's life who needs a transplant - but do citizens and those who are here legally get free medical procedures? This one wonders "Why can't we be treated the same?" - and I agree, he should have to pay for services like everyone else.



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-illegal-immigrant-kidney-transplant-20121209,0,3537821.story

Jim, that is liberal compassion. Libs are willing to spend every cent you have (and every cent I have) to show how much they care. So what if they are here illegally (and that is now a racist term BTW) Obama will grant him amnesty soon enough anyway THEN he can get "free" healthcare under Obamacare. Meanwhile the liberal media have been playing up health care for illegals for sometime now.
Immigration Wars: How to Waste Money and Treat People Cruelly<address class="byline author vcard">By ANDREW ROSENTHAL (http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/author/andrew-rosenthal/)</address><!-- The Content --> We have written a lot on our editorial page about immigration policy – or rather the lack of a coherent, comprehensive immigration policy. Sometimes big national issues can boil down to one person’s story.
Lawrence Downes, who covers immigration issues for the editorial page, pointed out an article today by Nina Bernstein (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/nyregion/illegal-immigrants-transplant-cheaper-over-life-isnt-covered.html?pagewanted=all) about a Mexican immigrant in Brooklyn, a waiter named Angel, whose kidneys are failing. Dialysis keeps him alive. His brother is willing to donate a kidney, but Angel can’t get a transplant because he is here illegally.

Hospitals won’t agree to the transplant because they are not sure they’ll get reimbursed. So they want to be paid up front, with money Angel doesn’t have. He can’t buy private insurance because of his pre-existing condition. And he can’t go home to Mexico without risking both his livelihood and his family. His children are American citizens.
Instead Angel gets outpatient dialysis, which costs taxpayers $75,000 a year because it is emergency treatment under Medicaid in New York. A transplant would cost $100,000, end the dialysis and double Angel’s life expectancy.
Ms. Bernstein talked with Dana Rohrabacher, a Republican Congressman from California who is one of the most unreasonable anti-immigrant voices in the House, which is really saying something.
He had a simple formula for illegal immigrants: “If they’re dead, I don’t have an objection to their organs being used. If they’re alive, they shouldn’t be here no matter what.”
And that highlights one of the many reasons we have no immigration policy: Plain old cold-hearted xenophobia. http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/immigration-wars-how-to-waste-money-and-treat-people-cruelly/