PRAVDA Calls Obama Supporters "Illiterate & Ignorant"

[taft2012]

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/19-11-2012/122849-obama_soviet_mistake-0/




Recently, Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them. He gives speeches of peace and love in the world while he promotes wars as he did in Egypt, Libya and Syria. He plans his next war is with Iran as he fires or demotes his generals who get in the way.


He is a Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so. How shrewd he is in America. His cult of personality mesmerizes those who cannot go beyond their ignorance. They will continue to follow him like those fools who still praise Lenin and Stalin in Russia. Obama's fools and Stalin's fools share the same drink of illusion.

[revelarts]

the article says all Americans are illiterate and we don't know history. Not just Obama supporters

[logroller]

the article says all Americans are illiterate and we don't know history. Not just Obama supporters
An ironic misinterpretation.:laugh:

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/19-11-2012/122849-obama_soviet_mistake-0/

Dead on accurate. The Pied Piper obama plays his tune the lemmings sing and dance praising him. So very true!
That takes a special kind of ignorance and total self-interest but they manage quite well .-Tyr

[gabosaurus]

The North Korean News Agency did much the same story following the election. Talking about how wasteful elections are and how much money candidates throw away. Meanwhile, the Democratic Republic is quite happy with its Supreme Leader, who always takes care of everyone there.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

The North Korean News Agency did much the same story following the election. Talking about how wasteful elections are and how much money candidates throw away. Meanwhile, the Democratic Republic is quite happy with its Supreme Leader, who always takes care of everyone there.

^^^^^^Well, dont bitch about it , they are your kind of people, ignorant ,enslaved and ruled by a dictator. -Tyr

[Missileman]

The North Korean News Agency did much the same story following the election. Talking about how wasteful elections are and how much money candidates throw away. Meanwhile, the Democratic Republic is quite happy with its Supreme Leader, who always takes care of everyone there.

It really is amazing how large a smile a gun in one's back can evoke. Equally amazing is the thought process (term used loosely) required to see the smile but ignore the gun.

[aboutime]

the article says all Americans are illiterate and we don't know history. Not just Obama supporters


Everyone on this forum knows. Deep down inside. MOST of the Americans between both Oceans probably have a real problem with such words as ILLITERATE.

As for Obama supporters. They are the leaders of those Unconcerned, Under-educated, Uninformed, basically Illiterate Americans who DID vote for Obama.

Anyone who can deny that with a straight face. Probably voted for Obama, and doesn't know the difference anyhow.

[avatar4321]

So they did an honest piece. That's reassuring.

[aboutime]

So they did an honest piece. That's reassuring.



Too bad. I mean. It's terrible that such a foreign rag like Pravda is actually being more truthful than any of the U.S. MSM channels, or newspaper sources.

But. They are SPOT ON. Also a terrible thing to admit about your own nation.

[KarlMarx]

Everyone on this forum knows. Deep down inside. MOST of the Americans between both Oceans probably have a real problem with such words as ILLITERATE.

As for Obama supporters. They are the leaders of those Unconcerned, Under-educated, Uninformed, basically Illiterate Americans who DID vote for Obama.

Anyone who can deny that with a straight face. Probably voted for Obama, and doesn't know the difference anyhow.

I am going to be pretty blunt. People in this country have become stoopid, not just an occasional gaffe, but concrete stoopid. Remember the Roman Empire? Same goes here. We have seen the final years of the America century and are now in decline. Can it be reversed? Of course! Everything can be. However, as I've said before, it won't be enough to win the White House or the Congress, we have to win back the culture.

Things that were unthinkable a generation ago are now reality. I can only imagine, and cringe, at what we'll see in a generation. Sexual exploitation of children as a right? Polygamy? Required euthanasia of the elderly? State approved churches? Enforced abortion?

[Kathianne]

I am going to be pretty blunt. People in this country have become stoopid, not just an occasional gaffe, but concrete stoopid. Remember the Roman Empire? Same goes here. We have seen the final years of the America century and are now in decline. Can it be reversed? Of course! Everything can be. However, as I've said before, it won't be enough to win the White House or the Congress, we have to win back the culture.

Things that were unthinkable a generation ago are now reality. I can only imagine, and cringe, at what we'll see in a generation. Sexual exploitation of children as a right? Polygamy? Required euthanasia of the elderly? State approved churches? Enforced abortion?

Indeed. We've lost our way. The only remedy is teaching the fundamentals of our Republic, something the schools are loathed to do.

[aboutime]

I am going to be pretty blunt. People in this country have become stoopid, not just an occasional gaffe, but concrete stoopid. Remember the Roman Empire? Same goes here. We have seen the final years of the America century and are now in decline. Can it be reversed? Of course! Everything can be. However, as I've said before, it won't be enough to win the White House or the Congress, we have to win back the culture.

Things that were unthinkable a generation ago are now reality. I can only imagine, and cringe, at what we'll see in a generation. Sexual exploitation of children as a right? Polygamy? Required euthanasia of the elderly? State approved churches? Enforced abortion?


KarlMarx. Sadly. Your bluntness isn't far from the truth anymore. I know I probably won't be around to see the destruction of our nation come full circle. But I am damn mad that our five grandchildren will be the victims of the Former United States, as they will struggle much more than any of us who brought the downfall of this nation to fruition through selfishness, ignorance and as you said STOOOOPID people who are not smart enough to see what they are getting for their deal with the Devil.

[Kathianne]

On that topic:

http://www.civiced.org/index.php?page=talking_points


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Preparation for citizenship and the workplace are the twin missions of public education in the United States

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The decline of civic learning in American schools

In recent years, civic learning has been increasingly pushed aside. Until the 1960s, three courses in civics and government were common in American high schools, and two of them ("civics" and "problems of democracy") explored the role of citizens and encouraged students to discuss current issues. Today those courses are very rare. What remains is a course on "American government" that usually spends little time on how people can, and why they should, participate as citizens. This remaining course is usually offered in the twelfth grade, which is both too little and too late. And, it completely misses the large number of students who drop out before their senior year and who are arguably in the greatest need of understanding their rights and responsibilities as citizens. In the elementary grades civic learning used to be woven through the curriculum. Today, slightly more than a third of teachers report covering civic education related subjects on a regular basis. ("Civics 2006: the Nation's Report Card," National Assessment of Educational Progress, administered by the National Assessment Governing Board) Two-thirds of students scored below "proficient" on the last national civics assessment administered in 2006, and 72% of 8th graders surveyed could not identify the historical purpose of the Declaration of Independence. ("Civics 2006: the Nation's Report Card," National Assessment of Educational Progress, administered by the National Assessment Governing Board) Although all state but one has adopted Standards of Learning in civics and government or Standards that address civic education in other subjects, a 2003 study by the Albert Shanker Institute found that the majority of what passes for state standards in the subject are overly broad, concentrate too much on the historical aspects of civic learning rather then the relevance of citizenship and civic participation to students lives, and are unrealistic to cover in the amount of time a teacher is allowed to spend on the subject. ("Educating Democracy: State Standards to Ensure a Civic Core," by Paul Gagnon) In a 2005 study of school district policies and practice, the New Jersey Campaign for the Civic Mission of Schools found that only 39% of districts had a required course in civic education. The same survey found that just 35% of districts offered in-service training opportunities for teachers in civic learning. In a 2005 study of Arizona school districts, the Arizona Campaign for the Civic Mission of Schools found that 53% of teachers had never been given in-service professional development in civic learning. The same survey found that 64% of responding districts were just somewhat satisfied that their civic education programs were creating informed active and engaged citizens; only 17% of districts reported being highly satisfied that their programs were having the desired result. (Both Arizona & New Jersey surveys available by contact Mark Molli at molli@civiced.org or John Hale at hale@civiced.org )

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What should be done to restore the civic mission of schools

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[gabosaurus]

I am going to be pretty blunt. People in this country have become stoopid, not just an occasional gaffe, but concrete stoopid. Remember the Roman Empire? Same goes here. We have seen the final years of the America century and are now in decline. Can it be reversed? Of course! Everything can be. However, as I've said before, it won't be enough to win the White House or the Congress, we have to win back the culture.


I thought the same thing in 2004. Didn't happen then and I doubt it will happen now.
But you are free to dream.

[Kathianne]

I thought the same thing in 2004. Didn't happen then and I doubt it will happen now.
But you are free to dream.

The thing is Gabby, you don't seem to concern yourself with fundamentals. Not of education, not of our political or economic systems. You don't get it or don't care.

[avatar4321]

I am going to be pretty blunt. People in this country have become stoopid, not just an occasional gaffe, but concrete stoopid. Remember the Roman Empire? Same goes here. We have seen the final years of the America century and are now in decline. Can it be reversed? Of course! Everything can be. However, as I've said before, it won't be enough to win the White House or the Congress, we have to win back the culture.

Things that were unthinkable a generation ago are now reality. I can only imagine, and cringe, at what we'll see in a generation. Sexual exploitation of children as a right? Polygamy? Required euthanasia of the elderly? State approved churches? Enforced abortion?

It's true. The people are becoming less intelligent. Look at the Good Friday shopping last week. People got violent over women's underwear. Seriously? You are going to celebrate the Christmas season by getting violent with your fellow man over underwear?

We need to do something to reverse this in our own lives and the lives of our children. We need to be the ones who step up and make sure the next generation is educated. And most importantly they are educated in how to learn and not just assume what they have always been told is true. We need a rising generation that is taught to seek the truth and ask questions, not for the sake of being critical and tearing down, but to lift up one another and themselves with truth.

The Truth will set us free.

[avatar4321]

I thought the same thing in 2004. Didn't happen then and I doubt it will happen now.
But you are free to dream.

What do you mean it didn't happen? Our society has been in decline for quite a while. It hasn't stopped. Obama is accelerating it.

[logroller]

It's true. The people are becoming less intelligent. Look at the Good Friday shopping last week. People got violent over women's underwear. Seriously? You are going to celebrate the Christmas season by getting violent with your fellow man over underwear?

We need to do something to reverse this in our own lives and the lives of our children. We need to be the ones who step up and make sure the next generation is educated. And most importantly they are educated in how to learn and not just assume what they have always been told is true. We need a rising generation that is taught to seek the truth and ask questions, not for the sake of being critical and tearing down, but to lift up one another and themselves with truth.

The Truth will set us free.
Questions like, How much were the women's underwear? ;) J/k.

[red states rule]

The North Korean News Agency did much the same story following the election. Talking about how wasteful elections are and how much money candidates throw away. Meanwhile, the Democratic Republic is quite happy with its Supreme Leader, who always takes care of everyone there.

Seems like what we have now in America. Al least according to the Obama loving liberal media. The takers won and now it is time for Obama to pay them of (using other people's money of course)

[red states rule]

I thought the same thing in 2004. Didn't happen then and I doubt it will happen now.
But you are free to dream.

Obama said he wanted to transform America Gabby and he is doing just that. If al Qaeda still wants to destroy America they better hurry. Obama is beating them to it

[taft2012]

I think the reason the boys over at PRAVDA are so upset is that they were compelled for decades, literally at bayonet point, to write lies to protect their government.

It must be incomprehensible to them that a "free press" would voluntarily throw all professional ethics and standards out and go in the tank for "Dear Leader" so thoroughly.

Consider all of those stories the mainstream news media in this country runs when overseas commentaries are negative about Republicans. "European countries think Bush is dumb!"

So why hasn't this PRAVDA piece, which is far more interesting, gone national?

[KarlMarx]

I thought the same thing in 2004. Didn't happen then and I doubt it will happen now.
But you are free to dream.
You're stuck on thinking elections... I'm talking about a much larger problem. It's a trend I've noticed for quite some time.

[KarlMarx]

In my opinion one way to stop the cultural decline is something I think is simple, but hard to do..... increase biblical literacy. Most people do not read the Bible even if they own one. Most people don't know the fundamental ideas of their faith, if they practice it at all.

No one would go to a country without learning the language, studying maps, learning the customs and culture... why do we think that Christians can practice their faith without being well rooted in its teachings?

I don't believe that attending church once a week and having the scriptures read to you for 5 minutes is enough.

If people were to read the Bible once a day for only a few minutes, I think it would transform our society.

[avatar4321]

You're stuck on thinking elections... I'm talking about a much larger problem. It's a trend I've noticed for quite some time.

That's a major problem. Alot of people are viewing life through a political lens and politics blinds alot of people to what is occuring around them

[avatar4321]

In my opinion one way to stop the cultural decline is something I think is simple, but hard to do..... increase biblical literacy. Most people do not read the Bible even if they own one. Most people don't know the fundamental ideas of their faith, if they practice it at all.

No one would go to a country without learning the language, studying maps, learning the customs and culture... why do we think that Christians can practice their faith without being well rooted in its teachings?

I don't believe that attending church once a week and having the scriptures read to you for 5 minutes is enough.

If people were to read the Bible once a day for only a few minutes, I think it would transform our society.

I completely agree with you. I would add one thing: Daily Family Prayer. The government may keep prayer out of school, but they canat keep it out of our home.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

It's true. The people are becoming less intelligent. Look at the Good Friday shopping last week. People got violent over women's underwear. Seriously? You are going to celebrate the Christmas season by getting violent with your fellow man over underwear?

We need to do something to reverse this in our own lives and the lives of our children. We need to be the ones who step up and make sure the next generation is educated. And most importantly they are educated in how to learn and not just assume what they have always been told is true. We need a rising generation that is taught to seek the truth and ask questions, not for the sake of being critical and tearing down, but to lift up one another and themselves with truth.

The Truth will set us free.

All we need to do is take the pre-fifties school model and replicate it across the board. We have gotten far far away from that . Additionally this can not be done overnight because teachers have to be trained by university professors and that takes time. It took leftists over 40 years to destroy our education system , replace good teachers/textbooks with lousy lying ones, no quick fix is possible IMHO. So that leaves decent responsible parents to fill in the void and reeducate the child as they advance through public school or else go the private school or home schooling path. A shame that the really good teachers we have today are outnumbered and oveshadowed by the lazy, ignorant self-serving ones! Our media and education system were the first two places the socialists infiltrated and they were correct. To effect truly great change it was necessary to reeducate the children while controlling the press. They did exactly that and the media is 100% sold out and the kids are dumbed down right to the level required to be ignorant enough to embrace socialism! While America slept the enemy within worked overtime.

Once a poisonous snake has bitten one must take immediate and drastic steps to survive. We have been bitten but very few understand how important it is now to take those steps ! Largely because denial is always easier that facing the truth. Thats because denial requires no action.. And our government guards its newly created "socialist creating monster" so closely.

The pen is mightier than the sword in the long run but the sword if used correctly in this case could effect recovery. We just have to cut out the cancer(education system), the patient will survive although its current attending doctors and nurses will raise hell.
Replacing the "monster" if even attempted will likely cause bloodshed because thats how important the creation of socialist minded kids is to the powers that be in charge now. Far more effective is to replace the government as well as the education system but there is no way to do that now except by way of fighting. For the corrupted and illegal government that we have now will kill any that try to demolish it. Doubt that fact at your own peril because currently we have a socialist government hiding behind a fake God!! Socialists are fond of defeating their opposition by murdering them and the larger the number to be murdered the better in their minds! America has reached that stage now. Either the people wake up now or the nation falls, by the way , thank the "messiah" for this rapid acceleration because its his primary goal.. --Tyr

[avatar4321]

Reforming the school system would be good, but we need to take a more direct roll in our childrens education and in the community.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Reforming the school system would be good, but we need to take a more direct roll in our childrens education and in the community.

Yes . The will to do right must be restored. Only way I know of to do that is the Christian religion . Our Constitution was written to govern a moral people, it was not designed to do otherwise. For it depends on the judgement and discernment of a moral people that will choose to do the right thing and be intelligent enough, educated enough to know what that right thing is! That has been deliberately destroyed and replaced with people voting for self-interests ,self-preservation with no regard to the future of their kids, grandkids or the nation.
We are now a nation of people that not only harvest the fruit from the orchard but happily cut down the trees to sell for lumber to increase the profits with no thought of future harvests! SAD BUT TRUE..
THOSE BEFORE US SACRIFICED TO LEAVE BETTER, LEAVE MORE THAN THEY INHERITED BUT THAT SELFLESS SACRIFICING IS NO MORE.

PRAVDA should have added SELFISH to that ignorant and illiterate for it plays an even larger role IMHO...-Tyr

[red states rule]

I thought the same thing in 2004. Didn't happen then and I doubt it will happen now.
But you are free to dream.

I do recall how the "smart people" showed their contempt for those who voted for the "wrong" guy. Liberal tolerance was running rampet in the liberal media here and overseas
http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/X/_/bush_dailymirror_dumb_people.jpg