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red states rule
11-20-2012, 04:13 AM
Libs are always in a sour mood - but never more so then during the holiday season. Once again, a liberal on TV went out of her way to ruin your Thanksgiving holiday by reminding you what a rotten place America is and her soiled history
MSNBC host Melissa Harris Perry gave her audience what is perhaps one of the most depressing Thanksgiving send-offs in cable television history on Sunday.
The often controversial host began her Turkey Day monologue on a positive note, describing Thanksgiving as “a uniquely American holiday, where you can relax with the Macy’s parade, football games and eat more food than you can imagine.”
But Perry immediately dashed these simple holiday pleasures with a heavy dose of doom and gloom.
“Thanksgiving is not that simple,” she lectured. “The kindergarten story that you learned about grateful Pilgrims and happy Indians is not even close to the historic reality of how European settlers brought violence, disease and land theft to the indigenous peoples who were already in this land long before it was discovered.”


But the political science professor was not done there. She attacked Macy’s for featuring Donald Trump in a recent ad (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-donald-trumps-macys-ad-offensive-cher-thinks-it-is-take-our-blaze-poll/), saying the department store has “nearly a half million people [urging] them to discontinue their relationship with Donald Trump, who’s vicious, racialized attacks on president Obama’s citizenship have continued unabated.”
She even attacked the NFL and America’s “unbridled enthusiasm for a post pig skin fest.” Perry noted that “thousands of players filed suit against the NFL this year based on claims the league hid information related to head injures and permanent brain damage.”
As for your holiday feast? Perry reminds you that “millions of poor families in this country” regularly go hungry.
Perry went on to say that we should still enjoy our holiday while we “embrace” the ”agony and loss and injustice that under-girds our history.”
Happy politically correct Thanksgiving from MSNBC!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/happy-violence-disease-land-theft-thanksgiving-msnbc-anchor-thinks-so/

CSM
11-20-2012, 06:42 AM
Libs are always in a sour mood - but never more so then during the holiday season. Once again, a liberal on TV went out of her way to ruin your Thanksgiving holiday by reminding you what a rotten place America is and her soiled history

The story actually makes me laugh and reminded me of certain posters on this board. Insult as many as you can with one shot then hide back in the shadows and watch the chaotic fun. The history of this country is what it is. There is no "do over" in which one individual's belief in the way it "should have been" gets established. In addition, trying to make someone else feel ashamed/guilty because of what was done a few hundred years ago is just plain stupid; what is even more stupid is some folks falling for that ploy.

KarlMarx
11-20-2012, 06:53 AM
Like my great uncle Carl used to say to those fellow paisanos who would bad mouth America... if you don't like it here, get out. Despite Obama's best efforts, America is still a great country.. liberals like to sit in the judgement seat and lord over the rest of us. They like to wag their fingers in our faces and tell us how to run our lives. And while doing so, they point to the religious right who they accuse of trying to push their beliefs on the rest of us.

cadet
11-20-2012, 08:48 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/23/rush-limbaugh-thanksgiving_n_1111262.html

^And this is all I have to say. ;)

Kathianne
11-20-2012, 09:10 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/23/rush-limbaugh-thanksgiving_n_1111262.html

^And this is all I have to say. ;)

It's all written down:

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1650bradford.asp#Private%20and%20communal%20farmin g



All this while no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expect any. So they began to think how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery. At length, after much debate of things, the Governor (with the advice of the chiefest amongst them) gave way that they should set corn every man for his own particular, and in that regard trust to themselves; in all other thing to go on in the general way as before. And so assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end, only for present use (but made no division for inheritance) and ranged all boys and youth under some family. This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor or any other could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression.
The experience that was had in this common course and condition, tried sundry years and that amongst godly and sober men, may well evince the vanity of that conceit of Plato's and other ancients applauded by some of later times; and that the taking away of property and bringing in community into a commonwealth would make them happy and flourishing; as if they were wiser than God. For this community (so far as it was) was found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment that would have been to their benefit and comfort. For the young men, that were most able and fit for labor and service, did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men's wives and children without any recompense. The strong, or man of parts, had no more in division of victuals and clothes than he that was weak and not able to do a quarter the other could; this was thought injustice. The aged and graver men to be ranked and equalized in labors and victuals, clothes etc., with the meaner and younger sort, thought it some indignity and disrespect unto them. And for men's wives to be commanded to do service for other men, as dressing their meat, washing their clothes, etc., they deemed it a kind of slavery, neither could many husbands well brook it. Upon the point all being to have alike, and all to do alike, they thought themselves in the like condition, and one as good as another; and so, if it did not cut off those relations that God hath set amongst men, yet it did at least much diminish and take off the mutual respects that should be preserved amongst them. And would have been worse if they had been men of another condition. Let none object this is men's corruption, and nothing to the course itself. I answer, seeing all men have this corruption in them, God in His wisdom saw another course fitter for them.

aboutime
11-20-2012, 04:17 PM
Libs are always in a sour mood - but never more so then during the holiday season. Once again, a liberal on TV went out of her way to ruin your Thanksgiving holiday by reminding you what a rotten place America is and her soiled history


Oh my! PMessNBC actually had more than One Dozen viewers on Sunday???

Anyone know WHICH Graveyard they used as the audience, and if those same people. The Dearly Departed also voted for Obama???

Liberally Speaking. PMessNBC is the Cesspool of Cable Network Fantasy where the TINGLES of one big mouth, are echoed by a BOY NAMED RACHEL.

Abbey Marie
11-20-2012, 04:34 PM
But the political science professor was not done there. She attacked Macy’s for featuring Donald Trump in a recent ad (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-donald-trumps-macys-ad-offensive-cher-thinks-it-is-take-our-blaze-poll/), saying the department store has “nearly a half million people [urging] them to discontinue their relationship with Donald Trump, who’s vicious, racialized attacks on president Obama’s citizenship have continued unabated.”

Here we go: If it's not to the level of racist, let's call it "racialized". Kind of racism-light, I guess. :rolleyes:

gabosaurus
11-20-2012, 04:37 PM
Actually, Thanksgiving 2012 should be a very conservative Republican holiday. Considering how many fried turkeys there are left over from Election Day. :rolleyes:

aboutime
11-20-2012, 05:23 PM
Actually, Thanksgiving 2012 should be a very conservative Republican holiday. Considering how many fried turkeys there are left over from Election Day. :rolleyes:


Gabby. So, will you be FRIED instead of Baked? Turkey's like you are really CHEAP, everywhere you go.

Little-Acorn
11-20-2012, 05:42 PM
“Thanksgiving is not that simple,” she lectured. “The kindergarten story that you learned about grateful Pilgrims and happy Indians is not even close to the historic reality

She's right, though perhaps not quite in the way she expected.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?37863-The-rest-of-the-story-behind-the-first-Thanksgiving

aboutime
11-20-2012, 06:54 PM
She's right, though perhaps not quite in the way she expected.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?37863-The-rest-of-the-story-behind-the-first-Thanksgiving


I personally find it a TRUE Blessing as Thanksgiving approaches. That we can Identify such Low-life, Liberal, anti-American sluts from MessNBC who are not afraid to show how much they HATE the very nation that keeps food on their table, and gives them the opportunity to begin elementary school...PRE-MSNBC day care for wannabe Journalism janitors, and sewerage workers.

Kathianne
11-20-2012, 06:57 PM
She's right, though perhaps not quite in the way she expected.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?37863-The-rest-of-the-story-behind-the-first-Thanksgiving

Or see this post above, from earlier:

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?37852-MSNBC-Host-Wishes-You-A-Liberal-Thanksgiving&p=594089#post594089

logroller
11-20-2012, 07:28 PM
That story made me feel all the more the thankful for what I have. I'll be sure and remind those around the table this year Of the native plight. maybe put on a skit with native ameircans with small pox and huddled into a corner of the yard...or is that racialized? Btw, racialized isn't a word according to autocorrect; so it must not exist. That msnbc needs to get spellcheck. Oh wait, it doesn't recognize msnbc either. Damn phone. Curses apple. Just industrial espionage and patent theft for you this thanksgiving.

fj1200
11-21-2012, 06:23 AM
Or see this post above, from earlier:

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?37852-MSNBC-Host-Wishes-You-A-Liberal-Thanksgiving&p=594089#post594089

Don't you know who the world revolves around? You forget yourself. ;)

red states rule
11-27-2012, 03:49 AM
and what would any holiday be without a liberal playing the race card over what you eat for Thanksgiving diner?
Racism Could Explain White Turkey Meat Preference And then when you present your heritage bird, according to some comments I've read on foodie chat-room boards, you're liable to get comments like, "How come the white meat isn't more white?"

This is what I can't understand: Why does most of America want its turkey meat white? Why do people flock to the obscenely named Butterballs, which boast of overinflated breasts as unnatural as the silicone boobs of truck-stop strip joints or of the Kardashian sisters?

Why have we broken the chains of the whiteness that bound us to fatally tasteless white bread while still remaining imprisoned in the white-meat turkey ghetto?

A friend was trying to convince me that in fact America has lost its taste for this tasteless meat, but the Sunday before Thanksgiving I was listening to the CBS all-news radio station in New York City, and they were doing a fluff piece on the turkey buying that was peaking that weekend. And the reporter was interviewing some guy from Stew Leonard's, a food mega-store that serves New York City's sophisticated suburbs and exurbs in Westchester County and Fairfield County, Conn.

And the guy was boasting that his turkeys were "bred to have 18 to 22 percent more white meat." After which the CBS announcer made a stupid wisecrack about breasts that alone would make you want to forgo the silicone-textured mega-butterballs.

And these are ciabatta-bread people, not Wonder Bread people! Do they still associate white meat with refinement? It was enough to make me wonder whether there could be a racial, if not racist, subtext here. Perhaps there is a clue in the shifting fate of the "other white meat"—pork. I'll never forget the moment when I learned the antebellum racial origin of the phrase "living high on the hog." I had driven down the I-5 "grapevine," that fog-shrouded mountainous interior route from San Francisco to L.A. with a couple of Communist Party women who were mothers of death row prisoners (long story). When dawn broke and we arrived in Watts, they guided me to a place called Ray's Redwood City, an all-night, almost all-black joint where the ladies of Saturday night dined with the ministers of Sunday morning (not at the same tables), and my fellow travelers ordered me a dish called "high on the hog," a mountain of scrambled eggs topped by a fried pork chop.

It was then I learned the etymology of the phrase in America. It hails from the plantation days, when the white slave owners dined on choice pork chops cut from "high on the hog" while the slaves made do with the lower parts of the pig—the ham hocks, the pigs feet, the pork bellies, and the innards. White meat was high on the hog, but not higher on flavor than other (often darker) cuts. Indeed the "other white meat" now available most frequently in lean and tasteless pork chops and cutlets has little more taste than white meat turkey.


Despite its superior taste, dark meat has dark undertones for some. Dark meat evokes the color of earth, soil. Dark meat seems to summon up ancient fears of contamination and miscegenation as opposed to the supposed superior purity of white meat. I guess it shouldn't be a surprise that white meat remains the choice of a holiday that celebrates Puritans.

Indeed, the connotations of the pale and darker parts of the turkey constitute a meaty metaphor for the Thanksgiving feast itself. The allegedly more refined and daintier white parts, the wings and breast, have never touched the ground the way the earthier darker legs have done. And you know how dirty dirt is.

By the way, if you want to read a brilliant poetic embodiment of the real story of our "Pilgrim fathers," a chilling antidote to white bread, white meat, and Thanksgiving treacle, I recommend you take a look at Robert Lowell's amazing, chilling poem "Children of Light" (http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/children-of-light) (which could have been called ("Children of White").http://www.slate.com/articles/life/the_spectator/2010/11/the_unbearable_whiteness_of_white_meat.single.html